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Hey ppl,
just bought these excellent machine (onestopphoneshop, cheap as chips!) but im avin bit of a problem with the bluetooth. it works, one way, i can use my headset and ppl can send me files thu it. however i cant for the hell of me get it to send files, i can thu IR, just not bluetooth. no where, not even file explorer does it say "send via bluetooth" or watever. also my friend has just got a pocketpc with 2003 on, and she says tht she has a "bluetooth manager"which is nowhere to be seen on mine!!
is this a normal problem, or is my xda2 crazy??
thx alot
alvin
This will help and is free!
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
alvin5785 said:
Hey ppl,
just bought these excellent machine (onestopphoneshop, cheap as chips!) but im avin bit of a problem with the bluetooth. it works, one way, i can use my headset and ppl can send me files thu it. however i cant for the hell of me get it to send files, i can thu IR, just not bluetooth. no where, not even file explorer does it say "send via bluetooth" or watever. also my friend has just got a pocketpc with 2003 on, and she says tht she has a "bluetooth manager"which is nowhere to be seen on mine!!
is this a normal problem, or is my xda2 crazy??
thx alot
alvin
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Alvin... Try this.
Firstly, turn bluetooth ON, on your phone, in the normal way.
Then, in File Explorer, tap AND HOLD, on an image file, til the context menu pops up (you are probably already doing this anyway, if you say you can send by IR).
Then select the option to "BEAM FILE" to send the image.
Now this is the informative bit... In the screen that then appears, you will see a magnifying glass icon or two - one for Infra Red beaming, the other one meaning it is still searching for devices.
What you SHOULD also have IF another BT device is in range, is a kind of standard radio transmit indicator, of a circle or dot, with radial rings coming out from it (or at least something similar, as I am going of the top of my head here). THIS is the indicator for a BLUETOOTH device. You will have a few of these in the list, if there is more than one device in range
Its a slow discovery process, but after a while, this indicator, will have an identification code alongside it - this is the hexadecimal notation for the device you wish to send it to.
Leave it searching for a while, and this will then change to the proper name of the other device.
At that point, you can then tap SEND where it indicates, to beam the file by BT.
Note - for it to send, the receiving phone needs to be set up to receive files, be discoverable etc etc.
And as a note, for the XDA2 to be able to receive files, the option to Recieve incoming beams, needs to be ON too - this is often forgotten.
See the screen shots I have knowcked up for more info...
hey thxs for tht ppl, i will try what you said 2moro Shadamehr thx. i went to tht link but unfortuneatly it aint really helped, its more to do with power saving n stuff, not sendin files.
erm i do have another question tho, i have a fellin the answers gonna be no. Can i use my bluetooth headset as normal earpiece/mic for system sounds etc not just phone calls?
thx for ur help
Not with the current bluetooth software.
fair dos, ill just av to wait!
but back to the bluetooth manager, why dont i have one? do all xda2's not have one??
and i still havent managed to send owt yet, but i aint tried to hard yet, ill keep at it!
The Microsoft Bluetooth implentation is very different from the ones you'll find on Ipaq machines, which use the Widcomm Bluetooth stack. It seems like a lot of functionality is missing on the Microsoft one, but in fact a lot is there; it's just not logically organised. Downloading and installing the Bluetooth tools linked above will provide some of the features you probably think you're missing. Try it!
Hope this helps.
hi all
does anybody know why bluetooth turns itself off every now and then?
the bt-symbol in the lower right corner is ON (so no red line going thru it), but no bt device can connect. so when i click on the bt icon i see that bt is turned off.
i have no idea what causes this behaviour. i see no relation between time having not used the device, or charge of battery and this behaviour.
can anyone enlighten me ???
thanks
regards ize|man
I guess since nobody has a direct answer to your question yet, some points of clarification might be in order.
Which device do you have (XDA II, i-mate, etc.)?
Which ROM version is installed?
What additional software have you installed (Pocket BT Tools, PocketZenPhone, etc.)?
Does it do it even after a hard reset (before installing other software)?
As far as I can tell the bluetooth connection will time out after awhile if not bound to a headset or doing anything special.
I discovered this as I use bluetooth activesync to share the net connection with my pc, and if I leave it for 5 to 10 mins it will have turned itself off, but as you experienced, still appear to be on when judging from the bottom right hand symbol.
My Jam has recently decided that I dont' have any bluetooth hardware.
I have seen people complaining about this problem after they updated Radio or ROM - but I haven't done a single thing with my JAM. What they hellis going on. This thing is total piece of garbage....
you need to soft reset it
i have the same problem plus i have no audio on my phone..you can say that again man. abviously i already made a soft reset been doin it for 2 days now! damn! :x help anyone?
This is total garbage. How can a phone just start malfunctioning like that for no reason? This is pathetic.
I have an experience as: I have installed the radio scheduler which I can set to turn BT on and off as pre-scheduled. During the time the BT is off as scheduled, I manually turn it ON then the device say: No BT Hardware. During the time BT is ON as scheduled, I turn it OFF then ON again, no any problem's arised. When I uninstall the Scheduler software, everything's OK. But because I need radio scheduler application to turn GSM/BT ON and OFF automatically as my schedule so I decide not to touch the BT Icon in the bottom tray when BT is off. Without that problem the software run perfectly.
My XDAmini's BT is perfectly paired and worked with my Jabra BT 258. For Async function with my laptop, I use BT Tool 1.0 patch.
So for your cases, I think there is some software have been installed to turn ON/OFF BT function in lower level than the Microsoft's BT stack. Then when MS's BT stack come to check the hardware has been turn OFF, it found NO BT Hardware.
Hope the explanation may help.
I've the same problem with a french ROM. There is a message that told "no bluetooth hardware on this device" but at sometimes il works for a limited time.
I've this problem only under 1.06 ROM not with 1.03.
I need help to resolve this. Soft reset and hard reset change nothing as reflashing with 1.06
Help needing :?
Normally the issue was going to be fixed
Normally the issue was going to be fixed in the 1.06 see reporting on issue
Well.... I had the same message before when I upgraded to MA_DANG_WWE_10600_115_10500_SHIP. Then after a hard reset the problem gone. But his rom is not so stable.
Now I'm using the ma_cdlsku1_10600_110_10500_ship but override with the US radio to 110. And I can say is the most stable I had try on others.
After every soft reset my BT headset will paired by it self with my XDAmini, not like the others which I need to pair on manually. But only one thing is when the BT converage is out of range it had to pair them again. Anyway this is better then nothing.
Note: the radio 110 overiding is not for BT improvement. Just that is for the radio signal upgrade.
Hope this help.
When you want to enable the bluetooth try to make it also discoverable to other devices. This will enable for sure the blue tooth and you will not get again a "No bluetooth hardware" error.
Not true. I have mine discoverable, but this problem seems to occur randomly.
what error messege do you get? i fixed mine by installing that buzztooth or switch application im not sure of the name, but just try to remember the application that you tried/installed before that enable/disables the bluetooth with a shortcut. ow yea and a little tweak on the registry fixed mine..
bogs said:
what error messege do you get? i fixed mine by installing that buzztooth or switch application im not sure of the name, but just try to remember the application that you tried/installed before that enable/disables the bluetooth with a shortcut. ow yea and a little tweak on the registry fixed mine..
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Explain de REGISTRY trick on the prog you install. Give us more information please
what error are you getting? i modified the registry because i had an license expired error..if thats not the error dont bother with the registry. anyway about the bluetooth device not found error i found out the SKtools application is doing it..so the easiest way would be a restore registry on the SKtools app then soft restart.
how long does it take for you guys on a HardReset to get to the startmenu?
Same problems here:
1- No BT HW found
2- BT SW detects Flight Mode on and a message pop up saying to turn off FlightM to activate BT...but FlightMode is turned off yet! than the message is in Spanish and my ROM is Italian....
Really an annoying problem!!!
I hope that HTC has been informed about this!
Today, i've got one more this error. I'll made a screen copy when it happen.
When the problem occurs, there is no possibility to select bluetooth, all is grey
How does i take a old bt manager (before upgrading it works very well)
Tx
Is anyone else finding that their bluetooth is really slow at sending and receiving items. Also that there is no way to send items direct to a contact that is in your partnership list, you have to search for them every time you want to send something. If someone has found ways around these problems, please let me know.
an adaption of the Blue angel's bluetooth interface would be lovely. It had loads of options, and let you explore remote devices. This is just like the XDA2.
Would it be possible to port the BA software onto the wizard? I think it uses a different BT stack.
they were able to port the wizards rom to run on a blue angel. I guess they should be able to use the blue angels bluetooth on a wizard.
Please help - is so annoying
Ok, after a little research i found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33532 .It has an app which i installed and has helped a little. I can now send images direct to people i have paired with without having to search local bluetooth first. The thing is it only sends images to paired people. I want it to also send sound and video files. When in file explorer, holding down on an image brings up the extra option of "Send image via bluetooth" which then allows to send by the already paired devices. When doing the same on videos and sound, it doesnt give this option. Maybe this can be done in the registry, but i dont know alot about that so maybe someone could help?
i tried this on my kjam and i had a problem with it, so i uninstalled it.
the problem i had is that the bt keep switching off by itself with no reason, even if i was already syncing over bt, the connection is lost suddenly and i found out that the bt is off (even though the bt icon on the system tray shows its still on).
i don't know about you guys, but i had this prob twice, i reinstalled it again and gave me the same prob.
i can live without it.
Ok, maybe that stack is not all that great. After soft reset lost all sound, and BT does not work properly. Uninstalled and back to normal. So again is there any way to send to people in your paired list without having to search for them every time. Is becoming a pain coz some new phones turn off discoverable after 60 seconds. So they have to keep turning theirs back on. Its a simple option, dont know why they didnt put this in. Any help?
I haven't seen more than 50-60KBps. Has anyone else seen higher transfer rates?
Wizard's BT is useless. Buggy, slow and poor.
And it is not v2.0, it is v1.2
It does not have EDR.
It doesn't even have PAN ffs... :x
tsiros said:
I haven't seen more than 50-60KBps. Has anyone else seen higher transfer rates?
Wizard's BT is useless. Buggy, slow and poor.
And it is not v2.0, it is v1.2
It does not have EDR.
It doesn't even have PAN ffs... :x
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Info about BT in wizard. Directly from BT CIG's site. The problem is not with the Wizard, it is in usin MS BT stack.
thanks for that emmeborn, if the problem is the stack, do you know of a stack upgrade which works good? I tried the stack form the blue angel, but stuffed up my phone, so uninstalled it.
actually, i just looked at those pdf files, and at the bottom where it has the revisions, seems they have launched a version around 1 month ago. Would this be a software or hardware update. If its software then i reckon this could solve alot of problems im having.
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actually, i just looked at those pdf files, and at the bottom where it has the revisions, seems they have launched a version around 1 month ago. Would this be a software or hardware update. If its software then i reckon this could solve alot of problems im having.
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It is the long awaited rom update. A test version of that rom has already leaked. You can find more info in the Wizard upgrade forum topic about that version.
I am awaiting the localized swedish version of that rom and the latest about that version is that it should be released mid March.
Hi!
In the last some days i read a lot and found the following :
1. download the widcomm stack from axim site : LINK
2. install it + do a soft reset
3. get a registry edittor (Resco, CECMD etc.)
4. change these values :
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\WIDCOMM\BtConfig\SerialTransport]
BaudRate=115200 (Won't start at higher rate.)
Device=COM
FlowControl=0
Parity=0
Port=1 (This is the most important thing!)
-soft reset
-at the today screen you will find a BT icon, click on it and have fun
TESTED FEATURES
-BT FTP, tested with : SE K750i, hx4700.
-ActiveSync : NOT WORKING
KNOWN ISSUES
-unable to control from comm manager
-blue led not flashing, easy to forget
-a2dp not tested
-tested on aku3.2 and aku2.3 roms, others maybe ok.
-other devices can't download bt services list, but the services works well.
-maybe unable to remove, not tested yet
-turns off, when you trun off your device, that maybe a problem with BT headset.
DO IT ON YOUR OWN RISK
Great news! Posted an announcement to the SP & Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog too!
Problems!!!
I've just installed the bluetoth stack in my phone. I've not yet tested it but i've found two showstop problems:
- activesync doesn't work anymore
- i cannot start the comm manager anymore (when i press the comm manager button in the upper left corner i can see only a small dialog with wifi and bluetooth power levels)
This is what i've done (maybe i did something wrong):
- copied the cab to storage and ran it (installed in device)
- soft-reset (required by the installer)
- edited the registry according to the first post
- soft-reset
I'm using an aku3.2 rom
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Comm manager is working again. I had to reassociate it in Start-Settings-Buttons
Still no activesync (over USB at least)
bye
bye
Has anyone else tried this then? Has anyone tried the hermes cab install found in here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1072292#post1072292
There has been reports that it works on the trinity as well, so it may work on the Wizard.
Edit: No it doesn't. I have just ried it and it gives the memory error.
took the plunge and tried it
Bluetooth works and I can connect my itech S35 to it. The A2DP profile is detected and can connect... problem is, the signal is too weak to maintain a connection, in other words, I just heard 2 seconds of music and that's it... Another problem is my speakers now don't work... must do more reading...
It's hopeful though...
I am using a Dopdo838...
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Bluetooth works and I can connect my itech S35 to it. The A2DP profile is detected and can connect... problem is, the signal is too weak to maintain a connection, in other words, I just heard 2 seconds of music and that's it... Another problem is my speakers now don't work... must do more reading...
It's hopeful though...
I am using a Dopdo838...
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Did you try tweaking the BT params (for example, lowering the bit speed) to see whether it would work at lower bit speeds? See my related articles.
got look out for the links to your tips and tricks again
Hi Menneisyys,
Surrendered on Widcomm stack almost 2 months ago, now have to look again for the links for your tips and tricks for the Widcomm stack again...
Any idea on how to restore audio to my speakers... still dead at the moment... sigh... don't want to restore my back up yet...
i found that you don't really need to remove the shift* keys. if you already removed it, download the BTSpeedSwitcher from the download link, and set the speed to 921600bps. that may help.
Got it working fine
Thanks, but now I am a bit unclear, but will clear things up later. I used the speedswitcher as you suggested and but I had to disable audiogateway before it could work... now I am stuck as I put my wizard into standby and now it won't come back.... on... doh!
Well, one thing I can confirm, you can put it into standby and the bluetooth is still on.......
will feed back more when I get a clearer picture of what happened.... The sound quality is great..... just skipped for a second but is not back to normal again...
My wizard has now a nice quality A2DP sound without the high pitch noise...
went to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1073003&posted=1#post1073003
and used the files from Superdave... all is well now... look at my reply at the hermes thread.. Now I will just back up this "working configuration" and retry these settings on the cab from Aximsite... All the same, thanks to the legendary Mikelspikel
Just wanted A2DP to work so bad.... and it does now. nicely..
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Got it working
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Okay, when you get time can you stick up how you got it all working? Many Thanks!
Ive installed the Superdave BBS_HERMES_03.CAB file and then modified the registry to use the above settings but every time i do the soft reset, the registry settings go back to the original values. Im stuck here.
Oh and i am using the last T-Mobile UK rom. (2.0 i think)
Edit 2: Now got it working. I had to kill voicecmd and cprog for it to load without giving the memory issue!
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you can put it into standby and the bluetooth is still on.......
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as it should - BT is on on PPC PE devices in standby mode, unlike on plain PPC's.
peetking said:
-unable to control from comm manager
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It looks like comm manager is just an HTML document in the /windows directory. (Should be simple to redirect the button)
Leaskovski
sorry for the late reply but had a few setbacks during the night(I am in Malaysia)..
Got A2DP running all night and by mid morning... suddenly all went to hell..
1) No skipping with your suggestion of using MikelSpikel's speed switcher.
2) While trying to put it to standby to test if BT still works and it hung at first attempt. Something must have happened here as I recovered using the reset button and then suddenly I could get it to revert back to built in speakers and headset without issue. I thought, cool, it is like complete solution...
And then, I decided to backup this "complete solution" with SPB backup.. and after the softreset, I lost the ability to switch between headset and speakers. Then during the night while I sleep and use the headset, at around 3 am... the skipping came back...
and then... I restored the backup and now... got to tackle the skipping again.. never mind the muted speakers..
What linespeed(I use 320 dec), Blocks(16) and subband(8) do you use? I followed MikelSpikel's settings which work ok... last night...
back to the drawing board..
Right, i installed the superdave 03 version and then opened up the registry to make sure the settings matched the ones above. I had to kill cprog and voicecmd to start it without the memory error.
I have tested it now and although it is loading up ok, my headset connection is just not working properly. Its paired ok but nothing is getting routed through. However, my gps bluetooth device paired okay and is working fine with iGO 2006 after doing a detection. Damn shame about this headset! I am using a parrott ck3000.
redo..
Re-installed everything again and now I got a working version, some things to note though on my wizard..
1) I must overclock to 260mhz(battery status method) before I get skip free music.
2) Leaskovski, I had the same problem too in the beginning, where there is no audio getting through. Did you go to Bluetooth Manager and check the status of your headset? i went to mine(ItechS35) and I can see that the Wizard is sending data through successfully but there is no sound coming out of the headset. I solved this(that time, I don't know why it worked but it did) by going to Bluetooth services and removing the Check box for audio gateway enabled, and then music started coming through. I know, does not sound logical but it worked... that time..
Now hoping to find a way to redirect audio back to speakers when bluetooth is not used..
not tonight though.. its 10.46 pm now where I am...
This doesn't look promising for how i though the BT audio might work with this stack. I was hoping for something like the following...
"A good example of this is MS Voise command running on the MS BT stack. The two devices are paired and connected, however there is currently no streaming. You then receive the text message and MS Voice command reads the message back to you. Just before the message is read, the connection between the devices is made live, and thus the message gets read over the BT headset."
I was hoping that this was going to work for all applications like media player and iGO. I can reproduce what it is doing at the moment using the BTAudio programme that is available on these boards. I just wanted to get around this 'constant' streaming of silent noise.
Damn shame.
Okay for anyone wanting to play with this, here is how i installed and got it running...
1) Download from this thread post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1072773&postcount=72 the file BBS_HERMES_03.zip.
2) Install onto your wizard and soft reset when asked. Upon the reset, the device will moan at you about not having enought memory to load the drivers. Click ok to close this.
3) Load up your registry editor (i use FDCSoft Task Manager) and make the following mods as stated in the first post...
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\WIDCOMM\BtConfig\SerialTransport]
BaudRate=115200 (Won't start at higher rate.)
Port=1 (This is the most important thing!)
If you only want audio routed to headset when there is audio to route then make this reg edit...
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\WIDCOMM\Plugins\handsfree]
Audiohandling=21
4) Do not do a soft reset yet.
5) Now fire up your Task Manager (i use FDCSoft Task Manager) and kill any memory hungry tasks. The ones i kill which then allow me to start the stack is voicecmd.exe and cprog.exe.
6) Now click on the BT icon in the system tray and turn BT on.
Obviously there must be some memory leaks some where in the wizard because a couple of people have said that later in the day, if you try to turn BT on again it wont start due to memory requirements. Anyway, the best thing i can think of is to leave BT on after you have turned it on.
Currently, the blue led will not flash when BT is one. Try not to use the Normal Comms Manager to turn BT one as well as i think this trys to turn the MS stack on which won't work (probably due to memory requirements! )
new2city said:
I solved this(that time, I don't know why it worked but it did) by going to Bluetooth services and removing the Check box for audio gateway enabled, and then music started coming through. I know, does not sound logical but it worked... that time..
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I didnt get this to work in the end by the way.
I tried your idea to leave BT all the while but some problems pop up..
1) If turn off the headset without disconnecting it(BT still left on and the phone goes on standby, sometimes it won't come back.. a poke at the reset button is the only way..
2) I left BT on and disconnected the headset properly. Great BT is still on... BUT after a few hours, I can still connect the headset, but audio is not going there anymore... ??? but goes into internal speakers?
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I tried your idea to leave BT all the while but some problems pop up..
1) If turn off the headset without disconnecting it(BT still left on and the phone goes on standby, sometimes it won't come back.. a poke at the reset button is the only way..
2) I left BT on and disconnected the headset properly. Great BT is still on... BUT after a few hours, I can still connect the headset, but audio is not going there anymore... ??? but goes into internal speakers?
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Hmm, i dont have those issues. I am using it with my carkit, so when i turn the engine off and remove the keys, the kit turns off. I haven't had to reset the device apart from when i have turned BT off and then tried to turn it back on again at a later stage (then giving me the memory issue).