Everyone has their opinions on what Hero rom is the best and fastest. I've tried them all. The question I have does anyone think we will never have a hero rom that will be as fast as actual Hero/Eris? All the ones Ive tried the home screen runs okay as long as you constantly kill the background programs. But pulling up apps and moving through the system is slow on any Hero rom (that Ive tried). I have all the correct linx-swap 128, ext2 500 and class 6. Question still stands will there ever be a rom that moves as fast as the actual phone?
I doubt it. It just basically comes down to the hardware and how we lack 96mb of ram over the actual hero or 32A devices. It makes it really hard to even get a rom that will compare to the original.
What setup have people got when running cyanogen's build?
I am just trying to get this ROM as fast as possible.
I have less than ten apps but do not have a linux swap.
Ext2/3/4?
I have done the 10mb RAM hack too.
Compcache???
I'd love it to be as fast as some of the other ROMS like super-d and wyse 2.6.
I decided to stick with cyanogen as I find it the most stable.
I find with all other ROMS that when I partition my SD card it does not recognize the partition. Does anyone else notice this?
i'm running a G1-HTC and have a total of 22 apps installed!!??? i don't have my 4Gb SIM partitioned but just installed the 10 Mb Hack yesterday i think it was.
The phone seems to be really stable so i haven't tried any other hacks. i did jpartition the SIM once, but when i tried to mount it under my Linux setup, it wasn't recognized, whereas the SIM card by itself is???!!!
i think Cyanogen's reccomendation is NOT to enable Compache.
If you need any other info i can give out... let me know.
Have a great afternoon!
frazelle09 said:
i don't have my 4Gb SIM partitioned
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Do you have a SIM card of 4GB? lol Amazing (Or do you mean a SD card? )
jazz8146 said:
I'd love it to be as fast as some of the other ROMS like super-d and wyse 2.6.
I decided to stick with cyanogen as I find it the most stable.
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Hmmm. I've had the opposite experience - SuperD is not only faster, but I've found it to be WAY more stable than Cyanogen's last few releases. CM used to be the most stable, but the stability and speed both really started to suffer as he started adding all the extra features and all the 2.0 pieces.
I have a 96MB swap partition, but don't use it right now with SuperD, because the default compcache works fine for me. Everyone seems to have a different opinion about what's the fastest setup, but I have never really seen any objective measurements.
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Do you have a SIM card of 4GB? lol Amazing (Or do you mean a SD card? )
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I wonder how many gigs my 6-year-old SIM card holds...
I agree with the people that say Superd is not only faster, but way more stable than Cyanogen's latest roms. Cyanogen's last stable rom to me was 4.2.5. After that it started to slow down and become unstable. I would recommend Superd 1.8 on ext3 and I have a 96 MB swap, but only using the default Compcache. And I have 90 Apps packed on my G1 and it runs fast and smooth.
I agree with your statement about Cyanogen's recent ROMs, but 4.2.14.1 has really turned it around. It is his smoothest, fastest, and stablest in a long time. I run with 10MB RAM hack, no CC, and no ext partition on my MT3G.
I've used SuperD 1.8, which is based off Cyanogen 4.2.14, and the speed difference is negligible. For previous releases, SuperD was definitely faster.
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I agree with the people that say Superd is not only faster, but way more stable than Cyanogen's latest roms. Cyanogen's last stable rom to me was 4.2.5. After that it started to slow down and become unstable. I would recommend Superd 1.8 on ext3 and I have a 96 MB swap, but only using the default Compcache. And I have 90 Apps packed on my G1 and it runs fast and smooth.
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For me enom's is my favorite and its all stock with no themes at all.
I realized that I get bored of themes so stock is the best of them all.
I have an HD2 with SPL 2.08 and radio 2.15 , WinMo rom - Dexter .sencity 21.11 .
I have tried with other combinations too. My SD card is the original class 2 2gb micro SD. When I install Desire rom it works fast and everything is fine. When I put a Desire HD rom however it is slow - i takes 1-2 secs for it to open keyboard or the menus and so on. I dont know what the problem is or how can I see exactly how slow it is. Any help would be much appreciated! It is odd that people report that the Desire HD roms are really fast when they are slow on my HD2. Probably I messed up something but I dont know what so please HELP! I have tried different roms from m-deejay and Sergio76 and so on. The Froyo stock roms also work fast and flawless. I know there is another thread but it is in another section and there are no responses because this sections has 100x more activity. THank you!
Man honestly to rule out any possibilities of the ROM being the factor you have to use a class 6 or above sd card, otherwise you have no way of really troubleshooting what your problem is. Also, Devs mention in the releases all the time the Radio and WinMo ROM they use so to insure the same performance they can only give you what they are running as well.
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Man honestly to rule out any possibilities of the ROM being the factor you have to use a class 6 or above sd card, otherwise you have no way of really troubleshooting what your problem is. Also, Devs mention in the releases all the time the Radio and WinMo ROM they use so to insure the same performance they can only give you what they are running as well.
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The class of the SD card has nothing to do with it. The majority or people that have tried a class 4 and above say it is a lot worse than the stock SD card. I have tried and it was a lot worse for me also.
The Windows ROM and radio can have a LOT to do with it though.
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I have an HD2 with SPL 2.08 and radio 2.15 , WinMo rom - Dexter .sencity 21.11 .
I have tried with other combinations too. My SD card is the original class 2 2gb micro SD. When I install Desire rom it works fast and everything is fine. When I put a Desire HD rom however it is slow - i takes 1-2 secs for it to open keyboard or the menus and so on. I dont know what the problem is or how can I see exactly how slow it is. Any help would be much appreciated! It is odd that people report that the Desire HD roms are really fast when they are slow on my HD2. Probably I messed up something but I dont know what so please HELP! I have tried different roms from m-deejay and Sergio76 and so on. The Froyo stock roms also work fast and flawless. I know there is another thread but it is in another section and there are no responses because this sections has 100x more activity. THank you!
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By the way, how long exactly did you give it? These HD Roms can literally take hours to settle in and they won't be real speedy until they are completely done syncing everything. I have noticed that sometimes you won't see the sync icon but things will still be syncing in the background, inlcuding the Android market because these new Roms backup all your apps and data with the market and HTC sense. I am using Sergio76's and it is flying so I would try again but give it a lot of time to settle. Hope it works out for you, good luck!
As Motoman said, it will take time for everything to sync, but many reboots is very important. I have been using Mdeejay's Desire HD 4.1 for three days now, and don't have any problems. I must have rebooted 8-10 times the original day and that helped extremely well with speed.
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The class of the SD card has nothing to do with it. The majority or people that have tried a class 4 and above say it is a lot worse than the stock SD card. I have tried and it was a lot worse for me also.
The Windows ROM and radio can have a LOT to do with it though.
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At worst a class 6 card (for example) might not provide much in the way of an improvement over a stock class 2 but there is no way it would be 'a lot worse'.
Personally, I noticed a speed increase on identical builds when I swapped from my class 2 to a class 6 but nothing too drastic.
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By the way, how long exactly did you give it? These HD Roms can literally take hours to settle in and they won't be real speedy until they are completely done syncing everything. I have noticed that sometimes you won't see the sync icon but things will still be syncing in the background, inlcuding the Android market because these new Roms backup all your apps and data with the market and HTC sense. I am using Sergio76's and it is flying so I would try again but give it a lot of time to settle. Hope it works out for you, good luck!
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I agree with motoman that sdcards have nothing to do with the speed they might make a very little difference which can be negligible, I am suffering from a lot of lag in desire HD builds............
@motoman234, so can you tell us how exactly we should install these desire hd roms ?,
i was having the same issue with the hd roms. i thought they were terrible. i now have MDJ FroYo HD v.4.3=-[kernel:MDJ S7.5HD] running very well. i had to change my rom to achieve this. the wmrom is useless IMO but it lets me run android hd now. i am using this rom
ChuckyDroidROM-HTCFrameworkEdition.Nov.05.7z
and this radio
Radio_Leo_2.15.50.14
i also install bsb tweaks in winmo and set to power save mode. turn off everything in winmo and auto boot to android with hard keys lit up.
it works for me
Same issue as OP here. All non-HD ROMs run really fast. But other Desire HD ROMs are plain terrible speed-wise. I have a good Class 6 card.
It's a kernel issue. There is nothing you can do.
Pagnell said:
At worst a class 6 card (for example) might not provide much in the way of an improvement over a stock class 2 but there is no way it would be 'a lot worse'.
Personally, I noticed a speed increase on identical builds when I swapped from my class 2 to a class 6 but nothing too drastic.
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To each is own I suppose. I can only speak for myself when I say that a class 6 card made me have SOD every time when waking the phone from sleep, not to mention overall less performance. Not sure what it is about them but it was bad in my case but I doubt every single person will experience this.
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I agree with motoman that sdcards have nothing to do with the speed they might make a very little difference which can be negligible, I am suffering from a lot of lag in desire HD builds............
@motoman234, so can you tell us how exactly we should install these desire hd roms ?,
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It is a bit time consuming to get them rolling smooth for the first time but these are the steps I usually use when installing them for those of you that can not get them running like they should.
1) Boot up the build (fresh start)
2) Wait a couple minutes before unlocking the screen for the first time.
3) Setup everything in the SetupWizard.
4) From the moment you hit the "Finish" button on the SetupWizard, set your phone down for about 30-45 minutes before touching anything (OFF the charger if possible since it can get really hot when it is syncing everything for the first time. Charging can just add to that heat)
5) After you notice things to get a little faster, reboot the phone and then boot back into Android.
6) Wait another 5 minutes before unlocking the phone.
7) You should be good to go, if things still seem a little laggy try to reboot one more time.
I know this seems overboard but these HD builds have a lot to them. After you get the process over with you should be happy you did it. Once again **This is just what works for me** I am using Core Droid V0.2 by the way.
@Motoman234,
Not overboard...it's good advice. Thank you for the steps! P.S. Good to see a chef from my neck of the woods! Thank you sir!!
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The class of the SD card has nothing to do with it. The majority or people that have tried a class 4 and above say it is a lot worse than the stock SD card. I have tried and it was a lot worse for me also.
The Windows ROM and radio can have a LOT to do with it though.
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Pagnell said:
At worst a class 6 card (for example) might not provide much in the way of an improvement over a stock class 2 but there is no way it would be 'a lot worse'.
Personally, I noticed a speed increase on identical builds when I swapped from my class 2 to a class 6 but nothing too drastic.
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The Speed of the SD card has nothing to do with the roms performance.
The only difference that we will feel between a 'Class 2' and a 'Class 6' is when copying files to or from the SD card.
I noticed that on my 16GB Class 2, I have a transfer rate up to 4 MB/s when copying the Android folder and this card is supposed to have a maximum of 2mb writing while on my 8GB Class 6 I can copy up to 10 Mb/s the same Android folder (twice as fast).
But when Android runs I don't feel any difference at all.
The reason why the Desire HD roms are slow on the HD2 is because these roms were optimized to work under 768 MB RAM while our HD2 has only 576 MB RAM.
We barely have 100MB of free RAM with a Desire HD rom but with a stock rom we can have 300MB and more free.
ForceField said:
The Speed of the SD card has nothing to do with the roms performance.
The only difference that we will feel between a 'Class 2' and a 'Class 6' is when copying files to or from the SD card.
I noticed that on my 16GB Class 2, I have a transfer rate up to 4 MB/s when copying the Android folder and this card is supposed to have a maximum of 2mb writing while on my 8GB Class 6 I can copy up to 10 Mb/s the same Android folder (twice as fast).
But when Android runs I don't feel any difference at all.
The reason why the Desire HD roms are slow on the HD2 is because these roms were optimized to work under 768 MB RAM while our HD2 has only 576 MB RAM.
We barely have 100MB of free RAM with a Desire HD rom but with a stock rom we can have 300MB and more free.
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I think what makes it worse is that we dont get 576mb ram in android, as this has not been built into kernels, we are only getting about 350mb of ram. If I check my available ram it is around the 300mb mark and has never been above 350mb.
u must just reboot you device after 1-st boot
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I think what makes it worse is that we dont get 576mb ram in android, as this has not been built into kernels, we are only getting about 350mb of ram. If I check my available ram it is around the 300mb mark and has never been above 350mb.
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Yes,the secret of having a good performance on any device is to have 1/3 of the amount of RAM always free.
For ex if you have 3GB of ram,you can use till 2GB and you will be very good.
But if you use 2.1 GB of the 3GB then don't think twice and upgrade immediately.
We are using this equation on our servers and t works pretty well,at least for our company.
I've only tested desire_hd beta and Core Droid HD v0.2 so far. Nonetheless, both have been quick and solid here. Like mentioned by motoman234, give these builds time to sync your market apps and settle down, then reboot a couple times, and you should be good to go. If the build has heavy lag, it's most likely still trying to download your market apps and install them as well as sync your personal data. Patience is key here.
Also, this goes for every build, but make sure that your keypad lights are on when booting into android. Doing this has normally solved any high standby battery drain that I've run into to date.
As far as MircoSDHC cards go, I have tested a handful of different class and size cards with the HD2, and found that once the system is booted up, there's no difference, or the higher class cards have more SOD or freeze issues for some reason. The HD2 can only handle so much, and random read speed appears to be the most important factor. In turn, a good quality class 2 card should be all you need. That said, I've been running a Sandisk 32GB class 2 card for months now, without a single problem to date. Regardless of what card you use, I highly recommend using SD Formatter in quick format mode.
Another thought... it may help a little to use a standard wallpaper at first, instead of the live wallpaper, just until the system has settled down.
All that said, I'm a huge fan of Core Droid HD, due to the animations and polished theme work done by Sergio76. It's an excellent build, and you can easily get the camcorder working with the system files fix included in the thread.
On a kind of related note, motoman234 has an excellent EVO Sense Black & Blue Remix build available, if the Desire HD Sense builds are too heavy for your needs.
Best to all,
R
Well said, thanks man.
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Well said, thanks man.
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Cheers motoman234! And... thank you so much for your excellent build work and help. To say the least, your EVO remix has been extra solid here.
Best to all,
R
how's games performance on hd2 android as compared to desire? is it the same or more lag? just saw a vid of rafdroid hd 3 on hd2 and seems to have some lag while playing asphalt 5 hd
watched more vids here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68BYOr6dSAs
yup seems it's lagging... is it normal?? or it depends on the android rom u r using.. are there lags on sd android roms?
yeah there is more lag if ur running a sd android rom compared to a nand android rom
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yeah there is more lag if ur running a sd android rom compared to a nand android rom
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I would say performance is the same with recent SD builds as with NAND builds. I've used both NAND and SD builds extensively... it depends a lot on the build. I guess it may depend on what SD card you're using too, but actually most high quality SD cards have faster read and write speeds than the NAND that the HD2 has... random access speed on good SD cards are as good as the HD2's NAND.
Desire HD builds may run a little better on NAND, but not by much if at all. AOSP and CM builds definitely run the same on both, though.
To the OP.... game performance will depend on what build you're using, but from my experience it seems to run games almost as good as a Desire. Desire may run a little better... depends on if it's running stock or if it's tweaked for performance. My friend has a desire that's tweaked and runs much better than any HD2 I've ever seen. But the HD2 can usually match a stock desire in performance.
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I would say performance is the same with recent SD builds as with NAND builds. I've used both NAND and SD builds extensively... it depends a lot on the build. I guess it may depend on what SD card you're using too, but actually most high quality SD cards have faster read and write speeds than the NAND that the HD2 has... random access speed on good SD cards are as good as the HD2's NAND.
Desire HD builds may run a little better on NAND, but not by much if at all. AOSP and CM builds definitely run the same on both, though.
To the OP.... game performance will depend on what build you're using, but from my experience it seems to run games almost as good as a Desire. Desire may run a little better... depends on if it's running stock or if it's tweaked for performance. My friend has a desire that's tweaked and runs much better than any HD2 I've ever seen. But the HD2 can usually match a stock desire in performance.
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thx for the replies. Are there overclocked roms on hd2 to boost performance?
There are overclocked roms that boost your cpu speed up to 1.5ghz. No need tho. I have mine running at 900mhz and save a little battery. All my games run smooth. I got a stock desire hd rom on nand. My co-worker has the normal desire and his phone lags and hangs constantly. His is 100% stock from o2 germany.
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Oh and if you want an easy way to keep an eye on your specs and how your phone is running, there's a free app called Elixir. It's simple monitoring software, but it shows you EVERYTHING.
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thx for ur replies.. lol it's becoming harder to decide between desire and hd2 lol
If you want to run android then skip the desire and get a desire hd. If you want to dual boot android and windows then go with the hd2. If you just want android without dual boot then it's better to buy a native android system.
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Not sure if this helps but I have just bought one of these microsd cards
http://www.allmemorycards.co.uk/acatalog/SDSDQY-8192-E11M.html
And I can confirm that both Windows Phone 7 and my SD Android ROM run flawlessly, before I was using a class 6 Samsung which I thought would be perfect for the job, but I was getting slow down and restarts in WP7 and the odd game skip in Android.
Now I Don't get a single skip whilst playing GT racing HD or PES2011 on Android and WP7 runs so smooth and fast, In my opinion there is no other choice on the market to be able to run Android and WP7 so well if at all...HD2 what else is there
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Not sure if this helps but I have just bought one of these microsd cards
http://www.allmemorycards.co.uk/acatalog/SDSDQY-8192-E11M.html
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i got that one, i payed 30€ for it . First i thought 8 GB is enough but my SD Card is almost full. I have a question, which builds are the best for gaming? What about the RAM Builds, are they better for gaming?