Okay, I have been ignored on the Rom's thread (thrice). I am using the latest Energy Rom, and have a lag in between keystrokes (can only type 2 a second, w/ Dutty, was much much faster). It happens w/ IE and Opera (9.5, beta 2, doesn't matter. all other applications (word, text messaging, email) all work fine.
Any clues?
I'm experiencing this problem with ALL 6.5 roms, they're just all very slow! I always keep coming back to 6.1, even stock 6.1 roms are a lot faster than every 6.5 rom i ever tested.
So....I'm the only one having this issue????
It seems to be like that on all roms. Download the Finger Keyboard from here, it's a lot faster than the regular keyboards.
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If anyone is interested a WinMo 6.1 ROM has been released, you can find it on PPCGeeks here http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=17219
I've only had it on there for all of 5 minutes but it seems really fast and has some nice features built in. The clock on the start bar has a next appt thing and the sms threading is pretty nice. I didn't like the SMS Threader program but this works well.
Is this 6.1 with GPS activated or without?
*edit - I see it says it's based on 3.16 w/GPS. I guess I should've read the link first.*
Although some of this is a repeat from the other forum, I will still post my reactions:
OS seems quick
Phone Speaker seems louder
Very Clean - Not many Junk Programs
MS Office One Note (I actually use it! :-D)
Internet Sharing Worked No Problems (Used to say invalid User/Pass)
Includes:
-Query Analyzer (SQL stuff?)
-Task Manager (Prettier)
So far, and it has only been 8 hours, I recommend it!
Since this is based on 3.16 I'm guessing that the same download/disconnect problems are around? I had to downgrade back to 2.17 because 3.16 just didn't work
No problems for me so far.
Manila 2.1 running on WM 6.1 is currently, indisputably (much) faster than 2.5 on WM 6.5. For intensive use, the difference is enormous to me and certainly enough to stick to the 2.1/6.1 combo until the great cooks start working their magic and optimizing everything.
That aside, after having used Dutty's Leo R5 for a few days, with numerous problems, I really miss the beautifully implemented, simple Twitter tab. I'm now running Dutty's WM6.1 v4.3 Final, which is blazingly fast in comparison but, naturally, doesn't have the fancy new Twitter functionality. Is there any way at all to get this into Manila 2.1? If there's anything I can do to help, I'm game. I've just tasted the feature and can't let go of it!
I've been a member here for a few years now and i use my beloved Trinity a lot, especially for surfing the net (opera mini (java) opera mobile 8.5 and internet explorer are mostly what i use) i've noticed a lot of people seem to have very few issues with running WM6.5 but i find it almost impossible to use WM6.5 for surfing the net without it constantly freezing or resetting on me, so i was wondering, which combination of WM, SPL and Radio Roms is everyone else using and how is ur speed / stability in conjunction with these? I'd especially like to hear from those who use WM6.5.
It's more of a curiosity based question than anything else.
....win 6.5,trinity p 3600,radio 1.46,supersport rom translated from rubenalf with titanium,opera mini 5 beta ( veryvery good ),skyfire (good,little bit heavy if not in wifi ) internet explorer 7 or 8 Idon't remember ( slow and heavy ) -
- no crash almost at all - I had more problems with manila 2d in win 6.1 -
thanks donaglia, i think i'll give that combo a try.
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thanks donaglia, i think i'll give that combo a try.
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godofwap; does your dream combo work fine? please share ur experience.
unfortunately i still found this combo to be a little tetchy at times, for example, whenever i switch to desktop mode on pie 8 it always froze before the entire page loaded, and for some reason whenever i ran opera mini 4.2 (java) it always seemed to close the java app, opera mobile 8.5 worked well for a time but had the same problem as pie 8 when it came to loading desktop view, sky fire was a complete no go, wouldnt even load, so far the best 6.5 combo i've used is:
nAr & Icke WM6.5 [build 21874.5.0.83] WWE Titanium Version (here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=606027 )
Olipro hard spl 1.20
Radio Rom 1.46.30.11
I was always fully able to load desktop views on opera mobile 8.5 and pie, although it did take between 1-2 minutes to fully load at times, opera mini 4.2 still keeps crashing but i could live without using that for the time being, sky fire still would not work, the combo overall was very smooth and relatively quick considering the fact it wasnt origionally designed for our beloved trinitys, i'm now going to try WWE WM6.5 24001 UL by The.Decoy (here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5547181#post5547181 ) to see how it works out, i'll keep you posted.
btw, i'd like to say that i think all the chefs here do a fantastic job, this post is just to determine the best combination for myself and anyone else who wishes to follow suit. I wouldnt want anyone to think that i'm dissing their work, so keep it up
Is it possible to make the scrolling more smooth? (Maybe like the iphone?)
an app or ROM that can do it maybe?
can you give us more information? which handset are you using? with which ROM?
I dont have a wm phone yet
I just watched the Iphone vs WM 6.5 from pocketnow and he said that scrolling on the iphone is just SO Smooth, and on the wm 6.5 its a little "Natchy".
So i just wandered if we could Customize the scrolling ability in wm6.5 to make it more Smooth?
lobfredd said:
I dont have a wm phone yet
I just watched the Iphone vs WM 6.5 from pocketnow and he said that scrolling on the iphone is just SO Smooth, and on the wm 6.5 its a little "Natchy".
So i just wandered if we could Customize the scrolling ability in wm6.5 to make it more Smooth?
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There are a few programs that allow for kinetic scrolling which is found on the iPhone. Many custom and official roms have this built in of course. The video you may have been watching probably showed a rom without a scrolling driver/program. FTouchSL is a program that allows this.
Scrolling smoothness depends on processing speed of the device itself. I have a HTC Touch and scrolling in menu and lists is jerky at default CPU speed(200Mhz). When i overclock it, the scrolling appears much more fluid (btw, my ELFin goes up to 300Mhz!! Even 308 works but i use it at 300 )
Actually the differences between the iPhone and WM6.5 aren't that different.
Scrolling on the WM6.5 has kinetic scrolling built in. The difference is that Windows Mobile will change the scrolling depending on what app you are using. Most scrolling is EXACTLY like the iPhone.
The "notching" effect is only found in the later builds of the Start Menu where when you FLICK... it only scrolls one page at a time... verses scrolling all the way to the bottom... similar to the iPhones homescreen where you flick to go to the next page of app icons.
With WM6.5 you don't need any type of additional scrolling as it is already smooth and fluid. Stock WM6.5 drivers are even better then that of FTouchSL and HTC Gestures.
Few days ago a guy at work asked me whether you can even use the touch screen on Windows Mobile because he thought that's only possible with iphone. That's so RIDICULOUS (my favourite word as of recently). But I guess we can blame it on MS for launching 6.5 way too late....
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Few days ago a guy at work asked me whether you can even use the touch screen on Windows Mobile because he thought that's only possible with iphone. That's so RIDICULOUS (my favourite word as of recently). But I guess we can blame it on MS for launching 6.5 way too late....
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I'd blame it on apple for their brainwashing of the most of the population, including looking at that latest lawsuit themselves, into believing that they are teh only ones to do anything at all ever..
Regardless of any kinetic scrolling present in Windows Mobile 6.5 or later, there really is nothing out there that will let the default WinMo apps scroll as consistently smooth as an iPhone, not even on my HD2.
There are some third party apps with excellent smooth scrolling built in (Like Resco Explorer 2010), but if you want the start menu, WinMo contacts, messaging, File Explorer etc. to have perfect smooth scrolling - it's not going to happen.
It's not terrible by any means, but you'll get the occasionally hiccup or lost frame or pause. And it doesn't seem like its running at full frame rate either - but most of the time it runs pretty well. Certainly not anything to lose sleep over
Well you can always get some Cooked ROM like Dutty`s ... I could say that it is better than my original ROM was. And I mean in all terms.
Coincidently, i have a related doubt. Is it possible to make scrolling in WM 6.5.X more fluid and bouncy like in WM 6.5 by replacing some registry setting or file?
I would like to know this too,I dont think its possible.
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Coincidently, i have a related doubt. Is it possible to make scrolling in WM 6.5.X more fluid and bouncy like in WM 6.5 by replacing some registry setting or file?
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Just install this cab
Steve0007 said:
Just install this cab
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Im using the ROM from my Signature so its a 6.5 Build and like some peoples here say the drivers are already includet in the 6.5 Builds but i search in the rom and i found that file PhysicsEngine.ddl in my windows directory the file was only 20kb
So i download the cab scrolling bouncing 6.5.x.cab and i saw in the cab that here just have the same PhysicsEngine.ddl but its a bit diferent and is 23 KB not 20 like in my ROM.
I install the CAB and i don`t know do is placibo effect but now the scrolling is even better, so my question is from withch ROM you extract this ddl file and maybe have diference in the this files so when this is a bigger size its mean that is a bit diferent.. because if was the same size 20kb this mean is the same.
Also if this is right we can extract this ddl from the very very latest 6.5 Buld witch is posible to be more up to date and the ddl file to be even better.
It seems to me my scroll is also become better. Before it was often, that then I started to scroll, the phone recognized it as a touch and lunched what was under the finger. Now then I scroll – it scroll, then I touch – it touch.
wow
this makes scrolling much better.
Good POST
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Just install this cab
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This does noticeably affect how this scrolls. Thanks so much for the cab. I am running an NRG ROM, and it has most definitely improved my scrolling abilities. GOOD WORK!!!
It's certainly better. Anyways, I once used a ROM which had a really, really smooth Windows menu. Just as smooth as iphone. But I forgot which ROM it was. I have no clue why it was so smooth : (
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Can I use this on my T-Mobile HD2 (USA) Stock ROM?
Thanks!
Test and let us know
Hi can you tell me which is the fastest ROM for our HDs .Doesn't matter 6.1 or 6.5. I just want fast ROM with weather on the homescreen. Of course I prefer 6.5 with sense but I don't know does it fast as 6.1. If there is WinMo 6.1 with interface Sense 2.5 and it's fast like touch flo for example will be great.
Thank you!
this question has been asked and answered dozens of times.
the fastest rom is the stock rom wm6.1 with touchflo 3d 1.3
this touchflo version only has a weather tab, no weather on home screen. also not all sense 2.1 versions have home screen weather.
if there were such a thing as a perfect blackstone rom, no other chef could be bothered building own versions, the blackstone classically is a device on the line. it has a high display resolution, yet not the powerful processor, most new devices with that resolution have.
so, you have to pick, either speed OR a lot of features.
you can try cloudy 0.7 for instance. while on the one hand, it has not been updated in almost a year (also, as in most roms, the twitter tab does not work anymore). but it combines wm6.1 with sense 2.5 and it is relatively fast.
but if you are actually all about the speed of the rom, you might want to try a stock rom, and simply move the weather tab to the 2nd position, right next to the home screen. it isnt't too much work to swipe over the display once to check the weather. just think of iphone users, who with one swipe only just unlocked their phone and are hardly ready to access all kinds of information without launching 267 apps
Fast rom and ram
Chef_Tony,
First of all sorry for going off topic i just have a few questions
1. Does more free Ram makes a rom faster. i mean if a rom have 100 MB free ram on start is faster then a ROM having 60 mb free ram.
2. I dont use manila, sense, titanium or any today screen, just resco today items, i use to have xperia x1 b4 my hd n there was this rom by laurenti, which have 160mb free ram.( x1 have 32 less ram then HD) and on my hd its only 100 mb(blackstonehedge v6.5) with sense, manila turn off, only resco today items, is there any ultra light rom like laurentis for hd(6.5 or 6.5.x bottom start button, X button closes app.)
3. if is there isnt any rom( i have searched, but might have missed) , can you please cook such a rom.
PS.
was using - Build 23134 - Laurenti v2 (new AKU 5309). from this thread on my x1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=676383
1. not necessarily. less ram usage extends your battery life and has more potential for running apps.
it does affect the speed, when the operating system, for the sake of the example, let's say wm6.5.5 with CHT 2.0, hogs all the ram and cpu power, trying to run a 3d game or watch hi-def video might get annoyingly slow.
but the general speed of the GUI cannot be read from ram or cpu usage alone. when picking a rom you should have a look, where certain packages come from. when a rom mostly consists of leo packages, you will see that it is quite slow, because the leo with 1ghz has much better resources. generally, packs from devices closer to the blackstone, like the rhodium, run slightly faster.
2. so much for the theory. if you don't use any of the built-in home screen extensions, you can pick practically any rom around here. either you go with wm6.1 for more speed, or you pick something newer for more finger-friendliness. in contrast to most other users, you don't need to choose your rom for the manila version. just have a look at the integrated apps, because that can really save you time, setting up the device.
3. there are several ultra-light roms:
- one would be a stock rom, it comes with almost no integrated apps and you'd only need to disable touchflo and you're good to go.
- there is also raving rom wm6.1, which comes without manila or sense, just a custom home screen and a very little ram footprint.
- in the energy roms thread, at the very bottom, you'll find a titanium rom, which is meant for users of own GUI solutions, like spb mobile shell or you resco home. but i wouldn't exactly call it ultra-light, because it comes with a lot of integrated apps.
p.s. despite my user name and avatar, i am not a rom chef, or any chef for that matter, it is just a parody of one of the most annoying persons in late night infomercials
so unfortunately i can't cook you a custom rom.
Thank you very much for a quick reply,
look like i black stonehendge is best option for me know, really appreciated your detailed answers.
thanks again
Nicely answered Chef_Tony
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