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Unlock Extended ROM

I know, this issue has been already treated in other posts, but up to now, I have not found a solution on how to unlock Extended ROM on the magician. Is that just one of those cases: "it is not possible".
Or did I oversee something somewhere else in the forum ?
Cheers
Hans

it is not locked.
it is just a section of the flash rom.
you can flash it using 'pflashrom' - i did not put a compiled version in itsutils, since i am afraid people will mess up there phones with it. if you are knowlegable enough to compile it, you can probably use it sensible enough not to break your phone.
willem

Since it is ROM (Read Only): does it mean, I can't write anything to it ?
Excuse my dumb questions.
I can see the Extended Rom either directly on the MDAc or thru Activesync with explorer. Thats not the problem.
When I try to copy something, it says that it is write protected.

itsme said:
it is not locked.
it is just a section of the flash rom.
you can flash it using 'pflashrom' - i did not put a compiled version in itsutils, since i am afraid people will mess up there phones with it. if you are knowlegable enough to compile it, you can probably use it sensible enough not to break your phone.
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Hi itsme,
where can i wind the pflashrom source please?
I looked in wiki and in your site, but cannot find it.
THANX
buzz

it is pnewbootloader.exe, renamed to 'pflashrom.exe'
see http://nah6.com/~itsme/cvs-xdadevtools/itsutils/src/Makefile and http://nah6.com/~itsme/cvs-xdadevtools/itsutils/src/pnewbootloader.cpp
willem

itsme said:
it is pnewbootloader.exe, renamed to 'pflashrom.exe'
see http://nah6.com/~itsme/cvs-xdadevtools/itsutils/src/Makefile and http://nah6.com/~itsme/cvs-xdadevtools/itsutils/src/pnewbootloader.cpp
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THANX
buzz

Hey Willem,
Okay, i have to compile these textfiles into a program? Using what? I'm a kind of person who doesn't ever do any hacking or programming but i heard a friend of mine say that you can clear the extended rom so you can use the memory as working or storage mem. i would like to... Any tips?
Cheers

Hey itsme,
I have been looking through your code for this and I have a question. I notice you are referencing specific addresses. I have a HP 6515 on its way and working with someone that has one, it seems to recycle alot of the Magician. Can you give me some tips on how to find the specific addresses on this device? Thanks.

Simple FAQ

New? Read this before you read anything else.
1Q. What is a Herald?
1A. A herald, is a device created by HTC. It is also sold under the HTC P4350, XDA Terra and the Tmobile Wing.
2Q. So the Wing is a Herald?
2A. Yes. But it has a different keyboard layout. Everything else is the same and ROMs from each other will work aside from the keyboard layout being
wrong.
3Q. What's a ROM?
3A. A ROM is the firmware (think of it like the windows installation) that your phone runs. There's the stock ones known as the "Official RUU's" and
the custom ones, known simply as "ROMs."
4Q. How do I flash a ROM?
4A. Read the sticky that tells you how here.
5Q. So the stickies are important?
5A. Yes. Read them first and you'll learn enough to ask intelligent questions and actually get answers that don't say, "READ!!! %#@$"
6Q. How do I flash USPL?
6A. USPL is NOT a ROM. It is a TOOL to flash other ROMs.
7Q. What's an NBH file?
7A. Read 4A.
8Q. Can I flash a Herald ROM into anything that's not one of the devices mentioned so far?
8A. No. You don't use diesel on a gas car.
9Q. Is HARDSpl permanent?
9A. Yes and no... it cannot be overridden unless you run USPL along with your RUU... If you don't understand this, please research and read some more.
10Q. I just installed HardSPL and now my device is stuck in the bootloader and gives me an SPL of 1.XXX!!!
10A. The intructions for that post specifically mentioned that you should NOT use this if you had an SPL lower than 4.xxx to begin with. I'm sorry but
you'll have to bring your phone to a repair center.
11Q. I just installed HardSPL... now I can't install my RUU.
11A. Did you read 9A? If you want to reinstall the stock software for some unknown reason but don't want to loose the HardSPL, you'll have to recompile
the RUU NBH so that it lacks its SPL.
12Q. Why are there so many stickies?
12A. Because we have a nice but sticky happy mod. If you don't like it, you haven't read enough of them. READ THEM AL.Alol
13Q. Can I ask you questions before reading the stickies?
13A. No. If you have, it's because you didn't read this... which consequently means that I've sent you here to read.
14Q. Why are people mean to me?
14A. You didn't read, bricked your device and then complained about it... read.
15Q. Why does everyone want a black rom? Why not a Puerto Rican rom? Or a white Rom?
15A. That's a weird question... go away.
16Q. How long should I wait for an answer for before I post another post about it?
16A. Indefinitively. If no one answers in ONE WEEK. Then bump your own thread. Do NOT create another thread. It might be cause for someone to beat you up... cause we've got our thugs that do that kind of stuff for us... we're watching...
17Q. Why did you miss # 10?
17A. Made you look.
18Q. What's the best ROM?
18A. It depends on your needs.
19Q. Ok, then what's the best ROM for me?
19A. Pop quiz: What's the best possible car for me... and no, you can't ask me questions. Off the top of your head, without knowing anything about my needs and wants. What is the best car for me. And mind you, if you get me something I don't like later on, I will come back complaining...
20Q. I have a Terra. Where is the RUU?
20A. Right there with answer #20154221445. Yea... it doesn't exist.
21Q. How do I install XXX?
21A. Did you read the walkthrough/readme file? If there wasn't a walkthrough included with it, is it a cab? If it's a cab, then run the cab... from the phone. If it's just random files, usually copy them over the windows folder. USUALLY... not always...
22Q. But it gives me an authentication error when I try to install this.
22A. Make sure that if you're installing... say.... the CommManager. That the CommManager isn't open in the background.
23Q. Is it ok to ask a question completely unreleated to the subject on a thread?
23A. No.
24Q. Is it ok to ask about a bug fix for ANOTHER ROM on one ROM's thread? Their ROM doesn't have this bug.
24A. Is it ok to go to Ford and ask them about why their Chevy has a leak in the radiator by design?
25Q. Why won't the cook give me a cab file that he used on his ROM?
25A. He didn't use a cab file. He used an OEM package.
26Q. Why won't he share his OEM Package?
26A. If it's a program he made, it's his intellectual property. If it's a program he didn't make, then he just doesn't feel like sharing for one reason or another. I don't read minds, so I wouldn't know.
27Q. If you can't read minds... how do you know all this stuff?
27A. I read... and cook... and read... and umm... yea... OK I CAN READ MINDS! STOP IT WITH THAT WEIRD LOOK!
More to come... stay tuned.

ivanmmj said:
12Q. Why are there so many stickies?
12A. Because we have a nice but sticky happy mod. If you don't like it, you haven't read enough of them. READ THEM AL.Alol
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Do you think it'd be possible to consolidate some of these into a "Danger Will Robinson, DANGER!" post or two? The stickies are nice, but it's half of the first page
23Q. Is it ok to ask a question completely unreleated to the subject on a thread?
23A. No.
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Why did the dinosaurs go extinct? - Peter Griffin

simplicity05 said:
Do you think it'd be possible to consolidate some of these into a "Danger Will Robinson, DANGER!" post or two? The stickies are nice, but it's half of the first page
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I'm not a mod... But that'd be a funny title for a sticky.
Why did the dinosaurs go extinct? - Peter Griffin
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lol

I agree. We need to consolidate the stickies so that it doesn't look the development forum.
and, for your information, the dinosaurs went extinct because they were homosexual sinners. duh. </sarcasm>

Just to be clear, I think Papamopps is doing a splendid job. But maybe creating only a few stickies and linking them to the items... OR placing all this into WIKI articles and then linking to them in one sticky.

ivanmmj said:
Just to be clear, I think Papamopps is doing a splendid job. But maybe creating only a few stickies and linking them to the items... OR placing all this into WIKI articles and then linking to them in one sticky.
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ok. jsut tell me what stickys to unstick.
i was just thinking the same.
BUT there are so many important ones.
And i don´t what to usntick and then hear.
"Why did you unstick my thread xy...!
So tell me. I´ll do my best
BTW - when puting all important threads into a link-collections. THEY WON`T disappear from the forum 1st page. if someone writes inside it..... it WILL appear on TOP.
And why did you post your Faq - on "Herlad mobile 6"????? - is it WM6 related NO!!!! so psot it in Herald genereal.
And next time (as an answer to FAQ12) - write a PM to me and give your knownledge in making it better!!
Best regards.

I moved the thread because it is not WM6 related.
I don´t want verbal fights here. I´m open for PM and you have my msn Ivan - so why don´t you contact me before psoting such a "crap" in some aprts of it.
Thanks.

This post was done half as a joke (like the sticky part and the other jokes) and as a real FAQ just because I was bored. Sorry if I offended you.

ivanmmj said:
This post was done half as a joke (like the sticky part and the other jokes) and as a real FAQ just because I was bored. Sorry if I offended you.
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let´s make joke via MSN. then only people are involved - who know eachother well.
But noone is involved who is searching real help....

Need Flash Center

I was doing some reading, and I read that there are basically two versions of flash center....One that is for hard spl, and one for non.
I read this quote , "I forgot and included my personal flashcenter, which is used for devices that have been HARD-SPL. If your device is not HARD-SPl, please down load the other flashcenter."
My phone isn't Hard spl, so can someone point me in the direction of the other flash center? I don't know how to tell which one is for non-hard spl. Thanks guys.

I would like to see this also, as you can search all of xda forums and not find any app named flash center or flashcenter. people should not refer to it, if it does not exist. if it does please post link.

The only difference with the HardSPL one and the non-HardSPL one is that the non-HardSPL has more files in it... look at the Read First post in one of the Herald threads and it will have a link on a flashing walkthrough that I created. It has links to things and a complete walkthrough to flashing.

ivanmmj said:
The only difference with the HardSPL one and the non-HardSPL one is that the non-HardSPL has more files in it... look at the Read First post in one of the Herald threads and it will have a link on a flashing walkthrough that I created. It has links to things and a complete walkthrough to flashing.
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So, here comes a noob question, but, if you use the flash center for hard spl on a non hard spl'd phone, you will get an error right? I will do more searching for it, but I don't understand. I used the same flash center to go from stock rom to open touch 3.0 with NO problems, but now that I try to go to open touch 4.0, every time i run the ruu, it gets to about 2-4 percent, and gives a error message saying something about a corrupt file. I of course tried redownloading different versions of 4.0 to make sure it wasn't a bad file and it wasn't.

Make sure you're not trying to install OpenTouch micro. That one will not flash through ANY Flash Center. Like my own Just2Clean, it requires flashing through a SD card and the phone has to be HardSPL. The reason being that it bypasses the phone's ROM size requirements.

ivanmmj said:
The only difference with the HardSPL one and the non-HardSPL one is that the non-HardSPL has more files in it... look at the Read First post in one of the Herald threads and it will have a link on a flashing walkthrough that I created. It has links to things and a complete walkthrough to flashing.
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This is the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358615 . The links to flash center is dead though.
Edit: Oops. Found the mirror link near the bottom. Works fine.

foltz61 said:
This is the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358615 . The links to flash center is dead though.
Edit: Oops. Found the mirror link near the bottom. Works fine.
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I appreciate it guys, but I ended up FINALLY hard spl'ing, so I can use the flash center I have.

New questions

I read and searched a lot on the forum before posting this.
1/ Why is there 1000 methods to flash a ROM?
2/ Do I need to do a partition in all cases?
3/ Is there a ROM for 32A that adds multi touch to my device?
4/ Might be a lot to ask but why is there no PROPER tutorial on how to install a ROM?
5/ Can I brick my phone?
Thanks for your time.

This is not a development question. This belongs in the Q&A section. Read the stickies. From those stickies, you would also see a Hacking Wiki for the sapphire.
Read that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538979

cizake said:
I read and searched a lot on the forum before posting this.
1/ Why is there 1000 methods to flash a ROM?
2/ Do I need to do a partition in all cases?
3/ Is there a ROM for 32A that adds multi touch to my device?
4/ Might be a lot to ask but why is there no PROPER tutorial on how to install a ROM?
5/ Can I brick my phone?
Thanks for your time.
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I have found out using the forums that 32A do not support multitouch.

WebghostDK said:
I have found out using the forums that 32A do not support multitouch.
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Yes they do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=568032, for example.

WebghostDK said:
I have found out using the forums that 32A do not support multitouch.
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I use MyHero 1.1.3 (32A with BFS 303 kernel) and multitouch DOES work. But it needs to be supported by the software, works great in the browser for example.

Ok good to know, i was not quite sure about it

cizake said:
I read and searched a lot on the forum before posting this.
1/ Why is there 1000 methods to flash a ROM?
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Erm .. there's only one way to flash a rom ..
- Download rom and copy it to the sd card root folder
- Boot into recovery
- Do a nandroid backup
- wipe
- Flash the new rom
- reboot
4/ Might be a lot to ask but why is there no PROPER tutorial on how to install a ROM?
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Look at the link in my signature, has all the detail an Android newbie needs.
Also check the Sapphire hacking wiki as bcrook mentioned above.
And use the forum search button!

st0kes said:
Erm .. there's only one way to flash a rom ..
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Thats what I was thinking too
and my fav question out of the list:
Can I brick my phone?
Let me answer this one... from your list of questions I find it hard to believe you even know what "brick" means (no offense) but you should NOT even attempt to change anything about your phone except for whats in the menu>settings>sounds/display area
and I'll say it again no offense but people like this that have no idea what their doing is why the companies are so against us gaining root access because yeah theres some of us that understand what we are doing and the concept of linux but then you have these people that have NO CLUE then screw their phones up and guess who they call... not the dev, but the company crying about how they need a new phone...
Bottom line is if you dont know what you doing, DONT DO IT!

cizake said:
I read and searched a lot on the forum before posting this.
5/ Can I brick my phone?
Thanks for your time.
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if you are asking this question, yes you will brick your phone

[Q] HD2: Switching ROM to ROM

So I purchased an HD2 from someone and it already has android ported to it. I dont like the ROM that is currently on it and i'm wantign to change it to the Desire HD ROM but I'm sorta stuck.
What steps do I have to do in order to do this? Do I have to remove the current ROM and install the new one? Can I just install the new one on the SD card and *BAM* thats it? do i have to clean the traces of the old ROM?
I have a million questions basically. Can SOMEBODY give me step by step instructions of how to do this or give me a link on how to do this?

To make a build work from the SD card, you need to have Windows Mobile OS.
If you want Android working from Nand, just boot into MAGLDR, hardreset your NAND memory, this will wipe the NAND;
Then enter USB Flasher mode in MAGLDR and either you can flash a new ROM or flash CWM Recovery - a tool from which you can install zipped ROM files from your SD.
Basically, chose the ROM you like to install on your device, and follow the steps provided there, those steps will be sufficient to wipe the previous ROM and install the new one.

beans_p_ said:
So I purchased an HD2 from someone and it already has android ported to it. I dont like the ROM that is currently on it and i'm wantign to change it to the Desire HD ROM but I'm sorta stuck.
What steps do I have to do in order to do this? Do I have to remove the current ROM and install the new one? Can I just install the new one on the SD card and *BAM* thats it? do i have to clean the traces of the old ROM?
I have a million questions basically. Can SOMEBODY give me step by step instructions of how to do this or give me a link on how to do this?
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Start here..
Continue here...
Then decide if u want a SD or NAND build from here

voncrane said:
Start here..
Continue here...
Then decide if u want a SD or NAND build from here
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Dude, you're a duchebag. Why would I come to a forum (not just a forum, but a Q&A forum) if I havent already looked. Thats why I hate XDA, jacka**es like you and every other "senior member" on this dang website. I come here for help and get insulted by you.
Now who looks like the dumba**? The person that actually needs help or the person that takes to time to not only point out that your a "noob" but also gives you links the the forum that I was already on.
I wish that there was another webiste other than XDA that was interested in HELPING PEOPLE. Rather than just putting them down. The "senior members" need to take a look at themselves and come off their high and mighty cloud and actuall take the time to help the ones that need it.

Wow, no need to be so harsh. And if you keep that up you'll just help turn this into a flame thread, hence the lock down of this thread by a mod. Look at the second link he gave you, it contains links to all the useful information about a HD2, and the answers to your question.
Anyways, look at this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021837
That thread will give you all the answers, read, read, read, I'm dead serious, it has all the answers.
Read the whole thing.
Best of luck.

beans_p_ said:
Dude, you're a duchebag. Why would I come to a forum (not just a forum, but a Q&A forum) if I havent already looked. Thats why I hate XDA, jacka**es like you and every other "senior member" on this dang website. I come here for help and get insulted by you.
Now who looks like the dumba**? The person that actually needs help or the person that takes to time to not only point out that your a "noob" but also gives you links the the forum that I was already on.
I wish that there was another webiste other than XDA that was interested in HELPING PEOPLE. Rather than just putting them down. The "senior members" need to take a look at themselves and come off their high and mighty cloud and actuall take the time to help the ones that need it.
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Any1 can type on the keyboard but not every1 can control what they type on it...U asked for help and LINKS...i pointed u in d best directions u'll ever get...XDA is a developers-based site hence its url and not some cry-baby forum..Grow up, read up and come back...Then u'll get help...

beans_p_ said:
So I purchased an HD2 from someone and it already has android ported to it. I dont like the ROM that is currently on it and i'm wantign to change it to the Desire HD ROM but I'm sorta stuck.
What steps do I have to do in order to do this? Do I have to remove the current ROM and install the new one? Can I just install the new one on the SD card and *BAM* thats it? do i have to clean the traces of the old ROM?
I have a million questions basically. Can SOMEBODY give me step by step instructions of how to do this or give me a link on how to do this?
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Start by going to the windows mobile 6.5 dev thread and in the sticky you will find the task29 without mtty thread, get it. Check what radio you're running and if you don't have the 2.15.50, get it from the same sticky. Now come to android nand dev and find the latest MGLDR and get that too, find a rom you would like to use, find the partition size for such rom and get it.
Now start by task29.
Flash 2.15.50 radio if you don't have it.(if you do skip it)
Flash MGLDR- Either thru DAF or RUU.
Flash Clockworkmod recovery with needed partition.
Copy all your SD card content to pc and within clockworkmod advanced settings, format SD card to 1024mb with 0 swap.
Drop into the SD card the rom zip only and flash it, once done you can transfer the rest of your stuff back to the SD card from pc.
I hope this can help you a bit with your learning of android flashing in the hd2
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