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Haykuro SPL 1.33.2005

I have currently the Engineering SPL and I am thinking of trying the Haykuro builds that for what I have been reading require the SPL 1.33.2005, for what I understand it frees up memory for Haykuro builds, my question is would I lose the functionality of the Engineering SPL? Is the SPL 1.33.2005 like the standard rainbow SPL? Would I be able to return to the JF builds if I decide too?
Could someone go about the pros and cons of going to the SPL 1.33.2005? Thank you all in advance.

pros more space and compatible with all builds
cons you may brick your phoen to a point that we cannot fix
thank you have a nice day

I agree to me its just a normal spl and I already tried flashing to id 1.51 and it worked fine. U have to be carefully web flashing that spl because if urnot carefully it will brick Ur phone. Just do more research

Thank you for the answers guys, one more question would I be able to use fastboot with SPL 1.33.2005?

recoil said:
Thank you for the answers guys, one more question would I be able to use fastboot with SPL 1.33.2005?
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yes...
also, since it hasn't been mentioned in this thread...make sure you have a PVT board before applying this SPL (check by booting to your current bootloader / SPL / skateboarding android screen and read the text @ the top)
...and update to the latest radio BEFORE flashing the SPL

recoil said:
Thank you for the answers guys, one more question would I be able to use fastboot with SPL 1.33.2005?
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yes you can.

Guys, I already have the 261 radio which i believe is the latest one, do i still need to reflash the radio before i flash the latest spl or can i just skip the radio?

You have the correct radio, so as long as you have a PVT board, you should be okay. Just don't flash back to an older radio version with that SPL.

Does It Have Hard SPL Features?
Does anyone know whether this has the same features of the HardSPL? I don't want to lose the ability to do nandroid backups, or to have a busybox console to get into.
If this is just a modified HardSPL then I'll probably take the plunge, otherwise I think I'll wait until Haykuru's modifications get added to the HardSPL.

kathi17 said:
You have the correct radio, so as long as you have a PVT board, you should be okay. Just don't flash back to an older radio version with that SPL.
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That's the deciding factor for me. I like being able to flash back and forth between radio roms. The original 1.22 RR seems to work better for me with most of the updated roms.

Sorry to ask but I searched for this answer to no avail - how can I tell if I have a PVT board? I had my G1 before release (employee), I am almost positive it is, but is there a terminal command to show what version I have?

@TheMan: this was just a few posts up
alapapa said:
yes...
also, since it hasn't been mentioned in this thread...make sure you have a PVT board before applying this SPL (check by booting to your current bootloader / SPL / skateboarding android screen and read the text @ the top)
...and update to the latest radio BEFORE flashing the SPL
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TheMan42 said:
Sorry to ask but I searched for this answer to no avail - how can I tell if I have a PVT board? I had my G1 before release (employee), I am almost positive it is, but is there a terminal command to show what version I have?
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power + camera button

i tried flashing the new SPL to my G1 with Dude's 1.2a and my phone was hanging @ the G1 screen. I applied the old HardSPL and everything is ok again... can i apply the new SPL and reflash dude 1.2a and get good results??

Praeluceo said:
Does anyone know whether this has the same features of the HardSPL? I don't want to lose the ability to do nandroid backups, or to have a busybox console to get into.
If this is just a modified HardSPL then I'll probably take the plunge, otherwise I think I'll wait until Haykuru's modifications get added to the HardSPL.
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i had HardSPL then finally decided to flash H's SPL. be careful because it is possible to brick your phone!
the most noticeable difference i saw was the more internal memory. from a wipe, from 52mb norm to 62+mb i think.
this is what cyanogen told me about H's newest SPL.
cyanogen said:
I have Haykuro's SPL. It removes the /cache mount and adds the space to /system, thats all. It has bricked some peoples phones, though.
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my board is PVT but my radio is 3.22.20.17

gwydionwaters said:
my board is PVT but my radio is 3.22.20.17
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mine too
have you done anything to your phone yet

I tried flashing the radio and SPL before I read not to (rogers ftw)
And it went to the flash loading bar and just resets and nothing happens. I tried the alt-w first and flashing just doesnt work.
I know now that was a bad idea but it didnt do anything anyway.

Where did the extra System space come from?
I have a question about Haykuro's SPL. I understand he bumped up the System size. But where did he allocate space from? Will that space be needed in the future? Sorry, if this is a noob question.
Thanks

Praeluceo said:
Does anyone know whether this has the same features of the HardSPL? I don't want to lose the ability to do nandroid backups, or to have a busybox console to get into.
If this is just a modified HardSPL then I'll probably take the plunge, otherwise I think I'll wait until Haykuru's modifications get added to the HardSPL.
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it does have all the features .. and more

Attempt to fix my phone

First, my problem started with either updating to the new JFv1.43 recovery, or flashing the new SPL from Haykuro.
Symptoms:
1. Everytime I flash a new ROM, wipe or no wipe, I come back stuck at the T-Mobile G1 boot screen. The only way I've found to get through is to take out battery and boot into ADB (the Camera + Power screen) and "fastboot flash boot boot.img". This almost always work.
2. Nandroid stopped working. Nandroid always errors during the process of backing up, and I'd only have splash1.img and splash2.img in the nandroid folder of my SD card. Kind of want to try reflashing the JFv1.43, or even go back to 1.42 (can't find) for troubleshooting. Also not sure if this would affect the new SPL and cause a brick.
3. "Insufficient storage available" with Dude's and Cyanogen's builds. I'm not sure if this one is related to recovery or SPL. This might be caused by past attempts at doing apps2sd (I've done both symlink and unionfs).
Anyways, losing Nandroid has lost me a lot of time with trying out new ROM's, I'd really like to get it fixed. The boot stuck is a nuisance, but much less troublesome than losing Nandroid.

Its the SPL.

lbcoder said:
Its the SPL.
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So then I'm stuck in this situation? Since the SPL can't be downgraded.

cigar3tte said:
So then I'm stuck in this situation? Since the SPL can't be downgraded.
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I'm not positive (***so dont do this without researching***) but i think it would be possible to flash to a different one ( i mean, you flashed another SPL over the original one, right? ).
There is a "mega-thread" that has information on all the SPL's and their features/updates. If the info is anywhere, it's prob in there. Search in the Dev forum.

tr.slate said:
I'm not positive (***so dont do this without researching***) but i think it would be possible to flash to a different one ( i mean, you flashed another SPL over the original one, right? ).
There is a "mega-thread" that has information on all the SPL's and their features/updates. If the info is anywhere, it's prob in there. Search in the Dev forum.
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As far as I can remember, that is where I read that you can't flash the older SPL over the new one.

cigar3tte said:
as far as i can remember, that is where i read that you can't flash the older spl over the new one.
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damn the man!

cigar3tte said:
As far as I can remember, that is where I read that you can't flash the older SPL over the new one.
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I could be wrong, but the key is not flashing an older RADIO with the newer spl.
You should still be able to go back to hardspl with no issues.

cigar3tte said:
As far as I can remember, that is where I read that you can't flash the older SPL over the new one.
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I have flashed from the New H SPL to the HardSPL i originally had on the phone when I found out people were having trouble with the SPL. I install the NEW SPL again to run Hero, but you CAN flash it back to the older SPL I would recomend HARDSPL though.
*not responsible if this doesn't work but I was able to do this without any trouble. Was just a bit nerve racking.

i am 99% sure the above post is correct, don't flash a different radio, but you can flash another SPL right over the Haykuro SPL. i would double check that as there is a 1% chance it will totally screw your phone and i don't wanna be the guy that told you to do something that bricked your phone, but it should work. just to be safe you should make sure splash1 is the t-mo g1 screen so if it stops you can call t-mo

i flashed from the latest haykuro spl 1.33.2005 , to the original t-mobile spl HBOOT-0.95.0000. I fastbooted and it was showing the original spl installed.

Cannot boot after radio and spl update

After updating radio and spl my phone is stuck on the "T.. Mobile" "G1" boot screen.
Any help available? can I access the sd card without booting?

What SPL?
Ten characters...

sjbayer3 said:
After updating radio and spl my phone is stuck on the "T.. Mobile" "G1" boot screen.
Any help available? can I access the sd card without booting?
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Was it haykuro's SPL? Can you get in to recovery (power+home) or the bootloader (power+camera)?

if it's haykuro's spl...
Hopefully, you READ & FOLLOWED the directions and flashed the RADIO first, then flashed the SPL. If you did not, then your phone is bricked.

if u cn get into recovery reflash ur rom. and like everyone else says hope u flashed the radio 1st

I did the radio first
I was able to boot into recovery, i tried a wipe and a few things but couldnt get it.
Eventually I got it by reflashing cyanogenmod.

sjbayer3 said:
I did the radio first
I was able to boot into recovery, i tried a wipe and a few things but couldnt get it.
Eventually I got it by reflashing cyanogenmod.
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The SPL wipes the ROM, so after flashing the SPL you would need to reflash >.>

AdrianK said:
The SPL wipes the ROM, so after flashing the SPL you would need to reflash >.>
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This may sound like a silly question but please forgive me as I have not yet flashed the haykuro spl.
Once you've flashed the new spl, instead of flashing the update.zip of the cyanogen rom, can't you use nandroid restore? Or will that restore the previous spl as well (in my case HARD SPL)?
I ask because I would like to try the spl, but I'm so comfortable with my rom and settings that I would hate to wipe just to try Hero which is still in development. Call me crazy, but I like stable and finished builds. But I am curious and with a lot of time on my hands but not so much that I'm willing to lose everything just to try something that I'm not going to keep.

Binary100100 said:
This may sound like a silly question but please forgive me as I have not yet flashed the haykuro spl.
Once you've flashed the new spl, instead of flashing the update.zip of the cyanogen rom, can't you use nandroid restore? Or will that restore the previous spl as well (in my case HARD SPL)?
I ask because I would like to try the spl, but I'm so comfortable with my rom and settings that I would hate to wipe just to try Hero which is still in development. Call me crazy, but I like stable and finished builds. But I am curious and with a lot of time on my hands but not so much that I'm willing to lose everything just to try something that I'm not going to keep.
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I'm not actually sure about using nandroid after the SPL flash, but I'm certain that nandroid doesn't copy your SPL (I could be wrong). It would make sense for it to work.

i update inly spl from 1.33.0009 to 1.33.1000 and when its boot greeze in vodafone logo
what happend?
thnks

sjbayer3 said:
After updating radio and spl my phone is stuck on the "T.. Mobile" "G1" boot screen.
Any help available? can I access the sd card without booting?
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I HAd The Same Issue, BUT YOU DIDNT BRICK YOUR PHONE all YOu Need To Do Is Flash The Rom , Thats The Resone Its Stayin On The Boot Screen Because Of No ROm Installed So Go Into Recovery >connect Your phone> choose usb toggle in recovery> (if on your pc you need a drivers, try putting the sdcard iin a next phone and connect it to the cpu> drag your rom to your sdcard (ROOT NOT IN A FOLDER) and flash it wen it boot first its gonna take long but dont worry it would come on :good:
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If You Still having problems just reply to my post

HTC Magic 32A recovery and ROM freezes

Hi,
Already posted part of the situation in Amon_RA's recovery thread but neither of the answers there seem to solve my problems. Decided to post it here since the problem seems to involve aspects other than the recovery itself.
Here's the complete situation:
Had problems with RA recovery freezes since the start and with different versions. I could (and can) enter recovery mode (v1.6.2), scroll down the options but after 15 seconds the recovery just freezes and reboots every single time. Checked the version (H) and the MD5, they where all correct. Tried cm-recovery-1.4-32A and it seems to work fine but when I flash a ROM (1.6) I have similar problems with the ROM (freeze+reboot in "touch droid setup"). Curiously I flashed my hero 2.0.5 (1.5) and had no problems...
Tried booting the latest RA recovery trough fast-boot and it worked fine the first two times I did it (scrolled down the options for like 10 minutes and it didn't freeze). After that it did not work and got the freezes+rebooting problem back again. Tried ADB, Flash-rec and flashed the recovery but got the freeze+reboot problem once again. Re-checked the version and MD5 and they where all correct.
Why does this happen? Any clues?
Thanks for your help!

I'm kind of lost here...Could it be a radio or SPL problem? Should I re-flash/update it? I never had problems with the stock ROM so this situation is really odd...
Can anyone help?
Thanks in advance!

strange... try some random methods here lol (I don't know if they'll work though but it can't hurt)
First, try flashing an ENG SPL, see if that makes a diff
If that fails, try flashing a whole new ROM/RADIO/SPL
for example: Since you're a 32A user, I believe you can flash the 6.35.x radio and the 1.76.2007 SPL and then use the hero recovery. Test out a rom on the new radio for like a day and try out the recovery. See if that freezes! (This doesn't really accomplish much though because even if it doesn't freeze, i think you'll wanna go back to the old radio to try out other roms lol. You risk bricking your phone if you don't understand this stuff so don't do it if that's the case)
But anyways, I'm a bit confused. What rom are u using?
noroses said:
Hi,
Tried cm-recovery-1.4-32A and it seems to work fine but when I flash a ROM (1.6) I have similar problems with the ROM (freeze+reboot in "touch droid setup"). Curiously I flashed my hero 2.0.5 (1.5) and had no problems...
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So you can use the recovery fine, until you flash a rom? So when you flash a rom, your recovery beings to freeze. But when you flash a different rom, your recovery works fine? Weird. Sounds like a problem when you're flashing a rom...
I have no idea dude but what I would do if I was in your situation:
1) Flash ENG SPL, something like 1.33.0010 (double check everything, i dont like advising people to play with their spl/radio so dont just take my word)
2) load up recovery and give it a try! if all that fails...
3) I'd backup your phone via nandroid in recovery (i pray that it doesn't freeze lol)
4) Wipe wipe wipe
5) Go into fastboot, fastboot erase system -w and then try another rom! And if the rom is good, then go back to your old one. Try to find out what the prob is.
It appears that you're able to flash roms still even with your recovery freezing (so weird) so I dunno. Just give it a try I guess lol

very weird indeed.... question.. does this do this when plugged in as well as on battery? ive heard of some really weird issues with bad batteries....
i would try what kawata recommended as well.. kind of just a process of elimination...
hopefully you dont have a hardware issue..

Hi,
strange... try some random methods here lol (I don't know if they'll work though but it can't hurt)
First, try flashing an ENG SPL, see if that makes a diff
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Will try this. Can I flash the SPL trough the recovery?
If that fails, try flashing a whole new ROM/RADIO/SPL
for example: Since you're a 32A user, I believe you can flash the 6.35.x radio and the 1.76.2007 SPL and then use the hero recovery. Test out a rom on the new radio for like a day and try out the recovery. See if that freezes! (This doesn't really accomplish much though because even if it doesn't freeze, i think you'll wanna go back to the old radio to try out other roms lol. You risk bricking your phone if you don't understand this stuff so don't do it if that's the case)
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Will have to check and recheck this complex process.
But anyways, I'm a bit confused. What rom are u using?
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Now I'm using stock 1.5. I tried cyanogen, superD and other 1.6 Roms and they all freezed at the android setup process. Used myhero for a week with no problems whatsoever. Since I have a nandroid backup done with CM's recovery I restore everything back as it was.
So you can use the recovery fine, until you flash a rom? So when you flash a rom, your recovery beings to freeze. But when you flash a different rom, your recovery works fine? Weird. Sounds like a problem when you're flashing a rom...
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The Amon_Ra recovery freezes every time. It doesn't give me enough time to do anything...Now I'm using CM's recovery and I have no freezing problems while in recovery mode. The problem is after I flash a Rom and reboot. The ROM experiences freezing problems (just like the Amon_Ra's recovery).
Thank you for your answer and suggestions!

digitaljeff said:
very weird indeed.... question.. does this do this when plugged in as well as on battery? ive heard of some really weird issues with bad batteries....
i would try what kawata recommended as well.. kind of just a process of elimination...
hopefully you dont have a hardware issue..
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Hi,
Thanks for your answer.
I have never tried with the phone plugged into a socket but did it with the phone running on battery and connected via usb to the computer. Should it make a difference?
Could it be a hardware problem? I never had problems with the stock ROM or with the myhero ROM...

it could be hardware...
if you want to flash to new radio and spl please follow this guide to the T or else you will get a brick, you cannot flash radio and spl via recovery.
so...
follow this guide and all will be good... must have adb ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=605239

digitaljeff said:
it could be hardware...
if you want to flash to new radio and spl please follow this guide to the T or else you will get a brick, you cannot flash radio and spl via recovery.
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follow this guide and all will be good... must have adb ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=605239
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Checked that guide but I'm unsure about this part:
If you do not have an Engineering SPL, download 1.33.2010 and flash through recovery before starting this procedure. Flash the SPL update.zip like any other update.zip file.
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This part I can do within the recovery to enable flashing via fast-boot right?

yup you can flash the eng spl via recovery ... i should have been more specific and said you cant flash new radio and spl via recovery
for the new radio,spl and recovery you do through fastboot
good luck

digitaljeff said:
yup you can flash the eng spl via recovery ... i should have been more specific and said you cant flash new radio and spl via recovery
for the new radio,spl and recovery you do through fastboot
good luck
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Will try that tomorrow.
Thanks for your help!

digitaljeff said:
very weird indeed.... question.. does this do this when plugged in as well as on battery? ive heard of some really weird issues with bad batteries....
i would try what kawata recommended as well.. kind of just a process of elimination...
hopefully you dont have a hardware issue..
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Hi again,
Still didn't mess with SPL and Radio. I'm still afraid I'll brick the phone..However yesterday tried a few simple things like using another sd card or entering recovery while plugged in. These two things seem to influence the behavior of the latest Amon_RA recovery but don't solve my problem completely. Example: When I enter recovery using the original SD card (2gb) the recovery would freeze within 20 secs max. Using another SD card (128mb) most of the times it would take longer to freeze (4 or 5 minutes). Sometimes it would not freeze at all. Although this seemed to influence what happened it wasn't constant and could not find a pattern. The same with the phone plugged into computer. Sometimes it helped. One thing is certain: with the original SD card and unplugged from the computer the recovery freezes within 20 secs every single time.
With the CM 1.4 recovery never had any freeze problems. It seems to work great while in recovery mode. The problem is after a flash a ROM I have freeze problems with the ROM itself (tried different ROM's, CM, SuperD, etc and got the same freeze problem). The only Rom that worked fine was myhero 2.0.5.
This is a very strange situation and I'm starting to think that this could be hardware..

Would that be a SD card problem?
try using another SD card and see if the problem still occurs

I am having exactly the same problem, did you ever find a solution?
Went from a fully updated magic 32A (1.76.0009H) now i'm at 1.76.0008
UPDATE: I just found that the hero recovery works (I would post link but xda doesn't allow new users to do that) however it may still be necessary to downgrade radio and spl

I had also same problem. My device is Magic 32A radio 6.35. Solution was to reflash recovery-RA-hero-v1.6.2.img.

HELP! Soft Bricked phone!

I unroot my mytouch using the old sappimg.nbh method.
It flash successfully but now it won't boot!
I got a S-ON spl so I can't do fastboot and there is no recovery menu
I can still get into the fastboot menu but that is it
Can I use a 32B RUU to recover my phone then root it, flash the correct splash screen, then flash the correct spl & radio for my region?

i BELIEVE so... as long as you can get to hboot menu you should be able to RUU... did you have RAM hack installed .0013d?

I'd go back to T-Mobile default and start all over.
This post has info and links to restore 1.5, upgrade to 1.6 and then 2.2
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Opera...ooting-installing-Donut-and-Froyo/td-p/505421
If you want to flash a custom ROM just restore to 1.6; if you want to take advantage of the extra ram then restore to 2.2 and accept the OTA update.
Hope it helps.
--
Carlos

All my current mytouch info before I soft bricked is in my sig.
I tried the sappimg.nbh from that forum topic but no matter how many times I flashed it, it doesn't work
Any way thanks for your help, I'm getting a replacement phone on friday

UberMario said:
All my current mytouch info before I soft bricked is in my sig.
I tried the sappimg.nbh from that forum topic but no matter how many times I flashed it, it doesn't work
Any way thanks for your help, I'm getting a replacement phone on friday
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since you are on the 2708+ radio and kernel you might need to downgrade those in fastboot... then try to reroot... but you are getting a new device anyhow...
edit: reread your first post and S-on... sorry... maybe next time try to downgrade the radio and spl before downgrading ROM...

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since you are on the 2708+ radio and kernel you might need to downgrade those in fastboot... then try to reroot... but you are getting a new device anyhow...
edit: reread your first post and S-on... sorry... maybe next time try to downgrade the radio and spl before downgrading ROM...
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I was going to try fastboot cyanogenmod 6 or a donut rom but the spl that came with the new radio is S-ON so I can't fastboot anything
then the sappimg.nbh made the spl a perfected spl