Well since I'm stuck getting this from a Canadian carrier I get screwed over when it comes to transfer. I'm eyeing the 500mb plan, but I'm not sure what I should get. I would use the device for internet most days, sometimes for MSN, and I would be wanting background data with gmail sync on.
So I'm curious as to what you folks use, if you wouldn't mind, I would love to hear what you use your phone for, and how much data you consume monthy.
Cheers, Dave
last month i used 1.2 GB of data.
I average between 750MB to 2 gigs of data a month.
I go on youtube. Browse the web. Have a lot of apps that use the web. Shazam. ProjectINF and cestos use a lot of data. FML. Maps with navigation. Twidroid. On a rare occasion I tether my phone but have not done so for months.
I have unlimited data, but I probably use only under 200MB a month. If T-Mo would extend 3G out to my home I would use data more, but now I'm stuck using wifi most of the time :/
usage
i use about 9GB a month, but i tether a lot(i don't have internet access without it) and i play games like cestos. i have performed a test where gmail uses about 1GB in a month to check my mail, but then again i get about 10 emails a day and i respond to most of them. you could always turn off autosync and that would cut back on your usage.
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i use about 9GB a month, but i tether a lot(i don't have internet access without it) and i play games like cestos. i have performed a test where gmail uses about 1GB in a month to check my mail, but then again i get about 10 emails a day and i respond to most of them. you could always turn off autosync and that would cut back on your usage.
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T-Mobile's cap is 10 Gigs a month, right?
yeah, one time they seant me a text message telling me i was over the cap and the claimed to drop my bandwdth, but since i was already on EDGE i didn't noctice a difference.
you're on edge? That's a bummer. Where do you live?
i'm in st. louis MO, i have 3G now but it only arrived two to three months ago so i didn't have it when i went over.
Actually iirc there's no cap on edge, just 3g. Tho I've got the same text msg, i think it's just computer sent after you hit 10gigs. I'm in the same boat as tubaking182. Edge (and gprs :'( @ times) tethering is all I have out here in the boon docks and my bandwidth is all over the place so who knows.
hmm Seems I'm only up to 70mb or so tonight.. slow night lol
edit: the same boat tubaking182 used to be. atm I'm in middle of moontaana.. think they're expected to get 3g in 2054 or so..:/
What would be the best program to use to mesure the usage? Something that would split edge/3g from wifi, by program/process would be cool so I could see sync useage alone.
I've always liked NetCounter. Tho it doesn't measure individual apps usage. NetMeter claims to but I have yet to put it to a real world test.
Thanks, I'll get both and see. NetCounter said 25mb today after I installed it, I don't know how it came up with that though off the bat, and 8mb on wifi (downloading those two programs + some email).
So the min I would use a month if that data was correct is 300mb/mo no tethering though, just normal use (gmail, twitdroid, FB).
Maybe 20GB/month? My carrier has no limit or throttling on 3G usage.
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ah, I'm with Bell and have a 500mb maximum, so I guess no background data for me
From the UK
To give the UK perspective: G1 on T-Mobile
Using NetCounter,
Cell:
~50MB /Month
Wifi:
~1GB /Month
But that's just emails + website browsing on Cell
Most of the Wifi use is Podcasts
3G isn't particularly fast where I am (about 250 Kbps) - takes about 5 minutes to download a 40MB update.zip file. So tend to us Wifi for that sort of thing.
smccaldin said:
To give the UK perspective: G1 on T-Mobile
Using NetCounter,
Cell:
~50MB /Month
Wifi:
~1GB /Month
But that's just emails + website browsing on Cell
Most of the Wifi use is Podcasts
3G isn't particularly fast where I am (about 250 Kbps) - takes about 5 minutes to download a 40MB update.zip file. So tend to us Wifi for that sort of thing.
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That's not fast? I get around 60kbps!
Do you use background data?
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That's not fast? I get around 60kbps!
Do you use background data?
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i get about 800kbps to 1.2mbps on average. But I just took a screen shot of my phone as soon as I got home and I got this :O
This is one of my best ones on 3G that I have had.
I feel bad that some of your data speeds are so slow.
I've had that Rogers 500mb plan for four months and so far I haven't done more than about 300mb. It's mostly just browsing websites and having autosync on. I use Shazam here and there and maybe a handful of youtube videos a month.
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i get about 800kbps to 1.2mbps on average. But I just took a screen shot of my phone as soon as I got home and I got this :O
This is one of my best ones on 3G that I have had.
I feel bad that some of your data speeds are so slow.
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Yeah, well I hate you now
surly someone can tell me how ugly background data's going to be when I get my bill?
Macmee said:
Yeah, well I hate you now
surly someone can tell me how ugly background data's going to be when I get my bill?
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I really wouldn't be too concerned if I were you. I have 16 days left on my billing cycle with Rogers and I've only used 150mb's. That included tethering to 3 laptops for 3 hours. As long as you're not streaming music or downloading torrents on your phone you'll be fine. Especially if you have wifi at home and other places. There are many apps that you can download that will automatically turn on your wifi when your phone is in a known wifi area(setup by you).
I don't do a lot of im'ing, mostly just texting, but I spent a decent amount of time on the interenet on my phone, and everything is set for push/sync.
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Has anyone managed to get the XDA Exec to work with a Three sim card.
Looking to use a three card for e-mail and internet, but not sure if it is possible?
It works fine with the 3 network.
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Did you have to change any settings to get e-mail and internet working?
Obviously you need to add a connection for 3.
You'd also need that internet browsing pack from 3 to beable to surf outside of the crap 3 site / get emails.
Whats this about an internet browsing pack????
Does this mean that they will completely drop the walled garden, let you go anywhere? What are there data charged like?
Nigel
Hi
Answered my own question 512MB data pack add-on is £45/mnth. So not cheap then!! Given 3's superior 3G coverage, they have the capability to cleanup on the geek market. But they'll need to do better than min £65/month (min voice+data add-on) to do this, and they'll need to start flogging some decent hardware also!
They dont offer data packages other than the £45/512MB one. I would hope to see a little competition in the UK as things progress such as we get closer to the flat-rate data that those over the pond enjoy!
http://www.three.co.uk/explore/howmuch/addons/adddetail05.omp?cid=1124817787881
Nigel
TBH I just use my 3 sim for calls (I've got it on 3000 off peak x-net before they pulled it!)
I have a T-Mobile sim on web 'n' walk that I use for data, as I get 40mb included with that.
3's data prices to see abit ott if u ask me, but still.
Three acually do 2 different data packages. They are as follows:
£2.50 for 5MB: This allows visiting to selected websites what have been approved by three. You cannot however, use the phone as a modem for a laptop. Not very practical as its still not full access to the net.
£45 a month for 512MB: This allows you to use 512MB of data each month as a modem. You cannot however access sites on your handset with this, only via a laptop with the phone being used as a modem.
Hope that clears everything up. This isnt very practical TBH, but the XDA exec works fine on three, as its shipped unlocked.
That strange 3 site thing don't like the IE browser on the JASJAR either!
It loads up as aload of code!
The 3 music bit kind of works, and if you try to go anywhere normal on the net it moans about needing a internet bundle!
To be honest my main reason was cheap calls and access to pop3 email retreval on the move,
Will this work with a standard phone tariff from 3 ??
johnwx said:
To be honest my main reason was cheap calls and access to pop3 email retreval on the move,
Will this work with a standard phone tariff from 3 ??
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It will, but to enable you to access anything outside of 3's little "world" they love so much (IE your email) you'd need to purchase a web browsing package from 3.
This is what happens if you try to make use of the 3 connection.
OK I've now got a Three Payg SIM card to try out.
I have 3g coverage as indicated by U symbol.
Anyone know the details on how to set up a connection for Three, no details with the card and cannot find any details elsewhere (Search)
Tks
John
johnwx said:
OK I've now got a Three Payg SIM card to try out.
I have 3g coverage as indicated by U symbol.
Anyone know the details on how to set up a connection for Three, no details with the card and cannot find any details elsewhere (Search)
Tks
John
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Modem: Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G)
Access Point: three.co.uk
Leave username and password blank.
OK, I have my Exec set up fine with the 3UK network. The only problem I have is that with my old 6680, it obviously had a 3 ROM on it that was set to roam back to 3's netowrk when available. On the Exec, I notice that once it roams over to O2's 2.5G netowrk, it doesn't roll back. I've even set the network selection to Manual and told it only to use the 3 netowrk form the list of networks available.
It will roll back fine if I click the FIND NETWORK button in teh phone settings, but just wondered if anyone had managed to get it to stay on 3?
Thanks.
I've just got myself a Vario II as a replacement for my Vario. If I put the sim from my VBVario in, will my internet access automatically be 3G or do I need to ring someone? Is there a way to check?
Cheers.
If its a SIM issued in the last 2-3 years it should be fine. You will see a 'U' (or perhaps '3G' depending on ROM) instead of a G when you are in UMTS (3G) coverage.
You may or may not need to telephone them to get HSDPA turned on. The only way to see if this is working is to do a speed test (search this forum for url's) when in UMTS coverage.
Good tip that!
I have put my lovely T-mobile UK SIM into a new Orange SPV M3100. Speeds were going up to standard 3G level (384 kbps).
I rang T-mobile on 150 and found a human, eventually, and asked for HSPDA service to be enabled on my account which was done straight away. My next speed test got me neary 1 Mbit/s, so I'm happy!
Cool, thanks for the thanks
Hopefully you guys can help me out with this HSDPA related query on t-mobile.
I've just got my MDA VarioII (TyTN) and have taken the web'n'walk package with it for £7.50 per month.
I'm getting the 3G speeds of around 380kbps but started reading threads like this one and thought, crikey, I'll have me some of this HSDPA malarkey!
So I phoned t-mobile and asked them to activate the service on my account and after eventually getting passed to their technical department, I've been told that to get HSDPA you have to have either the web'n'walk plus or max package.
These are either £12.50pm or £22.50pm which is obviously a good bit more.
Can you confirm if yourselves have these packages or if you've been able to get HSDPA enabled on the standard web'n'walk?
Cheers
That's just them talking rubbish. I'm on the £7.50 WnW.
I had to argue for an hour on the phone, which got me nowhere, they were spouting crap about how I had to upgrade my plan. Even tech support was telling me this.
Afterwards I called back and luckily got put through to someone who actually knew what I was talking about. It took a second to have it enabled.
A lot of people have experienced that problem...so you just might as well. It seems we know more about the technology they're employing than the networks themselves...which is absolutely disgusting on T-Mobiles part.
Just remember...you're right, they're wrong.
Also...an easy way of checking is if you're signed up to My T-Mobile...you can check the additional services bit for 'HSDPA 384k Uplink' which should be enabled...after they enable it that is.
athiqueahmed said:
That's just them talking rubbish. I'm on the £7.50 WnW.
I had to argue for an hour on the phone, which got me nowhere, they were spouting crap about how I had to upgrade my plan. Even tech support was telling me this.
Afterwards I called back and luckily got put through to someone who actually knew what I was talking about. It took a second to have it enabled.
A lot of people have experienced that problem...so you just might as well. It seems we know more about the technology they're employing than the networks themselves...which is absolutely disgusting on T-Mobiles part.
Just remember...you're right, they're wrong.
Also...an easy way of checking is if you're signed up to My T-Mobile...you can check the additional services bit for 'HSDPA 384k Uplink' which should be enabled...after they enable it that is.
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Totally correct.. I had the same problem only 4 days after taking out the new WnW account with my Vario 2. After 2 seperate phone calls I still had no luck so I told them the phone would be returned fully boxed as I was in my right as other peeps on the £7.50 WnW package had this enabled. After 4 hours they rang me back saying that it would be enabled as they didnt want to lose me as a new customer..
The moral of this story is...............PERSIST UNTIL THEY GET IT ENABLED...
It does make a lot of difference too..
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Thanks for the info!
Sounds like they're chancing their arm with this.
Apart from citing customers like yourselves are there any other arguments I can put to them in case they start to play hardball?
I've had my contract for a month now so I'm out of the 14 day cooling off period but it seems to me that this could be argued as a treating customers fairly issue...
I prefer to go into these battles with as much ammunition as possible!!
Thanks again
draging up an old thread, how do you see what speed your running at?
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draging up an old thread, how do you see what speed your running at?
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Speed test site, e.g. http://text.dslreports.com/mspeed
cheers
and hmmm, 345kbit/sec, dont look like im using hspda, dam it?
Just got my Vario2, called CS and they said HSDPA is already switched on, tried a speed test with dslreports, speed comes back in the low 300s?!
Also when it's downloading, the 3G sign doesn't change to a U or H (read in a few posts that it's supposed to?)
tmobile, and many other roms, sets it to stay as the 3G icon at all times.
HSDPA speeds are variable, though that is a little low - mine with 2bars reception at midnight just now got 1048kbps
kkhalil76 said:
Just got my Vario2, called CS and they said HSDPA is already switched on, tried a speed test with dslreports, speed comes back in the low 300s?!
Also when it's downloading, the 3G sign doesn't change to a U or H (read in a few posts that it's supposed to?)
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3G is exactly the same as U. Just some ROMS have one, some the other.
In most WM6 ROMS the 3G will change to H when HSDPA is being used.
Other than doing a speedtest you can check whether HSDPA is working by using the fieldtest application.
Thanks for the info. What's fieldtest application & how do I use it? By the way it's a WM5 device, not WM6
Fieldest is the HTC engineer tool which shows advanced network stats (which you have to be a geek to understand, as they're not presented in a user-friendly way at all). It's available from the XDA Wiki.
T-Mobile are being covetous as to who gets HSDPA enabled now - unless you're a business customer it's probably 50/50 as to whether you can get it enabled on first call. I only got it enabled when I got through to a tech engineer as opposed to a regular CSR.
You can use the fit4cat Hermes Tweaker (from fit4cat.de, registration required) to check whether HSDPA is enabled on your phone or not. If it's not enabled you'll have to do the ring-and-pray with TM cust services.
any chance we could get a bit of a guide on how to ge t-mobile to enable it on your line?
I just tried them on 150, they said that it's not available on the flext 25 + wnw prices plan, apparently i'd have to upgrade to flext 35, is this true?
does anyone have it enabled on anything less than flext 25?
thanks, Forlornity
sorry for the triple post, but I've _apparently_ already got HSDPA enabled, but when I run a speed test on dslreports.com, it comes out with my speed being 44kbit/sec every time.
Is this due to something I don't know about?
forlornity said:
I just tried them on 150, they said that it's not available on the flext 25 + wnw prices plan, apparently i'd have to upgrade to flext 35, is this true?
does anyone have it enabled on anything less than flext 25?
thanks, Forlornity
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ill try them sometime in the week, tho im on a pre flex-t tarriff?
Hi,
I was just wondering, since the Htc wildfire has not yer arrived in my country, is it possible for me to purchase an unlocked wildfire and use it without a data plan??
i am able to do so with my blackberry. I can make calls and even access the mobile internet on my blackberry without a data plan.
So, is it possible to do the same with a wildfire, even when rooted and on a custom rom??
Please help...!
Yes when you set it up it asks u if u want mobile network and WiFi or WiFi only
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brilldoctor said:
Yes when you set it up it asks u if u want mobile network and WiFi or WiFi only
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Thank you for replying..
So all i need to do is to choose the wifi only??
Isn't it possible to use a browser (like opera mini as i do on the blackberry) to bypass the mobile network restrictions?? Because in the blackberry, since i cannot use the phone's browser, i use opera mini to bypass the mobile network restrictions and i'm able to browse using the mobile network..
Kindly reply..
Someone do correct me if I'm wrong...
The only devices sold here with data plan are iPhone and BlackBerries. Others can be bought with/without contract which may or may not require additional data plan. You can use the phone with WiFi only option in which case you can browse and use applications which require network access free of charge. You can use the cell phone without data plan as well but it usually costs a fortune (at least here) to do so. You can turn on network connection and if your device if configured properly you'll be able to do everything you want. It would be the best to get at least the cheapest data plan if you're planning on using any features which require internet access.
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Thank you for replying..
So all i need to do is to choose the wifi only??
Isn't it possible to use a browser (like opera mini as i do on the blackberry) to bypass the mobile network restrictions?? Because in the blackberry, since i cannot use the phone's browser, i use opera mini to bypass the mobile network restrictions and i'm able to browse using the mobile network..
Kindly reply..
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No opera mini only works with mobile network on. anyway here is a screendshot of the setup page.
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Someone do correct me if I'm wrong...
The only devices sold here with data plan are iPhone and BlackBerries. Others can be bought with/without contract which may or may not require additional data plan. You can use the phone with WiFi only option in which case you can browse and use applications which require network access free of charge. You can use the cell phone without data plan as well but it usually costs a fortune (at least here) to do so. You can turn on network connection and if your device if configured properly you'll be able to do everything you want. It would be the best to get at least the cheapest data plan if you're planning on using any features which require internet access.
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Ahh, i see now. So that means i can still use the mobile network if i have the specific settings t connect to the network's internet, even without a data plan...? IF so, then that is very good news for me...
Starges said:
Ahh, i see now. So that means i can still use the mobile network if i have the specific settings t connect to the network's internet, even without a data plan...? IF so, then that is very good news for me...
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you can but you will be charged (in the uk its £3 per MB). if you go down this or the data plan option, i would advise getting 3g watchdog due the the fact that the wildfire has 3g and can use the network to get more data than a 2g blackberry (most of them are 2g) in the space of 5 mins. the wildfire also has 2g (and you can get a data plan for the wildfire - i have one)
Yes, you can connect to the internet without data plan if your network settings are set correctly. However, I strongly advise you NOT to do it unless you have a data plan or are connecting through wi-fi at home/work. As brilldoctor said, it's the most expensive option and the data transfer is charged per 100 kB here (as far as I know). Do set your phone not to do automatic/background sync/update if you don't have a data plan. I used my phone for a week with wi-fi only option. So, I used it normally for phone calls/texting while away and it would automatically connect to my network and sync/update data when I got home. I also recommend you to get 3G Watchdog or Stats to monitor your usage. Do set a limit so you don't over do it.
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Someone do correct me if I'm wrong...
The only devices sold here with data plan are iPhone and BlackBerries. Others can be bought with/without contract which may or may not require additional data plan.
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Well its still possible to buy an iPhone or blackberry without a data plan though the people there might discourage you from doing so.
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Well its still possible to buy an iPhone or blackberry without a data plan though the people there might discourage you from doing so.
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Most certainly it is possible. You can buy both unlocked and use it on your deisired mobile operator. BlackBerries aren't usually used that way, but iPhone is. Many people get burned with Androids/iPhone due to fact they are net oriented and do some tasks in the background. They get them without data plan, check a few things out and think how cool it is and then they get a bill.
If you do go down the data plan route watch out for nasty fair usage policies (hint: 3g watchdog and apndroid)
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I sometimes use wired and WIFI tethering from my focus when my internet goes out. Well today I got an email stating that I have to change my unlimited data plan to a tethering plan with 4gb of data if I want to continue tethering. If I continue without changing the plan it states they will change it without my consent. Now none of this crap makes sense, I have an unlimited plan so I should be able to chose what I want to use it for. I was wondering is there a way for ATT not to know I'm tethering from my phone?
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I sometimes use wired and WIFI tethering from my focus when my internet goes out. Well today I got an email stating that I have to change my unlimited data plan to a tethering plan with 4gb of data if I want to continue tethering. If I continue without changing the plan it states they will change it without my consent. Now none of this crap makes sense, I have an unlimited plan so I should be able to chose what I want to use it for. I was wondering is there a way for ATT not to know I'm tethering from my phone?
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Oh and here's how much data I used last month 804.27 MB.
I just got this email too, as well as a text saying i'm in the top 5% of data users and they'll start throttling my speed for the rest of the month whenever I get to 5%. Yes I do tether, and I don't really want to stop. If there was an option to add just a tethering feature to my account I would consider it, but the only option is to downgrade from my unlimited data plan to a 4GB plan that would allow tethering. Pretty damn lame.
Does anyone know how they know you're tethering? I've used wired tethering since I got my Focus in January and never had an issue. I tried the wifi hotspot option for maybe half an hour, which was a couple weeks ago when that hack first became available. I know the iPhone users who were using wifi hotspot app were getting caught a couple months ago. I'm just trying to figure out if it makes any difference if I use it wired or hotspot? Is wired safer or can they just tell either way? It's also speculated they check browser user agent strings, which could be spoofed though. So is there any way to get around this and continue tethering?
I am going through the same thing on my captivate with GB rom on it. The problem (based on the research i have been able to do) is that the phone uses a different APN to connect to Att's network when tethering. I am trying to find a hack or a mod that would use the same APN as the phone... but I am having no luck.
mrnice225 said:
I am going through the same thing on my captivate with GB rom on it. The problem (based on the research i have been able to do) is that the phone uses a different APN to connect to Att's network when tethering. I am trying to find a hack or a mod that would use the same APN as the phone... but I am having no luck.
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iPhone users that were using the MyWi app were getting the same message about tethering. The developers of MyWi said this on twitter:
"MyWi has always used the primary APN (the same as Safari/Mail/etc). All data is on one connection."
So it must be more than the APN.
clfosk said:
I just got this email too, as well as a text saying i'm in the top 5% of data users and they'll start throttling my speed for the rest of the month whenever I get to 5%. Yes I do tether, and I don't really want to stop. If there was an option to add just a tethering feature to my account I would consider it, but the only option is to downgrade from my unlimited data plan to a 4GB plan that would allow tethering. Pretty damn lame.
Does anyone know how they know you're tethering? I've used wired tethering since I got my Focus in January and never had an issue. I tried the wifi hotspot option for maybe half an hour, which was a couple weeks ago when that hack first became available. I know the iPhone users who were using wifi hotspot app were getting caught a couple months ago. I'm just trying to figure out if it makes any difference if I use it wired or hotspot? Is wired safer or can they just tell either way? It's also speculated they check browser user agent strings, which could be spoofed though. So is there any way to get around this and continue tethering?
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How much data are you using? I'm using around 3-4GB's a month and have not received an email yet.
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How much data are you using? I'm using around 3-4GB's a month and have not received an email yet.
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just wait and u might since I barely use a gig and I got it :/
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How much data are you using? I'm using around 3-4GB's a month and have not received an email yet.
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And I'm currently over 10gb for the current billing cycle which ends in a few days.
AT&T can tell if you're tethering by analyzing packet data. Mobile devices and desktop/laptop computers can be easily distingueshed.
I got the ssame message today and i used only 200mb from my unkimited data plan on my focus this month so far, and in avergae below 2gb monthly. Funny part, no where in their agreement they mention that they will sniff your data packets, which they seem to do lately. There is no other way for them to know what are you doing with your phone, the internet sharing uses exactly the same APN on these phones. I replied to the message with a pure "F..CK OFF" and guess what, you get right away a reply saying that I opted out of their marketing text messaging. All they do at this time, unless you use gigs of data they just send advertisment spam text to all smartphone users to get them on tethering plans, they don't have any real proof of anything at this time if you do or not tethering. You can call them and they will tell you the same thing. I just did that too.
I did the same thing, I kept demanding to see the evidence against me and she said it belongs to ATT lol. SO back to the original question. Has anyone found a way to make them not know we're tethering?
You should read this, and also understand that if they start doing packet analysis, they will find out you're tethering pretty easily.
You can test this easily by capturing all packets from a shared wireless adapter (for example with Connectify) yourselves.
Also, from what I read in AT&Ts Wireless Customer agreement, they can do whatever they want: "We may change any terms, conditions, rates, fees, expenses, or charges regarding your Services at any time". Also, the Acceptable Use Policy says: "However, AT&T may monitor content of any such materials as necessary to comply with applicable laws, regulations or other governmental or judicial requests; or to protect the AT&T network and its customers.".
Btw, I don't live in US and the above was pretty easy to find; it proves that people don't read their contracts. Calling them and asking for proof might work if they "guessed" now, but next time be sure they'll have something.
I'm done with ATT, I received the text message saying that they detected tethering and they automatically switched my unlimited data plan to the new $50/5GB with tethering. I switched yesterday to straight talk, and my Samsung Focus works exactly as before, now for only $45/month, unlimited everything.
dendron said:
I'm done with ATT, I received the text message saying that they detected tethering and they automatically switched my unlimited data plan to the new $50/5GB with tethering. I switched yesterday to straight talk, and my Samsung Focus works exactly as before, now for only $45/month, unlimited everything.
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Your Focus works with Straight Talk?
Fiberop said:
Your Focus works with Straight Talk?
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yes, just add the apn: att.mvno, get the 45 dollars unlimited prepaid and you're good to go, it's time to show att the finger.
www.straighttalksim.com
dendron said:
yes, just add the apn: att.mvno, get the 45 dollars unlimited prepaid and you're good to go, it's time to show att the finger.
www.straighttalksim.com
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Thanks I appreciate the information. That might be an option when my contract is up this year.
dendron said:
I'm done with ATT, I received the text message saying that they detected tethering and they automatically switched my unlimited data plan to the new $50/5GB with tethering. I switched yesterday to straight talk, and my Samsung Focus works exactly as before, now for only $45/month, unlimited everything.
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how much data do you use a month
I myself am concedering straight talk, but i need to know if tethering will boot me off straigt talk, thanks
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AT&T can tell if you're tethering by analyzing packet data. Mobile devices and desktop/laptop computers can be easily distingueshed.
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I only tethered with my Android Tablet and I got the notice. I don't think that's what they're doing.
First, a little bit about me that lead to how I came across this...
I work in the electronics department of a retail store, and when the days get slow I like to tether my G2 to the wifi enabled tv's and watch netflix with coworkers. I do this on almost a daily basis and burns through A LOT of data.
Of course after a few days I get the text message from T-Mobile after I get through my 5GB of (fake) unlimited data and will be slowed for the remainder of this billing cycle... This normally results in my downstream speeds going to a trickle of 7kb/s as apposed to my uncapped speeds of anywhere from 300kb/s to 1400kb/s.
So I have another job that I work on the days off sometimes and it's running deliveries. I use the navigation app to get to where ever it may be for work and sometimes my GPS doesn't like to locate me right away. When this happens at work, I start to panic (I don't know my way around town for sh*t) and try every solution on hand I can think of. I tried fixing permissions then network operator selections and eventually the GPS will locate me function just fine.
So I have never hit my cap while working my part time job doing deliveries, and have never really used the navigation app until I started working there and this is how I came across this uncapping of my data while trying to fix my gps, I went into wireless & network settings, then mobile networks, and select network operators, it does some searching for a bit then gives me the option for AT&T or T-Mobile, (I always just do select automatically) and after doing this, my data speeds return to normal... like I am still getting downloads at 600kb/s+.
According to the T-mobile "my account" app, I am at 7.26GB for this month.
(I will upload screens in a second for the naysayers)
Something about this network operator selection thing has the ability to unthrottle me everytime I go over my data. Not sure what actually happens behind the screens when I do this method but just thought I'd share in hopes that it may provide some help to others in a possible loop hole to the (fake) unlimited data issue a lot of us run into.
P.S. Noticed that the speedtest app always thinks I'm in Dallas TX every time I do the network operator unthrottle thing, when I actually live in the Chicago IL area.
Wow, this seems like a great find. finally we can maintain full speed over the month. Gonna definitely give this a try once my speed gets throttled. Thanks!
Just for safe measures before people start saying it's not working, I'd like to just make it known that I am currently running on CyanogenMod-7.1.0-RC1-vision and using 2.6.35.13-UmaroV1.06+ kernel. Radio-26.03.02.26_M. Dunno if that affects anything in this department lol.
Also one thing I've noticed and forgot to mention...If I connect to a wifi network, once I have disconnected from it, my speeds are throttled again but doing the operator selection unthrottles it. This is the only thing I've noticed that reactivates the throttle but is still fixed in a matter of minutes.
Ill test this once I finish download battlefield 3 though I dont think Ill hit 5gb once done. Probably need another 1GB or so.
BTW to save data from navigating, you can enable a feature in Google Maps 'labs' to allow caching map data. After enabling it, long press on a location and tell it to cache, it'll then download a 10 square mile radius of that point and save it to your SDcard (you can cache multiple areas). Then it won't cost you data next time you load that map
Anyways, interesting find! I wonder if its because it kinda... re-registers your phone on the network, and you get a new address / spot on the network? Idk... I've only hit my 5gb once and I wasn't capped so I can't really check this often.
My guess is that Tmobile servers learned your usage statistic including your location, amount of data consumed, most connected APNs nearby and usage schedule. They then use those factors to throttle/filter the APN you are connected to the most. But once you "refresh" the apn list or the cache on your phone by searching for network operators, your phone is no longer "blacklisted"
But that is just my theory.
@martonikaj
OMG that will be sooo incredibly useful. Thank you!!!
EDIT: Here's screens to show that it's no bs
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Wow, now im really hoping thisll work. EA and their stupid Origin errored out again. Lost a gig of data.
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@martonikaj
OMG that will be sooo incredibly useful. Thank you!!!
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yep. I use map caching a lot when I'm going to be driving to/through like a rural area or a state park or something and I want a map, but won't have 3G (or even EDGE).
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How did you get the My Account app working? This is what mine looks like
And when I press Menu > About it says Unsupported Device
I just downloaded it from the market. You're on tmobile right?
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I just downloaded it from the market. You're on tmobile right?
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Yes, I'm on T-Mobile. But I'm on CM7 like you are, and CM7 already includes the app. Is downloading it from the market the only way to get it to work?
I just downloaded it from market. Don't think it was there when I installed CM7.
Yeah, we known about this for a while. Same thing happens when you switch apns (wap.voicestream.com for example). It just changes your ip on the network and will last for several hours or until you reboot. Its temporary but works good enough. Too bad my old one doesn't work anymore. Its all controlled server side now.
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Yes, I'm on T-Mobile. But I'm on CM7 like you are, and CM7 already includes the app. Is downloading it from the market the only way to get it to work?
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In the build.prop in /system, with any text editor, you just need to change this:
ro.product.model=HTC Vision
ro.product.brand=vision (or whatever it says here)
to this:
ro.product.model=T-Mobile G2
ro.product.brand=tmobile
That's it. Reboot and it'll work just fine. I change it every time I update ROMs on CM.
The way I understood this: Once Throttled simply navigate to network operator settings and select your standard operator or reset your apn settings and you will at least for a certain limited time have unthrottled data?
At least as far as Berlin, Germany, network operator O2 goes: I cannot confirm that this actually works. (HTC Desire Z, latest Bulletproof MIUI rom).
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In the build.prop in /system, with any text editor, you just need to change this:
ro.product.model=HTC Vision
ro.product.brand=vision (or whatever it says here)
to this:
ro.product.model=T-Mobile G2
ro.product.brand=tmobile
That's it. Reboot and it'll work just fine. I change it every time I update ROMs on CM.
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Mine works on CM7 without editing build.prop about 90% of the time. Kinda weird people seem to have different results.
thomas_wlc said:
The way I understood this: Once Throttled simply navigate to network operator settings and select your standard operator or reset your apn settings and you will at least for a certain limited time have unthrottled data?
At least as far as Berlin, Germany, network operator O2 goes: I cannot confirm that this actually works. (HTC Desire Z, latest Bulletproof MIUI rom).
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That's what I've been doing and it works great. Might just be a loop in the T-Mobile networks but I thought I'd share in case it wasn't brought to anyone's attention
Just to be sure I went for the latest nightly and tried again.
Made sure that I got new ip's. But still nothing. I guess that o2 germany simply handles throttling differently.
Thanks for sharing though, would've been nice if it worked.
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This didnt work for me. Im using MIUI Bulletproof ROM.
Although, right around the same time this thread was made, I went over the cap and still had full data speeds. It lasted 4-5 days I think.
I hit around 6.5 GB before I was finally throttled and that was around the end of Oct/beginning of Nov.