I've just got myself a Vario II as a replacement for my Vario. If I put the sim from my VBVario in, will my internet access automatically be 3G or do I need to ring someone? Is there a way to check?
Cheers.
If its a SIM issued in the last 2-3 years it should be fine. You will see a 'U' (or perhaps '3G' depending on ROM) instead of a G when you are in UMTS (3G) coverage.
You may or may not need to telephone them to get HSDPA turned on. The only way to see if this is working is to do a speed test (search this forum for url's) when in UMTS coverage.
Good tip that!
I have put my lovely T-mobile UK SIM into a new Orange SPV M3100. Speeds were going up to standard 3G level (384 kbps).
I rang T-mobile on 150 and found a human, eventually, and asked for HSPDA service to be enabled on my account which was done straight away. My next speed test got me neary 1 Mbit/s, so I'm happy!
Cool, thanks for the thanks
Hopefully you guys can help me out with this HSDPA related query on t-mobile.
I've just got my MDA VarioII (TyTN) and have taken the web'n'walk package with it for £7.50 per month.
I'm getting the 3G speeds of around 380kbps but started reading threads like this one and thought, crikey, I'll have me some of this HSDPA malarkey!
So I phoned t-mobile and asked them to activate the service on my account and after eventually getting passed to their technical department, I've been told that to get HSDPA you have to have either the web'n'walk plus or max package.
These are either £12.50pm or £22.50pm which is obviously a good bit more.
Can you confirm if yourselves have these packages or if you've been able to get HSDPA enabled on the standard web'n'walk?
Cheers
That's just them talking rubbish. I'm on the £7.50 WnW.
I had to argue for an hour on the phone, which got me nowhere, they were spouting crap about how I had to upgrade my plan. Even tech support was telling me this.
Afterwards I called back and luckily got put through to someone who actually knew what I was talking about. It took a second to have it enabled.
A lot of people have experienced that problem...so you just might as well. It seems we know more about the technology they're employing than the networks themselves...which is absolutely disgusting on T-Mobiles part.
Just remember...you're right, they're wrong.
Also...an easy way of checking is if you're signed up to My T-Mobile...you can check the additional services bit for 'HSDPA 384k Uplink' which should be enabled...after they enable it that is.
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That's just them talking rubbish. I'm on the £7.50 WnW.
I had to argue for an hour on the phone, which got me nowhere, they were spouting crap about how I had to upgrade my plan. Even tech support was telling me this.
Afterwards I called back and luckily got put through to someone who actually knew what I was talking about. It took a second to have it enabled.
A lot of people have experienced that problem...so you just might as well. It seems we know more about the technology they're employing than the networks themselves...which is absolutely disgusting on T-Mobiles part.
Just remember...you're right, they're wrong.
Also...an easy way of checking is if you're signed up to My T-Mobile...you can check the additional services bit for 'HSDPA 384k Uplink' which should be enabled...after they enable it that is.
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Totally correct.. I had the same problem only 4 days after taking out the new WnW account with my Vario 2. After 2 seperate phone calls I still had no luck so I told them the phone would be returned fully boxed as I was in my right as other peeps on the £7.50 WnW package had this enabled. After 4 hours they rang me back saying that it would be enabled as they didnt want to lose me as a new customer..
The moral of this story is...............PERSIST UNTIL THEY GET IT ENABLED...
It does make a lot of difference too..
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Thanks for the info!
Sounds like they're chancing their arm with this.
Apart from citing customers like yourselves are there any other arguments I can put to them in case they start to play hardball?
I've had my contract for a month now so I'm out of the 14 day cooling off period but it seems to me that this could be argued as a treating customers fairly issue...
I prefer to go into these battles with as much ammunition as possible!!
Thanks again
draging up an old thread, how do you see what speed your running at?
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draging up an old thread, how do you see what speed your running at?
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Speed test site, e.g. http://text.dslreports.com/mspeed
cheers
and hmmm, 345kbit/sec, dont look like im using hspda, dam it?
Just got my Vario2, called CS and they said HSDPA is already switched on, tried a speed test with dslreports, speed comes back in the low 300s?!
Also when it's downloading, the 3G sign doesn't change to a U or H (read in a few posts that it's supposed to?)
tmobile, and many other roms, sets it to stay as the 3G icon at all times.
HSDPA speeds are variable, though that is a little low - mine with 2bars reception at midnight just now got 1048kbps
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Just got my Vario2, called CS and they said HSDPA is already switched on, tried a speed test with dslreports, speed comes back in the low 300s?!
Also when it's downloading, the 3G sign doesn't change to a U or H (read in a few posts that it's supposed to?)
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3G is exactly the same as U. Just some ROMS have one, some the other.
In most WM6 ROMS the 3G will change to H when HSDPA is being used.
Other than doing a speedtest you can check whether HSDPA is working by using the fieldtest application.
Thanks for the info. What's fieldtest application & how do I use it? By the way it's a WM5 device, not WM6
Fieldest is the HTC engineer tool which shows advanced network stats (which you have to be a geek to understand, as they're not presented in a user-friendly way at all). It's available from the XDA Wiki.
T-Mobile are being covetous as to who gets HSDPA enabled now - unless you're a business customer it's probably 50/50 as to whether you can get it enabled on first call. I only got it enabled when I got through to a tech engineer as opposed to a regular CSR.
You can use the fit4cat Hermes Tweaker (from fit4cat.de, registration required) to check whether HSDPA is enabled on your phone or not. If it's not enabled you'll have to do the ring-and-pray with TM cust services.
any chance we could get a bit of a guide on how to ge t-mobile to enable it on your line?
I just tried them on 150, they said that it's not available on the flext 25 + wnw prices plan, apparently i'd have to upgrade to flext 35, is this true?
does anyone have it enabled on anything less than flext 25?
thanks, Forlornity
sorry for the triple post, but I've _apparently_ already got HSDPA enabled, but when I run a speed test on dslreports.com, it comes out with my speed being 44kbit/sec every time.
Is this due to something I don't know about?
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I just tried them on 150, they said that it's not available on the flext 25 + wnw prices plan, apparently i'd have to upgrade to flext 35, is this true?
does anyone have it enabled on anything less than flext 25?
thanks, Forlornity
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ill try them sometime in the week, tho im on a pre flex-t tarriff?
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Has anyone managed to get the XDA Exec to work with a Three sim card.
Looking to use a three card for e-mail and internet, but not sure if it is possible?
It works fine with the 3 network.
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Did you have to change any settings to get e-mail and internet working?
Obviously you need to add a connection for 3.
You'd also need that internet browsing pack from 3 to beable to surf outside of the crap 3 site / get emails.
Whats this about an internet browsing pack????
Does this mean that they will completely drop the walled garden, let you go anywhere? What are there data charged like?
Nigel
Hi
Answered my own question 512MB data pack add-on is £45/mnth. So not cheap then!! Given 3's superior 3G coverage, they have the capability to cleanup on the geek market. But they'll need to do better than min £65/month (min voice+data add-on) to do this, and they'll need to start flogging some decent hardware also!
They dont offer data packages other than the £45/512MB one. I would hope to see a little competition in the UK as things progress such as we get closer to the flat-rate data that those over the pond enjoy!
http://www.three.co.uk/explore/howmuch/addons/adddetail05.omp?cid=1124817787881
Nigel
TBH I just use my 3 sim for calls (I've got it on 3000 off peak x-net before they pulled it!)
I have a T-Mobile sim on web 'n' walk that I use for data, as I get 40mb included with that.
3's data prices to see abit ott if u ask me, but still.
Three acually do 2 different data packages. They are as follows:
£2.50 for 5MB: This allows visiting to selected websites what have been approved by three. You cannot however, use the phone as a modem for a laptop. Not very practical as its still not full access to the net.
£45 a month for 512MB: This allows you to use 512MB of data each month as a modem. You cannot however access sites on your handset with this, only via a laptop with the phone being used as a modem.
Hope that clears everything up. This isnt very practical TBH, but the XDA exec works fine on three, as its shipped unlocked.
That strange 3 site thing don't like the IE browser on the JASJAR either!
It loads up as aload of code!
The 3 music bit kind of works, and if you try to go anywhere normal on the net it moans about needing a internet bundle!
To be honest my main reason was cheap calls and access to pop3 email retreval on the move,
Will this work with a standard phone tariff from 3 ??
johnwx said:
To be honest my main reason was cheap calls and access to pop3 email retreval on the move,
Will this work with a standard phone tariff from 3 ??
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It will, but to enable you to access anything outside of 3's little "world" they love so much (IE your email) you'd need to purchase a web browsing package from 3.
This is what happens if you try to make use of the 3 connection.
OK I've now got a Three Payg SIM card to try out.
I have 3g coverage as indicated by U symbol.
Anyone know the details on how to set up a connection for Three, no details with the card and cannot find any details elsewhere (Search)
Tks
John
johnwx said:
OK I've now got a Three Payg SIM card to try out.
I have 3g coverage as indicated by U symbol.
Anyone know the details on how to set up a connection for Three, no details with the card and cannot find any details elsewhere (Search)
Tks
John
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Modem: Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G)
Access Point: three.co.uk
Leave username and password blank.
OK, I have my Exec set up fine with the 3UK network. The only problem I have is that with my old 6680, it obviously had a 3 ROM on it that was set to roam back to 3's netowrk when available. On the Exec, I notice that once it roams over to O2's 2.5G netowrk, it doesn't roll back. I've even set the network selection to Manual and told it only to use the 3 netowrk form the list of networks available.
It will roll back fine if I click the FIND NETWORK button in teh phone settings, but just wondered if anyone had managed to get it to stay on 3?
Thanks.
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Here's the low-down..
With Sprint AIRAVE™, a winner of the 2008 PC World 25 Most Innovative Products Award, you'll enjoy enhanced wireless service in your home or office — even if there is no coverage. It's like having your own miniature cell tower with a coverage radius of up to 5,000 square feet.
Exclusive to Sprint, AIRAVE will be available for purchase at your nearest Sprint Store on 8/17.
Key Features
Works with any Sprint phone — up to three users at the same time.¹
Installs in minutes with your existing broadband Internet access, such as DSL, cable or T1.
Unlimited incoming and outgoing calls, including nationwide long distance, when using your Sprint phone and initiating your call on the device (requires an AIRAVE unlimited calling plan).**
Automatically transfers calls to the Sprint Nationwide Network once you leave your home or office.²
Limit access to your AIRAVE by creating a list of up to 50 approved Sprint phone numbers.
What You'll Need
Active Sprint phone(s)
Sprint voice plan
Broadband Internet access, such as DSL, cable or T1.
Available Ethernet port — either on your modem or via a router — to connect AIRAVE to your broadband data service.
Available power outlet
Pricing
Sprint AIRAVE Base Station - $99.99/each (requires activation at time of purchase and subscription to an AIRAVE plan. Excludes taxes.)
AIRAVE Enhanced Coverage Charge - $4.99/mo. (required per AIRAVE unit)**
Single Line Unlimited Calling Plan (optional) - $10/mo.**
Multi-Line Unlimited Calling Plan (optional) - $20/mo. per account**
¹Does not work with plans or services operating only on the Nextel Nationwide Network.
²Calls transfer dependent upon sufficient signal from the Sprint Network beyond the range of the AIRAVE Base Station.
Here's the link, what do you all think..?
Let me know, I'd jump on it but just cuz I work for SPRINT don't mean ima jump on everything they sell..
http://www.nextel.com/en/services/airave/index.shtml?id9=vanity:AIRAVE
I think you are spamming....
[Mod Edit: GODZSON has earned some trust with all the skinning he's done on XDA, and eventually this thread proves it was not of commercial intent]
Sounds like UMA... and you spelled wireless wrong
Spam..? LOL
sino8r said:
I think you are spamming....
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LOL .. nah, just cuz I work for Sprint doesnt mean I'll be expecting a nice check to pay me for advertising.. I cud use a couple MIL$$ or 2 MIL$$ to take a nice long vacation and or retire.. feel me. If I wuz getn paid I' cud take payment options it would be 7 c-notes a month and live just fine... Like Dave Chapelle would say "I'M RICH B*TCH!"
P.S. Just showing new coming tech for SPRINT to look forward to.. You have T-Mobile logo on your Sig so that would mean your spamming too right..?
any how, this is a friendly post to those that might answer back with critics on the AIRAVE.
As I stated, I do work for SPRINT and appreciate the nice benefits at work and discounts but I don't get paid to advertise, just wuna know what others may think that are outside the box.. Thanks
wshader said:
Sounds like UMA... and you spelled wireless wrong
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For those that don't know what UMA is... and Yea I work for a Wireless Carrier and spelled Wireless wrong.. lol
UMA Overview
Unlicensed Mobile Access (UMA) technology provides access to GSM and GPRS mobile services over unlicensed spectrum technologies, including Bluetooth and 802.11. By deploying UMA technology, service providers can enable subscribers to roam and handover between cellular networks and public and private unlicensed wireless networks using dual-mode mobile handsets. With UMA, subscribers receive a consistent user experience for their mobile voice and data services as they transition between networks.
In order to promote the widespread adoption of UMA technology, a number of leading companies within the wireless industry have jointly developed a set of open specifications. These specifications are available through this Web site, and may be used by vendors and carriers of wireless communications systems and applications to develop and deploy interoperable solutions.
In addition to developing and maintaining the initial specifications, the participating companies are actively working with the 3GPP standards organization to use the specifications as the basis for the development of a formal standard.
How UMA Technology Works
1.A mobile subscriber with a UMA-enabled, dual-mode handset moves within range of an unlicensed wireless network to which the handset is allowed to connect
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2.Upon connecting, the handset contacts the UMA Network Controller (UNC) over the broadband IP access network to be authenticated and authorized to access GSM voice and GPRS data services via the unlicensed wireless network.
3.If approved, the subscriber’s current location information stored in the core network is updated, and from that point on all mobile voice and data traffic is routed to the handset via the Unlicensed Mobile Access Network (UMAN) rather than the cellular radio access network (RAN).
4.ROAMING: When a UMA-enabled subscriber moves outside the range of an unlicensed wireless network to which they are connected, the UNC and handset facilitate roaming back to the licensed outdoor network. This roaming process is completely transparent to the subscriber.
5.HANDOVER: If a subscriber is on an active GSM voice call or GPRS data session when they come within range (or out of range) of an unlicensed wireless network, that voice call or data session can automatically handover between access networks with no discernable service interruption. Handovers are completely transparent to the subscriber.
Believe it or not I don't think your spamming!! I think this is good information to know. Developing and Hacking is the wrong place for it not matter what the excuse... But it is great information. I wish more carriers had this kind of technology.
Doesn't work right with WM phones. Causes the phone to periodically wake up and hurts the battery life. I've had one for about 8 months and stopped using it after 1 month.
nonegiven said:
Doesn't work right with WM phones. Causes the phone to periodically wake up and hurts the battery life. I've had one for about 8 months and stopped using it after 1 month.
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really, wow, i really was looking forward to this until you mention this. is it a known issue that might someday be fixed?
nonegiven said:
Doesn't work right with WM phones. Causes the phone to periodically wake up and hurts the battery life. I've had one for about 8 months and stopped using it after 1 month.
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I don't know what might cause this, but it might be on your phone and not with the unit itself. I hope you tried a different rom/radio combination before giving up.
met3ora said:
I don't know what might cause this, but it might be on your phone and not with the unit itself. I hope you tried a different rom/radio combination before giving up.
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I've tried multiple ROMs on various models of WM phones. My reception is decent without the unit, I just got it because it was free.
nonegiven said:
Doesn't work right with WM phones. Causes the phone to periodically wake up and hurts the battery life. I've had one for about 8 months and stopped using it after 1 month.
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Hmm, who's ur provider? The Airave has been testedto work with all SPRINT phones including WM phones.
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Hmm, who's ur provider? The Airave has been testedto work with all SPRINT phones including WM phones.
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Obviously Sprint. Technically, the Airave works with WM phones as long as you don't mind them waking up constantly.
Well if it's not spam it's Networking
I think GODZSON just wants an honoust discussion about this.
Nonegiven airave works with and Sprint device and would not wake your WM device, but other software you have loaded might. Where did you get yours, you say you have had it for 8 months? And aad4321 yes T-Mobile has a similar product but its device specific.
halfdriven said:
Nonegiven airave works with and Sprint device and would not wake your WM device, but other software you have loaded might. Where did you get yours, you say you have had it for 8 months? And aad4321 yes T-Mobile has a similar product but its device specific.
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You have no idea what you're talking about. I got mine in October of last year and have used it with various WM phones with custom ROMs and freshly-installed stock ROMs.
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You have no idea what you're talking about.
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Really, I will P.M. you my cell # and we can compare notes
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Really, I will P.M. you my cell # and we can compare notes
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Go for it. Every single WM device had the same problem which never bothered the Palm 755p that I also tested with it.
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Go for it. Every single WM device had the same problem which never bothered the Palm 755p that I also tested with it.
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I'm getting a LOT better battery life on my Q9c using the Airave. Before, I was 0-1 bars of service.
The only "wakeup" I've seen is switching from EVDO to 1X and back, but my phone did that before.
Still haven't heard from halfdriven.
Well since I'm stuck getting this from a Canadian carrier I get screwed over when it comes to transfer. I'm eyeing the 500mb plan, but I'm not sure what I should get. I would use the device for internet most days, sometimes for MSN, and I would be wanting background data with gmail sync on.
So I'm curious as to what you folks use, if you wouldn't mind, I would love to hear what you use your phone for, and how much data you consume monthy.
Cheers, Dave
last month i used 1.2 GB of data.
I average between 750MB to 2 gigs of data a month.
I go on youtube. Browse the web. Have a lot of apps that use the web. Shazam. ProjectINF and cestos use a lot of data. FML. Maps with navigation. Twidroid. On a rare occasion I tether my phone but have not done so for months.
I have unlimited data, but I probably use only under 200MB a month. If T-Mo would extend 3G out to my home I would use data more, but now I'm stuck using wifi most of the time :/
usage
i use about 9GB a month, but i tether a lot(i don't have internet access without it) and i play games like cestos. i have performed a test where gmail uses about 1GB in a month to check my mail, but then again i get about 10 emails a day and i respond to most of them. you could always turn off autosync and that would cut back on your usage.
tubaking182 said:
i use about 9GB a month, but i tether a lot(i don't have internet access without it) and i play games like cestos. i have performed a test where gmail uses about 1GB in a month to check my mail, but then again i get about 10 emails a day and i respond to most of them. you could always turn off autosync and that would cut back on your usage.
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T-Mobile's cap is 10 Gigs a month, right?
yeah, one time they seant me a text message telling me i was over the cap and the claimed to drop my bandwdth, but since i was already on EDGE i didn't noctice a difference.
you're on edge? That's a bummer. Where do you live?
i'm in st. louis MO, i have 3G now but it only arrived two to three months ago so i didn't have it when i went over.
Actually iirc there's no cap on edge, just 3g. Tho I've got the same text msg, i think it's just computer sent after you hit 10gigs. I'm in the same boat as tubaking182. Edge (and gprs :'( @ times) tethering is all I have out here in the boon docks and my bandwidth is all over the place so who knows.
hmm Seems I'm only up to 70mb or so tonight.. slow night lol
edit: the same boat tubaking182 used to be. atm I'm in middle of moontaana.. think they're expected to get 3g in 2054 or so..:/
What would be the best program to use to mesure the usage? Something that would split edge/3g from wifi, by program/process would be cool so I could see sync useage alone.
I've always liked NetCounter. Tho it doesn't measure individual apps usage. NetMeter claims to but I have yet to put it to a real world test.
Thanks, I'll get both and see. NetCounter said 25mb today after I installed it, I don't know how it came up with that though off the bat, and 8mb on wifi (downloading those two programs + some email).
So the min I would use a month if that data was correct is 300mb/mo no tethering though, just normal use (gmail, twitdroid, FB).
Maybe 20GB/month? My carrier has no limit or throttling on 3G usage.
Running tally for Nov...
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ah, I'm with Bell and have a 500mb maximum, so I guess no background data for me
From the UK
To give the UK perspective: G1 on T-Mobile
Using NetCounter,
Cell:
~50MB /Month
Wifi:
~1GB /Month
But that's just emails + website browsing on Cell
Most of the Wifi use is Podcasts
3G isn't particularly fast where I am (about 250 Kbps) - takes about 5 minutes to download a 40MB update.zip file. So tend to us Wifi for that sort of thing.
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To give the UK perspective: G1 on T-Mobile
Using NetCounter,
Cell:
~50MB /Month
Wifi:
~1GB /Month
But that's just emails + website browsing on Cell
Most of the Wifi use is Podcasts
3G isn't particularly fast where I am (about 250 Kbps) - takes about 5 minutes to download a 40MB update.zip file. So tend to us Wifi for that sort of thing.
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That's not fast? I get around 60kbps!
Do you use background data?
Macmee said:
That's not fast? I get around 60kbps!
Do you use background data?
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i get about 800kbps to 1.2mbps on average. But I just took a screen shot of my phone as soon as I got home and I got this :O
This is one of my best ones on 3G that I have had.
I feel bad that some of your data speeds are so slow.
I've had that Rogers 500mb plan for four months and so far I haven't done more than about 300mb. It's mostly just browsing websites and having autosync on. I use Shazam here and there and maybe a handful of youtube videos a month.
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i get about 800kbps to 1.2mbps on average. But I just took a screen shot of my phone as soon as I got home and I got this :O
This is one of my best ones on 3G that I have had.
I feel bad that some of your data speeds are so slow.
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Yeah, well I hate you now
surly someone can tell me how ugly background data's going to be when I get my bill?
Macmee said:
Yeah, well I hate you now
surly someone can tell me how ugly background data's going to be when I get my bill?
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I really wouldn't be too concerned if I were you. I have 16 days left on my billing cycle with Rogers and I've only used 150mb's. That included tethering to 3 laptops for 3 hours. As long as you're not streaming music or downloading torrents on your phone you'll be fine. Especially if you have wifi at home and other places. There are many apps that you can download that will automatically turn on your wifi when your phone is in a known wifi area(setup by you).
I don't do a lot of im'ing, mostly just texting, but I spent a decent amount of time on the interenet on my phone, and everything is set for push/sync.
First, a little bit about me that lead to how I came across this...
I work in the electronics department of a retail store, and when the days get slow I like to tether my G2 to the wifi enabled tv's and watch netflix with coworkers. I do this on almost a daily basis and burns through A LOT of data.
Of course after a few days I get the text message from T-Mobile after I get through my 5GB of (fake) unlimited data and will be slowed for the remainder of this billing cycle... This normally results in my downstream speeds going to a trickle of 7kb/s as apposed to my uncapped speeds of anywhere from 300kb/s to 1400kb/s.
So I have another job that I work on the days off sometimes and it's running deliveries. I use the navigation app to get to where ever it may be for work and sometimes my GPS doesn't like to locate me right away. When this happens at work, I start to panic (I don't know my way around town for sh*t) and try every solution on hand I can think of. I tried fixing permissions then network operator selections and eventually the GPS will locate me function just fine.
So I have never hit my cap while working my part time job doing deliveries, and have never really used the navigation app until I started working there and this is how I came across this uncapping of my data while trying to fix my gps, I went into wireless & network settings, then mobile networks, and select network operators, it does some searching for a bit then gives me the option for AT&T or T-Mobile, (I always just do select automatically) and after doing this, my data speeds return to normal... like I am still getting downloads at 600kb/s+.
According to the T-mobile "my account" app, I am at 7.26GB for this month.
(I will upload screens in a second for the naysayers)
Something about this network operator selection thing has the ability to unthrottle me everytime I go over my data. Not sure what actually happens behind the screens when I do this method but just thought I'd share in hopes that it may provide some help to others in a possible loop hole to the (fake) unlimited data issue a lot of us run into.
P.S. Noticed that the speedtest app always thinks I'm in Dallas TX every time I do the network operator unthrottle thing, when I actually live in the Chicago IL area.
Wow, this seems like a great find. finally we can maintain full speed over the month. Gonna definitely give this a try once my speed gets throttled. Thanks!
Just for safe measures before people start saying it's not working, I'd like to just make it known that I am currently running on CyanogenMod-7.1.0-RC1-vision and using 2.6.35.13-UmaroV1.06+ kernel. Radio-26.03.02.26_M. Dunno if that affects anything in this department lol.
Also one thing I've noticed and forgot to mention...If I connect to a wifi network, once I have disconnected from it, my speeds are throttled again but doing the operator selection unthrottles it. This is the only thing I've noticed that reactivates the throttle but is still fixed in a matter of minutes.
Ill test this once I finish download battlefield 3 though I dont think Ill hit 5gb once done. Probably need another 1GB or so.
BTW to save data from navigating, you can enable a feature in Google Maps 'labs' to allow caching map data. After enabling it, long press on a location and tell it to cache, it'll then download a 10 square mile radius of that point and save it to your SDcard (you can cache multiple areas). Then it won't cost you data next time you load that map
Anyways, interesting find! I wonder if its because it kinda... re-registers your phone on the network, and you get a new address / spot on the network? Idk... I've only hit my 5gb once and I wasn't capped so I can't really check this often.
My guess is that Tmobile servers learned your usage statistic including your location, amount of data consumed, most connected APNs nearby and usage schedule. They then use those factors to throttle/filter the APN you are connected to the most. But once you "refresh" the apn list or the cache on your phone by searching for network operators, your phone is no longer "blacklisted"
But that is just my theory.
@martonikaj
OMG that will be sooo incredibly useful. Thank you!!!
EDIT: Here's screens to show that it's no bs
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Wow, now im really hoping thisll work. EA and their stupid Origin errored out again. Lost a gig of data.
dietotherhythm said:
@martonikaj
OMG that will be sooo incredibly useful. Thank you!!!
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yep. I use map caching a lot when I'm going to be driving to/through like a rural area or a state park or something and I want a map, but won't have 3G (or even EDGE).
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How did you get the My Account app working? This is what mine looks like
And when I press Menu > About it says Unsupported Device
I just downloaded it from the market. You're on tmobile right?
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I just downloaded it from the market. You're on tmobile right?
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Yes, I'm on T-Mobile. But I'm on CM7 like you are, and CM7 already includes the app. Is downloading it from the market the only way to get it to work?
I just downloaded it from market. Don't think it was there when I installed CM7.
Yeah, we known about this for a while. Same thing happens when you switch apns (wap.voicestream.com for example). It just changes your ip on the network and will last for several hours or until you reboot. Its temporary but works good enough. Too bad my old one doesn't work anymore. Its all controlled server side now.
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Yes, I'm on T-Mobile. But I'm on CM7 like you are, and CM7 already includes the app. Is downloading it from the market the only way to get it to work?
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In the build.prop in /system, with any text editor, you just need to change this:
ro.product.model=HTC Vision
ro.product.brand=vision (or whatever it says here)
to this:
ro.product.model=T-Mobile G2
ro.product.brand=tmobile
That's it. Reboot and it'll work just fine. I change it every time I update ROMs on CM.
The way I understood this: Once Throttled simply navigate to network operator settings and select your standard operator or reset your apn settings and you will at least for a certain limited time have unthrottled data?
At least as far as Berlin, Germany, network operator O2 goes: I cannot confirm that this actually works. (HTC Desire Z, latest Bulletproof MIUI rom).
Ditamae said:
In the build.prop in /system, with any text editor, you just need to change this:
ro.product.model=HTC Vision
ro.product.brand=vision (or whatever it says here)
to this:
ro.product.model=T-Mobile G2
ro.product.brand=tmobile
That's it. Reboot and it'll work just fine. I change it every time I update ROMs on CM.
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Mine works on CM7 without editing build.prop about 90% of the time. Kinda weird people seem to have different results.
thomas_wlc said:
The way I understood this: Once Throttled simply navigate to network operator settings and select your standard operator or reset your apn settings and you will at least for a certain limited time have unthrottled data?
At least as far as Berlin, Germany, network operator O2 goes: I cannot confirm that this actually works. (HTC Desire Z, latest Bulletproof MIUI rom).
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That's what I've been doing and it works great. Might just be a loop in the T-Mobile networks but I thought I'd share in case it wasn't brought to anyone's attention
Just to be sure I went for the latest nightly and tried again.
Made sure that I got new ip's. But still nothing. I guess that o2 germany simply handles throttling differently.
Thanks for sharing though, would've been nice if it worked.
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This didnt work for me. Im using MIUI Bulletproof ROM.
Although, right around the same time this thread was made, I went over the cap and still had full data speeds. It lasted 4-5 days I think.
I hit around 6.5 GB before I was finally throttled and that was around the end of Oct/beginning of Nov.
Hey everyone, just another thing I'm facing with my Note 4...
Ever since I got my Note 4, it's been having some problems with No Service, so I thought it was my old SIM card (that had to be hacked off into microSIM shape), but since I got it exchanged for a new one it's still dropping into No Service very often, like twenty times in 5 minutes. Then it seems to be fine for a few hours, but then it happens again a few times and so on...
Basic info:
SM-N910F
Stock, unrooted NK4 ROM with NK4 modem as there is no way to not trip KNOX yet.
O2 Czech Republic
In the same places, my S2 never had a single signal drop (No Service)—not sure if these two things are identical?
Questions/thoughts...
Could this be modem related or could it be something with the device itself?
Is there any way to test it?
I mostly notice it on H and H+, not so much (never) on EDGE, 4G coverage is rare in my area, so I can't say exactly.
Factory reset: could it change something in this case? I'm saving it as the penultimate solution, before getting a new one.
Thanks for your help.
I think I found a little bit of correlation between when and where it happens. Not really sure if it happens only when I'm close to some WiFi network, but I just noticed that when I'm in proximity of a WiFi network, the NO SERVICE is very often.
Plus, when I think about it, I haven't noticed it anywhere else, but in WiFi areas. Is the phone trying to tell me to use the WiFi?! Well, I can do that at home but nowhere else as I don't want my packets sniffed more than they already are by the provider...
Seriously, is there any way that WiFi networks could interfere with my phone's signal/service?
if smart switch is on, yes.
zurkx said:
if smart switch is on, yes.
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Thank you for the reply, I thought that smart switch was meant for transferring data from an old phone to a new one? Or do you mean some different "smart switch"?
look in settings. smart switch moves data from your mobile network to wifi and back.
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look in settings. smart switch moves data from your mobile network to wifi and back.
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Yeah, found it, Smart network switch in Wi-Fi settings. I have it unticked. So this shouldn't be affecting me(?) As the No Service happens to me when I'm on mobile data, in Wi-Fi range but my Wi-Fi is off...
no solution yet
I still haven't figured out what's the problem exactly.
But me and my colleague have the same provider, but she's got an S4 and when I had them side-by-side I noticed that both phones dropped to No Service at the same time, but my S2 didn't. The area is fine, signal-wise, there's even a mediocre 4G, but at the time all of them were on H+. And when they "regained consciousness", they were starting from zero signal EDGE back to full H+.
This makes me wonder, as it seems it's got to have something to do with some setting in both phones / SIM cards' setup. Both of them have new SIM cards and both of them did it even with the old ones.
I'm gonna call my provider's tech support to see what they have to say about it.
I am experiencing the same problem here in USA. I bought the phone from Amazon Germany, using it on AT & T network in US. For no reason the phone drops the phone call and goes into " Not registered on network" message. This lasts anywhere from 20 seconds to 5 minutes, then without me doing anything goes back to normal. I was using this phone in Czech republic for a week in January and had no issues.
I was experiencing no service on my Exynos n910u and I ended up reflashing ONLY the modem, and it's fine now.
Proof:
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Hey guys, thanks for the replies.
It seems to me like a modem issue too. I remember that I had to change modem on my S2 in order for H+ to work.
And since I can see there is an issue when changing countries, it would suggest it as possible... However, does flashing modem only trip the Knox counter or something? I can't read through the forums right now, so I'm asking politely here.
Anyway, I isolated the issue to 3G networks, because when I force my phone to be 2G only it never drops, my signal is green and seldom grey. No service never occurs, but as soon as I switch it to 2G/3G/4G or something else that includes 3G, it starts again.
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carlitos66 said:
I am experiencing the same problem here in USA. I bought the phone from Amazon Germany, using it on AT & T network in US. For no reason the phone drops the phone call and goes into " Not registered on network" message. This lasts anywhere from 20 seconds to 5 minutes, then without me doing anything goes back to normal. I was using this phone in Czech republic for a week in January and had no issues.
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Wanted to thank you for the input, this just suggests that the modem/radio is at fault. Because you relocated to a different area and it doesn't work properly with the bands there.
I had the same problem on my S2, which was unable to connect to 3G until I flashed the modem recommended to me by someone here on xda. But that was almost 4 years ago, I just don't understand why this happens, what's so different that the modem just wouldn't connect, plus the S2 was bought from my provider and it was branded with their bloatware and still, it didn't work.
But here on my N4, it's similar, but it seems to work just fine and then, all of a sudden, you're facing No Service message for a few seconds or minutes, then boom, you're back on.
I spoke with Samsung support today, and I guess they didn't even understand what I was saying. I'm gonna have to visit them and ask around, if they could flash the modem to something more compatible with my area. Can't use the phone like this, that's why I bought it in the first place - I need to be online and as fast as possible. But now, it would seem like I'm better off with my S2
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Well, that sucks...
So, I had my phone serviced and they said everything was fine and that it's working the way it should.
Of course it isn't, the second I walked out of there I had a No Service a few times again, I already tried changing the bands only to what my provider has, didn't help at all, switched it back to all available bands. Naturally, I got really pissed. There seem to be only two viable options:
a) flash a different modem, as suggested in a previous post
or
b) get rid of the phone, which I really don't wanna do, but it's really annoying having to resend every second message (often twice), be it SMS or IM, because it drops into No Service...
ad a) I did a search and I was unable to find a modem thread or anything regarding modems for N910F, am I blind or there isn't one? Or am I supposed to extract it myself from a stock ROM file? (I don't even remember how to do that anymore, lol.... I guess there is a guide for that, but again, I haven't found it?! Or is it universal across Samsung devices?)
ad b) I love the phone but this makes me wanna throw it out the window
Thanks for any kind of help! I'm desperate.
[email protected]$k! said:
So, I had my phone serviced and they said everything was fine and that it's working the way it should.
Of course it isn't, the second I walked out of there I had a No Service a few times again, I already tried changing the bands only to what my provider has, didn't help at all, switched it back to all available bands. Naturally, I got really pissed. There seem to be only two viable options:
a) flash a different modem, as suggested in a previous post
or
b) get rid of the phone, which I really don't wanna do, but it's really annoying having to resend every second message (often twice), be it SMS or IM, because it drops into No Service...
ad a) I did a search and I was unable to find a modem thread or anything regarding modems for N910F, am I blind or there isn't one? Or am I supposed to extract it myself from a stock ROM file? (I don't even remember how to do that anymore, lol.... I guess there is a guide for that, but again, I haven't found it?! Or is it universal across Samsung devices?)
ad b) I love the phone but this makes me wanna throw it out the window
Thanks for any kind of help! I'm desperate.
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Did you manage to solve your problems? I have the website with modems but i cant post links.
xztrazil said:
Did you manage to solve your problems? I have the website with modems but i cant post links.
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Thank you for your reply!
I haven't solved them yet, but it got a lot better when I updated to Lollipop. It's got a different modem (BOC4) and it seems to have improved my situation. So happy I didn't have to throw the phone away after all.
To be clear, it still happens but a lot less since the update, maybe once a week, for a few seconds which I deem acceptable but not ideal.