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Here's the low-down..
With Sprint AIRAVE™, a winner of the 2008 PC World 25 Most Innovative Products Award, you'll enjoy enhanced wireless service in your home or office — even if there is no coverage. It's like having your own miniature cell tower with a coverage radius of up to 5,000 square feet.
Exclusive to Sprint, AIRAVE will be available for purchase at your nearest Sprint Store on 8/17.
Key Features
Works with any Sprint phone — up to three users at the same time.¹
Installs in minutes with your existing broadband Internet access, such as DSL, cable or T1.
Unlimited incoming and outgoing calls, including nationwide long distance, when using your Sprint phone and initiating your call on the device (requires an AIRAVE unlimited calling plan).**
Automatically transfers calls to the Sprint Nationwide Network once you leave your home or office.²
Limit access to your AIRAVE by creating a list of up to 50 approved Sprint phone numbers.
What You'll Need
Active Sprint phone(s)
Sprint voice plan
Broadband Internet access, such as DSL, cable or T1.
Available Ethernet port — either on your modem or via a router — to connect AIRAVE to your broadband data service.
Available power outlet
Pricing
Sprint AIRAVE Base Station - $99.99/each (requires activation at time of purchase and subscription to an AIRAVE plan. Excludes taxes.)
AIRAVE Enhanced Coverage Charge - $4.99/mo. (required per AIRAVE unit)**
Single Line Unlimited Calling Plan (optional) - $10/mo.**
Multi-Line Unlimited Calling Plan (optional) - $20/mo. per account**
¹Does not work with plans or services operating only on the Nextel Nationwide Network.
²Calls transfer dependent upon sufficient signal from the Sprint Network beyond the range of the AIRAVE Base Station.
Here's the link, what do you all think..?
Let me know, I'd jump on it but just cuz I work for SPRINT don't mean ima jump on everything they sell..
http://www.nextel.com/en/services/airave/index.shtml?id9=vanity:AIRAVE
I think you are spamming....
[Mod Edit: GODZSON has earned some trust with all the skinning he's done on XDA, and eventually this thread proves it was not of commercial intent]
Sounds like UMA... and you spelled wireless wrong
Spam..? LOL
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I think you are spamming....
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LOL .. nah, just cuz I work for Sprint doesnt mean I'll be expecting a nice check to pay me for advertising.. I cud use a couple MIL$$ or 2 MIL$$ to take a nice long vacation and or retire.. feel me. If I wuz getn paid I' cud take payment options it would be 7 c-notes a month and live just fine... Like Dave Chapelle would say "I'M RICH B*TCH!"
P.S. Just showing new coming tech for SPRINT to look forward to.. You have T-Mobile logo on your Sig so that would mean your spamming too right..?
any how, this is a friendly post to those that might answer back with critics on the AIRAVE.
As I stated, I do work for SPRINT and appreciate the nice benefits at work and discounts but I don't get paid to advertise, just wuna know what others may think that are outside the box.. Thanks
wshader said:
Sounds like UMA... and you spelled wireless wrong
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For those that don't know what UMA is... and Yea I work for a Wireless Carrier and spelled Wireless wrong.. lol
UMA Overview
Unlicensed Mobile Access (UMA) technology provides access to GSM and GPRS mobile services over unlicensed spectrum technologies, including Bluetooth and 802.11. By deploying UMA technology, service providers can enable subscribers to roam and handover between cellular networks and public and private unlicensed wireless networks using dual-mode mobile handsets. With UMA, subscribers receive a consistent user experience for their mobile voice and data services as they transition between networks.
In order to promote the widespread adoption of UMA technology, a number of leading companies within the wireless industry have jointly developed a set of open specifications. These specifications are available through this Web site, and may be used by vendors and carriers of wireless communications systems and applications to develop and deploy interoperable solutions.
In addition to developing and maintaining the initial specifications, the participating companies are actively working with the 3GPP standards organization to use the specifications as the basis for the development of a formal standard.
How UMA Technology Works
1.A mobile subscriber with a UMA-enabled, dual-mode handset moves within range of an unlicensed wireless network to which the handset is allowed to connect
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2.Upon connecting, the handset contacts the UMA Network Controller (UNC) over the broadband IP access network to be authenticated and authorized to access GSM voice and GPRS data services via the unlicensed wireless network.
3.If approved, the subscriber’s current location information stored in the core network is updated, and from that point on all mobile voice and data traffic is routed to the handset via the Unlicensed Mobile Access Network (UMAN) rather than the cellular radio access network (RAN).
4.ROAMING: When a UMA-enabled subscriber moves outside the range of an unlicensed wireless network to which they are connected, the UNC and handset facilitate roaming back to the licensed outdoor network. This roaming process is completely transparent to the subscriber.
5.HANDOVER: If a subscriber is on an active GSM voice call or GPRS data session when they come within range (or out of range) of an unlicensed wireless network, that voice call or data session can automatically handover between access networks with no discernable service interruption. Handovers are completely transparent to the subscriber.
Believe it or not I don't think your spamming!! I think this is good information to know. Developing and Hacking is the wrong place for it not matter what the excuse... But it is great information. I wish more carriers had this kind of technology.
Doesn't work right with WM phones. Causes the phone to periodically wake up and hurts the battery life. I've had one for about 8 months and stopped using it after 1 month.
nonegiven said:
Doesn't work right with WM phones. Causes the phone to periodically wake up and hurts the battery life. I've had one for about 8 months and stopped using it after 1 month.
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really, wow, i really was looking forward to this until you mention this. is it a known issue that might someday be fixed?
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Doesn't work right with WM phones. Causes the phone to periodically wake up and hurts the battery life. I've had one for about 8 months and stopped using it after 1 month.
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I don't know what might cause this, but it might be on your phone and not with the unit itself. I hope you tried a different rom/radio combination before giving up.
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I don't know what might cause this, but it might be on your phone and not with the unit itself. I hope you tried a different rom/radio combination before giving up.
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I've tried multiple ROMs on various models of WM phones. My reception is decent without the unit, I just got it because it was free.
nonegiven said:
Doesn't work right with WM phones. Causes the phone to periodically wake up and hurts the battery life. I've had one for about 8 months and stopped using it after 1 month.
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Hmm, who's ur provider? The Airave has been testedto work with all SPRINT phones including WM phones.
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Hmm, who's ur provider? The Airave has been testedto work with all SPRINT phones including WM phones.
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Obviously Sprint. Technically, the Airave works with WM phones as long as you don't mind them waking up constantly.
Well if it's not spam it's Networking
I think GODZSON just wants an honoust discussion about this.
Nonegiven airave works with and Sprint device and would not wake your WM device, but other software you have loaded might. Where did you get yours, you say you have had it for 8 months? And aad4321 yes T-Mobile has a similar product but its device specific.
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Nonegiven airave works with and Sprint device and would not wake your WM device, but other software you have loaded might. Where did you get yours, you say you have had it for 8 months? And aad4321 yes T-Mobile has a similar product but its device specific.
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You have no idea what you're talking about. I got mine in October of last year and have used it with various WM phones with custom ROMs and freshly-installed stock ROMs.
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You have no idea what you're talking about.
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Really, I will P.M. you my cell # and we can compare notes
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Really, I will P.M. you my cell # and we can compare notes
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Go for it. Every single WM device had the same problem which never bothered the Palm 755p that I also tested with it.
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Go for it. Every single WM device had the same problem which never bothered the Palm 755p that I also tested with it.
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I'm getting a LOT better battery life on my Q9c using the Airave. Before, I was 0-1 bars of service.
The only "wakeup" I've seen is switching from EVDO to 1X and back, but my phone did that before.
Still haven't heard from halfdriven.
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I've just got myself a Vario II as a replacement for my Vario. If I put the sim from my VBVario in, will my internet access automatically be 3G or do I need to ring someone? Is there a way to check?
Cheers.
If its a SIM issued in the last 2-3 years it should be fine. You will see a 'U' (or perhaps '3G' depending on ROM) instead of a G when you are in UMTS (3G) coverage.
You may or may not need to telephone them to get HSDPA turned on. The only way to see if this is working is to do a speed test (search this forum for url's) when in UMTS coverage.
Good tip that!
I have put my lovely T-mobile UK SIM into a new Orange SPV M3100. Speeds were going up to standard 3G level (384 kbps).
I rang T-mobile on 150 and found a human, eventually, and asked for HSPDA service to be enabled on my account which was done straight away. My next speed test got me neary 1 Mbit/s, so I'm happy!
Cool, thanks for the thanks
Hopefully you guys can help me out with this HSDPA related query on t-mobile.
I've just got my MDA VarioII (TyTN) and have taken the web'n'walk package with it for £7.50 per month.
I'm getting the 3G speeds of around 380kbps but started reading threads like this one and thought, crikey, I'll have me some of this HSDPA malarkey!
So I phoned t-mobile and asked them to activate the service on my account and after eventually getting passed to their technical department, I've been told that to get HSDPA you have to have either the web'n'walk plus or max package.
These are either £12.50pm or £22.50pm which is obviously a good bit more.
Can you confirm if yourselves have these packages or if you've been able to get HSDPA enabled on the standard web'n'walk?
Cheers
That's just them talking rubbish. I'm on the £7.50 WnW.
I had to argue for an hour on the phone, which got me nowhere, they were spouting crap about how I had to upgrade my plan. Even tech support was telling me this.
Afterwards I called back and luckily got put through to someone who actually knew what I was talking about. It took a second to have it enabled.
A lot of people have experienced that problem...so you just might as well. It seems we know more about the technology they're employing than the networks themselves...which is absolutely disgusting on T-Mobiles part.
Just remember...you're right, they're wrong.
Also...an easy way of checking is if you're signed up to My T-Mobile...you can check the additional services bit for 'HSDPA 384k Uplink' which should be enabled...after they enable it that is.
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That's just them talking rubbish. I'm on the £7.50 WnW.
I had to argue for an hour on the phone, which got me nowhere, they were spouting crap about how I had to upgrade my plan. Even tech support was telling me this.
Afterwards I called back and luckily got put through to someone who actually knew what I was talking about. It took a second to have it enabled.
A lot of people have experienced that problem...so you just might as well. It seems we know more about the technology they're employing than the networks themselves...which is absolutely disgusting on T-Mobiles part.
Just remember...you're right, they're wrong.
Also...an easy way of checking is if you're signed up to My T-Mobile...you can check the additional services bit for 'HSDPA 384k Uplink' which should be enabled...after they enable it that is.
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Totally correct.. I had the same problem only 4 days after taking out the new WnW account with my Vario 2. After 2 seperate phone calls I still had no luck so I told them the phone would be returned fully boxed as I was in my right as other peeps on the £7.50 WnW package had this enabled. After 4 hours they rang me back saying that it would be enabled as they didnt want to lose me as a new customer..
The moral of this story is...............PERSIST UNTIL THEY GET IT ENABLED...
It does make a lot of difference too..
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Thanks for the info!
Sounds like they're chancing their arm with this.
Apart from citing customers like yourselves are there any other arguments I can put to them in case they start to play hardball?
I've had my contract for a month now so I'm out of the 14 day cooling off period but it seems to me that this could be argued as a treating customers fairly issue...
I prefer to go into these battles with as much ammunition as possible!!
Thanks again
draging up an old thread, how do you see what speed your running at?
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draging up an old thread, how do you see what speed your running at?
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Speed test site, e.g. http://text.dslreports.com/mspeed
cheers
and hmmm, 345kbit/sec, dont look like im using hspda, dam it?
Just got my Vario2, called CS and they said HSDPA is already switched on, tried a speed test with dslreports, speed comes back in the low 300s?!
Also when it's downloading, the 3G sign doesn't change to a U or H (read in a few posts that it's supposed to?)
tmobile, and many other roms, sets it to stay as the 3G icon at all times.
HSDPA speeds are variable, though that is a little low - mine with 2bars reception at midnight just now got 1048kbps
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Just got my Vario2, called CS and they said HSDPA is already switched on, tried a speed test with dslreports, speed comes back in the low 300s?!
Also when it's downloading, the 3G sign doesn't change to a U or H (read in a few posts that it's supposed to?)
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3G is exactly the same as U. Just some ROMS have one, some the other.
In most WM6 ROMS the 3G will change to H when HSDPA is being used.
Other than doing a speedtest you can check whether HSDPA is working by using the fieldtest application.
Thanks for the info. What's fieldtest application & how do I use it? By the way it's a WM5 device, not WM6
Fieldest is the HTC engineer tool which shows advanced network stats (which you have to be a geek to understand, as they're not presented in a user-friendly way at all). It's available from the XDA Wiki.
T-Mobile are being covetous as to who gets HSDPA enabled now - unless you're a business customer it's probably 50/50 as to whether you can get it enabled on first call. I only got it enabled when I got through to a tech engineer as opposed to a regular CSR.
You can use the fit4cat Hermes Tweaker (from fit4cat.de, registration required) to check whether HSDPA is enabled on your phone or not. If it's not enabled you'll have to do the ring-and-pray with TM cust services.
any chance we could get a bit of a guide on how to ge t-mobile to enable it on your line?
I just tried them on 150, they said that it's not available on the flext 25 + wnw prices plan, apparently i'd have to upgrade to flext 35, is this true?
does anyone have it enabled on anything less than flext 25?
thanks, Forlornity
sorry for the triple post, but I've _apparently_ already got HSDPA enabled, but when I run a speed test on dslreports.com, it comes out with my speed being 44kbit/sec every time.
Is this due to something I don't know about?
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I just tried them on 150, they said that it's not available on the flext 25 + wnw prices plan, apparently i'd have to upgrade to flext 35, is this true?
does anyone have it enabled on anything less than flext 25?
thanks, Forlornity
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ill try them sometime in the week, tho im on a pre flex-t tarriff?
Hi,
I was just wondering, since the Htc wildfire has not yer arrived in my country, is it possible for me to purchase an unlocked wildfire and use it without a data plan??
i am able to do so with my blackberry. I can make calls and even access the mobile internet on my blackberry without a data plan.
So, is it possible to do the same with a wildfire, even when rooted and on a custom rom??
Please help...!
Yes when you set it up it asks u if u want mobile network and WiFi or WiFi only
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Yes when you set it up it asks u if u want mobile network and WiFi or WiFi only
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Thank you for replying..
So all i need to do is to choose the wifi only??
Isn't it possible to use a browser (like opera mini as i do on the blackberry) to bypass the mobile network restrictions?? Because in the blackberry, since i cannot use the phone's browser, i use opera mini to bypass the mobile network restrictions and i'm able to browse using the mobile network..
Kindly reply..
Someone do correct me if I'm wrong...
The only devices sold here with data plan are iPhone and BlackBerries. Others can be bought with/without contract which may or may not require additional data plan. You can use the phone with WiFi only option in which case you can browse and use applications which require network access free of charge. You can use the cell phone without data plan as well but it usually costs a fortune (at least here) to do so. You can turn on network connection and if your device if configured properly you'll be able to do everything you want. It would be the best to get at least the cheapest data plan if you're planning on using any features which require internet access.
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Thank you for replying..
So all i need to do is to choose the wifi only??
Isn't it possible to use a browser (like opera mini as i do on the blackberry) to bypass the mobile network restrictions?? Because in the blackberry, since i cannot use the phone's browser, i use opera mini to bypass the mobile network restrictions and i'm able to browse using the mobile network..
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No opera mini only works with mobile network on. anyway here is a screendshot of the setup page.
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you can always turn on mobile network by pressing and holding the power button, and scrolling down to the bottom
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Someone do correct me if I'm wrong...
The only devices sold here with data plan are iPhone and BlackBerries. Others can be bought with/without contract which may or may not require additional data plan. You can use the phone with WiFi only option in which case you can browse and use applications which require network access free of charge. You can use the cell phone without data plan as well but it usually costs a fortune (at least here) to do so. You can turn on network connection and if your device if configured properly you'll be able to do everything you want. It would be the best to get at least the cheapest data plan if you're planning on using any features which require internet access.
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Ahh, i see now. So that means i can still use the mobile network if i have the specific settings t connect to the network's internet, even without a data plan...? IF so, then that is very good news for me...
Starges said:
Ahh, i see now. So that means i can still use the mobile network if i have the specific settings t connect to the network's internet, even without a data plan...? IF so, then that is very good news for me...
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you can but you will be charged (in the uk its £3 per MB). if you go down this or the data plan option, i would advise getting 3g watchdog due the the fact that the wildfire has 3g and can use the network to get more data than a 2g blackberry (most of them are 2g) in the space of 5 mins. the wildfire also has 2g (and you can get a data plan for the wildfire - i have one)
Yes, you can connect to the internet without data plan if your network settings are set correctly. However, I strongly advise you NOT to do it unless you have a data plan or are connecting through wi-fi at home/work. As brilldoctor said, it's the most expensive option and the data transfer is charged per 100 kB here (as far as I know). Do set your phone not to do automatic/background sync/update if you don't have a data plan. I used my phone for a week with wi-fi only option. So, I used it normally for phone calls/texting while away and it would automatically connect to my network and sync/update data when I got home. I also recommend you to get 3G Watchdog or Stats to monitor your usage. Do set a limit so you don't over do it.
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The only devices sold here with data plan are iPhone and BlackBerries. Others can be bought with/without contract which may or may not require additional data plan.
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Well its still possible to buy an iPhone or blackberry without a data plan though the people there might discourage you from doing so.
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Well its still possible to buy an iPhone or blackberry without a data plan though the people there might discourage you from doing so.
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Most certainly it is possible. You can buy both unlocked and use it on your deisired mobile operator. BlackBerries aren't usually used that way, but iPhone is. Many people get burned with Androids/iPhone due to fact they are net oriented and do some tasks in the background. They get them without data plan, check a few things out and think how cool it is and then they get a bill.
If you do go down the data plan route watch out for nasty fair usage policies (hint: 3g watchdog and apndroid)
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A question to all specifically those with the t-mobile tab. I am wondering if any if you can use either the internet or maps while on a call? I have noticed that i can not, i loose edge even though i have some bars, see the picture bellow:
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Once i end the call i get the Edge symbol back.
Any way to be able to use both? What if i need to look for directions while on a call? The only option i have is to disconnect the call then launch maps, get the directions then call the person back. The same thing if i want to look up something online while on a call.
I had the same issue when i was using my Vibrant, and never got it to work.
Any suggestions, or is this not possible?
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As far as I remember, Tmobile has never offered voice + data simultaneously on their 3G network. One of the very very few perks of having the evil AT&T overlords.
adinis78 said:
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No, it's not possible.
EDGE is still 2G, and you can't use 2G data and voice simultaneously.
You need 3G to have voice and data simultaneously, and that currently isn't possible with a T-Mo US Tab.
Regards,
Dave
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As far as I remember, Tmobile has never offered voice + data simultaneously on their 3G network. One of the very very few perks of having the evil AT&T overlords.
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thank you, but im still sticking with tmo..lol!!!
foxmeister said:
No, it's not possible.
EDGE is still 2G, and you can't use 2G data and voice simultaneously.
You need 3G to have voice and data simultaneously, and that currently isn't possible with a T-Mo US Tab.
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Dave
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thanks, but the previous member stated it can not be done even if running 3g+voice, i have the Vibrant and was never able to do so, if i had full 3g and got a call i would loose the 3g symbol and could not use the internet or google maps only after i ended the call i could.
this is such a bummer but i have dealt with it so far so i guess not that big of a deal.
It shouldn't prevent you from using voice + wifi though, so you could use your Vibrant as a mifi and share it out that way.
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It shouldn't prevent you from using voice + wifi though, so you could use your Vibrant as a mifi and share it out that way.
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that would be an option but then i would be needing 2 devices.
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its vice versa, whenever i'm on net mode, message or calls is getting a hard time to get through
been guesing that its the same 2g that causing it, but my colleague getting them just fine using blackberry
is it only android?
is RIM using a different band so voice and data can get side by side?
fyi, all of my colleague only getting 2g too (edge/gprs) coz we're on the same remote area
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thanks, but the previous member stated it can not be done even if running 3g+voice, i have the Vibrant and was never able to do so, if i had full 3g and got a call i would loose the 3g symbol and could not use the internet or google maps only after i ended the call i could.
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I find it very hard to believe that TMo US don't support simultaneous voice and data whilst on 3G! It would be pretty retarded if true.
Here's a thread concerning this issue where a Nexus One owner confirms they gets simultaneous voice and data on their phone if they are in 3G coverage.
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Dave
foxmeister said:
I find it very hard to believe that TMo US don't support simultaneous voice and data whilst on 3G! It would be pretty retarded if true.
Here's a thread concerning this issue where a Nexus One owner confirms they gets simultaneous voice and data on their phone if they are in 3G coverage.
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Dave
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That's completely correct. T-Mobile's 3G network allows for both voice and data at the same time. I've had this since my G1 and all my other 3G phones up to and including the myTouch 4G I'm using now. AT&T allows for this as well, while the CDMA networks (Verizon and Sprint) technically could, but haven't sold devices that allow for it that I'm aware of (likely waiting for full 4G rollouts instead).
The problem you're likely having is that, as long as you're on EDGE the data portion WILL drop, and once the IP drops the little E will go with it. It will bring up the data connection again once voice is cleared. This is why long downloads over EDGE can result in getting voicemails on occasion, as the call might not ring through even though you had max bars.
Thank you, I am glad someone had the sense to post the right info. It is annoying when people post information and they have no idea what they are talking about. If we ever get a modem that works with 3g and Voice then YES they will both work at the same time. Even a non 3G ATT phone will NOT be able to do voice/data at the same time. It is simply a limitation of the GSM architecture.
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That's completely correct. T-Mobile's 3G network allows for both voice and data at the same time. I've had this since my G1 and all my other 3G phones up to and including the myTouch 4G I'm using now. AT&T allows for this as well, while the CDMA networks (Verizon and Sprint) technically could, but haven't sold devices that allow for it that I'm aware of (likely waiting for full 4G rollouts instead).
The problem you're likely having is that, as long as you're on EDGE the data portion WILL drop, and once the IP drops the little E will go with it. It will bring up the data connection again once voice is cleared. This is why long downloads over EDGE can result in getting voicemails on occasion, as the call might not ring through even though you had max bars.
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The weird thing is that when i had my Vibrant i was having the same issue, i could have full 3g service but i could not do anything while on a call ex.maps, internet, very strange.
Just hope someone can find a modem that will allow the tab to have full 3g+voice.
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adinis78 said:
The weird thing is that when i had my Vibrant i was having the same issue, i could have full 3g service but i could not do anything while on a call ex.maps, internet, very strange.
Just hope someone can find a modem that will allow the tab to have full 3g+voice.
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That is strange, as my friend's Vibrant works fine doing both in 3G. You've never received an IM or eMail notification during a phone call?
just tested 3g data plus voice call on my vibrant, worked just fine. fast data too...
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This is why long downloads over EDGE can result in getting voicemails on occasion, as the call might not ring through even though you had max bars.
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Technically, even on 2G, the networks can prioritise voice over date, so that if a voice call comes in whilst you're on 2G data, the data will pause to allow the voice call to continues.
However, all the networks that I've ever user don't support this, though I'm sure many do.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Technically, even on 2G, the networks can prioritise voice over date, so that if a voice call comes in whilst you're on 2G data, the data will pause to allow the voice call to continues.
However, all the networks that I've ever user don't support this, though I'm sure many do.
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Dave
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Yep, which is why that stands out in my mind as an annoyance. But since I leave the phone alone for the most part while I use my Tab, it isn't much of an issue anymore.
MY\t-mobile.com and does not let me browse the web.
Installed "GScript Lite" and BusyBox --> Extracted modemswitch.zip --> Copy /sdcard/modemswitch/switch.sh to the /sdcard/gscript/ directory--> "Add Script", --> select switch.sh--> saved.
Tried this from GScriptLite: switch
Rotohammer's Modem Switcher
Current modem=yyyyyyy
Flashing files ...
Switching to Phone/2G
The Tab never reboots and it doesn't switches to 3G. It returns back to GScriptLite. Switcher is on Edge --> my browser takes me directly to MY\t-mobile.com and does not let me browse the web. Did I miss something?
Model:GT-P1000
Baseband ver: P1000XXJHA
Kernel ver: 2.6.32.9 ( [email protected]#1)
Build number: FROYO.XXJMA
Network : T mobile
Disregard poat
I sometimes use wired and WIFI tethering from my focus when my internet goes out. Well today I got an email stating that I have to change my unlimited data plan to a tethering plan with 4gb of data if I want to continue tethering. If I continue without changing the plan it states they will change it without my consent. Now none of this crap makes sense, I have an unlimited plan so I should be able to chose what I want to use it for. I was wondering is there a way for ATT not to know I'm tethering from my phone?
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I sometimes use wired and WIFI tethering from my focus when my internet goes out. Well today I got an email stating that I have to change my unlimited data plan to a tethering plan with 4gb of data if I want to continue tethering. If I continue without changing the plan it states they will change it without my consent. Now none of this crap makes sense, I have an unlimited plan so I should be able to chose what I want to use it for. I was wondering is there a way for ATT not to know I'm tethering from my phone?
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Oh and here's how much data I used last month 804.27 MB.
I just got this email too, as well as a text saying i'm in the top 5% of data users and they'll start throttling my speed for the rest of the month whenever I get to 5%. Yes I do tether, and I don't really want to stop. If there was an option to add just a tethering feature to my account I would consider it, but the only option is to downgrade from my unlimited data plan to a 4GB plan that would allow tethering. Pretty damn lame.
Does anyone know how they know you're tethering? I've used wired tethering since I got my Focus in January and never had an issue. I tried the wifi hotspot option for maybe half an hour, which was a couple weeks ago when that hack first became available. I know the iPhone users who were using wifi hotspot app were getting caught a couple months ago. I'm just trying to figure out if it makes any difference if I use it wired or hotspot? Is wired safer or can they just tell either way? It's also speculated they check browser user agent strings, which could be spoofed though. So is there any way to get around this and continue tethering?
I am going through the same thing on my captivate with GB rom on it. The problem (based on the research i have been able to do) is that the phone uses a different APN to connect to Att's network when tethering. I am trying to find a hack or a mod that would use the same APN as the phone... but I am having no luck.
mrnice225 said:
I am going through the same thing on my captivate with GB rom on it. The problem (based on the research i have been able to do) is that the phone uses a different APN to connect to Att's network when tethering. I am trying to find a hack or a mod that would use the same APN as the phone... but I am having no luck.
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iPhone users that were using the MyWi app were getting the same message about tethering. The developers of MyWi said this on twitter:
"MyWi has always used the primary APN (the same as Safari/Mail/etc). All data is on one connection."
So it must be more than the APN.
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I just got this email too, as well as a text saying i'm in the top 5% of data users and they'll start throttling my speed for the rest of the month whenever I get to 5%. Yes I do tether, and I don't really want to stop. If there was an option to add just a tethering feature to my account I would consider it, but the only option is to downgrade from my unlimited data plan to a 4GB plan that would allow tethering. Pretty damn lame.
Does anyone know how they know you're tethering? I've used wired tethering since I got my Focus in January and never had an issue. I tried the wifi hotspot option for maybe half an hour, which was a couple weeks ago when that hack first became available. I know the iPhone users who were using wifi hotspot app were getting caught a couple months ago. I'm just trying to figure out if it makes any difference if I use it wired or hotspot? Is wired safer or can they just tell either way? It's also speculated they check browser user agent strings, which could be spoofed though. So is there any way to get around this and continue tethering?
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How much data are you using? I'm using around 3-4GB's a month and have not received an email yet.
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How much data are you using? I'm using around 3-4GB's a month and have not received an email yet.
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just wait and u might since I barely use a gig and I got it :/
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How much data are you using? I'm using around 3-4GB's a month and have not received an email yet.
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And I'm currently over 10gb for the current billing cycle which ends in a few days.
AT&T can tell if you're tethering by analyzing packet data. Mobile devices and desktop/laptop computers can be easily distingueshed.
I got the ssame message today and i used only 200mb from my unkimited data plan on my focus this month so far, and in avergae below 2gb monthly. Funny part, no where in their agreement they mention that they will sniff your data packets, which they seem to do lately. There is no other way for them to know what are you doing with your phone, the internet sharing uses exactly the same APN on these phones. I replied to the message with a pure "F..CK OFF" and guess what, you get right away a reply saying that I opted out of their marketing text messaging. All they do at this time, unless you use gigs of data they just send advertisment spam text to all smartphone users to get them on tethering plans, they don't have any real proof of anything at this time if you do or not tethering. You can call them and they will tell you the same thing. I just did that too.
I did the same thing, I kept demanding to see the evidence against me and she said it belongs to ATT lol. SO back to the original question. Has anyone found a way to make them not know we're tethering?
You should read this, and also understand that if they start doing packet analysis, they will find out you're tethering pretty easily.
You can test this easily by capturing all packets from a shared wireless adapter (for example with Connectify) yourselves.
Also, from what I read in AT&Ts Wireless Customer agreement, they can do whatever they want: "We may change any terms, conditions, rates, fees, expenses, or charges regarding your Services at any time". Also, the Acceptable Use Policy says: "However, AT&T may monitor content of any such materials as necessary to comply with applicable laws, regulations or other governmental or judicial requests; or to protect the AT&T network and its customers.".
Btw, I don't live in US and the above was pretty easy to find; it proves that people don't read their contracts. Calling them and asking for proof might work if they "guessed" now, but next time be sure they'll have something.
I'm done with ATT, I received the text message saying that they detected tethering and they automatically switched my unlimited data plan to the new $50/5GB with tethering. I switched yesterday to straight talk, and my Samsung Focus works exactly as before, now for only $45/month, unlimited everything.
dendron said:
I'm done with ATT, I received the text message saying that they detected tethering and they automatically switched my unlimited data plan to the new $50/5GB with tethering. I switched yesterday to straight talk, and my Samsung Focus works exactly as before, now for only $45/month, unlimited everything.
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Your Focus works with Straight Talk?
Fiberop said:
Your Focus works with Straight Talk?
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yes, just add the apn: att.mvno, get the 45 dollars unlimited prepaid and you're good to go, it's time to show att the finger.
www.straighttalksim.com
dendron said:
yes, just add the apn: att.mvno, get the 45 dollars unlimited prepaid and you're good to go, it's time to show att the finger.
www.straighttalksim.com
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Thanks I appreciate the information. That might be an option when my contract is up this year.
dendron said:
I'm done with ATT, I received the text message saying that they detected tethering and they automatically switched my unlimited data plan to the new $50/5GB with tethering. I switched yesterday to straight talk, and my Samsung Focus works exactly as before, now for only $45/month, unlimited everything.
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how much data do you use a month
I myself am concedering straight talk, but i need to know if tethering will boot me off straigt talk, thanks
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AT&T can tell if you're tethering by analyzing packet data. Mobile devices and desktop/laptop computers can be easily distingueshed.
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I only tethered with my Android Tablet and I got the notice. I don't think that's what they're doing.
No root won't be a problem if there is a working hot spot app for us unlimited users.
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FoxFi used to work with a VPN tunnel... but I don't know now. I use VZW as my ISP, so I pay for tethering.
All the phones I have had are rooted with hot spot carrier check bypass so not having a hot spot will be a no go on this phone.
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bulvine420 said:
No root won't be a problem if there is a working hot spot app for us unlimited users.
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hbar98 said:
FoxFi used to work with a VPN tunnel... but I don't know now. I use VZW as my ISP, so I pay for tethering.
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No big need for an app, the turning on hot spot while signal refreshes method works.....Look up details in the Turbo2 forum.
I can get the signal refresher method to work, but the hotspot shortcut in the notification panel only turns it off for me. It will not turn it on. Any suggestions? I have to queue the hotspot settings then switch to activate from there.
Mangu said:
No big need for an app, the turning on hot spot while signal refreshes method works.....Look up details in the Turbo2 forum.
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Searched through the Turbo 2 forums and dont see anything. Anyway you could post a link please? Thank you.
I currently am working with the FCC and the EFF to address this
Below you can read my complaint. I have removed identifying information for the time being but have at this point escalated beyond the FCC. Last night I was contacted by the FCC and we discussed plans for next steps. They have forwarded my complaint to Verizon and I was contacted by Verizon Enterprise Resolutions Team. I spoke with VZW today and had a 45 minute conversation discussing their restriction on the fact that Verizon is treading very close to the 2012 ruling. At this point I am waiting to hear back from Crystal from Verizon's internal team on next steps.
VERIZON WIRELESS - 700MHZ C BLOCK RESTRICTING USERS ABILITY TO UTILIZE OPEN FREQUENCY
On Friday August 19th I purchased a new phone from Verizon Wireless. I was surprised to find out that the applications that I normally use to tether my wireless broadband no longer worked due to a combination of efforts set by Google to patch security holes and Verizon Wireless' modification of the stock rom that was shipped from Motorolla Mobility.
Verizon has modified the stock internal mobile broadband hook in settings and forced it to call a 'Subscription Check' service that requires end users to enroll in a 30$ a month mobile broadband service in addition to their current bill.
While the second part is not new, the first; disabling tethering applications, is.
In 2011 the Free Press filed a complaint with the FCC located here
freepress.net/sites/default/files/fp-legacy/FreePress_CBlock_Complaint.pdf
In this complaint it holds that Verizon Wireless choice and collusion with Google to disable or limit third party tethering apps steering users to their paid server is not only poor business practice but against the fair use of the C block LTE frequency and in the FCC's 2012 ruling found below, they agree.
transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2012/db0731/DOC-315501A1.pdf
The settlement of 1.25 million against Verizon not only solidifies fault, but reinforces the necessity to keeping the use of this frequency open to competition for applications and use.
I feel that the current situation that I am facing also affect other end users and is simply a rehash of the 2011 issue.
I have contacted Verizon and have the recorded messages located here:
Call 1 -REMOVED-
Received email response listed here:
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Call 2 -REMOVED-
Verizon Wireless HQ
Dispute Resolution manager
one Verizon way, VC52S417 Baskin Ridge NJ, 07920-1097
I am looking for advise primarily if I should pursue this issue, if I am off base or if this is something that the FCC has interest in pursuing.
Thanks very much
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Method
This is put together from the droid turbo 2 thread. Works for me on unlimited data.
1. Download "Network Signal Refresher Lite By 8JAPPS"
2. Run the app, Hit the refresh button.
3. Pull down notification drawer, pull down again to get to the quick settings tiles
4. Wait until the Sim card icon changes to the completely empty signal bars icon
5. Hit the hotspot button only once, wait a few seconds it will turn on.
It works for me all the time. Posting from a tethered computer as we speak.
The stock wifi hotspot app work for me on cricket , using moto z force
Drhoot said:
This is put together from the droid turbo 2 thread. Works for me on unlimited data.
1. Download "Network Signal Refresher Lite By 8JAPPS"
2. Run the app, Hit the refresh button.
3. Pull down notification drawer, pull down again to get to the quick settings tiles
4. Wait until the Sim card icon changes to the completely empty signal bars icon
5. Hit the hotspot button only once, wait a few seconds it will turn on.
It works for me all the time. Posting from a tethered computer as we speak.
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Works great thanks [emoji8]
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Works great thanks [emoji8]
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Have you taken/installed the recent software update?...
Trying to cinfirm thart signal refresh native hotapot procedure still works afyer the software update.
Tether Update
Just got my Moto Z Force today WoW!!! this is one motorola mother ship, anyway while we wait for the sunshine miracle, Tether is great with the PDANet app using Bluetooth, Super fast, not like the unfortunate HTC devices that try the same thing (BT is real slow) on the Z, BT is blazing fast, not much different than the Native Hotspot I used on HTC M9. Hey its free so WTF right?
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Have you taken/installed the recent software update?...
Trying to cinfirm thart signal refresh native hotapot procedure still works afyer the software update.
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I am also looking to see if someone has updated and still had it work.
I mean the Network Signal Refresher Lite app. Theres an update but I want to be sure the hotspot workaround still works before I update it.
Hopefully someone sees this and can advise???????
Yup still confirmed working!
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Yup still confirmed working!
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Do you know if the signal refresher hack still works with the MCOS24.104-35-1-9 latest update?
Yes works after update! I just got a surface rt for work and was trying to find a root for t2 but with no luck but this worked!!! Very awesome! I came across the pull sim card out and out back in with little luck everytime I out card back in hotspot would disable. But this did the trick thank you!
Does this work with the nougat update?
Don't want to upgrade if it means losing hotspot.
Kd
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I can't get it to work with the Network Refresh method. Shoot.
Just out of curiosity what is everyone using the mobile hotspot for? I never feel the need to use it, maybe I can offer some alternative insight.
I use it for when other people need wifi, doing homework at the park, my 3DS, very useful if you're traveling. Used it for like two years when I lived alone as my home wifi. Used to sell phones in a store that didn't have wifi and used it to backup and restore stuff for customers. Lots of little uses that add up quickly.