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Has anyone managed to get the XDA Exec to work with a Three sim card.
Looking to use a three card for e-mail and internet, but not sure if it is possible?
It works fine with the 3 network.
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Did you have to change any settings to get e-mail and internet working?
Obviously you need to add a connection for 3.
You'd also need that internet browsing pack from 3 to beable to surf outside of the crap 3 site / get emails.
Whats this about an internet browsing pack????
Does this mean that they will completely drop the walled garden, let you go anywhere? What are there data charged like?
Nigel
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Answered my own question 512MB data pack add-on is £45/mnth. So not cheap then!! Given 3's superior 3G coverage, they have the capability to cleanup on the geek market. But they'll need to do better than min £65/month (min voice+data add-on) to do this, and they'll need to start flogging some decent hardware also!
They dont offer data packages other than the £45/512MB one. I would hope to see a little competition in the UK as things progress such as we get closer to the flat-rate data that those over the pond enjoy!
http://www.three.co.uk/explore/howmuch/addons/adddetail05.omp?cid=1124817787881
Nigel
TBH I just use my 3 sim for calls (I've got it on 3000 off peak x-net before they pulled it!)
I have a T-Mobile sim on web 'n' walk that I use for data, as I get 40mb included with that.
3's data prices to see abit ott if u ask me, but still.
Three acually do 2 different data packages. They are as follows:
£2.50 for 5MB: This allows visiting to selected websites what have been approved by three. You cannot however, use the phone as a modem for a laptop. Not very practical as its still not full access to the net.
£45 a month for 512MB: This allows you to use 512MB of data each month as a modem. You cannot however access sites on your handset with this, only via a laptop with the phone being used as a modem.
Hope that clears everything up. This isnt very practical TBH, but the XDA exec works fine on three, as its shipped unlocked.
That strange 3 site thing don't like the IE browser on the JASJAR either!
It loads up as aload of code!
The 3 music bit kind of works, and if you try to go anywhere normal on the net it moans about needing a internet bundle!
To be honest my main reason was cheap calls and access to pop3 email retreval on the move,
Will this work with a standard phone tariff from 3 ??
johnwx said:
To be honest my main reason was cheap calls and access to pop3 email retreval on the move,
Will this work with a standard phone tariff from 3 ??
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It will, but to enable you to access anything outside of 3's little "world" they love so much (IE your email) you'd need to purchase a web browsing package from 3.
This is what happens if you try to make use of the 3 connection.
OK I've now got a Three Payg SIM card to try out.
I have 3g coverage as indicated by U symbol.
Anyone know the details on how to set up a connection for Three, no details with the card and cannot find any details elsewhere (Search)
Tks
John
johnwx said:
OK I've now got a Three Payg SIM card to try out.
I have 3g coverage as indicated by U symbol.
Anyone know the details on how to set up a connection for Three, no details with the card and cannot find any details elsewhere (Search)
Tks
John
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Modem: Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G)
Access Point: three.co.uk
Leave username and password blank.
OK, I have my Exec set up fine with the 3UK network. The only problem I have is that with my old 6680, it obviously had a 3 ROM on it that was set to roam back to 3's netowrk when available. On the Exec, I notice that once it roams over to O2's 2.5G netowrk, it doesn't roll back. I've even set the network selection to Manual and told it only to use the 3 netowrk form the list of networks available.
It will roll back fine if I click the FIND NETWORK button in teh phone settings, but just wondered if anyone had managed to get it to stay on 3?
Thanks.
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Here's the low-down..
With Sprint AIRAVE™, a winner of the 2008 PC World 25 Most Innovative Products Award, you'll enjoy enhanced wireless service in your home or office — even if there is no coverage. It's like having your own miniature cell tower with a coverage radius of up to 5,000 square feet.
Exclusive to Sprint, AIRAVE will be available for purchase at your nearest Sprint Store on 8/17.
Key Features
Works with any Sprint phone — up to three users at the same time.¹
Installs in minutes with your existing broadband Internet access, such as DSL, cable or T1.
Unlimited incoming and outgoing calls, including nationwide long distance, when using your Sprint phone and initiating your call on the device (requires an AIRAVE unlimited calling plan).**
Automatically transfers calls to the Sprint Nationwide Network once you leave your home or office.²
Limit access to your AIRAVE by creating a list of up to 50 approved Sprint phone numbers.
What You'll Need
Active Sprint phone(s)
Sprint voice plan
Broadband Internet access, such as DSL, cable or T1.
Available Ethernet port — either on your modem or via a router — to connect AIRAVE to your broadband data service.
Available power outlet
Pricing
Sprint AIRAVE Base Station - $99.99/each (requires activation at time of purchase and subscription to an AIRAVE plan. Excludes taxes.)
AIRAVE Enhanced Coverage Charge - $4.99/mo. (required per AIRAVE unit)**
Single Line Unlimited Calling Plan (optional) - $10/mo.**
Multi-Line Unlimited Calling Plan (optional) - $20/mo. per account**
¹Does not work with plans or services operating only on the Nextel Nationwide Network.
²Calls transfer dependent upon sufficient signal from the Sprint Network beyond the range of the AIRAVE Base Station.
Here's the link, what do you all think..?
Let me know, I'd jump on it but just cuz I work for SPRINT don't mean ima jump on everything they sell..
http://www.nextel.com/en/services/airave/index.shtml?id9=vanity:AIRAVE
I think you are spamming....
[Mod Edit: GODZSON has earned some trust with all the skinning he's done on XDA, and eventually this thread proves it was not of commercial intent]
Sounds like UMA... and you spelled wireless wrong
Spam..? LOL
sino8r said:
I think you are spamming....
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LOL .. nah, just cuz I work for Sprint doesnt mean I'll be expecting a nice check to pay me for advertising.. I cud use a couple MIL$$ or 2 MIL$$ to take a nice long vacation and or retire.. feel me. If I wuz getn paid I' cud take payment options it would be 7 c-notes a month and live just fine... Like Dave Chapelle would say "I'M RICH B*TCH!"
P.S. Just showing new coming tech for SPRINT to look forward to.. You have T-Mobile logo on your Sig so that would mean your spamming too right..?
any how, this is a friendly post to those that might answer back with critics on the AIRAVE.
As I stated, I do work for SPRINT and appreciate the nice benefits at work and discounts but I don't get paid to advertise, just wuna know what others may think that are outside the box.. Thanks
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Sounds like UMA... and you spelled wireless wrong
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For those that don't know what UMA is... and Yea I work for a Wireless Carrier and spelled Wireless wrong.. lol
UMA Overview
Unlicensed Mobile Access (UMA) technology provides access to GSM and GPRS mobile services over unlicensed spectrum technologies, including Bluetooth and 802.11. By deploying UMA technology, service providers can enable subscribers to roam and handover between cellular networks and public and private unlicensed wireless networks using dual-mode mobile handsets. With UMA, subscribers receive a consistent user experience for their mobile voice and data services as they transition between networks.
In order to promote the widespread adoption of UMA technology, a number of leading companies within the wireless industry have jointly developed a set of open specifications. These specifications are available through this Web site, and may be used by vendors and carriers of wireless communications systems and applications to develop and deploy interoperable solutions.
In addition to developing and maintaining the initial specifications, the participating companies are actively working with the 3GPP standards organization to use the specifications as the basis for the development of a formal standard.
How UMA Technology Works
1.A mobile subscriber with a UMA-enabled, dual-mode handset moves within range of an unlicensed wireless network to which the handset is allowed to connect
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2.Upon connecting, the handset contacts the UMA Network Controller (UNC) over the broadband IP access network to be authenticated and authorized to access GSM voice and GPRS data services via the unlicensed wireless network.
3.If approved, the subscriber’s current location information stored in the core network is updated, and from that point on all mobile voice and data traffic is routed to the handset via the Unlicensed Mobile Access Network (UMAN) rather than the cellular radio access network (RAN).
4.ROAMING: When a UMA-enabled subscriber moves outside the range of an unlicensed wireless network to which they are connected, the UNC and handset facilitate roaming back to the licensed outdoor network. This roaming process is completely transparent to the subscriber.
5.HANDOVER: If a subscriber is on an active GSM voice call or GPRS data session when they come within range (or out of range) of an unlicensed wireless network, that voice call or data session can automatically handover between access networks with no discernable service interruption. Handovers are completely transparent to the subscriber.
Believe it or not I don't think your spamming!! I think this is good information to know. Developing and Hacking is the wrong place for it not matter what the excuse... But it is great information. I wish more carriers had this kind of technology.
Doesn't work right with WM phones. Causes the phone to periodically wake up and hurts the battery life. I've had one for about 8 months and stopped using it after 1 month.
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Doesn't work right with WM phones. Causes the phone to periodically wake up and hurts the battery life. I've had one for about 8 months and stopped using it after 1 month.
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really, wow, i really was looking forward to this until you mention this. is it a known issue that might someday be fixed?
nonegiven said:
Doesn't work right with WM phones. Causes the phone to periodically wake up and hurts the battery life. I've had one for about 8 months and stopped using it after 1 month.
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I don't know what might cause this, but it might be on your phone and not with the unit itself. I hope you tried a different rom/radio combination before giving up.
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I don't know what might cause this, but it might be on your phone and not with the unit itself. I hope you tried a different rom/radio combination before giving up.
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I've tried multiple ROMs on various models of WM phones. My reception is decent without the unit, I just got it because it was free.
nonegiven said:
Doesn't work right with WM phones. Causes the phone to periodically wake up and hurts the battery life. I've had one for about 8 months and stopped using it after 1 month.
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Hmm, who's ur provider? The Airave has been testedto work with all SPRINT phones including WM phones.
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Hmm, who's ur provider? The Airave has been testedto work with all SPRINT phones including WM phones.
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Obviously Sprint. Technically, the Airave works with WM phones as long as you don't mind them waking up constantly.
Well if it's not spam it's Networking
I think GODZSON just wants an honoust discussion about this.
Nonegiven airave works with and Sprint device and would not wake your WM device, but other software you have loaded might. Where did you get yours, you say you have had it for 8 months? And aad4321 yes T-Mobile has a similar product but its device specific.
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Nonegiven airave works with and Sprint device and would not wake your WM device, but other software you have loaded might. Where did you get yours, you say you have had it for 8 months? And aad4321 yes T-Mobile has a similar product but its device specific.
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You have no idea what you're talking about. I got mine in October of last year and have used it with various WM phones with custom ROMs and freshly-installed stock ROMs.
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You have no idea what you're talking about.
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Really, I will P.M. you my cell # and we can compare notes
halfdriven said:
Really, I will P.M. you my cell # and we can compare notes
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Go for it. Every single WM device had the same problem which never bothered the Palm 755p that I also tested with it.
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Go for it. Every single WM device had the same problem which never bothered the Palm 755p that I also tested with it.
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I'm getting a LOT better battery life on my Q9c using the Airave. Before, I was 0-1 bars of service.
The only "wakeup" I've seen is switching from EVDO to 1X and back, but my phone did that before.
Still haven't heard from halfdriven.
A question to all specifically those with the t-mobile tab. I am wondering if any if you can use either the internet or maps while on a call? I have noticed that i can not, i loose edge even though i have some bars, see the picture bellow:
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Once i end the call i get the Edge symbol back.
Any way to be able to use both? What if i need to look for directions while on a call? The only option i have is to disconnect the call then launch maps, get the directions then call the person back. The same thing if i want to look up something online while on a call.
I had the same issue when i was using my Vibrant, and never got it to work.
Any suggestions, or is this not possible?
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As far as I remember, Tmobile has never offered voice + data simultaneously on their 3G network. One of the very very few perks of having the evil AT&T overlords.
adinis78 said:
Any suggestions, or is this not possible?
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No, it's not possible.
EDGE is still 2G, and you can't use 2G data and voice simultaneously.
You need 3G to have voice and data simultaneously, and that currently isn't possible with a T-Mo US Tab.
Regards,
Dave
agentdr8 said:
As far as I remember, Tmobile has never offered voice + data simultaneously on their 3G network. One of the very very few perks of having the evil AT&T overlords.
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thank you, but im still sticking with tmo..lol!!!
foxmeister said:
No, it's not possible.
EDGE is still 2G, and you can't use 2G data and voice simultaneously.
You need 3G to have voice and data simultaneously, and that currently isn't possible with a T-Mo US Tab.
Regards,
Dave
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thanks, but the previous member stated it can not be done even if running 3g+voice, i have the Vibrant and was never able to do so, if i had full 3g and got a call i would loose the 3g symbol and could not use the internet or google maps only after i ended the call i could.
this is such a bummer but i have dealt with it so far so i guess not that big of a deal.
It shouldn't prevent you from using voice + wifi though, so you could use your Vibrant as a mifi and share it out that way.
agentdr8 said:
It shouldn't prevent you from using voice + wifi though, so you could use your Vibrant as a mifi and share it out that way.
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that would be an option but then i would be needing 2 devices.
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its vice versa, whenever i'm on net mode, message or calls is getting a hard time to get through
been guesing that its the same 2g that causing it, but my colleague getting them just fine using blackberry
is it only android?
is RIM using a different band so voice and data can get side by side?
fyi, all of my colleague only getting 2g too (edge/gprs) coz we're on the same remote area
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thanks, but the previous member stated it can not be done even if running 3g+voice, i have the Vibrant and was never able to do so, if i had full 3g and got a call i would loose the 3g symbol and could not use the internet or google maps only after i ended the call i could.
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I find it very hard to believe that TMo US don't support simultaneous voice and data whilst on 3G! It would be pretty retarded if true.
Here's a thread concerning this issue where a Nexus One owner confirms they gets simultaneous voice and data on their phone if they are in 3G coverage.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
I find it very hard to believe that TMo US don't support simultaneous voice and data whilst on 3G! It would be pretty retarded if true.
Here's a thread concerning this issue where a Nexus One owner confirms they gets simultaneous voice and data on their phone if they are in 3G coverage.
Regards,
Dave
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That's completely correct. T-Mobile's 3G network allows for both voice and data at the same time. I've had this since my G1 and all my other 3G phones up to and including the myTouch 4G I'm using now. AT&T allows for this as well, while the CDMA networks (Verizon and Sprint) technically could, but haven't sold devices that allow for it that I'm aware of (likely waiting for full 4G rollouts instead).
The problem you're likely having is that, as long as you're on EDGE the data portion WILL drop, and once the IP drops the little E will go with it. It will bring up the data connection again once voice is cleared. This is why long downloads over EDGE can result in getting voicemails on occasion, as the call might not ring through even though you had max bars.
Thank you, I am glad someone had the sense to post the right info. It is annoying when people post information and they have no idea what they are talking about. If we ever get a modem that works with 3g and Voice then YES they will both work at the same time. Even a non 3G ATT phone will NOT be able to do voice/data at the same time. It is simply a limitation of the GSM architecture.
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That's completely correct. T-Mobile's 3G network allows for both voice and data at the same time. I've had this since my G1 and all my other 3G phones up to and including the myTouch 4G I'm using now. AT&T allows for this as well, while the CDMA networks (Verizon and Sprint) technically could, but haven't sold devices that allow for it that I'm aware of (likely waiting for full 4G rollouts instead).
The problem you're likely having is that, as long as you're on EDGE the data portion WILL drop, and once the IP drops the little E will go with it. It will bring up the data connection again once voice is cleared. This is why long downloads over EDGE can result in getting voicemails on occasion, as the call might not ring through even though you had max bars.
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The weird thing is that when i had my Vibrant i was having the same issue, i could have full 3g service but i could not do anything while on a call ex.maps, internet, very strange.
Just hope someone can find a modem that will allow the tab to have full 3g+voice.
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adinis78 said:
The weird thing is that when i had my Vibrant i was having the same issue, i could have full 3g service but i could not do anything while on a call ex.maps, internet, very strange.
Just hope someone can find a modem that will allow the tab to have full 3g+voice.
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That is strange, as my friend's Vibrant works fine doing both in 3G. You've never received an IM or eMail notification during a phone call?
just tested 3g data plus voice call on my vibrant, worked just fine. fast data too...
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This is why long downloads over EDGE can result in getting voicemails on occasion, as the call might not ring through even though you had max bars.
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Technically, even on 2G, the networks can prioritise voice over date, so that if a voice call comes in whilst you're on 2G data, the data will pause to allow the voice call to continues.
However, all the networks that I've ever user don't support this, though I'm sure many do.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Technically, even on 2G, the networks can prioritise voice over date, so that if a voice call comes in whilst you're on 2G data, the data will pause to allow the voice call to continues.
However, all the networks that I've ever user don't support this, though I'm sure many do.
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Dave
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Yep, which is why that stands out in my mind as an annoyance. But since I leave the phone alone for the most part while I use my Tab, it isn't much of an issue anymore.
MY\t-mobile.com and does not let me browse the web.
Installed "GScript Lite" and BusyBox --> Extracted modemswitch.zip --> Copy /sdcard/modemswitch/switch.sh to the /sdcard/gscript/ directory--> "Add Script", --> select switch.sh--> saved.
Tried this from GScriptLite: switch
Rotohammer's Modem Switcher
Current modem=yyyyyyy
Flashing files ...
Switching to Phone/2G
The Tab never reboots and it doesn't switches to 3G. It returns back to GScriptLite. Switcher is on Edge --> my browser takes me directly to MY\t-mobile.com and does not let me browse the web. Did I miss something?
Model:GT-P1000
Baseband ver: P1000XXJHA
Kernel ver: 2.6.32.9 ( [email protected]#1)
Build number: FROYO.XXJMA
Network : T mobile
Disregard poat
I sometimes use wired and WIFI tethering from my focus when my internet goes out. Well today I got an email stating that I have to change my unlimited data plan to a tethering plan with 4gb of data if I want to continue tethering. If I continue without changing the plan it states they will change it without my consent. Now none of this crap makes sense, I have an unlimited plan so I should be able to chose what I want to use it for. I was wondering is there a way for ATT not to know I'm tethering from my phone?
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I sometimes use wired and WIFI tethering from my focus when my internet goes out. Well today I got an email stating that I have to change my unlimited data plan to a tethering plan with 4gb of data if I want to continue tethering. If I continue without changing the plan it states they will change it without my consent. Now none of this crap makes sense, I have an unlimited plan so I should be able to chose what I want to use it for. I was wondering is there a way for ATT not to know I'm tethering from my phone?
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Oh and here's how much data I used last month 804.27 MB.
I just got this email too, as well as a text saying i'm in the top 5% of data users and they'll start throttling my speed for the rest of the month whenever I get to 5%. Yes I do tether, and I don't really want to stop. If there was an option to add just a tethering feature to my account I would consider it, but the only option is to downgrade from my unlimited data plan to a 4GB plan that would allow tethering. Pretty damn lame.
Does anyone know how they know you're tethering? I've used wired tethering since I got my Focus in January and never had an issue. I tried the wifi hotspot option for maybe half an hour, which was a couple weeks ago when that hack first became available. I know the iPhone users who were using wifi hotspot app were getting caught a couple months ago. I'm just trying to figure out if it makes any difference if I use it wired or hotspot? Is wired safer or can they just tell either way? It's also speculated they check browser user agent strings, which could be spoofed though. So is there any way to get around this and continue tethering?
I am going through the same thing on my captivate with GB rom on it. The problem (based on the research i have been able to do) is that the phone uses a different APN to connect to Att's network when tethering. I am trying to find a hack or a mod that would use the same APN as the phone... but I am having no luck.
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I am going through the same thing on my captivate with GB rom on it. The problem (based on the research i have been able to do) is that the phone uses a different APN to connect to Att's network when tethering. I am trying to find a hack or a mod that would use the same APN as the phone... but I am having no luck.
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iPhone users that were using the MyWi app were getting the same message about tethering. The developers of MyWi said this on twitter:
"MyWi has always used the primary APN (the same as Safari/Mail/etc). All data is on one connection."
So it must be more than the APN.
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I just got this email too, as well as a text saying i'm in the top 5% of data users and they'll start throttling my speed for the rest of the month whenever I get to 5%. Yes I do tether, and I don't really want to stop. If there was an option to add just a tethering feature to my account I would consider it, but the only option is to downgrade from my unlimited data plan to a 4GB plan that would allow tethering. Pretty damn lame.
Does anyone know how they know you're tethering? I've used wired tethering since I got my Focus in January and never had an issue. I tried the wifi hotspot option for maybe half an hour, which was a couple weeks ago when that hack first became available. I know the iPhone users who were using wifi hotspot app were getting caught a couple months ago. I'm just trying to figure out if it makes any difference if I use it wired or hotspot? Is wired safer or can they just tell either way? It's also speculated they check browser user agent strings, which could be spoofed though. So is there any way to get around this and continue tethering?
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How much data are you using? I'm using around 3-4GB's a month and have not received an email yet.
Seed 2.0 said:
How much data are you using? I'm using around 3-4GB's a month and have not received an email yet.
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just wait and u might since I barely use a gig and I got it :/
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How much data are you using? I'm using around 3-4GB's a month and have not received an email yet.
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And I'm currently over 10gb for the current billing cycle which ends in a few days.
AT&T can tell if you're tethering by analyzing packet data. Mobile devices and desktop/laptop computers can be easily distingueshed.
I got the ssame message today and i used only 200mb from my unkimited data plan on my focus this month so far, and in avergae below 2gb monthly. Funny part, no where in their agreement they mention that they will sniff your data packets, which they seem to do lately. There is no other way for them to know what are you doing with your phone, the internet sharing uses exactly the same APN on these phones. I replied to the message with a pure "F..CK OFF" and guess what, you get right away a reply saying that I opted out of their marketing text messaging. All they do at this time, unless you use gigs of data they just send advertisment spam text to all smartphone users to get them on tethering plans, they don't have any real proof of anything at this time if you do or not tethering. You can call them and they will tell you the same thing. I just did that too.
I did the same thing, I kept demanding to see the evidence against me and she said it belongs to ATT lol. SO back to the original question. Has anyone found a way to make them not know we're tethering?
You should read this, and also understand that if they start doing packet analysis, they will find out you're tethering pretty easily.
You can test this easily by capturing all packets from a shared wireless adapter (for example with Connectify) yourselves.
Also, from what I read in AT&Ts Wireless Customer agreement, they can do whatever they want: "We may change any terms, conditions, rates, fees, expenses, or charges regarding your Services at any time". Also, the Acceptable Use Policy says: "However, AT&T may monitor content of any such materials as necessary to comply with applicable laws, regulations or other governmental or judicial requests; or to protect the AT&T network and its customers.".
Btw, I don't live in US and the above was pretty easy to find; it proves that people don't read their contracts. Calling them and asking for proof might work if they "guessed" now, but next time be sure they'll have something.
I'm done with ATT, I received the text message saying that they detected tethering and they automatically switched my unlimited data plan to the new $50/5GB with tethering. I switched yesterday to straight talk, and my Samsung Focus works exactly as before, now for only $45/month, unlimited everything.
dendron said:
I'm done with ATT, I received the text message saying that they detected tethering and they automatically switched my unlimited data plan to the new $50/5GB with tethering. I switched yesterday to straight talk, and my Samsung Focus works exactly as before, now for only $45/month, unlimited everything.
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Your Focus works with Straight Talk?
Fiberop said:
Your Focus works with Straight Talk?
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yes, just add the apn: att.mvno, get the 45 dollars unlimited prepaid and you're good to go, it's time to show att the finger.
www.straighttalksim.com
dendron said:
yes, just add the apn: att.mvno, get the 45 dollars unlimited prepaid and you're good to go, it's time to show att the finger.
www.straighttalksim.com
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Thanks I appreciate the information. That might be an option when my contract is up this year.
dendron said:
I'm done with ATT, I received the text message saying that they detected tethering and they automatically switched my unlimited data plan to the new $50/5GB with tethering. I switched yesterday to straight talk, and my Samsung Focus works exactly as before, now for only $45/month, unlimited everything.
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how much data do you use a month
I myself am concedering straight talk, but i need to know if tethering will boot me off straigt talk, thanks
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AT&T can tell if you're tethering by analyzing packet data. Mobile devices and desktop/laptop computers can be easily distingueshed.
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I only tethered with my Android Tablet and I got the notice. I don't think that's what they're doing.
First, a little bit about me that lead to how I came across this...
I work in the electronics department of a retail store, and when the days get slow I like to tether my G2 to the wifi enabled tv's and watch netflix with coworkers. I do this on almost a daily basis and burns through A LOT of data.
Of course after a few days I get the text message from T-Mobile after I get through my 5GB of (fake) unlimited data and will be slowed for the remainder of this billing cycle... This normally results in my downstream speeds going to a trickle of 7kb/s as apposed to my uncapped speeds of anywhere from 300kb/s to 1400kb/s.
So I have another job that I work on the days off sometimes and it's running deliveries. I use the navigation app to get to where ever it may be for work and sometimes my GPS doesn't like to locate me right away. When this happens at work, I start to panic (I don't know my way around town for sh*t) and try every solution on hand I can think of. I tried fixing permissions then network operator selections and eventually the GPS will locate me function just fine.
So I have never hit my cap while working my part time job doing deliveries, and have never really used the navigation app until I started working there and this is how I came across this uncapping of my data while trying to fix my gps, I went into wireless & network settings, then mobile networks, and select network operators, it does some searching for a bit then gives me the option for AT&T or T-Mobile, (I always just do select automatically) and after doing this, my data speeds return to normal... like I am still getting downloads at 600kb/s+.
According to the T-mobile "my account" app, I am at 7.26GB for this month.
(I will upload screens in a second for the naysayers)
Something about this network operator selection thing has the ability to unthrottle me everytime I go over my data. Not sure what actually happens behind the screens when I do this method but just thought I'd share in hopes that it may provide some help to others in a possible loop hole to the (fake) unlimited data issue a lot of us run into.
P.S. Noticed that the speedtest app always thinks I'm in Dallas TX every time I do the network operator unthrottle thing, when I actually live in the Chicago IL area.
Wow, this seems like a great find. finally we can maintain full speed over the month. Gonna definitely give this a try once my speed gets throttled. Thanks!
Just for safe measures before people start saying it's not working, I'd like to just make it known that I am currently running on CyanogenMod-7.1.0-RC1-vision and using 2.6.35.13-UmaroV1.06+ kernel. Radio-26.03.02.26_M. Dunno if that affects anything in this department lol.
Also one thing I've noticed and forgot to mention...If I connect to a wifi network, once I have disconnected from it, my speeds are throttled again but doing the operator selection unthrottles it. This is the only thing I've noticed that reactivates the throttle but is still fixed in a matter of minutes.
Ill test this once I finish download battlefield 3 though I dont think Ill hit 5gb once done. Probably need another 1GB or so.
BTW to save data from navigating, you can enable a feature in Google Maps 'labs' to allow caching map data. After enabling it, long press on a location and tell it to cache, it'll then download a 10 square mile radius of that point and save it to your SDcard (you can cache multiple areas). Then it won't cost you data next time you load that map
Anyways, interesting find! I wonder if its because it kinda... re-registers your phone on the network, and you get a new address / spot on the network? Idk... I've only hit my 5gb once and I wasn't capped so I can't really check this often.
My guess is that Tmobile servers learned your usage statistic including your location, amount of data consumed, most connected APNs nearby and usage schedule. They then use those factors to throttle/filter the APN you are connected to the most. But once you "refresh" the apn list or the cache on your phone by searching for network operators, your phone is no longer "blacklisted"
But that is just my theory.
@martonikaj
OMG that will be sooo incredibly useful. Thank you!!!
EDIT: Here's screens to show that it's no bs
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"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Wow, now im really hoping thisll work. EA and their stupid Origin errored out again. Lost a gig of data.
dietotherhythm said:
@martonikaj
OMG that will be sooo incredibly useful. Thank you!!!
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yep. I use map caching a lot when I'm going to be driving to/through like a rural area or a state park or something and I want a map, but won't have 3G (or even EDGE).
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How did you get the My Account app working? This is what mine looks like
And when I press Menu > About it says Unsupported Device
I just downloaded it from the market. You're on tmobile right?
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I just downloaded it from the market. You're on tmobile right?
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Yes, I'm on T-Mobile. But I'm on CM7 like you are, and CM7 already includes the app. Is downloading it from the market the only way to get it to work?
I just downloaded it from market. Don't think it was there when I installed CM7.
Yeah, we known about this for a while. Same thing happens when you switch apns (wap.voicestream.com for example). It just changes your ip on the network and will last for several hours or until you reboot. Its temporary but works good enough. Too bad my old one doesn't work anymore. Its all controlled server side now.
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Yes, I'm on T-Mobile. But I'm on CM7 like you are, and CM7 already includes the app. Is downloading it from the market the only way to get it to work?
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In the build.prop in /system, with any text editor, you just need to change this:
ro.product.model=HTC Vision
ro.product.brand=vision (or whatever it says here)
to this:
ro.product.model=T-Mobile G2
ro.product.brand=tmobile
That's it. Reboot and it'll work just fine. I change it every time I update ROMs on CM.
The way I understood this: Once Throttled simply navigate to network operator settings and select your standard operator or reset your apn settings and you will at least for a certain limited time have unthrottled data?
At least as far as Berlin, Germany, network operator O2 goes: I cannot confirm that this actually works. (HTC Desire Z, latest Bulletproof MIUI rom).
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In the build.prop in /system, with any text editor, you just need to change this:
ro.product.model=HTC Vision
ro.product.brand=vision (or whatever it says here)
to this:
ro.product.model=T-Mobile G2
ro.product.brand=tmobile
That's it. Reboot and it'll work just fine. I change it every time I update ROMs on CM.
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Mine works on CM7 without editing build.prop about 90% of the time. Kinda weird people seem to have different results.
thomas_wlc said:
The way I understood this: Once Throttled simply navigate to network operator settings and select your standard operator or reset your apn settings and you will at least for a certain limited time have unthrottled data?
At least as far as Berlin, Germany, network operator O2 goes: I cannot confirm that this actually works. (HTC Desire Z, latest Bulletproof MIUI rom).
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That's what I've been doing and it works great. Might just be a loop in the T-Mobile networks but I thought I'd share in case it wasn't brought to anyone's attention
Just to be sure I went for the latest nightly and tried again.
Made sure that I got new ip's. But still nothing. I guess that o2 germany simply handles throttling differently.
Thanks for sharing though, would've been nice if it worked.
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This didnt work for me. Im using MIUI Bulletproof ROM.
Although, right around the same time this thread was made, I went over the cap and still had full data speeds. It lasted 4-5 days I think.
I hit around 6.5 GB before I was finally throttled and that was around the end of Oct/beginning of Nov.