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After reading all the stories, lots of comments on blogs and forums, I have had enough of the BS about how $530 is over priced and way too much and blah blah blah. You guys want the latest and greatest but aren't willing to pay any more than $5 for it.
Every single phone worth money for years has had an unsubsidized price of at least $550 with a few exceptions of course (G1 is only $400, but it is a generation old hardware). An iPhone 3GS 32gb retails for $699 straight up. The HTC HD2 is $899 on Amazon. Good phones aren't cheap as I am sure a lot of you know. So in this respect, $530 is actually a pretty good deal; especially when you compare it to the HD2 which has the same processor and similar hardware. You are getting a next-gen phone with the best screen to ever be on a phone, double the ram of most high end phones, and double the resolution of most high end phones. You expected the best of the best to be cheap? Pfft...
Also, my current T-Mobile plan is superior to what is going to be offered. It will be cheaper and easier in the long run to just buy the phone straight up.
What I am seeing from people is they see $530 and freak the hell out because they have the $180 to compare it against. Sure, there is a big difference there, but you are locked in to a contract for 2 years. $80 * 24 months + $180 = $2100 over 2 years! AND you only have 500 minutes. If you bought the phone straight up and went with Even More Plus for $80/mo, you get unlimited everything. $80 * 24 months + $530 = $2450. Yes, this is more expensive, HOWEVER, how many times will you go over your 500 minutes in the next 2 years? If this is not a problem for you, by all means, go right ahead and get the contract deal since it suits you. But for me, and I suspect most people, 500 minutes is not enough. For the additional $350 over 2 years, or $14.58 and change every month, it is worth having those unlimited minutes.
Does anybody else agree with me on this? All of my phone junkies I talk to agree that $530 is reasonable. Sure, we all would love a less expensive phone, but lets get real here...
Oh, and if this "leak" turns out to be false, than what an awesome waste of time and all of this is moot! LOL
Agree with you on this. My current plan is dirt cheep for unlimited data and no 2 year contract, so I'll shell out the $530 if that's all official after the 5th!
people are trippin over $530 for a phone like this? I paid $550 for my unlocked fuze last year, $800 for unbranded touch pro 2 in April, unlocked motorola droid(milestone) is $800! Al least this phone has some kind of US 3G support, unlike most unbranded phones that come state side. I think I'm a get it day 1, and then get the Bravo when it come out later this year if Sense UI cant be import on the Nexus.
I agree with you guys wholeheartedly. To be honest though, I think it's most telling to compare plans in an apples to apples manner. I'm a dork with a background in finance, so yes, I created a spreadsheet to calculate all the costs incrementally to see where changes in costs were coming from in my comparison.
After running through the numbers and calculating total costs over a 24 month term, for the 500 minute EM and EM+ plans, with the respective phone costs, the total cost over 24 months if I bought the phone unlocked would be $1970. If I purchased it on contract for $180, the total I'd spend over 24 months would be $2100.
There's NO WAY that you'll spend more over the long term with the EM+ plan UNLESS you're eligible for a corporate discount on the EM plan (which I happily am). With my discount, the total for the EM plan comes to $1811, but that doesn't apply to everyone.
The problem here is that most people are spoiled by the subsidized prices of phones. What they're not realizing is that they're paying for that subsidy in the form of more expensive plans...and then some, as my illustration above clearly proves. If T-mobile allows us to finance unsubsidized phones for 20 months on EM+ plans, then this works out to be more manageable for consumers. Either way, though... people need to consider total cost of ownership (TCO)... not just monthly cost and initial cash outlay for the device.
Exactly! Thanks for doing that. People just don't look for future savings and would rather have instant gratification. They are excited by a cheap up front cost and monthly service fee be damned!
I totally agree with you. it is by far the best phone in terms of specifications and price compared to its competitors (iphone 3gs, HD2).
Thanks for explaining this to people.
T-Mo Unlimited Voice/Web/Text $79.99/mo x 24 months = $1,920
Phone: $530.00
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Total: $2,450.00
IPhone Plan
AT&T Unlimited Voice/Web/Text $149.99/mo for 24 months = $3,600
Phone: $200.00
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Total: $3,800.00
-No contract for the T-Mobile plan
-No texts? AT&T without any text message plan still comes to $3,320
I was hoping for unlocked-only availability. It would keep certain... um... people... from buying the phone and then flooding the forums with questions, tacky themes, etc.
Dont really care about the price. It's actually not too bad, but if they only offer a 3g for Tmobile version here in the states then why bother selling it from google? Now...if they offer a few versions that can do 3g on several of the networks, or the final device gives us 3g on AT&T and Tmobile (and perhaps they do a verizon version too!)...that would be an awesome sale.
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Dont really care about the price. It's actually not too bad, but if they only offer a 3g for Tmobile version here in the states then why bother selling it from google? Now...if they offer a few versions that can do 3g on several of the networks, or the final device gives us 3g on AT&T and Tmobile (and perhaps they do a verizon version too!)...that would be an awesome sale.
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I imagine that Google will be releasing high-end phones for all carriers this year. I think they started with T-mobile for a variety of possible reasons. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that they felt that T-mo should get preference because they were the first carrier to carry the Android torch to market. I also wouldn't be surprised if Google had planned this all along and that T-mobile was promised to get the first "Google phone". Obviously this is all conjecture, but it makes sense from a business perspective.
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I imagine that Google will be releasing high-end phones for all carriers this year. I think they started with T-mobile for a variety of possible reasons. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that they felt that T-mo should get preference because they were the first carrier to carry the Android torch to market. I also wouldn't be surprised if Google had planned this all along and that T-mobile was promised to get the first "Google phone". Obviously this is all conjecture, but it makes sense from a business perspective.
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But the problem with getting the first of anything is it will be ancient by the time other carriers receive their Android devices
Not necessarily. Given the specs of this phone, I can't see it becoming obsolete as quickly as the G1 did. I could be wrong, but how soon would you think a phone would come out with over 1ghz processor and over 512 ram and rom?
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Not necessarily. Given the specs of this phone, I can't see it becoming obsolete as quickly as the G1 did. I could be wrong, but how soon would you think a phone would come out with over 1ghz processor and over 512 ram and rom?
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Aren't there already two other snapdragon devices out? What about the rumors of another iphone being released later this year?
I think the g1 may have been just as big when it came out. Times change, so does technology. The N1 may seem like the hottest new device, but it's the Nexus ONE just as the Dream was the Gee ONE. Look at where we are now. With at least half a dozen android capable devices out in about a year and 50+ rumored by 2012.
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Aren't there already two other snapdragon devices out? What about the rumors of another iphone being released later this year?
I think the g1 may have been just as big when it came out. Times change, so does technology. The N1 may seem like the hottest new device, but it's the Nexus ONE just as the Dream was the Gee ONE. Look at where we are now. With at least half a dozen android capable devices out in about a year and 50+ rumored by 2012.
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Your points are well taken. No one's saying that this is THE ultimate phone of all time. It's simply the greatest Android phone to be released yet, and based on its specs, it seems to be a very significant advance forward in hardware as compared to other devices, aside from Droid.
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Your points are well taken. No one's saying that this is THE ultimate phone of all time. It's simply the greatest Android phone to be released yet, and based on its specs, it seems to be a very significant advance forward in hardware as compared to other devices, aside from Droid.
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Before the Droid all the Android devices were mostly similar (form factor, screen resolution/size, cpu, etc). This is just like the Droid. It was supposed to be the greatest Android device until the next phone showed up a few months later. How do we know a device with similar or better specs won't show up soon? HTC's leaked roadmap has a lot of impressive devices scheduled for this year.
The marketplace is only going to fragment even more Developers aren't happy coding for all these different devices.
IDK if you all are missing the point or if maybe im just redirecting it but here goes
This does not fit into how google normally does things. Correct me if im wrong but the formula usually goes
Take good service/software and make it better + dirt cheap or free+data mining = profit$$
If they aren't subsidizing any of the cost, why should we let them have our data?
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people are trippin over $530 for a phone like this? I paid $550 for my unlocked fuze last year, $800 for unbranded touch pro 2 in April, unlocked motorola droid(milestone) is $800! Al least this phone has some kind of US 3G support, unlike most unbranded phones that come state side. I think I'm a get it day 1, and then get the Bravo when it come out later this year if Sense UI cant be import on the Nexus.
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I am fully agree with your statement that at least this phone has some sort of US 3G support which many unlocked phones lacked or manufacturers are too slow to release the US 3G version (read: Nokia N95 NAM edition).
I think this angry attitude is a manifestation of our credit-driven lifestyle. Many people don't realize that paying cheaper price for a phone alongside mandatory 2 years contract (and ETFs if we decided to cancel) is more expensive. Even if they do, the fact that they can OWN the product NOW (regardless whether you can afford the whole price or not) is what makes it desirable in this part of the world.
Regarding the fact that it doesn't support AT&T 3G bands, well suck it up because iPhone didn't support T-Mobile 3G either and I'm sure there are many Tmob subscribers are interested to get that capabilities too. Until US cleared up these 3G band fragmentation (which probably won't happen), we are at the mercy of these manufacturers to step up their game and put in Quad Band UMTS as opposed to cherry picking 3 UMTS bands to be put into their phones.
Only thing making me think twice is when will a keyboard version of the hardware come out.
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Only thing making me think twice is when will a keyboard version of the hardware come out.
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The keyboard phone with these specs would be the next G1, most likely to come out just in time for the early G1 adopters to renew their contracts.
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I agree with you guys wholeheartedly. To be honest though, I think it's most telling to compare plans in an apples to apples manner. I'm a dork with a background in finance, so yes, I created a spreadsheet to calculate all the costs incrementally to see where changes in costs were coming from in my comparison.
After running through the numbers and calculating total costs over a 24 month term, for the 500 minute EM and EM+ plans, with the respective phone costs, the total cost over 24 months if I bought the phone unlocked would be $1970. If I purchased it on contract for $180, the total I'd spend over 24 months would be $2100.
There's NO WAY that you'll spend more over the long term with the EM+ plan UNLESS you're eligible for a corporate discount on the EM plan (which I happily am). With my discount, the total for the EM plan comes to $1811, but that doesn't apply to everyone.
The problem here is that most people are spoiled by the subsidized prices of phones. What they're not realizing is that they're paying for that subsidy in the form of more expensive plans...and then some, as my illustration above clearly proves. If T-mobile allows us to finance unsubsidized phones for 20 months on EM+ plans, then this works out to be more manageable for consumers. Either way, though... people need to consider total cost of ownership (TCO)... not just monthly cost and initial cash outlay for the device.
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Expanding on this and assuming no discounts...
Option A) Buy the phone for $180 subsidized and the 500-minute plan for $80/mo, signing a contract to pay $2100 total over 24 mos.
Option B) Buy the phone for $530 unsubsidized and unlocked and choose the comparable 500-minute plus unlimited text/data Even More Plus plan for $60/mo for a total cost of $1970 over 24 mos with no contract.
So over two years of the phone and contract, you save $130 by going with option B.
But will you really last two years? Let's see what happens if you want to change phones after one year, which is entirely possible given the rate at which mobile technology is moving.
Option A) Early reports indicate a $350 early termination fee imposed by T-Mobile during the first 120 days, but no details have been learned about the fee past that window. Let's assume it reduces linearly to zero over the remaining life of the contract, meaning your fee for leaving early would be $210 at the one year mark. This puts you at $1350 to get out free and clear from the phone and contract.
Option B) You have no ETF, so you'll have paid $1250 at the end of one year.
So, even after just a year you still spend $100 less buying unsubsidized. Further, your phone will already be unlocked and unbranded, ready for quick sale on E-bay.
Pretty simple choice for me. Less money & easy to move on = no-brainer.
So I went to the t-mobile store in Seattle, WA. I asked to see the HD2 demo model and they happily obliged. As I began look at all the neat features the HD2 had to offer, the kind rep told me that in about 15 months or so, they will be releasing phones that make the HD2 look obsolete! That made me ponder if I should get a 2-year contract (even more) with the HD2 or go no contract (even more plus). What do you guys suggest?
Also I think in about 15 months, that sounds like when new Windows Phone 7 Series phones are being released that will be using t-mobile's new network broadband speeds of up to 21 mbps!
Hmm, that doesn't phase me, I will still have this device running and I will probably be eligible for an early upgrade.
well in 15 months, when these new phones are released, another rep will be telling you that in 10 months there will be other phones that will make those phones obsolete. the point is, its an endless loop. also, i would google "WP7 cons" and keep those things in mind.
nice.. i'm seattle as well.. i'm gonna get the contract price.. and if a new phone comes out that is comparable to the hd3.. then yea i'll buy it at full price... either way..
i personally think that a phone "lifespan" is about 1 year anyways.. so that info that the rep told you.. was kinda common knowledge....
the way that technology moves forward...ESPECIALLY with mobile phones.. its no surprise if a phone comes out in 6 months that will surpass the hd2...
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So I went to the t-mobile store in Seattle, WA. I asked to see the HD2 demo model and they happily obliged. As I began look at all the neat features the HD2 had to offer, the kind rep told me that in about 15 months or so, they will be releasing phones that make the HD2 look obsolete! That made me ponder if I should get a 2-year contract (even more) with the HD2 or go no contract (even more plus). What do you guys suggest?
Also I think in about 15 months, that sounds like when new Windows Phone 7 Series phones are being released that will be using t-mobile's new network broadband speeds of up to 21 mbps!
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The t-mobile rep was probably just spewing sales fluff out of his mouth. Most of them don't really know anything.
Saying that the HD2 will be obsolete in 15 months is like saying the sky will be blue. I mean, the HD2 makes phones that were released 15 months ago obsolete. Mobile technology is advancing at the rate that PC's were in the late 90's, early 2000's....mostly because mobile technology is right around the level of PC technology in those days.
The point is, obsolescence is a a real quick inevitability when it comes to mobile devices....especially if you're the type to care about having the best technology. This makes a 2 year contract that much bigger of a commitment. T-mobile was wise in pricing the HD2 at 200 bucks for a 2 year contact though. The price is right for me, knowing that in about a year, I'll probably be replacing it to a WP7 capable phone with an AMOLED screen. At that point I wouldn't mind spending 500 or so on a device that will probably last me another 2-3 years....maybe less if I qualify for a partial early upgrade discount.
But it really is something to consider.
No contract price of course.
It's only $450. I may buy it in a week or two after it's released.
Hi there.
I've been lurking here for a while but I haven't posted anything until now.
I signed up for a T-Mobile G2 Touch contract on Sunday, and while the guy was going through the procedures for setting it up, he was telling me how awesome the Android OS is (which I already knew, having a G1 and all,) and he happened to mention they'll be launching a "huge update" at some point within the next few weeks.
If he's for real, this is some pretty sweet news, since it coincides with the leaked update schedule.
Strongly suggest you use your 14 day cooling off period to return the Hero and pick up a Desire instead. Infinitely better phone - don't forget that the Hero is nearly a year old now.
maybe he got a really good contract deal? the desire will be at the highest tariff possible and will probably be for 2 years.
David Horn said:
Strongly suggest you use your 14 day cooling off period to return the Hero and pick up a Desire instead. Infinitely better phone - don't forget that the Hero is nearly a year old now.
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I second that! If I was taking out a new contract now, the Desire would definitely be the way to go,... But as PulpzillA said, if your getting a deal you cant say no to with the Hero you can always sell a few months down the line.
Just make sure you put a screen protector and gel case on it on day one so you get a good re-sale value.
As for the update, your guess is as good as anyone else's,.... Hopefully we'll get it before May.
I bought mine knowing it had 1.5 on it, and am happy for now. I'm sure all bugs in the cooked ROMs will be ironed out before long, and I dont plan on keeping mine for more than 3 - 6 months.
Haha, that's true, the Desire does look way better... Having said that, I'd be paying £35 for 2 years instead of £25 for 2 years, which is a bit steep IMO.
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Haha, that's true, the Desire does look way better... Having said that, I'd be paying £35 for 2 years instead of £25 for 2 years, which is a bit steep IMO.
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So is that the deal you got?.... Are you in the uk then?
How many minutes etc do you get?.... Did you pay anything for the handset?
An alternative is to buy a used Hero,... and take a look at SIM only deals,.... O2's are very reasonably priced, you can either have the option of 30 days notice to cancel whenever you want,... or a 12 month contract which is £5 cheaper per month than the 1 month ones.
http://shop.o2.co.uk/tariffs/simplicity/12_months
Have a look.
P.S,... I think Its better to get the Iphone SiM only tariff, as you can also use BT Cloud and BT Openzone Wifi points where available, just dont tell them its not for an iPhone.
P.P.S... I dont know what other networks offer as SIM only deals.
Yeah that's the deal I got.
I'm in the UK and I got 900 minutes and unlimited internet with an unlimited text booster thing, and the handset was free. It's a 24 month contract, but month-by-month I think it's not too bad for £25.
The problem is that I got it in store, and they have said because of that I don't have a 14 day right to cancellation which I would have if I got it online or over the phone.
Sick to my stomach
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/06/walmart-selling-htc-hd2-for-48-88/
amazon
Amazon price: $49.99 (with new service plan)
I would have done this, except I couldn't add a line through amazon.
I wonder if the outright purchase price has dropped any? At this pricing it would have been worthwhile for me to renew my contract and get roped into the $30 a month data plan.
I outright purchased my HD2 since over the course of the 2 years that my contract would have been extended, the extra $10 a month for the data would have eaten up the savings of getting the HD2 subsidized.
Just the cost of being an early adopter
What the hell.
dropped $150 in what, 2 months?
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What the hell.
dropped $150 in what, 2 months?
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It's quite sad really. Majority of the people who get the HD2 in the USA are not people who know what Windows Mobile is, and for the most part, get frustrated when they treat it as a phone, instead of a personal computer (SENSE's imperfections is partly to blame for this, which is why I never recommend SENSE to people). I can honestly vouch that the majority of people who got this phone got it because the screen is bigger than the iPhone (and that it is supposed to be T-Mobile's iPhone). That's about it.
Because of this, I"m pretty sure TMobile is experiencing so many returns/complaints from people who have little to know knowledge about Windows Mobile. Therefore, I'm getting the feeling that T-Mobile is starting to think that it's not worth it and is deciding to just push the stock out ASAP (lock whoever they can for the next 2 years), or what's left of it, keep a couple of thousand in stock for return/repair/warranty issues, and call it quits soon (which might lend proof to the upcoming rumor that T-Mobile is ending HD2 soon in July).
It's really sad, because the T-Mobile's HD2 is one of the most solid phones I have ever held in my hand which no cracks, crease, or squeaks. It is a hardware marvel in so many respects it puts a lot of other phones to shame.
Windows Mobile is an OS that is for a very niche market, because it requires a certain finesse and tolerance that a majority of users simply do not have (I give credit to Apple for making a device that works well for the features that it has). Windows Mobile phones are part phone, part personal computer, and part software-gadgetry-hobby for the tech enthusiast.
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What the hell.
dropped $150 in what, 2 months?
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as above said, its probably because it is becoming a headache for them. I bet they've had hundreds of returns because people have come here, flashed the wrong thing and bricked it, plus thousands more who simply dont get the phone, and have no clue how to start to understand it.
As a line of phones its probably somewhere between a great moneymaker and a support nightmare for tmo.
Sheesh, cut the price I paid in HALF! The nerve....
($99 from Wirefly at release)
As for why, well, I noticed a lot of HD2 commercials from HTC leading up to the release of Evo, then haven't seen any HD2 ones at all after that. Understandable for HTC, but bad for TMO, and it's affiliates. Perhaps lower prices are trying to pull the interest back to the "older" phone.
I got mine at launch at wal-mart - it was $149, so this is a $100 price drop
Shame those of us who paid 350+ can't get some of that cash back lol.
Not to mention that the resale values on eBay will DIVE when we want to sell ours in a year and possibly upgrade. Prices people are paying for used Nexus One's and Apple 3G's is insane! Fortunately paid about 75 in May through Letstalk.com with a coupon so I can definately get that back in a year. At the time Tmobile was charging 199 with a new service agreement. Their return rate must have been like a tidal wave. Amazing that a month ago people couldn't even get this phone as it was constantly on backorder! Guess a software/radio upgrade from Tmobile is now going to be out of the question?!!!
Agree that is a great phone with some minor software flaws but the hardware has been flawless. Look over at the EVO forum and many are have issues with screen delams, bleeding of backlight, badly grounded screens that repond even when touching the kickstand. My HD2 has been perfect - no flexing, dead pixels or button problems.
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i didnt even pay for mine yet. tmobile billed me 130 and i have to pay two payments of 25 bucks so 200 total but they credited me 50 so it was only 150 now i havent had a fone in about month cuz i thought id be paying 25 extra for 6 months and now the fone is cheaper then i got it for with an extra 50, i think im going to call them and try to get my price adjusted !! its going for a third of what i am supposed to pay i might threaten to leave tmobile again or something
just be happy you all got it so much cheaper than the rest of the world to start with. An extra 100 dollars is chicken feed.
Lawl. I would love that the HD2 gets discontinued. It'll make us remaining T-Mobile HD2 owners stand like the few and the proud.
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Lawl. I would love that the HD2 gets discontinued. It'll make us remaining T-Mobile HD2 owners stand like the few and the proud.
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HA! That's what I think as well! It'll be like the "Hard to get your hands on" phone.
Really? The Few, The Proud, The HD2 Owner.
It's still just a phone at the end of the day. I just hope that I will now be able to pick up a second HD2 cheap to experiment with when an Android port becomes available.
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Shame those of us who paid 350+ can't get some of that cash back lol.
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Got that right. I just paid $400 less than a month ago without any plans
toygixxer69 said:
Got that right. I just paid $400 less than a month ago without any plans
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I paid $450 the first week of April for mine. But I don't have a contract to worry about and I am still using my t-zones service for $5.99 a month. So still worth it to me.
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It's quite sad really. Majority of the people who get the HD2 in the USA are not people who know what Windows Mobile is, and for the most part, get frustrated when they treat it as a phone, instead of a personal computer (SENSE's imperfections is partly to blame for this, which is why I never recommend SENSE to people). I can honestly vouch that the majority of people who got this phone got it because the screen is bigger than the iPhone (and that it is supposed to be T-Mobile's iPhone). That's about it.
Because of this, I"m pretty sure TMobile is experiencing so many returns/complaints from people who have little to know knowledge about Windows Mobile. Therefore, I'm getting the feeling that T-Mobile is starting to think that it's not worth it and is deciding to just push the stock out ASAP (lock whoever they can for the next 2 years), or what's left of it, keep a couple of thousand in stock for return/repair/warranty issues, and call it quits soon (which might lend proof to the upcoming rumor that T-Mobile is ending HD2 soon in July).
It's really sad, because the T-Mobile's HD2 is one of the most solid phones I have ever held in my hand which no cracks, crease, or squeaks. It is a hardware marvel in so many respects it puts a lot of other phones to shame.
Windows Mobile is an OS that is for a very niche market, because it requires a certain finesse and tolerance that a majority of users simply do not have (I give credit to Apple for making a device that works well for the features that it has). Windows Mobile phones are part phone, part personal computer, and part software-gadgetry-hobby for the tech enthusiast.
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Man u said what i would have
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wow that hurts..i paid $250.00 for mines but it sucks how the price dropped. but i am happy i got it and because of the hd2 i was able to learn so much more on this website about how everything works and...thats priceless
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I paid $450 the first week of April for mine. But I don't have a contract to worry about and I am still using my t-zones service for $5.99 a month. So still worth it to me.
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Hi guys, just want to get your opinions on something I'm rather struggling with....
My contract is over and I'm now in the market for something new!
However, now the question! For the last 3 months I could'nt wait to upgrade to the Note 2, but now this Xperia Z has cought my attention whole heartedly!
The options:
Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (white) with 1000 minutes, unlimited texts and unlimited data.. No upfront handset costs on a 24 month contract for £31 a month...
Or
Sony Xperia Z (black) with 500 minutes, unlimited texts and unlimited data.. No upfront handset costs on a 24 month contract for £26 a month...
I use around 200 minutes a month so both are more than enough!
I'm gravitating towards the Xperia, but dont know if I'll get on with the soft buttons and I never use the S-pen, so no selling point there..
I am however a massive MIUI freak, so neither "Touchwiz" nor "Xperia" launchers will satisfy me in deciding this myself!
Which one would you choose?
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Hi guys, just want to get your opinions on something I'm rather struggling with....
My contract is over and I'm now in the market for something new!
However, now the question! For the last 3 months I could'nt wait to upgrade to the Note 2, but now this Xperia Z has cought my attention whole heartedly!
The options:
Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (white) with 1000 minutes, unlimited texts and unlimited data.. No upfront handset costs on a 24 month contract for £31 a month...
Or
Sony Xperia Z (black) with 500 minutes, unlimited texts and unlimited data.. No upfront handset costs on a 24 month contract for £26 a month...
I use around 200 minutes a month so both are more than enough!
I'm gravitating towards the Xperia, but dont know if I'll get on with the soft buttons and I never use the S-pen, so no selling point there..
I am however a massive MIUI freak, so neither "Touchwiz" nor "Xperia" launchers will satisfy me in deciding this myself!
Which one would you choose?
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the XZ is faster more update tech, XPeria always has great developer support in part due to the excellent source release from Sony, since the MI2 phone runs the same SOC I can imagine it would not take to long to get MIUI on the XZ.
if you love popsicle colors or you find viewing angles very imported it's better to get the note 2 or wait for newer Samsung devices
keenan316 said:
Hi guys, just want to get your opinions on something I'm rather struggling with....
My contract is over and I'm now in the market for something new!
However, now the question! For the last 3 months I could'nt wait to upgrade to the Note 2, but now this Xperia Z has cought my attention whole heartedly!
The options:
Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (white) with 1000 minutes, unlimited texts and unlimited data.. No upfront handset costs on a 24 month contract for £31 a month...
Or
Sony Xperia Z (black) with 500 minutes, unlimited texts and unlimited data.. No upfront handset costs on a 24 month contract for £26 a month...
I use around 200 minutes a month so both are more than enough!
I'm gravitating towards the Xperia, but dont know if I'll get on with the soft buttons and I never use the S-pen, so no selling point there..
I am however a massive MIUI freak, so neither "Touchwiz" nor "Xperia" launchers will satisfy me in deciding this myself!
Which one would you choose?
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I had the Note for a year absolutely loved it, it was actually my second 5" phone, I was one of the first adopters of the Dell Streak 5.
Upgraded to the note 2 in november 2012, I loved that even more than the note 1, but i have been won over by the xperia z's looks, camera and waterproofing. I pre ordered from clove last week, and just sold my note 2, so the net cost to me was about £120.
If you can afford to buy a hand set out right you should, put a GiffGaff card in there, I worked out my last contract over 24 months was costing me 180 quid a year more than just getting the hand set out right and using the giff gaff £12 deal that comes with unlimted data.
futurama said:
I had the Note for a year absolutely loved it, it was actually my second 5" phone, I was one of the first adopters of the Dell Streak 5.
Upgraded to the note 2 in november 2012, I loved that even more than the note 1, but i have been won over by the xperia z's looks, camera and waterproofing. I pre ordered from clove last week, and just sold my note 2, so the net cost to me was about £120.
If you can afford to buy a hand set out right you should, put a GiffGaff card in there, I worked out my last contract over 24 months was costing me 180 quid a year more than just getting the hand set out right and using the giff gaff £12 deal that comes with unlimted data.
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Someone at work told me about GiffGaff, really worth thinking about, but spending £400 - £500 out right in one purchase seems to leave a more noticable void in your pocket than a marginal £26 a month..
on contract from Tmobile it'll work out at £600 over 2 years on contract, but if I were to buy the handset at £500 + £10 a month for 24 month it'll work out more expensive at £740 all in, so idealy the Tmobile contract is the way to go...
Nearly the same experience for me. Had the Note 1, and my contract was up. The only difference is I'm in the USA.
So, I could get the Note 2 right now, but nothing else (newer). I am waiting out the Mobile World Congress to see what pans out from all manufacturers.
I decided the Note 2 was not much of an upgrade at the on contract price ($299 from ATT). Now if there is a price drop in the next 2 weeks, I may cave in!
I'll be selling my Note 2 and pile of accessories for about $600 on ebay (going rate) to cover most of the cost of the xperia z. I'll be out of pocket about $150 bucks. The camera and water/dust proofing are the main features that sold me on this device. When i bike to work I can throw this bad boy right on my handlebars with an 'eposed' mount and not have to worry about rain, snow, or dust while still having full access to my phone. I am thinking of holding out for the C6606 for the LTE but currently use the N7100 which doesn't have LTE so I can live without it....we'll see.
keenan316 said:
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Which one would you choose?
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I'm also coming from the Note n7000.
For me the choice was quite easy, since I can sell my Note.
Look at it this way: You pay less for a newer phone? What else is there to doubt about.:angel:
I can't say which one is better since I haven't had any of the 2 in real life.
Dsteppa said:
I'm also coming from the Note n7000.
For me the choice was quite easy, since I can sell my Note.
Look at it this way: You pay less for a newer phone? What else is there to doubt about.:angel:
I can't say which one is better since I haven't had any of the 2 in real life.
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So you're choosing the Xperia?
I also have a Note 2 (N7100) and I'm exchanging it for a Xperia Z (long story) in the last year I've had One X, S3 and Note 2.
Main reasons I'm going for XZ is camera, Sony excel in this area. Also Note 2 is slightly too big, I've got used to it but one handed use is impossible, most nights I drop it on face lol! So having a phone that I find a reasonable size I'm looking forward too!
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your in a sony forum.......all of the answers are obviously going to be somewhat biased....they wouldnt be posting in this forum if they didnt plan on getting the phone....
i mean you can ask the same question in any forum and they are going to tell you their phone is the better choice...
i would just try each out and look at the development forum for each....this phone isnt even out in most places and all these people are telling you its the better choice LOL that dont make to much sense....dont let all these all these "pre-order fanboys" make up your mind......i mean just look at every person who told you to get the XZ not a single one of them own the phone haha......
thats the problem with asking these kinds of questions in a specific forum....of course the XZ is going to win in the XZ section....
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So you're choosing the Xperia?
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Yup I pre ordered it
djq said:
your in a sony forum.......all of the answers are obviously going to be somewhat biased....they wouldnt be posting in this forum if they didnt plan on getting the phone....
i mean you can ask the same question in any forum and they are going to tell you their phone is the better choice...
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Except an LG forum lol Usually hear "LG Never again"
I hate Korean phones. Build quality is lousy @
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If youre an miui freak get an iPhone. That's all miui is, iOS with a hint of Android. If you won't use spen get the Sony! I had an my wife has Ion and the camera is AMAZING! Sure this will only be better
Sent from my Note Deuce... Bazinga!