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Why I Am OK With $530

After reading all the stories, lots of comments on blogs and forums, I have had enough of the BS about how $530 is over priced and way too much and blah blah blah. You guys want the latest and greatest but aren't willing to pay any more than $5 for it.
Every single phone worth money for years has had an unsubsidized price of at least $550 with a few exceptions of course (G1 is only $400, but it is a generation old hardware). An iPhone 3GS 32gb retails for $699 straight up. The HTC HD2 is $899 on Amazon. Good phones aren't cheap as I am sure a lot of you know. So in this respect, $530 is actually a pretty good deal; especially when you compare it to the HD2 which has the same processor and similar hardware. You are getting a next-gen phone with the best screen to ever be on a phone, double the ram of most high end phones, and double the resolution of most high end phones. You expected the best of the best to be cheap? Pfft...
Also, my current T-Mobile plan is superior to what is going to be offered. It will be cheaper and easier in the long run to just buy the phone straight up.
What I am seeing from people is they see $530 and freak the hell out because they have the $180 to compare it against. Sure, there is a big difference there, but you are locked in to a contract for 2 years. $80 * 24 months + $180 = $2100 over 2 years! AND you only have 500 minutes. If you bought the phone straight up and went with Even More Plus for $80/mo, you get unlimited everything. $80 * 24 months + $530 = $2450. Yes, this is more expensive, HOWEVER, how many times will you go over your 500 minutes in the next 2 years? If this is not a problem for you, by all means, go right ahead and get the contract deal since it suits you. But for me, and I suspect most people, 500 minutes is not enough. For the additional $350 over 2 years, or $14.58 and change every month, it is worth having those unlimited minutes.
Does anybody else agree with me on this? All of my phone junkies I talk to agree that $530 is reasonable. Sure, we all would love a less expensive phone, but lets get real here...
Oh, and if this "leak" turns out to be false, than what an awesome waste of time and all of this is moot! LOL

Agree with you on this. My current plan is dirt cheep for unlimited data and no 2 year contract, so I'll shell out the $530 if that's all official after the 5th!

people are trippin over $530 for a phone like this? I paid $550 for my unlocked fuze last year, $800 for unbranded touch pro 2 in April, unlocked motorola droid(milestone) is $800! Al least this phone has some kind of US 3G support, unlike most unbranded phones that come state side. I think I'm a get it day 1, and then get the Bravo when it come out later this year if Sense UI cant be import on the Nexus.

I agree with you guys wholeheartedly. To be honest though, I think it's most telling to compare plans in an apples to apples manner. I'm a dork with a background in finance, so yes, I created a spreadsheet to calculate all the costs incrementally to see where changes in costs were coming from in my comparison.
After running through the numbers and calculating total costs over a 24 month term, for the 500 minute EM and EM+ plans, with the respective phone costs, the total cost over 24 months if I bought the phone unlocked would be $1970. If I purchased it on contract for $180, the total I'd spend over 24 months would be $2100.
There's NO WAY that you'll spend more over the long term with the EM+ plan UNLESS you're eligible for a corporate discount on the EM plan (which I happily am). With my discount, the total for the EM plan comes to $1811, but that doesn't apply to everyone.
The problem here is that most people are spoiled by the subsidized prices of phones. What they're not realizing is that they're paying for that subsidy in the form of more expensive plans...and then some, as my illustration above clearly proves. If T-mobile allows us to finance unsubsidized phones for 20 months on EM+ plans, then this works out to be more manageable for consumers. Either way, though... people need to consider total cost of ownership (TCO)... not just monthly cost and initial cash outlay for the device.

Exactly! Thanks for doing that. People just don't look for future savings and would rather have instant gratification. They are excited by a cheap up front cost and monthly service fee be damned!

I totally agree with you. it is by far the best phone in terms of specifications and price compared to its competitors (iphone 3gs, HD2).
Thanks for explaining this to people.

T-Mo Unlimited Voice/Web/Text $79.99/mo x 24 months = $1,920
Phone: $530.00
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Total: $2,450.00
IPhone Plan
AT&T Unlimited Voice/Web/Text $149.99/mo for 24 months = $3,600
Phone: $200.00
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Total: $3,800.00
-No contract for the T-Mobile plan
-No texts? AT&T without any text message plan still comes to $3,320

I was hoping for unlocked-only availability. It would keep certain... um... people... from buying the phone and then flooding the forums with questions, tacky themes, etc.

Dont really care about the price. It's actually not too bad, but if they only offer a 3g for Tmobile version here in the states then why bother selling it from google? Now...if they offer a few versions that can do 3g on several of the networks, or the final device gives us 3g on AT&T and Tmobile (and perhaps they do a verizon version too!)...that would be an awesome sale.

lordmaxx said:
Dont really care about the price. It's actually not too bad, but if they only offer a 3g for Tmobile version here in the states then why bother selling it from google? Now...if they offer a few versions that can do 3g on several of the networks, or the final device gives us 3g on AT&T and Tmobile (and perhaps they do a verizon version too!)...that would be an awesome sale.
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I imagine that Google will be releasing high-end phones for all carriers this year. I think they started with T-mobile for a variety of possible reasons. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that they felt that T-mo should get preference because they were the first carrier to carry the Android torch to market. I also wouldn't be surprised if Google had planned this all along and that T-mobile was promised to get the first "Google phone". Obviously this is all conjecture, but it makes sense from a business perspective.

uansari1 said:
I imagine that Google will be releasing high-end phones for all carriers this year. I think they started with T-mobile for a variety of possible reasons. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that they felt that T-mo should get preference because they were the first carrier to carry the Android torch to market. I also wouldn't be surprised if Google had planned this all along and that T-mobile was promised to get the first "Google phone". Obviously this is all conjecture, but it makes sense from a business perspective.
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But the problem with getting the first of anything is it will be ancient by the time other carriers receive their Android devices

Not necessarily. Given the specs of this phone, I can't see it becoming obsolete as quickly as the G1 did. I could be wrong, but how soon would you think a phone would come out with over 1ghz processor and over 512 ram and rom?

uansari1 said:
Not necessarily. Given the specs of this phone, I can't see it becoming obsolete as quickly as the G1 did. I could be wrong, but how soon would you think a phone would come out with over 1ghz processor and over 512 ram and rom?
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Aren't there already two other snapdragon devices out? What about the rumors of another iphone being released later this year?
I think the g1 may have been just as big when it came out. Times change, so does technology. The N1 may seem like the hottest new device, but it's the Nexus ONE just as the Dream was the Gee ONE. Look at where we are now. With at least half a dozen android capable devices out in about a year and 50+ rumored by 2012.

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Aren't there already two other snapdragon devices out? What about the rumors of another iphone being released later this year?
I think the g1 may have been just as big when it came out. Times change, so does technology. The N1 may seem like the hottest new device, but it's the Nexus ONE just as the Dream was the Gee ONE. Look at where we are now. With at least half a dozen android capable devices out in about a year and 50+ rumored by 2012.
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Your points are well taken. No one's saying that this is THE ultimate phone of all time. It's simply the greatest Android phone to be released yet, and based on its specs, it seems to be a very significant advance forward in hardware as compared to other devices, aside from Droid.

uansari1 said:
Your points are well taken. No one's saying that this is THE ultimate phone of all time. It's simply the greatest Android phone to be released yet, and based on its specs, it seems to be a very significant advance forward in hardware as compared to other devices, aside from Droid.
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Before the Droid all the Android devices were mostly similar (form factor, screen resolution/size, cpu, etc). This is just like the Droid. It was supposed to be the greatest Android device until the next phone showed up a few months later. How do we know a device with similar or better specs won't show up soon? HTC's leaked roadmap has a lot of impressive devices scheduled for this year.
The marketplace is only going to fragment even more Developers aren't happy coding for all these different devices.

IDK if you all are missing the point or if maybe im just redirecting it but here goes
This does not fit into how google normally does things. Correct me if im wrong but the formula usually goes
Take good service/software and make it better + dirt cheap or free+data mining = profit$$
If they aren't subsidizing any of the cost, why should we let them have our data?

esincho said:
people are trippin over $530 for a phone like this? I paid $550 for my unlocked fuze last year, $800 for unbranded touch pro 2 in April, unlocked motorola droid(milestone) is $800! Al least this phone has some kind of US 3G support, unlike most unbranded phones that come state side. I think I'm a get it day 1, and then get the Bravo when it come out later this year if Sense UI cant be import on the Nexus.
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I am fully agree with your statement that at least this phone has some sort of US 3G support which many unlocked phones lacked or manufacturers are too slow to release the US 3G version (read: Nokia N95 NAM edition).
I think this angry attitude is a manifestation of our credit-driven lifestyle. Many people don't realize that paying cheaper price for a phone alongside mandatory 2 years contract (and ETFs if we decided to cancel) is more expensive. Even if they do, the fact that they can OWN the product NOW (regardless whether you can afford the whole price or not) is what makes it desirable in this part of the world.
Regarding the fact that it doesn't support AT&T 3G bands, well suck it up because iPhone didn't support T-Mobile 3G either and I'm sure there are many Tmob subscribers are interested to get that capabilities too. Until US cleared up these 3G band fragmentation (which probably won't happen), we are at the mercy of these manufacturers to step up their game and put in Quad Band UMTS as opposed to cherry picking 3 UMTS bands to be put into their phones.

Only thing making me think twice is when will a keyboard version of the hardware come out.

burton14e7 said:
Only thing making me think twice is when will a keyboard version of the hardware come out.
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The keyboard phone with these specs would be the next G1, most likely to come out just in time for the early G1 adopters to renew their contracts.

uansari1 said:
I agree with you guys wholeheartedly. To be honest though, I think it's most telling to compare plans in an apples to apples manner. I'm a dork with a background in finance, so yes, I created a spreadsheet to calculate all the costs incrementally to see where changes in costs were coming from in my comparison.
After running through the numbers and calculating total costs over a 24 month term, for the 500 minute EM and EM+ plans, with the respective phone costs, the total cost over 24 months if I bought the phone unlocked would be $1970. If I purchased it on contract for $180, the total I'd spend over 24 months would be $2100.
There's NO WAY that you'll spend more over the long term with the EM+ plan UNLESS you're eligible for a corporate discount on the EM plan (which I happily am). With my discount, the total for the EM plan comes to $1811, but that doesn't apply to everyone.
The problem here is that most people are spoiled by the subsidized prices of phones. What they're not realizing is that they're paying for that subsidy in the form of more expensive plans...and then some, as my illustration above clearly proves. If T-mobile allows us to finance unsubsidized phones for 20 months on EM+ plans, then this works out to be more manageable for consumers. Either way, though... people need to consider total cost of ownership (TCO)... not just monthly cost and initial cash outlay for the device.
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Expanding on this and assuming no discounts...
Option A) Buy the phone for $180 subsidized and the 500-minute plan for $80/mo, signing a contract to pay $2100 total over 24 mos.
Option B) Buy the phone for $530 unsubsidized and unlocked and choose the comparable 500-minute plus unlimited text/data Even More Plus plan for $60/mo for a total cost of $1970 over 24 mos with no contract.
So over two years of the phone and contract, you save $130 by going with option B.
But will you really last two years? Let's see what happens if you want to change phones after one year, which is entirely possible given the rate at which mobile technology is moving.
Option A) Early reports indicate a $350 early termination fee imposed by T-Mobile during the first 120 days, but no details have been learned about the fee past that window. Let's assume it reduces linearly to zero over the remaining life of the contract, meaning your fee for leaving early would be $210 at the one year mark. This puts you at $1350 to get out free and clear from the phone and contract.
Option B) You have no ETF, so you'll have paid $1250 at the end of one year.
So, even after just a year you still spend $100 less buying unsubsidized. Further, your phone will already be unlocked and unbranded, ready for quick sale on E-bay.
Pretty simple choice for me. Less money & easy to move on = no-brainer.

Rogers Rogers upgrade to HTC Magic from HTC Dream for $0!!!

Hey everyone, just wanted to let all you know that for a limited time you can upgrade from your HTC Dream to the HTC Magic for $0.
If you have purchased your dream between Jan 01 2009 and Dec 31st 2009 through the Rogers hardware upgradeprogram, or through a new activation you can take advantage of this offer!!
THIS IS NOT A JOKE, it was released to employees today and you might want to get a jump on it now, since in the future there will be no updates to the software and you can only do this upgrade until Jan 21st 2010.
If you don't beleive me just call em, it will only take a few minutes, and if they tell you it's not an offer tell them to look in the "KMT" under the "Whats New" section and they can get all the information from there.
Yes you will have to sign a new 3yr term, but you will get an absoloutly free phone, no $35 hardware admin fee, no shipping handling, NOTHING!!!
Have fun with your new free phone!!!

Really?!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616344

THIS IS A SCAM!!!!
DO NOT FALL FOR IT.
1) They make back their cost on the hardware within a couple of MONTHS of billing you.
2) They are TRICKING you into a contract with them that lasts THREE YEARS.
3) They are SCARED TO LOSE CUSTOMERS to the new players -- Wind Mobile (been operational for a month now), DAVE Wireless, and PUBLIC MOBILE. Wind Mobile ALREADY has WAY better rates than ROBBERS. Dave and Public promise and (if they want to capture any customers) MUST deliver the same (or even better).
4) It is A DOWNGRADE. You bought your HTC DREAM for its KEYBOARD. They are handing over something that YOU CHOSE NOT TO BUY.
The scam works like this:
They REFUSE to update the DREAM to latest version, claim that it has insufficient hardware. Note: The hardware is virtually identical -- the difference in memory is NOT a show stopper. Since they refuse to make the update, they, in order for you to GET the update, coerce you into changing phones and extending your contract, which makes sure that you don't leave them for greener pastures for at least THREE YEARS.
THREE YEARS is a VERY LONG TIME, especially NOW, when the Canadian cell phone market is under revolutionary forces.
Note: Wind mobile serves TORONTO, and CALGARY currently. They will be launching in OTTAWA, and EDMONTON in a matter of WEEKS, followed soon after by VANCOUVER, VICTORIA, and general expansions everywhere else.

lbcoder said:
THIS IS A SCAM!!!!
DO NOT FALL FOR IT.
1) They make back their cost on the hardware within a couple of MONTHS of billing you.
2) They are TRICKING you into a contract with them that lasts THREE YEARS.
3) They are SCARED TO LOSE CUSTOMERS to the new players -- Wind Mobile (been operational for a month now), DAVE Wireless, and PUBLIC MOBILE. Wind Mobile ALREADY has WAY better rates than ROBBERS. Dave and Public promise and (if they want to capture any customers) MUST deliver the same (or even better).
4) It is A DOWNGRADE. You bought your HTC DREAM for its KEYBOARD. They are handing over something that YOU CHOSE NOT TO BUY.
The scam works like this:
They REFUSE to update the DREAM to latest version, claim that it has insufficient hardware. Note: The hardware is virtually identical -- the difference in memory is NOT a show stopper. Since they refuse to make the update, they, in order for you to GET the update, coerce you into changing phones and extending your contract, which makes sure that you don't leave them for greener pastures for at least THREE YEARS.
THREE YEARS is a VERY LONG TIME, especially NOW, when the Canadian cell phone market is under revolutionary forces.
Note: Wind mobile serves TORONTO, and CALGARY currently. They will be launching in OTTAWA, and EDMONTON in a matter of WEEKS, followed soon after by VANCOUVER, VICTORIA, and general expansions everywhere else.
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I didn't really want to reply in this thread but I feel I must.
You are at most adding 7 months to your contract, not 3 years. The Dream came out 7 months ago so anybody on contract with Rogers that got it when it first came out would still have 2 years and 5 months left. Any person who wants to leave Rogers would be far better off re-upping with Rogers getting a free Magic and selling the magic and the dream then they would be just selling their dream and paying the ETF. Since the ETF for 2 years and 5 months is the exact same prices as the ETF for 3 full years of service it's not really a scam.
This deal only gets better the new the customer. Imagine if you just got the dream for $1 on boxing day. Essentially you'd get 2 phones for $1 and at most have 1 extra month of contract time with Rogers. Seems like a pretty bad ass deal to me.

Htc hd2 -- $48.88

Sick to my stomach
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/06/walmart-selling-htc-hd2-for-48-88/

amazon
Amazon price: $49.99 (with new service plan)

I would have done this, except I couldn't add a line through amazon.

I wonder if the outright purchase price has dropped any? At this pricing it would have been worthwhile for me to renew my contract and get roped into the $30 a month data plan.
I outright purchased my HD2 since over the course of the 2 years that my contract would have been extended, the extra $10 a month for the data would have eaten up the savings of getting the HD2 subsidized.
Just the cost of being an early adopter

What the hell.
dropped $150 in what, 2 months?

rickyoon.vegas said:
What the hell.
dropped $150 in what, 2 months?
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It's quite sad really. Majority of the people who get the HD2 in the USA are not people who know what Windows Mobile is, and for the most part, get frustrated when they treat it as a phone, instead of a personal computer (SENSE's imperfections is partly to blame for this, which is why I never recommend SENSE to people). I can honestly vouch that the majority of people who got this phone got it because the screen is bigger than the iPhone (and that it is supposed to be T-Mobile's iPhone). That's about it.
Because of this, I"m pretty sure TMobile is experiencing so many returns/complaints from people who have little to know knowledge about Windows Mobile. Therefore, I'm getting the feeling that T-Mobile is starting to think that it's not worth it and is deciding to just push the stock out ASAP (lock whoever they can for the next 2 years), or what's left of it, keep a couple of thousand in stock for return/repair/warranty issues, and call it quits soon (which might lend proof to the upcoming rumor that T-Mobile is ending HD2 soon in July).
It's really sad, because the T-Mobile's HD2 is one of the most solid phones I have ever held in my hand which no cracks, crease, or squeaks. It is a hardware marvel in so many respects it puts a lot of other phones to shame.
Windows Mobile is an OS that is for a very niche market, because it requires a certain finesse and tolerance that a majority of users simply do not have (I give credit to Apple for making a device that works well for the features that it has). Windows Mobile phones are part phone, part personal computer, and part software-gadgetry-hobby for the tech enthusiast.

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What the hell.
dropped $150 in what, 2 months?
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as above said, its probably because it is becoming a headache for them. I bet they've had hundreds of returns because people have come here, flashed the wrong thing and bricked it, plus thousands more who simply dont get the phone, and have no clue how to start to understand it.
As a line of phones its probably somewhere between a great moneymaker and a support nightmare for tmo.

Sheesh, cut the price I paid in HALF! The nerve....
($99 from Wirefly at release)
As for why, well, I noticed a lot of HD2 commercials from HTC leading up to the release of Evo, then haven't seen any HD2 ones at all after that. Understandable for HTC, but bad for TMO, and it's affiliates. Perhaps lower prices are trying to pull the interest back to the "older" phone.

I got mine at launch at wal-mart - it was $149, so this is a $100 price drop

Shame those of us who paid 350+ can't get some of that cash back lol.

Not to mention that the resale values on eBay will DIVE when we want to sell ours in a year and possibly upgrade. Prices people are paying for used Nexus One's and Apple 3G's is insane! Fortunately paid about 75 in May through Letstalk.com with a coupon so I can definately get that back in a year. At the time Tmobile was charging 199 with a new service agreement. Their return rate must have been like a tidal wave. Amazing that a month ago people couldn't even get this phone as it was constantly on backorder! Guess a software/radio upgrade from Tmobile is now going to be out of the question?!!!
Agree that is a great phone with some minor software flaws but the hardware has been flawless. Look over at the EVO forum and many are have issues with screen delams, bleeding of backlight, badly grounded screens that repond even when touching the kickstand. My HD2 has been perfect - no flexing, dead pixels or button problems.

hd2
i didnt even pay for mine yet. tmobile billed me 130 and i have to pay two payments of 25 bucks so 200 total but they credited me 50 so it was only 150 now i havent had a fone in about month cuz i thought id be paying 25 extra for 6 months and now the fone is cheaper then i got it for with an extra 50, i think im going to call them and try to get my price adjusted !! its going for a third of what i am supposed to pay i might threaten to leave tmobile again or something

just be happy you all got it so much cheaper than the rest of the world to start with. An extra 100 dollars is chicken feed.

Lawl. I would love that the HD2 gets discontinued. It'll make us remaining T-Mobile HD2 owners stand like the few and the proud.

PoisonWolf said:
Lawl. I would love that the HD2 gets discontinued. It'll make us remaining T-Mobile HD2 owners stand like the few and the proud.
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HA! That's what I think as well! It'll be like the "Hard to get your hands on" phone.

Really? The Few, The Proud, The HD2 Owner.
It's still just a phone at the end of the day. I just hope that I will now be able to pick up a second HD2 cheap to experiment with when an Android port becomes available.

RiffyDivine said:
Shame those of us who paid 350+ can't get some of that cash back lol.
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Got that right. I just paid $400 less than a month ago without any plans

toygixxer69 said:
Got that right. I just paid $400 less than a month ago without any plans
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I paid $450 the first week of April for mine. But I don't have a contract to worry about and I am still using my t-zones service for $5.99 a month. So still worth it to me.

PoisonWolf said:
It's quite sad really. Majority of the people who get the HD2 in the USA are not people who know what Windows Mobile is, and for the most part, get frustrated when they treat it as a phone, instead of a personal computer (SENSE's imperfections is partly to blame for this, which is why I never recommend SENSE to people). I can honestly vouch that the majority of people who got this phone got it because the screen is bigger than the iPhone (and that it is supposed to be T-Mobile's iPhone). That's about it.
Because of this, I"m pretty sure TMobile is experiencing so many returns/complaints from people who have little to know knowledge about Windows Mobile. Therefore, I'm getting the feeling that T-Mobile is starting to think that it's not worth it and is deciding to just push the stock out ASAP (lock whoever they can for the next 2 years), or what's left of it, keep a couple of thousand in stock for return/repair/warranty issues, and call it quits soon (which might lend proof to the upcoming rumor that T-Mobile is ending HD2 soon in July).
It's really sad, because the T-Mobile's HD2 is one of the most solid phones I have ever held in my hand which no cracks, crease, or squeaks. It is a hardware marvel in so many respects it puts a lot of other phones to shame.
Windows Mobile is an OS that is for a very niche market, because it requires a certain finesse and tolerance that a majority of users simply do not have (I give credit to Apple for making a device that works well for the features that it has). Windows Mobile phones are part phone, part personal computer, and part software-gadgetry-hobby for the tech enthusiast.
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Man u said what i would have

ouch
wow that hurts..i paid $250.00 for mines but it sucks how the price dropped. but i am happy i got it and because of the hd2 i was able to learn so much more on this website about how everything works and...thats priceless
Paten said:
I paid $450 the first week of April for mine. But I don't have a contract to worry about and I am still using my t-zones service for $5.99 a month. So still worth it to me.
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Bought the Vibrant on or near release date? ETF is now 100 dollars.

Just thought I'd poke my head in and let you guys know that if you bought the Vibrant on the release date, today is the day you can terminate your contract and pay a 100 dollar ETF as opposed to a 200 dollar ETF.
I switched to Verizon last month for a number of different reasons. I moved to a different part of the country and my service with T-Mobile here was beyond terrible. I wasn't happy with how T-Mobile/Samsung, or a combination of the two, completely abandoned this device 7 months after the fact. It went beyond not getting the latest version of Android, there are some pretty annoying bugs that never got fixed. After getting shafted by T-Mobile on a number of different devices, it was becoming clear that they don't have the resources to support even their "flagship" smartphones (my T-Mobile MDA never got the updates it deserved either). The G1 was the only device that really got any love for awhile after release, and that was because it's a Google Experience device. Also, it became clear during the proposed merger that customer support just didn't care anymore. But I'm getting way off track here...
Anyway, just letting you all know. 100 dollars may still be too much for you guys to justify walking away, but I'm quite happy in doing so. I'd also like to say thank you to the absolutely wonderful and amazing development community we've had for this device. Without you, this device would be garbage. I mean it. Thanks again for your continued support.

unfortunately i still have 6 more months...thanks for the heads up though.

If it's 6 months or less etf drops to $100. More than 6 months is $200

It's about $120 with tax.
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Bell trolled us good

Just wanted to share this amusing little tidbit for those of us stuck on a 3 year contract with our Atrix.
With 13 months to go on my contract, Bell wants $195 to cover the device balance.
Their trade in program values our Atrix at $11...
Oh, AT&T users don't worry, the Atrix 4G is worth $13.
http://www.bell.ca/Mobility/Trade-in-program

I can not find no words. like a joke

Cryingmoose said:
Just wanted to share this amusing little tidbit for those of us stuck on a 3 year contract with our Atrix.
With 13 months to go on my contract, Bell wants $195 to cover the device balance.
Their trade in program values our Atrix at $11...
Oh, AT&T users don't worry, the Atrix 4G is worth $13.
http://www.bell.ca/Mobility/Trade-in-program
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Actually, AT&T has a trade in program that valued my device at $36 yesterday when I tried it, not like that's much of a difference. Another site called "techpayout" valued the device at $96, but I have no experience with the site, so who knows how reliable that estimate is.
Having a 2 year contract is bad enough for me, but a three year contract with a device which was pretty much deemed obsolete by the manufacturer less than a year after release? Damn that's gotta hurt. But even if the OEM actually went through with the 18 months of updates, that still pretty much means you'll have a 2-3 year old OS on the device, when you're done with the contract, considering how few Android devices come out with the latest OS. Gingerbread is already 2 years old.
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$13? Yeah, I'm still trying to picture that. As it stands, even broken ones go for more than that on ebay.

lehjr said:
Actually, AT&T has a trade in program that valued my device at $36 yesterday when I tried it, not like that's much of a difference. Another site called "techpayout" valued the device at $96, but I have no experience with the site, so who knows how reliable that estimate is.
Having a 2 year contract is bad enough for me, but a three year contract with a device which was pretty much deemed obsolete by the manufacturer less than a year after release? Damn that's gotta hurt. But even if the OEM actually went through with the 18 months of updates, that still pretty much means you'll have a 2-3 year old OS on the device, when you're done with the contract, considering how few Android devices come out with the latest OS. Gingerbread is already 2 years old.
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$13? Yeah, I'm still trying to picture that. As it stands, even broken ones go for more than that on ebay.
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I bought a nexus 4, wife is using the Atrix with Virgin Mobile. No more 3 year contracts.
Cheers!

NFHimself said:
I bought a nexus 4, wife is using the Atrix with Virgin Mobile. No more 3 year contracts.
Cheers!
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Congratulations. May it serve you well. Condolences to your wife though.