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Dunno what is going on here - I had this problem occasionally with E200 / C500 on Orange, but not to this extent.
Sat at my desk, I suddenly get a Voicemail notification. Strange, as the phone hasn't rung. So I decide to test it.
I get NO ringtone on the phone I'm calling from. Nothing at all. Then it cuts straight to VM. (Phone is sat with full signal, and connected to UMTS network). I phoned 5 times, all with the same result.
Then I hung up the UMTS. Same thing happened.
I did a soft reset and left it in clamshell mode, and phoned again. This time I could clearly hear the ringing on the phone I was calling from, but the device didn't ring / vibrate or anything.
I opened it up and had a message "The phone operation failed" so I hit OK on this and closed it back up again. Phoned it again and this time it rang properly. I hung up before connecting, and got the "Missed call" notification.
Its not (entirely) down to being connected to UMTS - as my phone reconnects automatically as soon as it starts up.
Anyway, having dismissed the "You have a missed call" notification, I tried again. Its back to its original state now, no ringing heard on the phone you call from, and nothing on the phone itself. I only got ONE missed call notification, despite calling it around 7 or 8 times in all.
What the hell is going on here? It almost seems like the phone itself signals to the network that it is totally unreachable (hence no ringing heard by the caller).
I assume you haven't set up diverts or anything?
Get your network provider to do a test and see if they can give you any further information.
Failing that, it's possible that if you stopped the ExtROM from fully installing, it could be causing problems? Or maybe even some sort of task manager may be 'killing' the phone services?
I hadn't set any diverts, and it was the oddly random nature that was cause for concern - it worked after the soft reset, but didn't work beforehand. I can't be doing with a phone that, for its own reasons, refuses to aknowledge an inbound call! This should take precedence over anything else the "phone" is doing at the time, surely...
I've got T Mobile to send me out a reset of my profile (a text message which I delete, then power off the device) and I'll see how it goes.
I did have SBP PocketPlus installed, but no longer... I've not got much installed at all, at the moment.
Strongly considering flashing to the iMate ROM at this moment!
After removing the battery I retested. It was fine.
After writing the last post, I retested again and its broken again.
B*llocks.
The same as you my XDA Exec, oftern misses calls, ( you ring your self and hear it reing bu the phone makes no noise) i also had the same on my XDA2i, and yes removing the battery fixes it for a while.
Also mine when it looses service ( witch is oftern ) it will not go back into service until i soft reset it
John
Hmm, sorry no clue.
I have a JasJar and no-one has told me off for missing their calls. (I take quite a few from work, but rarely make any myself)
Maybe try a ROM flash, but I'm sure other Exec users are not having these problems, so it sounds like it might be something other than a ROM issue?
I've just stuck the iMate Rom on it. Was probably going to do it anyway, but didn't want to break my TomTom setup...
I'll do some testing and will repost on this thread with my findings.
I'm still getting the problem with the iMate ROm installed.
When I go to the Phone settings, it thinks I'm on the UMTS T-Mobile UK network. Now I'm sure this is fine for data, but maybe its not OK for voice, or something like that?
Can anyone let me know what they have in those settings?
Spotted this too on the Jasjar - can't pin down why though as it only appeqars to have started recently
Stu
I'm becoming certain that my data connection is effectively hogging the phone and not allowing voice traffic. I just had problems sending a text message. Every time I hit send, it failed (about 6 times) and went into drafts. To get it to sent, I hung up my active data connection and tried again, and it went immediately.
This is a nightmare, as the device HAS to perform both voice and data functions. I want an always-on data device, but the data MUST be interuptable by inbound / outbound phonecalls as well as notifications (SMS etc).
Right...
I've dropped down to GSM instead of 3G by removing the "Auto" setting from the Band option within the Phone Settings. This appears to have solved the problem.
From looking at the network, it appeared my phone was always connecting to a network called "UMTS T Mobile" (this was even displayed on the occasional incoming call that worked as the carrier). I'm certain this is what is causing the problems. After a Soft Reset, it would still connect to this, as my OTA ActiveSync connection would start up...
Having changed to GSM instead, I'm now connecting to "T Mobile UK" as my carrier - and this is allowing full inbound/outbound functionality - albeit only with GPRS data connectivity.
I'm on T-Mobile UK, and MSN Messenger will happily be interrupted when I get a voice call?
I'm lucky enough to live and work in an area where I'm only ever connected to UMTS (although the setting on my phone is "Auto"). I'm 99% certain that I can get calls every time, and having tested it just now a couple of times it's working without any problems, so there must be something that'll sort out your problem?
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I'm on T-Mobile UK, and MSN Messenger will happily be interrupted when I get a voice call?
I'm lucky enough to live and work in an area where I'm only ever connected to UMTS (although the setting on my phone is "Auto"). I'm 99% certain that I can get calls every time, and having tested it just now a couple of times it's working without any problems, so there must be something that'll sort out your problem?
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I'm lucky enough to live and work in an area immediately covered by whatever equipment may (or may not) be located a T Mobile's head office... :roll:
I cannot discount the possibility that they've erected a UMTS cell which they "tinker with", which may (or, indeed, may not) be causing my problems...
I guess next time I'm out of the area, and in a 3G coverage area elsewhere, I will revert and test it.
In the meantime, they've asked me to test by switching back to "Auto" and trying to phone my phone once in a while, taking note of when I call and whether I get through, and they'll endeavour to trace those calls and find out what is going on...
I hope you'll be sending them an invoice!?!
I have this problem now. I only noticed it after a ROM upgrade (to the latest TMUK ROM). What fixed your problem in the end?
Hi All
I have had a very similar problem and have been discussing it in a separate thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=62863
As you will see, it seems to me that it is a T-Mobile issue, but they don't acknowledge that it is a fault. I don't get the same problem when I put an O2 sim in my Exec.
Other than downgrading to GPRS, I don't think there is any fix.
Mark
Mark, I've had a thought. Do you (like me) have an old 5v T-Mobile SIM.
These SIM’s can be identified either by SIM serial number 893044 05 or 16 – up to and including 893044 50. SIMs with serial numbers 893044 52 and above will be ok- anything lower is likely to be a 5v.
There was an issue when I 1st got my MDA Pro. It had to be network unlocked by T-Mobile for it to work with my SIM. Is it possible that the ROM update as "re-awakend" this problem?
(Also posted in thread you link to)
Thanks for the idea, Slave1, but I don't think that is the cause of the problem. My SIM doesn't have a serial number anything like those you suggested (it starts 060080...) and I only got it a couple of months old and so I am sure that it is a 3G one.
However, now that you mention it, I did have a problem getting the SIM to work when I first got it. I had to get on to Customer Services to get them to register it on the network becuase, they said, the shop hadn't registered it correctly!
Mark
mburgin said:
and I only got it a couple of months old and so I am sure that it is a 3G one.
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All SIMs are usable with 3G (it's the handset that make the difference)
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I did have a problem getting the SIM to work when I first got it. I had to get on to Customer Services to get them to register it on the network becuase, they said, the shop hadn't registered it correctly!
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That's a different issue but just as frustrating.
I had another though. Is anyone using a T-Mobile SIM in an XDA Exec (or just using an O2 ROM) having the same problem?
Could it be a ROM issue?
Frustrating stuff and i'm not sure if it's the phone or the network.
We bought 35 HTC TyTn's recently on the vodafone network and everyone's complaining about dropped calls and having to make multiple attempts before connecting.
We have done a test that confirms both mobiles have 100% signal and neither phones were being used and still we encountered that frustrating "BEEP BEEP".
Any ideas?
Also, have any of you noticed that the there's a bit of delay on the keypad? Any way to resolve this as it's a little annoying too!
HELPPPP!!
J.
Does the "beep beep" sound more like a soft musical double tone than a beep? I've been noticing this myself lately when trying to make outbound calls but I thought it was something to do with Cingular's network. Are you running the stock TyTN ROM?
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I was having this quite regularly on my XDA2 with O2.
I recently hard reset the device, and didnt restore my backup. Since then problem solved.
Could it be other software interfering?
Dan
If it's the monotonal "beep-beep-beep" sound, it usually means the network is busy- I get this in London quite a lot when on a UMTS connection, but seldom get it out "in the sticks" and almost never when on a standard GSM connection. I guess it depends how busy your local tower is. If the tower's congested, you'll get this tone even if you have a full signal.
As is goes, we had this problem at our workplace where there are around 400 people all using Voda (obviously not all at the same time all the time!!). Voda UK kindly installed a tower upgrade for us. Maybe worth a call to CS if you're a fairly big corporate customer.
As a slight aside, there are a few levels of priority assigned to SIM cards- if someone with a higher priority makes a call when the tower is full, someone with a lower priority gets chucked off. My understanding is that on most UK networks, there are 3 or more priority levels (with emergency services getting the top priority, understandably, big corporates getting priority 2, and everyone else getting priority 3; some networks assign the lowest priority to PAYG customers).
I sometimes get a delay on the keyboard, but usually because I have a load of apps running in the background- some cause this problem even after they've been closed for some reason (stand up Mr. TomTom 6). I find a soft reset solves it.
That wouldnt although explain why my reset has solved the problem.... i was getting that issue daily, now havent had it in 3 days.
Strange.........
Dan
Hi,
I have a t-mob wing (after I drove over my magician and I have the following problem: When I am having an active data connection I cannot receive any voice calls. The calls are going directly to voice mail, without notifying me. Once I stop the data connection I can receive calls again and than I will see that I missed a call.
I talked to t-mob support, and after doing a hard-reset (of course) they told me that this is a known problem with the wing, that they are trying to fix it and that there is nothing they can do right now.
1. do other wing users in the US experience the same, so is it the default behavior, or am I just unlucky? (it worked great without a problem with my magician btw)
2. as sometimes during the day the internet connection automatically gets connected (activesync I guess) I never really now if I am able to receive calls right now. Is there a workaround to manually start up and stop the internet connection without the device automatically connecting whenever it feels like it?
thanks in advance
wolferl
interesting ...
I have had a lot of complaints from people telling me that when they call me, it goes straight to voicemail.
I'm also a US Wing user, and I can confirm that is happening to me as well. Was checking sports scores on my break at work earlier, and my girlfriend called me, and I got a voice message from her...but it never showed that she called.
I also have the issue with people in my fave 5 not showing in the call history anyway, so I guess I lose both ways.
hm,
ok, seems to be a generic problem. Is here anyone who successfully gets voice calls while on a data connection with a wing/herald/p4350?
would be interesting to see if it is a t-mobile or device problem.
thanks
I got a HTC wing and i still get incoming call while browsing the internet. No problem here. i've tested a couple times and they all went through. I have T mobile
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I got a HTC wing and i still get incoming call while browsing the internet. No problem here. i've tested a couple times and they all went through.
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hi hondaman,
thanks for the info. whats your provider?
thanks wolferl
"active" data connection is the key
I have the same problem, no voice calls with an active data connection. For me, it seems to be only when the data is actively transferring, like streaming audio or a largish download. Straightforward web surfing doesn't seem to cause the problem, I've received multiple calls while surfing. But during streaming audio, calls go to voice mail every time.
I swear to you, I get calls when I am using data all the time on my Wing. I have the stock T-Mo rom and everything. No CID unlocking, no SIM unlocking.
It happens to me alot that people complain they have called me and it goes straight to voicemail... and its been in cases where im not even using my phone, and as far as I know, I have good signal.
I was running this GB soft program that kept my data connections always on... so I stopped using that to see if I notice a difference.
On the T-Mobile MDA it worked just fine, but on my Wing I can't receive calls while online either.
I just did some testing and I need to correct my original statement. Looks like kerrkj and the others were right. Just being online does not stop you from receiving calls. Just when you are transferring data, the line being actively used, you are not reachable. So, when you are web browsing, it depends whether the moment the call comes in, data is transmitted or not. I was testing accessing different web pages and a couple of times it worked and a couple of times it did not. When streaming audio the calls went to VM 100% of the time.
So, when I am using tomtom and having the traffic check activated, it will be pure coincidence whether you receive a call or not. When streaming audio it will be guaranteed that you are not receiving calls.
I am pretty sure that it was not like that with my magician. Hopefully t-mobile sorts it out sooner than later.
thanks for all your feedback
wolferl
it happens to me too, i know on sprint with the treo's you can run internet or phone, all calls will go to voicemail if you are on the internet. i just assumed it was that way with all of them.
Hello all,
I have had my X1 for about a month, and it seems I've come across a problem that defeats the purpose of a phone. I can't seem to receive calls for some reason...recently my friends and family have been telling me they have tried to call me but it just ends up going to my voice mail. I just tell them I was probably on the phone with someone at that time, or my phone was off. Only today did my friend call me to find me in a parking lot that I finally realize its my phone. So I attempted to call myself with my homephone, and tada! it went straight to voicemail. I don't even get any sign of a missed call.. Did anybody else getting this problem? I did a soft reset and it seem to fix the problem. It has probably happened within the past 2 weeks..I have the generic UK rom so I'm still waiting for the official R2A one. It would be great if someone could explain how to prevent this problem from happening.
not that i have a problem with my x1a, mostly because i rarely get calls and rarely use it but i have another phone that would have a problem that you describe.
i think it was due to the phone switching between 3g and edge signal. i work in the ship yard and the steel walls around the ship interfere with my signal and my phone would switch back and forth between getting the best reception (3g and edge).
well anyways, i think the switching back and forth would somehow screw my phone up and i wouldnt get any calls after getting off work.
my brother who also works at our shipyard and carpools with me would try to call me up to ask me if i was getting off in time but i wouldnt know that he had been trying to call me untill we meet up. he tells me that he has been trying to call me and so as were walking back to the car, i asked him to call me to see if my phone is working.
sure enough, my phone doesnt work untill i turned it off and then turned it back on. so if your in an area with poor 3g reception, maybe that could be causing your problem.
my old phone was an old lg cu500. thats my beater phone and since i dont use it for browsing the internet anymore, i set it and leave to use edge. it gets a stronger signal than 3g but if i do need to use 3g, i just go to my phone settings and set it back to use both signals. for some reason, i almost love that beater phone more than my xperia. mainly because its small, compact and i dont have to worry about scratching or damaging it anymore.
hmm, that is rather interesting...however my service provider's 3g frequency band is not compatible with the x1. I also don't have an internet service type of plan with my phone.
However just going to my settings, I noticed that my phone was set up to attempt to connect to the internet via HSDPA. I'm going to disable it and see what happens.
if you dont have 3g or hsdpa connection, then i would set your phone to use only gsm.
I also miss most of my calls but my problems is other some times it rings and some times it doesnt. Anybody know how to fix this?.
I have seen these problems with another PDA, in that case it seemed to be related with the PDA radio at the beggining, but even if that is one of the probable causes, there are another two to be considered.
The first one is the sim module, I own the same sim since 6 years ago, and this sim was programed specifically for the symbian phones of those years, it is in fact unable to send/receive any MMS with a PDA.
The other PDA I'm talking about is an Universal, the same phone worked ok with my sim and failed to receive many calls (even if the covering of this phone company was "better") -in the same place- with the universal, We first suspected a broken sim, but using this sim in a old gsm phone, it worked just fine.
Also, the cell companies, tend to "abuse" of their position and then to "seed" the phones with applications that do use the phone automatically, these programs are made mainly for symbian phones.
Remember also that the cell networks are exactly that, computer networks, and sometimes their databases are not perfectly compatible with all the possible variations of slightly different phones, in this case, PDAs are the least common type of phone.
So, try your phones with other (another cell company) sim, try using the sim with old phones, etc.
hope this helps.
Hi all,
I've finally got my hands on the DHD, and after using winmo for the last ~5 years I'm loving it, but I seem to have a problem with receiving calls.
Earlier tonight at work I was using the market place, playing a bit of Angry birds, and I got a couple of texts from T-mobile saying I had missed calls, I also had a few missed the night before aswell while i was playing around with it.
I've asked the people who called and they said the calls go straight to answer phone as if the phone is off/has no signal, but the signal is great both at home and work.
So far I have rooted and S-OFF'd the phone, but have not installed a custom ROM yet. I thought this may be kinda like the Iphone 4 touch of death issues, but cant get it loose signal by covering it with my hands.
Has anyone else had this issue, or does it look like I may have a dodgy handset?
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Hi all,
I've finally got my hands on the DHD, and after using winmo for the last ~5 years I'm loving it, but I seem to have a problem with receiving calls.
Earlier tonight at work I was using the market place, playing a bit of Angry birds, and I got a couple of texts from T-mobile saying I had missed calls, I also had a few missed the night before aswell while i was playing around with it.
I've asked the people who called and they said the calls go straight to answer phone as if the phone is off/has no signal, but the signal is great both at home and work.
So far I have rooted and S-OFF'd the phone, but have not installed a custom ROM yet. I thought this may be kinda like the Iphone 4 touch of death issues, but cant get it loose signal by covering it with my hands.
Has anyone else had this issue, or does it look like I may have a dodgy handset?
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Does your phone have 3G coverage at your workplace or is 3G enabled on your phone? 2G allows only voice OR data at the same time, while 3G allows both. So if you were using data e.g. marketplace, syncing etc., your call might not get through. Might be worth checking your phone settings.
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Does your phone have 3G coverage at your workplace or is 3G enabled on your phone? 2G allows only voice OR data at the same time, while 3G allows both. So if you were using data e.g. marketplace, syncing etc., your call might not get through. Might be worth checking your phone settings.
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didnt know that, will have to re-enable 3g D:
Sorry it took me so long to get back to this thread. Thanks for the replies, After being on shift for the last week it seems that my workplace is in a bit of a coverage grey area, so depending where I am stood, strength of the wind or the current celestial alignment, the phone will swap between 3G and HSDPA, so from what I can find it looks like I may of missed these calls due to this issue.
It should not matter if you're swapping from 3G and HSPDA, you should still be receiving calls if you're on 3G. HSPDA is 3G, but faster. It you still miss calls, I'd suggest talking to your provider.