Are you getting "Beep Beep" when trying to make outgoing calls? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Frustrating stuff and i'm not sure if it's the phone or the network.
We bought 35 HTC TyTn's recently on the vodafone network and everyone's complaining about dropped calls and having to make multiple attempts before connecting.
We have done a test that confirms both mobiles have 100% signal and neither phones were being used and still we encountered that frustrating "BEEP BEEP".
Any ideas?
Also, have any of you noticed that the there's a bit of delay on the keypad? Any way to resolve this as it's a little annoying too!
HELPPPP!!
J.

Does the "beep beep" sound more like a soft musical double tone than a beep? I've been noticing this myself lately when trying to make outbound calls but I thought it was something to do with Cingular's network. Are you running the stock TyTN ROM?

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I was having this quite regularly on my XDA2 with O2.
I recently hard reset the device, and didnt restore my backup. Since then problem solved.
Could it be other software interfering?
Dan

If it's the monotonal "beep-beep-beep" sound, it usually means the network is busy- I get this in London quite a lot when on a UMTS connection, but seldom get it out "in the sticks" and almost never when on a standard GSM connection. I guess it depends how busy your local tower is. If the tower's congested, you'll get this tone even if you have a full signal.
As is goes, we had this problem at our workplace where there are around 400 people all using Voda (obviously not all at the same time all the time!!). Voda UK kindly installed a tower upgrade for us. Maybe worth a call to CS if you're a fairly big corporate customer.
As a slight aside, there are a few levels of priority assigned to SIM cards- if someone with a higher priority makes a call when the tower is full, someone with a lower priority gets chucked off. My understanding is that on most UK networks, there are 3 or more priority levels (with emergency services getting the top priority, understandably, big corporates getting priority 2, and everyone else getting priority 3; some networks assign the lowest priority to PAYG customers).
I sometimes get a delay on the keyboard, but usually because I have a load of apps running in the background- some cause this problem even after they've been closed for some reason (stand up Mr. TomTom 6). I find a soft reset solves it.

That wouldnt although explain why my reset has solved the problem.... i was getting that issue daily, now havent had it in 3 days.
Strange.........
Dan

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MDA Pro - Not ringing when I phone it :(

Dunno what is going on here - I had this problem occasionally with E200 / C500 on Orange, but not to this extent.
Sat at my desk, I suddenly get a Voicemail notification. Strange, as the phone hasn't rung. So I decide to test it.
I get NO ringtone on the phone I'm calling from. Nothing at all. Then it cuts straight to VM. (Phone is sat with full signal, and connected to UMTS network). I phoned 5 times, all with the same result.
Then I hung up the UMTS. Same thing happened.
I did a soft reset and left it in clamshell mode, and phoned again. This time I could clearly hear the ringing on the phone I was calling from, but the device didn't ring / vibrate or anything.
I opened it up and had a message "The phone operation failed" so I hit OK on this and closed it back up again. Phoned it again and this time it rang properly. I hung up before connecting, and got the "Missed call" notification.
Its not (entirely) down to being connected to UMTS - as my phone reconnects automatically as soon as it starts up.
Anyway, having dismissed the "You have a missed call" notification, I tried again. Its back to its original state now, no ringing heard on the phone you call from, and nothing on the phone itself. I only got ONE missed call notification, despite calling it around 7 or 8 times in all.
What the hell is going on here? It almost seems like the phone itself signals to the network that it is totally unreachable (hence no ringing heard by the caller).
I assume you haven't set up diverts or anything?
Get your network provider to do a test and see if they can give you any further information.
Failing that, it's possible that if you stopped the ExtROM from fully installing, it could be causing problems? Or maybe even some sort of task manager may be 'killing' the phone services?
I hadn't set any diverts, and it was the oddly random nature that was cause for concern - it worked after the soft reset, but didn't work beforehand. I can't be doing with a phone that, for its own reasons, refuses to aknowledge an inbound call! This should take precedence over anything else the "phone" is doing at the time, surely...
I've got T Mobile to send me out a reset of my profile (a text message which I delete, then power off the device) and I'll see how it goes.
I did have SBP PocketPlus installed, but no longer... I've not got much installed at all, at the moment.
Strongly considering flashing to the iMate ROM at this moment!
After removing the battery I retested. It was fine.
After writing the last post, I retested again and its broken again.
B*llocks.
The same as you my XDA Exec, oftern misses calls, ( you ring your self and hear it reing bu the phone makes no noise) i also had the same on my XDA2i, and yes removing the battery fixes it for a while.
Also mine when it looses service ( witch is oftern ) it will not go back into service until i soft reset it
John
Hmm, sorry no clue.
I have a JasJar and no-one has told me off for missing their calls. (I take quite a few from work, but rarely make any myself)
Maybe try a ROM flash, but I'm sure other Exec users are not having these problems, so it sounds like it might be something other than a ROM issue?
I've just stuck the iMate Rom on it. Was probably going to do it anyway, but didn't want to break my TomTom setup...
I'll do some testing and will repost on this thread with my findings.
I'm still getting the problem with the iMate ROm installed.
When I go to the Phone settings, it thinks I'm on the UMTS T-Mobile UK network. Now I'm sure this is fine for data, but maybe its not OK for voice, or something like that?
Can anyone let me know what they have in those settings?
Spotted this too on the Jasjar - can't pin down why though as it only appeqars to have started recently
Stu
I'm becoming certain that my data connection is effectively hogging the phone and not allowing voice traffic. I just had problems sending a text message. Every time I hit send, it failed (about 6 times) and went into drafts. To get it to sent, I hung up my active data connection and tried again, and it went immediately.
This is a nightmare, as the device HAS to perform both voice and data functions. I want an always-on data device, but the data MUST be interuptable by inbound / outbound phonecalls as well as notifications (SMS etc).
Right...
I've dropped down to GSM instead of 3G by removing the "Auto" setting from the Band option within the Phone Settings. This appears to have solved the problem.
From looking at the network, it appeared my phone was always connecting to a network called "UMTS T Mobile" (this was even displayed on the occasional incoming call that worked as the carrier). I'm certain this is what is causing the problems. After a Soft Reset, it would still connect to this, as my OTA ActiveSync connection would start up...
Having changed to GSM instead, I'm now connecting to "T Mobile UK" as my carrier - and this is allowing full inbound/outbound functionality - albeit only with GPRS data connectivity.
I'm on T-Mobile UK, and MSN Messenger will happily be interrupted when I get a voice call?
I'm lucky enough to live and work in an area where I'm only ever connected to UMTS (although the setting on my phone is "Auto"). I'm 99% certain that I can get calls every time, and having tested it just now a couple of times it's working without any problems, so there must be something that'll sort out your problem?
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I'm on T-Mobile UK, and MSN Messenger will happily be interrupted when I get a voice call?
I'm lucky enough to live and work in an area where I'm only ever connected to UMTS (although the setting on my phone is "Auto"). I'm 99% certain that I can get calls every time, and having tested it just now a couple of times it's working without any problems, so there must be something that'll sort out your problem?
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I'm lucky enough to live and work in an area immediately covered by whatever equipment may (or may not) be located a T Mobile's head office... :roll:
I cannot discount the possibility that they've erected a UMTS cell which they "tinker with", which may (or, indeed, may not) be causing my problems...
I guess next time I'm out of the area, and in a 3G coverage area elsewhere, I will revert and test it.
In the meantime, they've asked me to test by switching back to "Auto" and trying to phone my phone once in a while, taking note of when I call and whether I get through, and they'll endeavour to trace those calls and find out what is going on...
I hope you'll be sending them an invoice!?!
I have this problem now. I only noticed it after a ROM upgrade (to the latest TMUK ROM). What fixed your problem in the end?
Hi All
I have had a very similar problem and have been discussing it in a separate thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=62863
As you will see, it seems to me that it is a T-Mobile issue, but they don't acknowledge that it is a fault. I don't get the same problem when I put an O2 sim in my Exec.
Other than downgrading to GPRS, I don't think there is any fix.
Mark
Mark, I've had a thought. Do you (like me) have an old 5v T-Mobile SIM.
These SIM’s can be identified either by SIM serial number 893044 05 or 16 – up to and including 893044 50. SIMs with serial numbers 893044 52 and above will be ok- anything lower is likely to be a 5v.
There was an issue when I 1st got my MDA Pro. It had to be network unlocked by T-Mobile for it to work with my SIM. Is it possible that the ROM update as "re-awakend" this problem?
(Also posted in thread you link to)
Thanks for the idea, Slave1, but I don't think that is the cause of the problem. My SIM doesn't have a serial number anything like those you suggested (it starts 060080...) and I only got it a couple of months old and so I am sure that it is a 3G one.
However, now that you mention it, I did have a problem getting the SIM to work when I first got it. I had to get on to Customer Services to get them to register it on the network becuase, they said, the shop hadn't registered it correctly!
Mark
mburgin said:
and I only got it a couple of months old and so I am sure that it is a 3G one.
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All SIMs are usable with 3G (it's the handset that make the difference)
mburgin said:
I did have a problem getting the SIM to work when I first got it. I had to get on to Customer Services to get them to register it on the network becuase, they said, the shop hadn't registered it correctly!
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That's a different issue but just as frustrating.
I had another though. Is anyone using a T-Mobile SIM in an XDA Exec (or just using an O2 ROM) having the same problem?
Could it be a ROM issue?

"Cannot complete the call. The Signal ma be unavailable

I sometimes get on my exec the following message when I'm hyst trying to make a REGULAR NORMAL ORDINARY phone call to any of my contacts:
"Cannot complete the call. The signal may be unavailable or the phone number may not be valid. Verify the number and try again later."
This bull**** also happened to me before ocassionaly on my old i-mate PDA2K. Driving me nuts, can't make a phone call till a soft reset is made. Making the phone flight mode on/off doesn't fix it.
WTF is wrong? Why does the machine gets confused. Today I had to make an urgent phone call and this **** happened and I lost some business. This machine is simply not as reliable as a phone.
same thing here....Imate sucks.
Ya, I'm getting the same thing here too. I miss calls and have to frequently press redial, as to redial the same number, since it incomprehensibly couldn't dial it. I've got the latest update.
Unfortunately for me, my unit is an Imate and their support "services" SUCK big time.
Paid $1000.00 dollars for this unit and get even get $2.00 service.
IMATE Sucks!
hmm
has similar problems..
using vodafone i noticed it was trying to connect to 3G et.. so i changed Band settings..
select network type to GSM instead of Auto.. i now see a nice G instead of a U next to my vodoafone connection signal thingy..
and all seems to work great again!!
let me know if that solved your problem :lol:
not so sure whether it's relevant or not, but since I removed all "hooking" applications like Smart Filter, ReDial, and calls time monitors ... etc and this issue didn't happen except once during a full month ...
I think those applications suppliers have to do more than just re-compliling their S/W to claim it's WM5 compatible!

Not receiving phone calls?

Hello all,
I have had my X1 for about a month, and it seems I've come across a problem that defeats the purpose of a phone. I can't seem to receive calls for some reason...recently my friends and family have been telling me they have tried to call me but it just ends up going to my voice mail. I just tell them I was probably on the phone with someone at that time, or my phone was off. Only today did my friend call me to find me in a parking lot that I finally realize its my phone. So I attempted to call myself with my homephone, and tada! it went straight to voicemail. I don't even get any sign of a missed call.. Did anybody else getting this problem? I did a soft reset and it seem to fix the problem. It has probably happened within the past 2 weeks..I have the generic UK rom so I'm still waiting for the official R2A one. It would be great if someone could explain how to prevent this problem from happening.
not that i have a problem with my x1a, mostly because i rarely get calls and rarely use it but i have another phone that would have a problem that you describe.
i think it was due to the phone switching between 3g and edge signal. i work in the ship yard and the steel walls around the ship interfere with my signal and my phone would switch back and forth between getting the best reception (3g and edge).
well anyways, i think the switching back and forth would somehow screw my phone up and i wouldnt get any calls after getting off work.
my brother who also works at our shipyard and carpools with me would try to call me up to ask me if i was getting off in time but i wouldnt know that he had been trying to call me untill we meet up. he tells me that he has been trying to call me and so as were walking back to the car, i asked him to call me to see if my phone is working.
sure enough, my phone doesnt work untill i turned it off and then turned it back on. so if your in an area with poor 3g reception, maybe that could be causing your problem.
my old phone was an old lg cu500. thats my beater phone and since i dont use it for browsing the internet anymore, i set it and leave to use edge. it gets a stronger signal than 3g but if i do need to use 3g, i just go to my phone settings and set it back to use both signals. for some reason, i almost love that beater phone more than my xperia. mainly because its small, compact and i dont have to worry about scratching or damaging it anymore.
hmm, that is rather interesting...however my service provider's 3g frequency band is not compatible with the x1. I also don't have an internet service type of plan with my phone.
However just going to my settings, I noticed that my phone was set up to attempt to connect to the internet via HSDPA. I'm going to disable it and see what happens.
if you dont have 3g or hsdpa connection, then i would set your phone to use only gsm.
I also miss most of my calls but my problems is other some times it rings and some times it doesnt. Anybody know how to fix this?.
I have seen these problems with another PDA, in that case it seemed to be related with the PDA radio at the beggining, but even if that is one of the probable causes, there are another two to be considered.
The first one is the sim module, I own the same sim since 6 years ago, and this sim was programed specifically for the symbian phones of those years, it is in fact unable to send/receive any MMS with a PDA.
The other PDA I'm talking about is an Universal, the same phone worked ok with my sim and failed to receive many calls (even if the covering of this phone company was "better") -in the same place- with the universal, We first suspected a broken sim, but using this sim in a old gsm phone, it worked just fine.
Also, the cell companies, tend to "abuse" of their position and then to "seed" the phones with applications that do use the phone automatically, these programs are made mainly for symbian phones.
Remember also that the cell networks are exactly that, computer networks, and sometimes their databases are not perfectly compatible with all the possible variations of slightly different phones, in this case, PDAs are the least common type of phone.
So, try your phones with other (another cell company) sim, try using the sim with old phones, etc.
hope this helps.

Huge delay in SMS all of a sudden - help

Guys,
All of a sudden (last few days) I've been receiving a huge delay in SMS delivery to myself (anything up to 24 hours). I've tried the SIM in another handset (different model) and had no issues. There seems to be nothing wrong with Vodafone UK's service currently so it's a setting on my handset.
The only thing I have fiddled with is the data connections in terms of automatically firing up to drag down my emails over GPRS/3G/HSDPA whatever is available.
I think that the 3G network is causing the issue but I'm not sure how to test.
Please help
Thanks
I had similar issue after roaming in another country. The problem just disappeared in few days. As usual I'm not sure about this - you can avoid 3g by Start>Settings>Phone>Band>Select your network type. Change it from AUTO to GSM. This worked for me when my provider was doing maintenance of its 3G service.
Yup happpens to me all the time, i make a call and recieve loads a texts!!
just an update - i hard reset as my sim worked in another phone and this seemed to sort the issue....rather worried it might come back though!

Best Way to Test Signal

Can anyone suggest the best way to test cell signal on the S7 Edge? My wife and I both have the same phone, but hers consistently seems to report more bars in the same location. I've had calls drop quite often on the first dial and then they stay connected the second time I call. I'm looking to test both phones and see if it's all in my head or if there really is an issue with my device. Any help would be appreciated on an app to use or other way to test the two phones. Thanks.
did you try phone info fromthe play store.
under monitor it will tell your signal strength. I believe through its service menu you also preform a signal test.
Yeah, but those numbers don't mean anything to me. Other than saying moderate for level, it doesn't say much.
Edit: My wife is not home right now, so maybe I'll install this on both phones and see if there is a difference in the same location;. Just wondering what options are out there for testing.
when you look i phone info under signal strength the number tells how good your calling capability is,
It is measured in dBm.
average should be should be around -101 dBm for full bars depending on your provider.
compare it with your wife's signal strength.
Keep in mind that software plays a part, please check that base band version and csc is the same.
Different base bands and csc means that signal strength can vary.
These should be identical as these two items communicate with your phone provider re reception and transmission.
Phones are both stock. Same provider and same software version. I'm pretty sure I've got reception issues because of the dropped calls. Like I said, she's not home right now to test, but in looking at bars previously, she always seems to have more bars in the same location as me. My phone in our condo here is always around -111 to -120 (LTE). That is right on the cusp of bad from what I can tell. Not sure where to go from here. Really don't want to do a factory reset, but I've read it can help clear up problems like this. Not sure how. Might be a lemon, as I've only had the device since February.
i suggest you call your provider and ask them to reset your phone on their system.
It might cause a difference because of flushing out of any information that may have been related to issues on your account.
Cosmic Blue said:
i suggest you call your provider and ask them to reset your phone on their system.
It might cause a difference because of flushing out of any information that may have been related to issues on your account.
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Hmmmm...not sure what this is or what it would do. Never heard of such a thing.
Just got another dropped call. Signal was about -114. I placed a call. While it was connecting, the signal went to about -130 and then to -102 and then dropped. On a second attempt, the signal went to -97 and it connected fine.
Normally when you call your provider to report a problem with your phone.
One of the things they do is to reset your account in case there is an issue in your file as well as doing other tests.
It is similar to you cleaning the cache on your phone from time to time as bits and piece of old files then to slow down your phone.
Try to swap the SIM cards and check what happens.
So this is an older thread, but the issue had been ongoing. Lots of things tried. New sim. Called Rogers (my provider here in Canada) and had them reset mobile connection settings on their end. Tried resetting on my end. Seemed to get better and then back to being an issue again.
Lately it had gotten worse. When I would drive home and park in our parking garage, I would immediately go into roaming mode and was no longer connected to the Rogers network. I was then connected to Rogers-EXT because I had enabled data roaming on my device, from a previous call to Rogers, it was their suggestion to try and keep connectivity, as it is included in my package. The phone would stay roaming as I rode the elevator and into my condo and then usually connect to WiFi and then eventually reconnect to the main Rogers network. Meanwhile this never happened on my wife's S7 Edge, going the same route from her vehicle. Same device, exact same settings, same software version, same updates, etc. Her's never entered roaming mode or got disconnected from the main Rogers network.
Lately, when mine had been entering roaming mode and after I entered my condo, it would stay connected to Rogers-EXT. No matter what I did, a reboot, turn roaming on and off, etc. I had to physically remove myself from the LTE network and then reconnect and register with the network, and then I would connect to the main Rogers network and stop roaming. This was all getting damn frustrating, especially since the same thing was not happening to my wife's phone.
One setting I had not read much about and had not tried was VoLTE. I went into settings and turned this off. I immediately started getting a bit better readings on signal strength as well as no roaming issues any longer at all. I could park, ride the elevator and get into my condo and stay connected to the main Rogers network without issue, exactly like my wife's phone. Funny thing is, VoLTE is ON, on my wife's phone.
I really have no idea why her's works and mine doesn't, other than a hardware issue on my device. I thought about sending my phone in, as I'm still under warranty until the end of December, but right now, everything is working as expected and I haven't heard call quality suffer at all, with the calls I've made so far. I really didn't want to have to wipe my device and send it in and deal with a loaner if I didn't have to. I only plan on keep the device until about August of next year anyway.
If anyone out there knows of why this was happening to my device and not hers or if you have any other suggestions as to how to fix this and re-enable VoLTE (although I don't think it's really that important), please let me know. Again, it sure seems like a hardware (antenna) issue to me.
Aaaaaaaaand nevermind. Worked fine for about 3 days and today it was roaming again after coming up from the parking garage. Ugh. Wish I knew for sure this was a hardware issue. Such a pain to send your phone in, use a loaner, set your phone all up again when you get it back.

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