I have the chance to by a universal for $140 or a htc/at&t fuze for $178. Did i make the right choice going with the cooler and cheeper device, even though it lacks the 3.2mp camera, fm radio, gps, g-class wifi, and smaller/slower ram and rom size?
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Of course it´s worth every cent!!
Universal is one of the best devices ever build by HTC, and to this date still on the top ones!
Go for it!!!
I don't have a UNI but have most of the other HTC devices. How does the data work on AT&T's network? Can it do Edge speeds or just GPRS? I don't think it has the proper radios to do Edge in US.
Thanks.
There are some American models of this great device, and I´m sure you can get it!
The Universal is indeed a great device. Not only does it work as a phone with everything one needs, it also is a great Windows Mobile device.
What I appreaciate is:
- VGA screen
- full usable keyboard
- pretty fast processor
- size compatible with back-pocket of my jeans, yet big enough to actually use the VGA resultion
What I miss:
- only 64MB RAM, too little for WM6.5 builds (or at least to use them properly)
- no GPS
- no High Speed Internet connection
- camera pretty poor and outdated
I got myself a T-Online Ameo very cheap and while this device features all the missing items, regarding the Universal, it has a major flaw: it does not fit in most of trouser's pocket! This means I keep it at home most of the days...
Newer devices may have equal features, better processors, RAM, etc., but they cost around 500-600 Euro, at least 4 times the price of a second hand Universal!
However, you should definitly checkout the new Windows Mobile models from Acer, like the M900. It costs £189 at Expansys and has some impressive specs.
Cheers,
vma
vma said:
What I miss:
- only 64MB RAM, too little for WM6.5 builds (or at least to use them properly)
- no GPS
- no High Speed Internet connection
- camera pretty poor and outdated
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- You can upgrade it to 128MB
- You can use Bluethoot GPS
- 3G is quite quick
- Yes, camera is pretty poot
blackSVK said:
- You can upgrade it to 128MB
- You can use Bluethoot GPS
- 3G is quite quick
- Yes, camera is pretty poot
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- I can't upgrade it. I would have to send my Universal to a professional lab, plus I would have to find the right chips. Not exactly something I could do myself, though I am quite familiar with soldering tiny things.
- I use BT GPS, when using my Universal, but it is not nearly as nice as having an integraded GPS module like on my Athena.
- The Athena features a noticable faster internet experience.
Not starting any discussion, just wanted it to be noticed, specially the memory upgrade. If you see how much it will cost you and then add the value or cost of the Universal, you probably might as well swap for a more recent device, unless you happen to get the memory upgrade done by someone you know for little money.
Cheers,
vma
orb3000 said:
There are some American models of this great device, and I´m sure you can get it!
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I don't ever remember it offered in the U.S.? What was it called?
Maybe you are right and I got confused with this providers thinking there were from USA:
Dopod 900 / Qtek 9000 / SFR v1640 / Vodafone v1640 / Vodafone VPA IV / T-Mobile MDA Pro / i-mate JASJAR / O2 Xda Exec / Orange SPV M5000 / Grundig GR980 / E-Plus PDA IV
orb3000 said:
Welcome to forums
Of course it´s worth every cent!!
Universal is one of the best devices ever build by HTC, and to this date still on the top ones!
Go for it!!!
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soooooooooo im guessing I won for picking up one with a 8gb mem card for 40 GBP on ebay?
Honestly, I dont think I do much to the universal, I also picked up a kaiser at the same time and that will be my main modding device, I just liked the larger keyboard on the universail...it really looks like something I could write short docs on the move with.
Great choice!
Enjoy your Uni!
Have a read on the Wiki
i just purchased a brand new spv m5000 for 150 im waiting for it to come in the mail. ive downloaded roms and software for it. im going to use it as a backup and a showoff phone. no one knows what it is so i can probably resale for more than what i paid for it.
I say for the price Unis go for these days, depreciating as any device would, and considering what it can do - it's a great device to purchase or upgrade to.
rambo6 said:
I don't have a UNI but have most of the other HTC devices. How does the data work on AT&T's network? Can it do Edge speeds or just GPRS? I don't think it has the proper radios to do Edge in US.
Thanks.
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I've used the HTC Universal on AT&T's network and it was just dreadful. Poor reception and only GPRS. AT&T simply doesn't support the frequencies used by the phone and the one that is supported isn't on many towers.
Yesterday my Uni died...
Camera is dead and I cannot reactive the sound in all speakers
But now it's time for a new cell phone. Qtek 9000...black is beautiful
Until there is no comparable device I will use the Uni
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Please share the most annoying thing that you don't like about your i-Mate, O2 Mini or something similar to it.
I have the O2 XDA IIs and the one part I hate about it is the inabillity to answer call the first try. It does this every hour on the hour.
I have never had a problem with my O2 XDA II. Other than the incompatibility with SPB Pocket Plus on the occasion hard reset, but to say the least it's a software problem, not hardware.
I'm thinking of upgrading to an i-Mate Jam because of the size and the 1.3 mega pixel camera. I'm thinking of upgrading the ram to 128mb from PPCTech, I don't think 64mb is enough, since my old Compaq iPaq 3955 had 64mb and HP iPaq 4155 wasn't enough.
Please share before I jump the gun and purchase the i-Mate. Thank you.
1) the camera is no good (Nokia 7610 1.3MP beats it handsdown IMO). even after the patches and fixes. bearable for snaps.
2) the bluetooth is MS stack. not a problem more of a preference; been spoiled by Widcomm on my previous PPC (an iPAQ), interface is not as easy with wizards.
other than that I love my JAM!!! but get an O2XDAIImini they say it has better resale value.
I heard that the i-Mate jam or similar to it, like the O2 Mini has a problem with picking up calls? If someone calls, it'll get drop, but after a soft reset, it doesn't do that. Is that true? That's almost the same problem as the XDA IIs or PDA2K.
More irritations
when the XDA Mini battery saving function is set, the system goes into sleep mode after the annointed period.
If you are using bluetooth headset (mine is plantronics M3000) on lengthy conversations you loose half the conversation (transmission side only , reception works OK) when the sleep mode activates, until you turn the unit back on. So you either have to live with the reductiion of battery life, the signal loss or remember to turn off the sleep mode, mid conversation.
Others have reported similar problems with no fixes in sight.
The battery life is disappointing but I have not owned other PDA's to compare it with.
The camera is a gimmick only, not for serious use.
I also have trouble in some internet sites requiring pop-up password entry
input (ie. one of my bank accounts) where it just will not acknowledge the data input. Dont know why, and the bank IT people cant explain it either. It works well on another similar banking site. ????
But.. all things considered, it is a pretty useful gadget.
PS; Cant buy any accessories in Australia yet, but www.boxwave.com in USA was a useful site and easy to deal with.
I haven't had any probs with battery life on my Mini. Much better than my SE T610, particularly when you consider the Mini does a double duty of phone and PDA.
Camera works fine for what its there for. Its not designed to replace a digicam, just be there for those moments you don't have it with you.
Not had any of these call problems described.
PS; Cant buy any accessories in Australia yet, but www.boxwave.com in USA was a useful site and easy to deal with.
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I haven't had probs with buying accessories. I either get them online from resellers or from eBay.
Get one!!!
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pactim said:
The battery life is disappointing but I have not owned other PDA's to compare it with.
PS; Cant buy any accessories in Australia yet, but www.boxwave.com in USA was a useful site and easy to deal with.
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I'd have to disagree with these two comments, I think the battery life is good on the JAM and as for accessories, lots of online aussie gadget shops sell accessories for the JAM.
http://www.expansys.com.au/
http://www.mrgadget.com.au/
just to name a few.
I shall sit corrected and withdraw my remarks about the accessories in Australia.
Thanks for the links. Have already used one and the other was helpful.
When looking around early last month I coud find accessories listed on websites but nil stocks available. I was impatient so I got my soft case from the states, and aluminium case from Singapore while visiting. Good to see the local have caught up. Although they probably all come from the same places
Thanks for the Input
Thanks for the input, I was curious and now I found the answer.
As long as the pda don't act like my O2 XDA IIs, then I'm fine. I hate it when I pick up a call and can't hear anything on the other end until I have to soft reset it.
I love my O2 XDA II, but it's lacking buttons and keyboard. Both the II and IIs is too big, so I'm gonna try the Mini.
Anyone wants to buy any of my XDA II or IIs? Hehe, I'm serious.
Hi I'm thinking of getting a new pda/phone but I'm not wure which one to go for... the Universal is very tempting but it's size puts me off a bit... where as the wizard seems ideal in size but I have read several post about how multitasking is difficult because the unit is slow. Any thoughts?
then go with the new TyTn. Its the size of the Wizard with the power almost the same with the Universal. The only thing that is not there is the VGA screen. Other than that, the TyTN has it all, 3G tri-band, decent 2MP camera, etc. Just read about it to make sure its what you look for.
I'm from the UK, is it available here?
http://www.europe.htc.com/products/
Absolutely. Its launched first in Europe, and ppl in the US asked the same question, is it available in the US? =)
http://www.europe.htc.com/products/
Absolutely. Its launched first in Europe, and ppl in the US asked the same question, is it available in the US? =)
Orange do it on their website for 149.99 in the UK, it is known as the SPV 3100.
I have both. For phoning, the Wizard is FAR better. The same stands for the battery life. If you plan to do a LOT of Web browsing (where VGA is important), then, go for the Universal. Otherwise, get the Wizard.
If I were you, I'd get the Hermes though.
Hi everyone,
I recently bought the Cingular service (8525 too) to compare to Verizon/Sprint - and needless to sayt stuck with it. Especially after applying the 3DES rom and trinity 1.35 radio - it rocks! BUT then I started reading more and more of the wiki and got to thinking.
Which is the best model to own? I still have 2 weeks to take this model back and buy another Hermes. I really want the front facing vga cam - and if an antenna mod comes out for GPS - I would like to be equiped with the best chance of getting the mod.
Can I get some opinions? Oh, side note - I travel europe1-2 months a year, if I do stay with the Cingular phone I have now - since it is mod'ed do I need to do anything different?
thanks
All the Hermes/TyTN models are more or less identical internally, apart from minor operator-specific hardware differences. Your's being a Cingular 8525 so I assume that it is missing the front camera. Most other models come with the camera. Apart from that, only the housing differs. More on this in the wiki.
You should not ask which Hermes model to choose but instead "Hermes or some other model, such as the i-mate Ultimate 7150" . . .
As Abubasim says, the models are all almost identical except the fromt camera. If you want a camera change the phone (if it won't cost you) otherwise no reason to change it.
As for using it overseas, I have the Vodafone VPA1605. I travel Europe, Americas and Asia. I use radio 1.38.00.10 and have no problems anywhere with it.
feareddevil said:
Hi everyone,
I recently bought the Cingular service (8525 too) to compare to Verizon/Sprint - and needless to sayt stuck with it. Especially after applying the 3DES rom and trinity 1.35 radio - it rocks! BUT then I started reading more and more of the wiki and got to thinking.
Which is the best model to own? I still have 2 weeks to take this model back and buy another Hermes. I really want the front facing vga cam - and if an antenna mod comes out for GPS - I would like to be equiped with the best chance of getting the mod.
Can I get some opinions? Oh, side note - I travel europe1-2 months a year, if I do stay with the Cingular phone I have now - since it is mod'ed do I need to do anything different?
thanks
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thanks - Yes my main reason for changing would be for the ability to have a front facing camera and GPS capabilities. While I have read the GPS FAQ (being antenna crippled) - I believe the GPS in the unit is just fine and when paired with the UMTS data (which can provide up to 50m accuracy) - it will be a fully functioning GPS (capable of locking) - even without the antenna.
Unless anyone suggests another phone that already has the same great features + GPS operating, I will move to the TyTN
Hey everyone,
I've decided to start a post on this cuz i haven't been about to find much on this recently released phone from telus (a canadian carrier). I currently have an HTC TyTN. However, the touchscreen is completely dead. Since this phone isn't sold by any canadian carriers, it's virtually impossible to get it repaired let alone replaced.
I've recently come across the Telus HTC P4000 which was officially launced by telus in april. I noticed the specs are very similar to that of the TyTN except for the following:
-A CDMA phone without a sim card slot.
-256 mb rom vs 128 mb rom
-64 mb sdram vs 64 mb ram? (**i dunno if the hermes ram is SD)
-a QUALCOMM MSM7500, 384 MHz CPU vs a Samsung 400 MHz CPU.
I'm thinking of selling my X01HT and signing up with telus and grabbing that phone. I could really use some feedback on this idea from my fellow Hermes owners. And could use some help measuring the pros and cons.
So far the major CON of going to this phone would be that it's slightly slower and looks to have ZERO upgradability in terms of OS, RADIO, or any type of rom flashing. Meaning no sweet WM6 upgrades from custel or jasjamming or any of the other cool chefs...
Here are some links:
http://www.telusmobility.com/content/clientcare/pcs_east/guides/htc_p4000/htc_p4000.pdf
-user manual (specs can be found here as well)
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/04/17/the-htc-p4000-for-telus-in-the-flesh/
-engadgetmobile article on this phone
Any feedback or thoughts would be great. Thanks guys...
I din't know how much money you want to spend, but expansys do a good range of phones - including the dopod 838 pro (http://www.expansys.ca/)
I think most of these are phone only, without contract etc but I'm sure you can shop around for something with a contract.
Personally for my style of useage I'd spend out on one of the Hermes varieties.
You could also try ebay - maybe pick up a bargain 8525 or an old hermes to repair yours with.
Good luck
I just bought 2 HTC P4000 for some of our work phones. One has been activated so far, and it is working great. It is allot slimmer than the PPC-6700, which I had last year. I am a newbie when it comes to upgrading these things or doing hacks etc, but I am quite happy with the phone so far. If you have any specific questions please feel free to ask me and I will try to answer them for you.
thanks guys,
I passed by a telus store today to check it out. The lady was nice enough to take a brand new phone out of its box and run it for me. I got to play around with it for a while and here are my impressions which are mostly positive:
-the slid out keyboard seems to have some kind of power assist feature (not exactly but you know what i mean, think hiptop) which makes it pretty cool and easier to slid out as oppose to having to manually push up the screen till you hear it lock into place (X01HT)
-The HTC P4000 is virtually the same size except just as twelveca stated, it is slightly thinner.
-same white default htc bootscreen + a telus logo screen and wm5 setup. I doubt the possibility of any kind of upgrade unless there are some crazy chefs out there that get their hands on this phone.
-has FN and CAPS lights just like a computer keyboard!
-black keyboard, dark gray screen housing, and a bumpy pattern on the back for added grip.
-I checked out the device info screen and to my surprise, it said it has a !400! MHz CPU as oppose to the 384 MHz stated in the specs. 64 MB RAM, 256 MB Onboard Flash memory confirmed.
-From the few minutes playing with it, it seems to perform at the same level (if not better) as the HERMES.
-Doesn't show any signs of screen alignment problems.
-EVDO High speed wireless capable.
There ya have it, looks like i'm leaning towards buying it. Just have to get over the idea that i won't be able to upgrade roms (for now at least) or use sim cards...But other than that, it seems like a great phone.
Oh i just found a link to a "Complete" review of the P4000 on HF
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1153541
It includes points i forgot to mention as well as ones i didn't even know of...
Here are some of them (note these are compared to the ut starcom 6700):
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-dual core processor??
- REV A compatible (with software upgrade which Telus has officially announce they will do)
-more buttons on face and sides
-better one-handedoperation
-bigger battery
-better battery life
-better brighter screen
-better 2mp camera with improved software and settings
-AKU 3.3 which brings with it A2DP among other things
"
P4000
Just recently picked one of these up and have had a couple of days to play with it. I upgraded from an Imate PPC (original 2003 edition) and could not be happier.
This is a rock solid PPC, only wish my GPS hardware was compatable, sigh.
I was a little unsure of Telus but after my fiascos with Rogers, i dont expect them to give me half the grief.
cool, i'll be picking one up probably some time next week...just gotta figure out how i'm gunna cancel my plan with fido and transfer the number over...
...maybe we can start a new forum for this phone when more people have it...
Who that knows as to unlock Telus or P4000 ?
HTC TYTN
ji1386, how much do you want for your broken TYTN?
TYTN
ji1386, if you want to sell your broken TYTN, I could use it for parts if unable to fix it. Send me a PM with your offer. Thanks
I have this phone basically since it came out from Telus, and I must say I am quite enjoyikng it. Best Pocket PC phone out, IMO.
This phone is upgradeable to Windows Mobile 6.....however, there is no confirmed release date on when this will be. Also, checking the HTC site will most likely get you nowhere as Telus will need to configure this upgrade to have Telus aspects on there, for instance, The Telsus bootscreen, the today themes, etc.
GPS in HTC P4000
The GPS in this phone someone post what u gotta do to get GPS working on this phone in Stand Alone GPS Mode with No A-GPS.
hey guys,
so my contract with t-mobile UK expires in 2 weeks and i'm due for an upgrade. just wondering - what do you guys suggest i move to? things i'd like is in-built gps, exchange synchronization, and a full keyboard would all be nice.
tytnII is worrisome; don't know about that with all the hardware complaints on it, and i don't know whether its worth upgrading to it from the tytn...
what do you guys say?
chamelion said:
hey guys,
so my contract with t-mobile UK expires in 2 weeks and i'm due for an upgrade. just wondering - what do you guys suggest i move to? things i'd like is in-built gps, exchange synchronization, and a full keyboard would all be nice.
tytnII is worrisome; don't know about that with all the hardware complaints on it, and i don't know whether its worth upgrading to it from the tytn...
what do you guys say?
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Right now id stick with the hermes and take advantage of a free standard mobile phone for a while? the kaiser seems to be REALLY good but it doesnt feel like a big enough step up from the hermes (as i would be paying fully for a HTC device) , the only device which is tempting at the mo is the nike (Touch dual) or maybe the polaris (Touch Cruise) but they don't have the hardware keyboard im used to now.
Perhaps if we see a TyTN III over the next year(s) i may be tempted to get in there early.
chamelion said:
hey guys,
so my contract with t-mobile UK expires in 2 weeks and i'm due for an upgrade. just wondering - what do you guys suggest i move to? things i'd like is in-built gps, exchange synchronization, and a full keyboard would all be nice.
tytnII is worrisome; don't know about that with all the hardware complaints on it, and i don't know whether its worth upgrading to it from the tytn...
what do you guys say?
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If you are thinking about more screen resolution, the phones to look at are:
Eten glofiish M800 (640x480 pixels) Gps, Qwerty Keyboard
http://www.gsmarena.com/eten_glofiish_m800-2163.php
the somewhat buggy Toshiba G900 (800x480 pixels) no Gps, Qwerty Keyboard
http://www.gsmarena.com/toshiba_g900-1905.php
or the upcoming Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1 (800x480 pixels)
Gps, Qwerty Keyboard
wich is made by HTC and seem to be a slimmer Toshiba G900
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x1-2246.php
800x480 pixels resolution seems to be great to browse the web and Pdfs !!!
ok up for renewal soooo disappointed by how crap t-mobiles offers are. they're either offering me £10 off my monthly bill (after an 18 month contract) for a new 12 month contract, keep my existing phone. OR, sign up a new 18 month contract and get a couple of crap phones for free, or things like the vario III for £150.
hmm.
so i'm thinking one of:
1) renew contract with £10 off and sell my vario II (ebay, 100 quid or so?), and spend £220 on a new phone on ebay
2) screw t-mobile. switch to someone else now
3) lie in wait and see what new innovations htc comes out with
4) switch to crackberry
thoughts guys?
I decided to stay with t-mobile but switched to pay-as-you-go so I keep my number (I dont like to be rushed into a decision). My VarioII handset is still good for the job in hand. So now waiting for a good handset to appear on the market - maybe the SE Xperia X1 which will be available around Jun 2008 time.
I now have the flexibility to go back on contract (with any Provider as a NEW customer = good deals) and stay on pay-as-you-go and buy a handset. Actually, I have found pay-as-you-go is great! On TMobile I can still enjoy unlimited data package for purchasing 5day pass for £2.50 if you need it....