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MDA/XDA II Buglist

Ok, I guess quite a few of us are now usig the MDA/XDA II and have made our experiences.
I think it is time to start collecting the different bugs and "features", so that maybe the guys here can start fixing them. Maybe even O2/T-Mobile or HTC might startt doing something.
I'll start with my contributions:
1) SMS: The SMS-Application doesn't copy the "+" from the phone number when you select through the contacts application. See also: http://xda-developers.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3198
2) Bluetooth: Right now, this seems to work mostly as a marketing gag, considering the very limited profiles supported. The list of missing profiles keeps getting longer, including HFREE, PAN and others. In fact, it might make sense to collect the experiences of successful bonds in a dedicated thread.
3) BT-Headset: Even when it does work, the performance is shaky s you can see here: http://xda-developers.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3548
4) Phone On/Off: Turning the phone on/off seems to have gotten less user friendly than on the old MDA. Now you always need to get out your stylus, which can be quite a hassle when you are standing at the gate getting on a plane - with your suitcase in the other hand. See also: http://xda-developers.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3553
5) Google: Ok, this seems to be a problem on almost all WM2003 devices when I look at all the suff on the web about this issue. Still, it would be nice if it would work :wink:
6) Wireless Modem: Well, you would expect that they include the driver on the CD wouldn't you.

7. The MDA II closes open programms as soon as you open another large programm. Like a device with no memory. You cannot keep large programms open at the same time (e.g. Pocket Informant, PIE, Total Commander, aso.) , so they would be accessible more quickly if you choose them over an taskmanager.

Have a look at this, it would tell you something about this "closingbug":
http://xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3477

Xda USB Modem driver
The USB modem driver *is* on the disk. There are no drivers for Serial, Bluetooth on Infrared.
ANyway, the infrared requires a public domain add-on to work...

Hi
It seems that my XDA II turns on spurious ( not often, but sometimes), which is not nice when having it in my pocket.
Does anyone has the same experince ?

Not sure if this could be considered a bug, but I have yet to be able to receive a video MMS sent by either a P800 or a Nokia 7650. Have successfully sent one to a 7650 though. On the UK O2 network.

sorry could not post a link !
but here is a hummdinger !
try the following hit the "Wireless" icon and note how long it takes for the dialogue box to pop up then hit the "Turn the radio off" hotspot.. You will notice much longer delays before it performs the task, the same happens when you have switched it off and then attempt to "Switch the radio on". A further prob is with the Volume control....do the following...call your voicemail "long" press the green phone key, now when the speakerphone is on , reduce the volume with the side "Slider" when it is at minimum try to increase it...it don’t work you can only use the stylus on the screen, if you allow, after reducing the volume, the dialog to disappear then try to increase the volume with the slider it works again, then if with the dialogue displayed you then end the call the dialogue will appear to be stuck on screen, and only disappear after about 10 secs...

Xant said:
Hi
It seems that my XDA II turns on spurious ( not often, but sometimes), which is not nice when having it in my pocket.
Does anyone has the same experince ?
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same here. happens all the time and that´s not funny. Called O2 Tech Support and they said (of course) that i´m the first to report that problem. can´t really believe that.
it´s very annoying

Xant said:
It seems that my XDA II turns on spurious ( not often, but sometimes), which is not nice when having it in my pocket.
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Have you turned on the homezone indicator? Everytime your mobile phone changes the cell, the homezone indicator updates itself, causing the XDA to turn on.
Christian

I also have the problem of not being able to recieve a video MMS from a 7650, I phoned o2 support on Tuesday and they said they would look into it and call me back on Wednesday, Well its now Saterday and i have not had a call back from them. Its good to see they sill use the same calender where next day means we dont have a answer so we wont bother to call you back
John

Buffer full / crash on transcriber/Notepad
8.) Buffer full / crash on transcriber/Notepad
Waring: Maybe you should do a backup before you try this....
How to cause:
- Go to Notpad
- Change to "Transcriber"-recognition
- Start to enter by writing normal letter/words: >> ok, works
- Try to "fill/paint the whole Screen" without (!) removing the pen from screen: After some seconds the Buffer will be full, constant Signal will apear if you touch the screen again
- Regognition won't work anymore
How to resolve the "full buffer" (seems to be the reason for me):
- Soft reset, okay
BUT:
- Xda2 behaves unstable afterwards.
You might get messages like this:
"camera.exe is not a valid apllication"
"media player is not a valid apllication"
So you need a "hard reset" with all the data gone.
(Maybe a sync is still possible - I didn't try this yet)
Okay, maybe not a Killer-Bug.
But now it's impossible to hand over the xda2 to my friends cause' they know how to "kill" my pda
Don't know is it's a xda2-specific bug or caused by OS.
Justaname

3 bugs?: text colour, letter recogniser, transciber
Great PDA - I've had an XDA for a few days and have been using it extenisvely (having had an iPAQH3850 for 2 years). The power of having a combined PDA, phone & camera/video is great. However, I've got a couple of problems. Anyone else had them or know how to fix them? (soft reset doesn't help- I haven't tried a hard reset yet):
1) Funny coloured text: some of the letters on the screen are brown rather than black. In particular the following letter combinations: 'in' and 'll'
2) 'Ghost' characters in 'Letter recogniser' mode. I write quickly using 'Letter recogniser' mode. Sometimes a grey outline of the character I've drawn stays for a fraction longer than I'd expect so that I end up writing the next character over the previous character. More noticeable in the 'numbers/special charcters' section on the right of the letter recogniser window.
3) Change of font/script when correcting words in 'Transciber' mode. The transciber mode is not bad at recognising my handwriting scrawl. However, if a word is interpreted incorrectly and I highlight the word and then rewrite the word, the new interprtation appears lowerdown on the line than the rest of the text (like MS Word's 'subscript')

chrissi75 said:
Xant said:
It seems that my XDA II turns on spurious ( not often, but sometimes), which is not nice when having it in my pocket.
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Have you turned on the homezone indicator? Everytime your mobile phone changes the cell, the homezone indicator updates itself, causing the XDA to turn on.
Christian
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yay, that was it. thx a lot

Andy said:
chrissi75 said:
Xant said:
It seems that my XDA II turns on spurious ( not often, but sometimes), which is not nice when having it in my pocket.
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Have you turned on the homezone indicator? Everytime your mobile phone changes the cell, the homezone indicator updates itself, causing the XDA to turn on.
Christian
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yay, that was it. thx a lot
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But it is still a bug and I hope they intend to fix it, as it is rather interessting to know if I have contact to my homezone or not.

Hi
Got an other one. The alarm function seems not to work reliable. First I thought I missed the alarm due to much drinks the evening before but this morning I woke up before, but no alarm from my XDA. Instead when I turn the XDA on manually, it notified me about the alarm.
I also noticed it with a meeting.
I don't need an alarm clock I have to turn on manually...
btw... Is there some action to fix the reported bugs... either O2 or M$

new annoying bug
OK I just had a new REALLY annoying bug happen last night.
First i found that GPRS kept dialing up every time i diconnected it - i thought it must have been because ie was open in the background so i went and closed all runing programs but it still kept dialling up GPRS whenever i disconnected.
Then I received an sms but when i viewed it in Inbox, the parts of the stripy background that are usually white where really dark grey making it almost impossible to read anything on the screen... so i decided it was time for a soft reset.
but instead of soft resetting it did a hard reset so I've now got to re-install everything!!!!! :x

Pope,
The GPRS dial up could be to do with your network settings. In fact an awful lot of issues where the PDA switches on for no reason are probably that.
I've always found 'interesting' problems with ActiveSync where it switches on the PDA periodically (it's nothing specific to the XDA II as it also happened with the Fujitsu Loox and the Viewsonic V37). I always 'close' activesync (using vBar) when I'm not using it for this reason!
I recently spent ages with the XDA II trying to get it not to switch on after I'd set up a blue tooth link with my laptop. Had to change some of the network settings to stop it (but can't remember what) ... even 'resetting' the PDA hadn't fixed the problem.

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Pope, I too have had a Hard Reset occur without knowingly doing it.
As far as I am aware I did not press the power on off button, when I soft reset, and it just did a hard reset.
I was having problems with an app that froze though, and just figured it was that.
Anyone else expereienced this ?
Cheers, Shire

I installed the upgrade at www.clubimate.com
Some noticeable changes after the upgrade:-
Fast switchoff of the phone, though u still have to use the stylus
The missed call red blink of the LED stays red (at least for the few minutes I checked) instead of turning back to green after a minute as in the past
The + in SMS is added when chosing from the contacts menu. I think this was a problem in the past
I had difficulty in installing SanDisk Wi-Fi software in the previous version. Went smoothly on the upgraded one.

membership??
I tried to sign up but I don't have the EMI whatever # ... any chance you can e-mail me this fix software?
[email protected]

can't find option to disable return to today screen

* puts on noob protection *
Whenever I turn my device on, it goes back to the today screen and for the life of me cannot find any option to disable this!
I'm using LVSWs WM6 ROM.
RAH! Driving me nuts.
Thanks.

Same
I have the same problem with my PC. Every time I boot it up it goes to the desktop!
Can't work out how to stop it.

esseff said:
I have the same problem with my PC. Every time I boot it up it goes to the desktop!
Can't work out how to stop it.
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Good to know I'm not the only one. I don't think it always did this either.
Do you have HTweakC installed?

ok I am a little lost here if you put your device in standby it will awake to what ever screen was there before it went to sleep. If you power your phone off completely it HAS to start at the today screen thats just how it boots up... try using the ROM i have posted in the forum in my SIG since i have no issues with it.

austinsnyc said:
ok I am a little lost here if you put your device in standby it will awake to what ever screen was there before it went to sleep. If you power your phone off completely it HAS to start at the today screen thats just how it boots up... try using the ROM i have posted in the forum in my SIG since i have no issues with it.
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Lol. yours is actually the ROM I'm using.

j0dan said:
* puts on noob protection *
Whenever I turn my device on, it goes back to the today screen and for the life of me cannot find any option to disable this!
I'm using LVSWs WM6 ROM.
RAH! Driving me nuts.
Thanks.
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I'm not sure that we are understanding your question properly. I can see some of those replying above are puzzled as well.
As Austinsync says above if you turn on after normal sleep mode you return to the screen you were on before. If you fully powered off (not something you should be doing in regular use) then it will go to the today screen.
So, when you start up your device what screen do you expect to see if it's not the today screen?
Mike

I believe I undestand the OP because I have the same problem. No matter what you have loaded, after going into standby the phone returns to the Today screen. The original active app is still loaded, but not in the foreground.
I have tracked the problem down to either pocketbreeze or Handyswitcher. I'll test more when I return from the business trip I am currently on.
Regards,
Marcelo

mfabre said:
I believe I undestand the OP because I have the same problem. No matter what you have loaded, after going into standby the phone returns to the Today screen. The original active app is still loaded, but not in the foreground.
I have tracked the problem down to either pocketbreeze or Handyswitcher. I'll test more when I return from the business trip I am currently on.
Regards,
Marcelo
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Hmm.. I'm not using either of those programs. As for software running, I'm using HTC X-Button, phonealarm and spb tools.

I just flashed a different ROM. Older LVSW modified by austinsync this time. Same problem!

I just flashed the LVSW by Sleuth255 and it doesn't do this!
It seems to have been a problem with all of austinsync's ROMs. Phone starts up MUCH quicker now too!
EDIT: I just remembered that the customizations from EXTROM didn't run with Sleuth255's ROM. Could be part of it.

I have the same problem with Schap's Rom (3.57). Anyone else?

My .02.
I recently hard-reset my Schap's 3.57 ROM and have installed minimal software that interact with the Today screen. Before hard-resetting the device, my system would also go to the Today screen whenever my device came out of standby. After the hard-reset, it no longer goes to the Today screen until after the timeout period defined in the Today Settings.
Before Hard-Reset on Today Screen:
Office Communicator
Windows Live Search
Activesync Exchange Server Direct Push
Palm Messaging
After Hard-Reset on Today Screen:
Palm Messaging
No Data Connection or Direct Push
Hope this helps.
Murad
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Running Schap's 3.57 ROM, not the Official HTC WM6 ROM (as in my signature)

I really don't have this problem!
OS see my signature

I just had to hard-reset (Schap's 3.54b), and the device still goes to today screen. Gaaaahhhh!!!

This is also being discussed here.
mikechannon suggested this might only happen when you're using device lock? My exchange admin requires it - I have a device lock and I also use Zenyee Stayunlock to allow me to adjust my settings...

turn off completely

Hello,
usually with newer PDAs - that originally come with WM5/6 - you can turn them off completely (makes sense during the night for example).
Is this possible with BlueAngel - upgraded with WM5/6 (Helmi) somehow ?
thank you.

no you cant turn them off 100%
windows mobile was made to keep running
no matter what to keep the clock running
to keep notifications being able to start and play their alarm
and to turn on to let calls come in

incubus72 said:
Hello,
usually with newer PDAs - that originally come with WM5/6 - you can turn them off completely (makes sense during the night for example).
Is this possible with BlueAngel - upgraded with WM5/6 (Helmi) somehow ?
thank you.
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It makes sense to stop PDA completely if you are using it just for word, excel or as a music player, but if you are using it as a phone, clock and alarm unit, instant emails, then you cant turn it off completely though it can go to Power Save mode.

Turn down the volume, turn on flightmode and put into standby. Of course, alerts and notifications can still occur (That's the point!) but they won't bother you.
There's no actual need to turn it off completely.

hello,
i would like to turn off completely since
- every time when a notification comes up - the screen turns on - and sometimes it happens that i hit the screen or a button in the pocket ...
- i'd like to save battery
but i guess that's not pissible ?
thank you.

Yes, it is possible, but not the way you would like it: Take the battery out for a second, and then put it back. Device won't turn itself on. So far this is the only method. This device was never meant to be used with WM5/6, that's why it does not support many of the required features of this OS.

Hello,
i like the idea with the akku. but one more thing: what about the internal backup- akku ?
when i take the (normal) akku out - and put it back in - does the device run on the backup-battery until i turn the device on - or does it recognize immediately the (normal) akku is there, and uses it ?
you know, or do i have to try ?
thank you very much.
andreas

Take the battery out to save battery life - you'll lose some settings (namely the clock) but nothing major. Though the standby life is good.
Also, lock the device and tell it not to allow any other button pushed when locked. Should do the trick

incubus72 said:
hello,
i would like to turn off completely since
- every time when a notification comes up - the screen turns on - and sometimes it happens that i hit the screen or a button in the pocket ...
- i'd like to save battery
but i guess that's not pissible ?
thank you.
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As others said - turn all radio off in the comm manager. then just lock the screen (on to today screen, tap on "Device unlocked"). Now, even if the device comes on, there's no problem. And battery consumption is minimal, I think. Oh, and change "Start-Settings-Buttons-Lock" to "Lock all buttons expect power button".
Stefan

activsync always in the background!

Hi,
The last couple of days I have noticed the back bottom of my phone getting quite hot and the battery running down very quickly, Ive had a play around and the ony thing that is constant is activsync running in the background, I never use activsync so I dont know why its running but its really starting to piss me off now.
My battery is down to 79% and ive only made 1 quick call and sent 2 msg's in the last 4 hours!
Can I disable activsync completely? Like I said I never use it, if I want to put something on the SD card I put it on the card and I use MyPhone to back my stuff up!
thanks for any help!

for me it´s the same pproblem....any idea ?

There was a thread about manilla consuming more power than the original Win6.5 interface. I thought the same and I think the presence of Activesync always open in the background in Manilla is one of the reasons for this.
When I close Manilla and use 'Titanium' power consumption is less.
When I use Manilla it does not matter when I open the taskmanager but Activesync is always running and therefore trying to sync and using power.
Anybody can state this or, hopefully, has a solution.
PS. The old trick, fooling with a non excisting server, does not work.

If you open the activesync app (start, tools, activesync) then you can set the schedule options to manual. I've had a play this morning, and I can't remember what you have to do to enable the schedule menu item, so I can't help you any more I'm afraid. This bugged me on my HD before my HD2, and my Diamond before that, but I've never had the problem on my HD2. That's how I've fixed it previously anyway.
Incidentally, I doubt it actually uses much power. It's just a service that sits there and waits for activesync events. I don't think it actually does anything until it's needed.
Good luck!

Freezing and crushing fixed

Hello everybody!
I am new on HTC products and I got by first my HTC HD2, wich had the same freezing and turning off problems that usually a lot of HD2's users have.
But I managed to fix my problem and I joined XDA dev. to share this with other people who might find this useful.
PS. I don't know if some of this steps are not involved on the solution but I'll put them all to make sure the same process I did for fixing it happens.
First I updated the ROM version, I would recomendto use only official roms, either the HTC HD2 normal version, or the HTC HD2 T-Mobile version, wich they both are free on their web pages. PLEASE DO NOT MIX THE ROMS, DON'T INSTALL THE T-MOBILE VERSION ON THE OTHER HD2 TYPE OR THE HD2 NORMAL VERSION ROM ON THE T-MOBILE ONE.
since it might overheat and freeze during the actualization, select "not charge the phone when it's on" or something like that on the configs. for not to overheat the phone, plus, I putted a small CPU fan near the phone to make sure it doesn't overheat during the process (with the back cover off).
Then, after the actualization, turn the phone off... let it cool off for 10 mins, or 5 if you are using a fan to help the cooling....
when it's on, go to the screen config, disable the auto-brightness, and put it manually in 20% wich seems good enough ilumination for the screen and doesn't overheat's it.
then, only if you don't need it, disable the GPS servise, wich forces the overheating too...
Once done this, install the program CleanRam, wich is free and only have to pass the .cab file to the phone and run it from there. Then, look for the program on the start menu, enter the CleanRam config Program, tap menu, tap backup/restore, tap select settings, tap htc hd 2. done.
Now go to the Start, tap settings, tap menu, all settings, tap today, tap items, then dissable HTC Sense and enable Windows Default. Then Ok.
Now you have the default Windows appearance.
Let your phone cool off... when it's cold again. Run the CleanRam. Now you will have a period of time (1 day to be sure) that you will do only basic stuff with your phone (take pics, no vid!, call, send sms, listen to music (windows media player only!) and other basic stuff. REMEMBER! everytime you close an aplication, go to the task manager and end the program from there.
WARNING: Make sure to run the CleanRam at least each 5 or 10 mins when using the phone. And make sure to turn the screen off evertime end changin to the song u wanted or things like that.
After 24 to 30 hours of this "Pasive User Mode" wich I call xD.... go to configs again, menu, all settings, today, enable HTC Sense again. Ok.
Now you have the HTC Sense Appearance again. Wait 20 secs.... Run CleanRam. Now wait for your phone to cool off......
Now turn it off...... wait 3 mins. Turn it on, run CleanRam.....
Done! It's working fine, and it would not freeze or turn off... it will heat a little but as usual.
Always remember to keep on ending programs with task manager when not using them and running CleanRam when you the phone has worked too much lately.... Hope it works for you... it did for me... and my HTC HD2 is working as better than ever!

Nice to read your happy with the phone, I love mine
I use Indie Roms and without any of the steps above , other than closing unused apps my phone is stable 2>3 days between charges on light to medium use and almost never freezes - stock roms are ok, but some of the cooked roms are great
thanks for your thoughts