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Upgrade RAM?

I was wondering if there was any way to upgrade the RAM in my Mogul. I have advanced soldering skills and am not new to disassembling larger complex devices such as the Mogul and would feel comfortable doing so if the benefits outweighed the risks.
The HTC Kaiser and HTC Touch Dual both have 128Mbs of RAM. Is it possible that the RAM card has the same circuit layout and is the same physical size as the 64Mb card that is installed in the Mogul? If it is then it should be possible to swap these out and I would like to try it.
Does anyone here know the exact specifications of these 2 on-board RAM cards?

Wow will be nice to know and where to get the ram chip if possible to swap new on.

i can possibly find the mogul specs for you
is this a service you want to offer others??

Dependent upon price and possibility, I would gladly pay for an upgrade to 128mb...

xweaponx said:
Dependent upon price and possibility, I would gladly pay for an upgrade to 128mb...
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Ditto.
If it's not possible to upgrade the RAM now, make a way for it to be possible. This is the World, we as a human race can solve a problem as simple and small as this.

Pocketpctechs.com offers this service for other devices, but not the Mogul. Considering how much money they'd make if it was possible, something tells me it's not gonna happen.
That said, I would definitely pay good money to add more RAM.

bigray327 said:
Pocketpctechs.com offers this service for other devices, but not the Mogul. Considering how much money they'd make if it was possible, something tells me it's not gonna happen.
That said, I would definitely pay good money to add more RAM.
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So, I want PocketPCTechs to outline to us in detail why it can't be done. IF we have the technicals on why it's not possible, then this question won't be coming up time and time again.

neilson said:
So, I want PocketPCTechs to outline to us in detail why it can't be done. IF we have the technicals on why it's not possible, then this question won't be coming up time and time again.
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Yeah, I'd love to hear the details too. It can't be any harder than soldering in a new damn chip. I've emailed them, but am not holding my breath for a reply.
Hell, *HTC* should offer the service as pennance for releasing this POS in the first place.

there's always "a way"... the only question is who will figure it out first. Even if it perhaps would be to use the main storage as a virtual drive similar to a hard disk on a computer, that would be awesome.
I'd absolutely pay good $ to get 128mb of ram on my xv6800.
or a 2nd processor!!

If I found it was possible then there is a possibility that I might offer it as an upgrade as long as I can get my own done (and done right) before chancing anyone else's device. I really like the titan but the lack of RAM is killing me...

dharvey4651 said:
I was wondering if there was any way to upgrade the RAM in my Mogul. I have advanced soldering skills and am not new to disassembling larger complex devices such as the Mogul and would feel comfortable doing so if the benefits outweighed the risks.
The HTC Kaiser and HTC Touch Dual both have 128Mbs of RAM. Is it possible that the RAM card has the same circuit layout and is the same physical size as the 64Mb card that is installed in the Mogul? If it is then it should be possible to swap these out and I would like to try it.
Does anyone here know the exact specifications of these 2 on-board RAM cards?
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If I had to guess,and its just a guess,I would guess the ram is like the ram in my samsung a920. A typical thing to see in these devices is a BGA chip. The real trick is knowing if the phone will recognize a larger one if it was soldered in.

pflatlyne said:
The real trick is knowing if the phone will recognize a larger one if it was soldered in.
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Oh crap I hadn't thought of that.

I have sent a message to PocketPCTechs about upgrading the RAM on our Moguls and whether or not it is physically possible seeing as how the Touch Dual, Vogue, and also the TyTN II both have 128Mb of RAM.

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dharvey4651 said:
I have sent a message to Pocket PCTechs about upgrading the RAM on our Moguls and whether or not it is physically possible seeing as how the Touch Dual, Vogue, and also the TyTN II both have 128Mb of RAM.
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No I'm just going to throw this out there but the last physical replacement ram upgrade i have ever seen is the wallaby, which i have.
But from my experience its always been an upgrade or a driver that cut the full potential of the ram loose. I believe with out question that the titan which i posses has the capability to be 128 hence the other phones similar to it.
How ever being that the battery status has caused me many sleepless nights on the mogul due to its make up. So my hands on theory for this particular phone is only speculation.
i have used ppc techs tsk driver on numerous phones including the sph-i700 for samsung and it was a night and day difference
I will say this that from all the the boards i have seen and all the new products there is a logical reason why they keep these phones toned down i still hit almost every one of my phones with the moloski tweak just start my mods. I would have to say that the upgeade lies with in simply because htc never maxes out any of the phones

Would/is it be possible to somehow link memory from your SD card to your RAM? Or is ROM and RAM defined under specific hardware profiles? If a hack or mod could be made to utilize 64mb of ram for program usage using your SD card...
all would be well. Just a thought. Input?

Boy did I set the ball in motion... I really hope this is possible. If its a driver issue then that would be awesome but even a Solder-in ram card would be better than nothing.

swapfile
xweaponx said:
Would/is it be possible to somehow link memory from your SD card to your RAM? Or is ROM and RAM defined under specific hardware profiles? If a hack or mod could be made to utilize 64mb of ram for program usage using your SD card...
all would be well. Just a thought. Input?
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i would def consider the possibility of having a swapfile which is what you are talking about. The problem would lie in the latency with the sd card or rom i would think a 66x card or faster would work somewhat but i am not sure if wm6 already does with rom. That could be why it slows to a hault when memory is low but the idea is not new and should be something that could be done on software level to create virtual ram like i said though physical ram would be best. For an idea on the performance of sd card google readyboost as that is what microsoft calls it for vista.
p.s. You are def on to something because if they already do utilize virtual mem then it could be optimized or moved on to a high speed sd card which i think would have better write speeds then rom.

Anymore info on this? This would be great!!

pastert33 said:
Anymore info on this? This would be great!!
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I was told by PPCTechs that it is not possible. That is all they said.

acidfire52 said:
I was told by PPCTechs that it is not possible. That is all they said.
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Same here, but all that really means is that they're not willing to do it. I bet some enterprising soul that's willing to risk his 6800 could solder in the same RAM chip the Touch uses and it would work.
I'm willing to donate $20 or so to any serious R&D endeavor.

RAM Upgrade possible ?

I´ve heared that, if good soldering skills are there, an Ram Upgrade is possible to the Wizard...
Is this also possible for the Herald ? Did anybody ever see that ?
I would give it a try, if the Kernel or CPU was able to...

I don't think it's possible for the Wizard, either. I know it's possible for some other phones like the universal, I think, because the motherboard of the phone has a space for another memory chip that was never installed by HTC. I believe our phone's motherboard has no such thing.

I remember reading somewhere saying it is possible to upgrade both the processor and memory in the HTC Herald when we order it directly from HTC. I don't remember the source now, but I think it's somewhere in Europe. Being say that, maybe we can just replace the memory chip with the better one? I don't know if this is even possible since I never looked into the inside of the phone. I would be awesome if someone actually try to do it and report it back.

Upgrading things like that is not as simple as it is in a computer. To cut costs, the manufacturer avoids adding hardware support for anything but the hardware that they solder into the motherboard. I'm not saying that it's not possible, but it's highly improbable.

I have an extra t-mobile wing motherboard laying around, i am willing to try to do some soldering to replace the old cpu or ram with a better one if anyone can show me where i can buy them or if any other HTC phone with a higher cpu is compatible with the t-mobile wing motherboard, i have done alot of soldering before... let me know if you find anything, Thanks

Have you thought upgrading your dream?

Have you ever thought to g1 upgrade, the cpu replaced 1ghz, put all the rom and ram replaced 512mb. Rom the time that the production of not so many limitations, and is not it?
If anyone knows how to upgrade, we share ah. Let g1 youth forever in.
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how is that even possible?

yoshitoshi said:
how is that even possible?
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i'm sure it's possible.
mind you, the equipment required to do such an upgrade would mean you could probably build your own phone from scratch anyway.

yeaa that would be awesome, snapdragon dream lol. a nexus wif a keyboard lolzz

DIY a Gphone?

looktall said:
i'm sure it's possible.
mind you, the equipment required to do such an upgrade would mean you could probably build your own phone from scratch anyway.
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I seriously think its a long shot. I dont think a huge group of engineers at HTC with the detailed hardware knowledge of the board, the pinmuxes, clocks etc can do it in a months time. If you want to try it, sure, go ahead.

Very possible. I was reading a thread the other day about restoring a bricked phone from the hardware pov. Still not possible, but the motherboard is mapped. However, you can't just go buy phone RAM or a new processor. Also say HTC made a phone just like the g1 except with 3 gigs of RAM, I doubt that RAM would be compatible with the g1. I hope that's what this thread is about. 3:31 A.M. ftw?

as an electrical engineering student
yes its possible
no its not feasible to do it efficiently enough to finish within ..say... 5 years by yourself

If you want to make a living of repairing phones and other electronics, it's a good place to start , even if it's very hard thing to do... If you think you will save money , you wont. The MB of the dream is pretty small and it will be hard to work on but not impossible.

looktall said:
i'm sure it's possible.
mind you, the equipment required to do such an upgrade would mean you could probably build your own phone from scratch anyway.
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Wouldnt that mean the ROMS need to change also? That would also be the hardest part, right? Not an engineering student but I am sure it is not as simple as it sounds.
I am sure there would be willing donors for such an attempt to stock RAM chips and processors and do all the work. Even if it was a bundled package with a price tag on it, I am sure people would willingly pay for it. However, the more realistic option, I think, is to be contented with overclocking the processor, if that is made practically possible. Here's hoping for the best.

erlern said:
Wouldnt that mean the ROMS need to change also? That would also be the hardest part, right? Not an engineering student but I am sure it is not as simple as it sounds.
I am sure there would be willing donors for such an attempt to stock RAM chips and processors and do all the work. Even if it was a bundled package with a price tag on it, I am sure people would willingly pay for it. However, the more realistic option, I think, is to be contented with overclocking the processor, if that is made practically possible. Here's hoping for the best.
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I say: You can better spent your time working lets say... 80 hours to buy a new device then spent 12.000 hours to upgrade a CPU, make new drivers to handle the CPU (the same counts for upgrading RAM).
But if you haven't got a job nor a life... feel free to try. It's not like a PC with swappable parts... It's all baked on 2 or 3 chips with techniques you can't find in your own living room (it's simply too small to soldering it yourself).
But that's just my opinion... feel free to try.

Sure, been conidered. Not sure the dream is ideal for it, but i'd love it if a company were to start designing with it in mind. Maybe something more meant as a dev prototype like the zii trinity but yeah. Hell, I remember first thing I did was start looking into hardwiring a 3.5 jack because I keep misplacing my adapters.

when i had an mda varia they discovered it was possible to change the ram chip for a larger one from another device, there was a company that woiuld do it for you, thoiugh it was expensive and to do it yourself required specilised soldering equipment to remove the old chip and fit the new one.
It could be possible usually its just easier and more cost efficient though to just get a new device.

i really wouldnt say this belongs in the development section - coz put bluntly - its just fantasy
i too am an electronic engineering student - and i have taken apart my spare G1
and from looking at it - it could be done in theory, but you would have one hell of a time desoldering, resoldering and reprogramming your phone
the equipment costs £1000s to do the job correctly and there is no guarantee that it would work
like - putting a core2duo into a pentium 2 board - not gonna work
pinouts, pinnumbers, pinspacing, chip size
too many things standing in the way

1GB hidden ROM memory??

Someone knows if you have got 1Gb ROM hidden the hd2? or are you working for finding the "hidden ROM"?(if the phone has got it). Sorry for my english
Greetings yo all

adrianfly said:
Someone knows if you have got 1Gb ROM hidden the hd2? or are you working for finding the "hidden ROM"?(if the phone has got it). Sorry for my english
Greetings yo all
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That's almost like asking: "anyone found god somewhere?"

appelflap said:
That's almost like asking: "anyone found god somewhere?"
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hehehe made my day. But to answer the original poster, no.

Well sayin that, i think its a fair question from the OP. i dont know why he is being shot down so quickly.
We already all know now that our EU LEO's come with the 576 ram like the US LEO's, so why is it so unrealistic to assume that they might ship with the same rom aswell? (just software locked away)
Has anyone actually confirmed that the chip on the main logic board is 100% deffinatley a 512mb rom yet? (i believe some dedicated forum members are looking into it at this moment)
Until this is confirmed aswell, im still open to the idea that HTC just shipped that same phone to us in the EU that the US are getting aswell.
Its not Impossible guys.

aikon359 said:
Well sayin that, i think its a fair question from the OP. i dont know why he is being shot down so quickly.
We already all know now that our EU LEO's come with the 576 ram like the US LEO's, so why is it so unrealistic to assume that they might ship with the same rom aswell? (just software locked away)
Has anyone actually confirmed that the chip on the main logic board is 100% deffinatley a 512mb rom yet? (i believe some dedicated forum members are looking into it at this moment)
Until this is confirmed aswell, im still open to the idea that HTC just shipped that same phone to us in the EU that the US are getting aswell.
Its not Impossible guys.
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While I am loath to think that HTC would do something like this, Intel does it all the time...
...so it's not unheard of...

Spike15 said:
While I am loath to think that HTC would do something like this, Intel does it all the time...
...so it's not unheard of...
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There is nothing loathsome about it, HTC published the specs and we paid the money, it isn't like they delivered an inferior product to what they claimed.
In fact... they gave us more for the price we paid and if it is actually 1GB of ROM... well oh boy, triple booting WM6.6, Android and Maemo anyone?

i just still cant figure out HTC's reasoning for crippling the eu phone at release though. its strange. Surely it took them more time and resources to try and hide that extra 128mb ram instead of just releasing it with its full compliment.
Maybe t-mobile usa made an agreement with HTC just prior to the original relase in the eu so they could have what appears to be a superior unit.
At that point, instead of changing the manufacturing process and parts (thus costing them more money to reorder different nand chips) they just software crippled the EU version so the usa Model looked better on release.
The mind boggles lol!

@Beastage - I like the way you think ;-) im just holding out patiently for the awesome devs here to crack the hard ole task of booting Anroid onto the HD2 (fingers crossed when the HTC Bravo **im pretty sure it was the bravo at least lol** is released, someone will rip the rom from that and possibly port it over, seein as the bravo appears to basically be a reworked HD2 eh. 0_0 )

Beastage said:
There is nothing loathsome about it, HTC published the specs and we paid the money, it isn't like they delivered an inferior product to what they claimed.
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I guess you're an uneducated bumpkin who thinks "loath" and "loathe" have the same meaning.
I said: "[...] I am loath to think that HTC would [...]".
What this merely meant was that I was reluctant to think that HTC would put hardware in a device, and then lock the use of said hardware out in software, due to the fact I don't like this practice.
I have no problems with the specs I paid for, nor do I have a problem with the specs changing for the T-Mobile HD2, the only problem I have is with them advertising one set of specs, delivering a device with hardware in excess of the specs, and then making the software make the hardware appear to be in-line with the advertised specs.

aikon359 said:
i just still cant figure out HTC's reasoning for crippling the eu phone at release though. its strange. Surely it took them more time and resources to try and hide that extra 128mb ram instead of just releasing it with its full compliment.
Maybe t-mobile usa made an agreement with HTC just prior to the original relase in the eu so they could have what appears to be a superior unit.
At that point, instead of changing the manufacturing process and parts (thus costing them more money to reorder different nand chips) they just software crippled the EU version so the usa Model looked better on release.
The mind boggles lol!
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"Crippling" implies it was intentionally... they may just have run out of development time for the product and needed to release it without the additional memory address registers for the full RAM to be utilised. Between the Euro launch and USA launch they are releasing new firmware and radio's and because of this we are able to access the additional RAM (2.02 ROM and 2.06 Radio)
Alternatively maybe they were having confliction somewhere when the extra RAM was addressed so they chose to limit it to a stable amount to make sure the HD2 release went on time in Europe/Asia... and therefore I suppose that could be classed as crippling the device but also making it stable.

aikon359 said:
Well sayin that, i think its a fair question from the OP. i dont know why he is being shot down so quickly.
We already all know now that our EU LEO's come with the 576 ram like the US LEO's, so why is it so unrealistic to assume that they might ship with the same rom aswell? (just software locked away)
Has anyone actually confirmed that the chip on the main logic board is 100% deffinatley a 512mb rom yet? (i believe some dedicated forum members are looking into it at this moment)
Until this is confirmed aswell, im still open to the idea that HTC just shipped that same phone to us in the EU that the US are getting aswell.
Its not Impossible guys.
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I didn't intend to shot the OP down. I think it's a rather metaphysical question at the moment. But at this point I want to declare myself agnostic. I don't see the point of not asking questions about the hidden ghost in our machines, but I don't embrase them either.
I'm happy with my device as it is... but, on the other hand, the more the better of cause
It's a rather philosophical question about the attitude towards technology. I like Heideggers standpoint on this: we should say yes and no to it (lol, speaking of off-topic reactions...)

im deffinatley with you on that one appleflap ;-)
the more i can squeeze out of this device the better ;-)
fingers crossed with whats going on, it seems to be a good year for the hd2!
1: 576 ram instead of 448
2: possible 1gb rom instead of 512
3: full n spec wireless
4: possible fm transmitter
5: android at some point
6: WM 7
God it feels like christmas came early lol

if i were htc executive i will talk to ms whether 512mb ram enough for wm7 or not. then ms will say to me wm7 needs 1gb ram . so htc please make device to support ms coz i want many peop;e to use my products. hows this? u think htc executive is stupid?

koong32 said:
if i were htc executive i will talk to ms whether 512mb ram enough for wm7 or not. then ms will say to me wm7 needs 1gb ram . so htc please make device to support ms coz i want many peop;e to use my products. hows this? u think htc executive is stupid?
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No, I don't think "htc executive" is stupid, but that's not how business works. They'd be more likely to sell us something now that will not run WM7, so that we have to buy something else at the end of the year that will support it. Don't forget, by the time WM7 comes out the HD2 will have been out for about a year. If there is 1GB of ROM there (and I really, really don't think there is, but would love to be wrong), I seriously doubt it's got anything to do with WM7.

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No, I don't think "htc executive" is stupid, but that's not how business works. They'd be more likely to sell us something now that will not run WM7, so that we have to buy something else at the end of the year that will support it. Don't forget, by the time WM7 comes out the HD2 will have been out for about a year. If there is 1GB of ROM there (and I really, really don't think there is, but would love to be wrong), I seriously doubt it's got anything to do with WM7.
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But then again, htc could not be stupid in another way. Maybe their strategy is as follows: bring a powerful device on the market (most powerful at the current moment) and reveal more horsepower when the competitors are coming with their answers. I think that is marketing strategy that could really work. Especially when you've created a broad user-base for a particular device.

aikon359 said:
i just still cant figure out HTC's reasoning for crippling the eu phone at release though. its strange.
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That might be far-fetched, but *could* have to do with taxing. In certain countries in Europe, like mine, digital devices are taxed on the amount of memory they hold. The tax amount is pretty high as well, and since this was introduced the majority of MP3 players and phones have gone the "small onboard memory with memory card slot" way, sometimes even bundling them with a memory card to get around the tax...
So this could be related, keeping the amount of memory under X allowing to either avoid the tax in the said countries, or at least stay below a certain tax level...
When they introduced it, it more or less killed the home set-top DVD recorders with HDD, as for example the price for a 250GB model that would cost $300 (before tax) was taxed an insane extra $100...

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But then again, htc could not be stupid in another way. Maybe their strategy is as follows: bring a powerful device on the market (most powerful at the current moment) and reveal more horsepower when the competitors are coming with their answers. I think that is marketing strategy that could really work. Especially when you've created a broad user-base for a particular device.
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These are all relevant arguments, and they all have up-sides and down-sides. For example, how unhappy would you be if after having a HD2 for say 8 months, HTC turn round and say "Here... run this. It will double your ROM size." Although you'd be grateful, I bet you'd be annoyed too, remembering all those times you were nearly out of storage space, insisting on not installing marketplace apps and having to manually move caches to your storage card!
Let's simply agree that business decisions very rarely make sense to the people they actually affect.

u all know, that there will be 2 versions of the WM7.. one business and one multimedia.. i think, when the WM7 comes out, then we get just the business bcs. it will not need so many space, and the 1GB version gets the multimedia.. we will see..
PS: when u look on the PSP u see.. when it came out, the CPU was?? and now?

some of you keep saying that the EU models shipped with the hidden ram that the usa version has, does this mean that the asian versions do not have the extra ram hidden away?
thanks

DTDK said:
some of you keep saying that the EU models shipped with the hidden ram that the usa version has, does this mean that the asian versions do not have the extra ram hidden away?
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it has the hidden ram are in hd2 worldwide version and it was first discovered in an asian hd2 just flash the proper radio and hav fun

Thread Closed! Will the samsung focus have an android development?

ive noticed the galaxyS/Captivate and the Focus are very similar in hardware except for the memory card syncing with the phone itself and the cpu focus:snapdragon / galaxys/captivate hummingbird, so i was wondering if anyone is working on it already or maybe attempting to gather information on a new beginning for this phones journey into xda

dahrat said:
ive noticed the galaxyS/Captivate and the Focus are very similar in hardware except for the memory card syncing with the phone itself and the cpu focus:snapdragon / galaxys/captivate hummingbird, so i was wondering if anyone is working on it already or maybe attempting to gather information on a new beginning for this phones journey into xda
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I havent heard anything about anyone trying to port android to the focus or any WP7 phones yet...but it may come in the future...im not sure if its possible or not...but im pretty sure these XDA devs can make it happen.

i hope xda is the first i might not post much and lurk more but if its any site i want to see catch a big fish its here <3

dahrat said:
i hope xda is the first i might not post much and lurk more but if its any site i want to see catch a big fish its here <3
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If anybody does it first it will be here!

android on WP7
Theoretically is possible now that the WP7 is jailbraked.... it just has to be installed as a partition on the drive, as we can no longer run it from within WP7 and get all its features running. This is because WP7 will not let you stop processes that belong to other apps like phone or the UI so android can be booted like we do on WM (correct me if I'm wrong.....I don't think I am). Also the encoding of wp7 storage is tricky and partitioning it is hard....ask the guys trying to install WP7 on the HD2.....I'm pretty sure that we will see it done very soon as it only needs a loader program in the beginning of the phone to choose your operating system...like we see when we have Linux and windows on our PC.
As for the other part of this is the drivers that are not developed in droid for the focus.....maybe the captivate looks like the same phone but inside can be a hole new ball game. We have a led flash on our cameras which something tells me the camera is not the same. The captivate have a hummingbird processor as the focus has a snapdragon (but i don't think this would be a problem as a lot of other DROIDs have snapdragon). Samsung maybe just "semi-cloned" the look of the device because the captivate is one of the most selling phones they got. The internals can be completely different

Hi All
I was hoping someone might know if there has been any development on the Samsung Focus as far as getting Android on to it and getting WP7 off?
I've got the option of taking a Captivate but I really like the SnapDragons and I prefer the outer case of the Focus.
Anyone heard anything more about Android on the Focus recently?

Anyone know? I'm going to give this phone back today if not as I have searched and searched and can't find anything on it :-(

Latz said:
I've got the option of taking a Captivate but I really like the SnapDragons and I prefer the outer case of the Focus.
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Why? Hummingbird is faster than SnapDragon in many ways (the only reason Focus does not use Hummingbird is because WP7 only support SnapDragon chip at this time). If you want Android, get Captivate or other Android phones. There is no sense to spend money to buy a WP7 phone and hack it that way. Although Android is open source, phone hardware drivers are not. Devs can only working on getting ROMs assembled using phones with similar hardware. But Samsung never has any Snapdragon android phone before.

LOL how would you go about partitioning off the memory? With the way WP7 integrate external memory with the internal memory? Thus there would be no storage because you can't even see anything stored on the SD. Androids also run on a 4 button system, WP7's have only 3. Some of the hardware isn't the same, and even every galaxy class phone has diffrent hardware. Go buy and android phone or an HD2 if you hell bent on running 2 OS. Also if you would've read the WP7 development forum as to why not to ask this question you'd know why they are not doing it.

Here's your answer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949042

foxbat121 said:
There is no sense to spend money to buy a WP7 phone and hack it that way.
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There's plenty of sense if you prefer the look of the phone over the android equivalent? Besides, a lot of us (including me) bought the HTC HD2 as a WinMo then changed it to run Android when we could have just bought Android phones?
foxbat121 said:
.......Devs can only working on getting ROMs assembled using phones with similar hardware.........
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They managed to get Android working on the HD2 which has a Snapdragon?

ITDRAGON said:
LOL how would you go about partitioning off the memory? With the way WP7 integrate external memory with the internal memory? Thus there would be no storage because you can't even see anything stored on the SD. Androids also run on a 4 button system, WP7's have only 3. Some of the hardware isn't the same, and even every galaxy class phone has diffrent hardware. Go buy and android phone or an HD2 if you hell bent on running 2 OS. Also if you would've read the WP7 development forum as to why not to ask this question you'd know why they are not doing it.
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I'm sorry I must be missing something? all the link says is to read the stickies, would you mind pointing me to the forum that they are referring to? I have searched but mustn't be typing in the correct string...
Oh, on the point of WP7's memory allocation - I think you need to read up on it a bit more too as there is a way you can seperate the SD.
Got a captivate yesterday anyway... not sure if I'll keep it though, might move to the Desire HD - it's much more like my HD2 which I really liked.

Latz said:
They managed to get Android working on the HD2 which has a Snapdragon?
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Because the HD2 Android counter part, EVO, is a Snapdragon phone. I said Samsung does not have a Snapdragon Android phone out there. It is very difficult to use ROM parts from other manufacturers.
Remember Devs are mostly called Chefs. They mix and pick different parts and assemble them into ROMs. They are not developing them like from source code to ROMs. They can only work on the parts that are offered by phone makers, not from scratch.

Thread Closed! Hardware may be very similar but the architecture is very different. Would be too much of a time consuming job regardless for the moment. This question has also been asked many times. Please search the Windows Phone 7 related forums before posting. Thanks.