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what do we know so far about the X2 (first pic in now out june 3rd)

edit: first pics are out nowhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/03/sony-ericsson-x2-spotted/
this is just my wishlist:
-much faster internal flash memory. installing a cab or launching an app takes same time as much as the 6-yearold HTC-magican
-Same form factor (sliding keybord)
-Screen should be at least 3.2” without increasing the total size of the phone. Seems doable if they optimize the unused space and relocate some of the buttons to the side. 3.2” should be the new 2.8. 3.2 is also much friendlier for hand use and easier on the eyes
- faster CPU. Samsung already using 624mhz and asus will use 800mhz very soon
- built in falsh should be at least 2 or 4 GB just for convenience+ the sd card.
- jogdial and maybe an extra button on the side (record, comm., ok…etc) to improve usability with 1 hand use
- keyboard needs a fifth raw with a slight increase in button travel distance.
- the panels is bloated and takes too much memory and slow. It needs to be optimized
- accelerometer. Too many developers are starting to make use of this
- very quick release date. Its not like we are asking them to do a totally new hardware. All these things seem like tweeks to the current model. No later than first half of 09

Over at esato, there are rumours that SE is already working on its new xperia which will come with wm7, have a 5mp cam and will be based on qualcomm snapdragon 8250. I wish that it is true.

faster CPU. Samsung already using 624mhz and asus will use 800mhz very soon
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I would'nt say that too loud, the Qualcomm chipset features the 528mhz ARM11 based CPU with a 274MHz ARM9 coprocessor, and dont forget to mention the ATI Imageon although it doesnt get much use on WM6.
The Samsung is a older generation Xscale processor. Compared to each other, there wouldn't be an noticable difference afaik, probably the Qualcomm is faster theoreticly speaking.
A OMAP3-like chipset would be awesome though. (Arm Cortex powered, about 2-3 times faster compared to the X1 chipset)

Would love to see that 1 Ghz qualcomm in a phone.

Rontysee said:
Over at esato, there are rumours that SE is already working on its new xperia which will come with wm7, have a 5mp cam and will be based on qualcomm snapdragon 8250. I wish that it is true.
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That would indicate that we need to wayt till late 2009 early 2010 for the next Xperia device.

Lord.Bachus said:
That would indicate that we need to wayt till late 2009 early 2010 for the next Xperia device.
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Thought WM7 is delayed to the end of 2009 at best...

sonyE already said that xperia would not be tired to an os
and they might not use wm on the next x2
so maybe it will be symbian or android or something 3th
as they are not currently a part of the android group

Seems it's not going to be Symbian - http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/...-uiq-is-teh-sux-probably-doesnt-bode-well-fo/
WinMo or Android imo.

Insaneboy said:
Seems it's not going to be Symbian - http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/...-uiq-is-teh-sux-probably-doesnt-bode-well-fo/
WinMo or Android imo.
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if winmo 7 lives up to the hype then that would be nice
i would say some wishlist stuff for the x2 would be a bigger screen maybe between 3.2-3.8
better keyboard, more buttons, capacitive screen, multi touch, and accelerometer would be nice
but this is coming from somone that doesn't actually own one

I'm very very very happy with the current generation xperia phone. Only complaint really is how sony have handled (Or mishandled) the launch of the product.
It's almost like a call centre opening at 9, but calls only get answered from 11 o clock onwards - why launch something September 30th then start to sell it Nov 30th?
That aside, great screen, decent keyboard, blazingly fast (panels aside), good connectivity and a premium feel all make for a phone i'll be happy with for the next 18 months at least.

Insaneboy said:
Seems it's not going to be Symbian - http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/...-uiq-is-teh-sux-probably-doesnt-bode-well-fo/
WinMo or Android imo.
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Not UIQ but most likely Symbian Foundation

sorry to bring this from the dead but the people above are taking about many roumers. i was wondering if there is any news about about the x2 or whatever they end up calling it. are there any solid info that htc wont be building it (i care because of xda support)

sony is loosing money big time on ps3 and global crisis
sonyE is loosing money too
doubt we will see sonyE making too many revolutionary products
in awhile
time for them to feed the cash-cows

think it will be the end of the year or early next before they release the x2.
by then we will be in wm7 (if the x2 is a wm device)
prob be 1gz cpu
512 ram
8 - 12 mp camera
oled screen
(going by there prototype model phone that they showed at mobile show, would not expect it to have weaker specs)

one thing for sure about the next xperia... it will NOT be made by HTC

i would be very surprised if sony ditches the windows mobile platform for xperia:
-they already have many other symbiyan based toy phons.
-they need to differenciate their only buisness line phones from the c,p..etc series phones
- the recent realease of mxp,Xtract and r3a roms (despite their money situation ) *may* suggest that they are commited to winmo for a future phone
my guess, SE (like samsung) are waiting for official wm6.5 (q3) orr even wm7 before announcing anything. unlike HTC they probably cant afford to flood the market with a zillion diffent similar models

theclueless said:
one thing for sure about the next xperia... it will NOT be made by HTC
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that would be really bad to sony. as i cant imagine the x1 being a worthwhile device if it wasnt for the proper support of this site. none of the other site out there can be considered even "good enough"

its said they wont use htc again for future devices but till they make the x2 nobody knows. i remember sony not wanting to use the company that makes the ps3 pads rumble because of the lawsuit with the company but then they did after people complained about lack of rumble on the pad.
I think it all depends on how comfidant sonyE is on making there own wm phone from scratch.
I also hear sony may buy out the ericsson half of the business so that will change a lot of how things are done as a company.

found this post. hope its true
Originally Posted by kbadone
Don't worry X2 is in development, I work at Sony Ericsson RTP NC, we have the X2 SP1 build. I can't say much about it but it looks 5x better than X1 design wise, and regarding the software its running WM6.5
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THE GRIZZ said:
found this post. hope its true
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Just to give some reference of time SP1 is a prototype hardware revision. @ SE it goes, DPX.X -> SPX.X -> APX.X -> PQX.X ....so a X2 announcement shouldn't be too far off.

Goodbye Xperia, googbye Microsoft... Vive la Android!

Hey folks,
being XPERIA owner for two months, I was often annoyed by the slugginess, bad operationality and quite many [small] issues.
Now I've ordered and got an "Android Dev Phone 1" (= HTC Dream = T-Mobile G1) and I love it! The interface is clean and smooth, it feels so much faster now! Sure some things aren't implemented yet (eg. virtual keybord or synchronization with Outlook) but I actually don't need them, and most of them will come already with the next Android update in Jan/Feb.
So I'm now swithing to the "HTC Dream" section and to other forums.
Any questions à la "Android vs Windows" or "X1 vs G1" are welcome here, though.
Best regards,
Vygi

I tried that phone in the T-mobile shop when I was still waiting for the X1 to appear and didn't like anything about it.. still - each to their own!

i like the design of X1 better than the G1. but i like linux (using on laptop to).
it would be nice to run android on X1

commodoor said:
it would be nice to run android on X1
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The G1 didn't do it for me since it has a low-res 480x320 screen. Even now, with the X1's mighty WVGA screen I sometime wish it was even sharper, something like 1024x600 would do just fine .

Tweaking and a couple of apps loaded onto the phone, my Xperia is working awesome! I love it more than i did my iPhone! startup is a bit slow... meh! but who cares!
Anyways... G1 doesn't appeal to me... and besides - if i do like any next release of Android or even Blackberry OS, i'll unload Windows off of Xperia and load 'em onto Xperia.

Actually I'm still shocked how awful WM is. I used phone and Palm T5 before and I wanted to have all in one package, so I went for Xperia.
While the device is nice, that software is bad, bad, bad. Everything is slow, ill designed, all freeware I found is full of bugs, even lot's of commercial software simply does not work.
What is also shocking me is while my T5 is two years old now, it plays movies 20% better then Xperia (TCPMP on Palm, CorePlayer on Xperia) !
Maybe it's a bit early for Android, but WM is just crap, it must be all started over. PalmOS was great, and there is no replacement.

I say bring on NVIDIA Tegra chip based mobiles with WinMo7. :O

Dr.Sid said:
Actually I'm still shocked how awful WM is. I used phone and Palm T5 before and I wanted to have all in one package, so I went for Xperia.
While the device is nice, that software is bad, bad, bad. Everything is slow, ill designed, all freeware I found is full of bugs, even lot's of commercial software simply does not work.
What is also shocking me is while my T5 is two years old now, it plays movies 20% better then Xperia (TCPMP on Palm, CorePlayer on Xperia) !
Maybe it's a bit early for Android, but WM is just crap, it must be all started over. PalmOS was great, and there is no replacement.
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The market & reality tells it all. If PalmOS is so great, it wouldn't be dying like the way it is now. It UI (especially the input method) was so hard to use and handle for ordinary people. It may run smoother and more efficiently than WM, but the real truth is it's does not handle multi-tasking.

It would be cool to have Android on the X1 next to WinMo. I hope the guys over here can get it to work properly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=456595&page=11
Not sure if they're still working on it though..

Dr.Sid said:
Actually I'm still shocked how awful WM is. I used phone and Palm T5 before and I wanted to have all in one package, so I went for Xperia.
While the device is nice, that software is bad, bad, bad. Everything is slow, ill designed, all freeware I found is full of bugs, even lot's of commercial software simply does not work.
What is also shocking me is while my T5 is two years old now, it plays movies 20% better then Xperia (TCPMP on Palm, CorePlayer on Xperia) !
Maybe it's a bit early for Android, but WM is just crap, it must be all started over. PalmOS was great, and there is no replacement.
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I used SKTools, Advanced configuration Tool, and XperiaTweak to tweak up my Xperia's performance.
I also installed HTC's Touch HD's keyboard but didn't like it, especially when it opened slow at times and so on... so i uninstalled that and moved to SPB Keyboard - which is AWESOME!
Then... i installed IneSoft AddressBook + Phone. Way quicker than Xperia's AddressBook/Contacts and dialer, quicker, and a cool looking Today screen add-in. Really Fast! And i totally love it! (i like the dialer better than HTC's TF3D Dialer as well).
With these tweaks and apps, and a few additional freeware stuff (like flash today screens, battery indicators, and so on) my Xperia is functioning really fast and without problems.
FYI - i also have panels running and TF3D installed as a Panel (which is running way smoother and faster after using SKTools to tweak up the device). I also have Winterface installed, though barely ever use it - it is enabled though in the background. I also have Push Mail enabled on the device which works flawlessly - as it did on my iPhone. And over 10 games installed working without any lags.
I won't lie, but there are occassional hiccups/lags, but not as much for one to notice. (even my iPhone faced quite a couple of lags and hang-ups once i installed apps onto it and so on). The only thing i hate at this point is the startup of the device... oh and the Facebook panel, which has the tendency to crash sometimes...
Best Regards.
Salman Khalid.

msalmank said:
...oh and the Facebook panel, which has the tendency to crash sometimes...
Best Regards.
Salman Khalid.
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Have you tried the updated version? Much improved on the initial release, I recommend you try it out.

spr33 said:
Have you tried the updated version? Much improved on the initial release, I recommend you try it out.
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Yep... i updated it. And it is improved, a lot! but still has the tendency to crash at times. Mostly when it is refreshing the main page and i hit the Panel button (not always, but usually) and a few other random occurrences...

Dr.Sid said:
Actually I'm still shocked how awful WM is. I used phone and Palm T5 before and I wanted to have all in one package, so I went for Xperia.
While the device is nice, that software is bad, bad, bad. Everything is slow, ill designed, all freeware I found is full of bugs, even lot's of commercial software simply does not work.
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My experiences aren't so extreme but I feel somewhat the same: great hardware, but lame operating system, bad and non-uniform operatibility, and so on. When I ask "how to do this" or "how to manage that", often I get advices to apply registra hacks and use special system tweaks or install some additional software. When after them the system is slow of some strange issues appear - then I have to blyme myself, because I have too many things installed and too many settings changed!
Now I have found an alternative which costs 20% less and is about 200% better (faster/more stable) to me!
There are actually just very few things I like more on Xperia:
- better battery
- better screen resolution
- light sensor to change screen brightess
And there are things which are better on DevPlone1 (G1/Dream):
- much much better user interface
- generally much faster, no freezes/blackouts/pauses
- great multitasking/task switching (eg. the browser starts in 0,5 sec)
- compass and g-sensor available
- better keyboard
- better speaker
- great integration of online Email, Contacts, Calendar
- software easy to find and to install
- faster battery charging
Next year many other Android devices will be available, and I maybe I will take another one, but also with the current Dream/G1/DevPhone1 I am much more happy than with X1!

In short... For me, when i played with HTC Touch Diamond (my cousin's) i liked the power of Windows Mobile but was totally NOT impressed by the usual lags and bugginess of the device... so i was really concerned if Windows Mobile would be a good choice (i was looking at the Blackberry Bold as an alternative to WinMo). Eventually, i decided to go with X1 and though initially it was better than i expected but not that good either, after a tweak here and there and a little enhancements the Xperiance has turned out be quite ideal. Sure laggy at times (though not occassional), but it is turning out to be the device i thought it would be, if not better!

vygi said:
Next year many other Android devices will be available, and I maybe I will take another one, but also with the current Dream/G1/DevPhone1 I am much more happy than with X1!
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Though Windows Mobile is more professional of an OS, and tweaking + optimizing can make the experience better... but there's no denying that Android holds a lot of potential - especially being Open Source!!!
When i look at the G1 phone i'm more like "Bleh!", but i do like Android. When more features come - including Microsoft Exchange and a full office suite (maybe these are already available... not sure) and more - and it all comes loaded into a better looking phone, i might go for it as well. But i'll definitely be holding onto my Xperia. It is by far the best windows mobile device ever! and regardless of the not-so-usual lags and Windows Mobile bugs/limitations... i don't regret purchasing it at all.
I will probably end up buying an Android phone in the near future as well and then have three phones to myself...
Microsoft really needs to step up and get one heck of a Windows Mobile 7 operating system released as soon as possible! And having tested Windows 7 on my desktop - seeing how Microsoft is finally going in the right direction, i'm positive that they will surprise us this time with a Windows Mobile that actually performs better than any other OS out there.

are you selling your X1 i would like to buy it please PM me

Thank you; no Microsoft anymore: not 6th, nor 7th nor 8th++.
Two months were more that enough.
Now I enjoy the speed and power of Android** (the 1st!) every single minute.
**) it might be Nokia N97 with the touch-screen-capable Symbian S60 as well.... it just comes too late to me.

jackleung said:
The market & reality tells it all. If PalmOS is so great, it wouldn't be dying like the way it is now. It UI (especially the input method) was so hard to use and handle for ordinary people. It may run smoother and more efficiently than WM, but the real truth is it's does not handle multi-tasking.
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Of course if the so-called "market" (read cartel) had any sort of bloody clue whatsoever, we wouldn't have been held back 10 years on desktop PCs with a crappy, inferior 8086 archtecture. PalmOS isn't any great shakes, but any OS like WM that takes 5 seconds to dismiss a "SMS sent" notification on high-end hardware should have been drowned at birth, and failing that should be put out of it's misery post-haste! Free Software FTW!

will it be possible to update to wm7 on the xperia when it comes out without any problems? im new to smartphones and don't know how customizable they are

Carreragt17 said:
will it be possible to update to wm7 on the xperia when it comes out without any problems? im new to smartphones and don't know how customizable they are
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When the time comes... we'll see. Officially i don't think so, but i'm sure we'll see cooked roms flying in in no time!

Will there be an R4A firmware?

Someone told me in one of my topics that there will be an R4A update. I just can't hold Xperia any longer, if I no for sure that there will be no awesome update that we expected from R3A than I will sell the X1.

Why don't you use custom ROM instead of sticking to the stock ROM? Stock ROM winmo 6.1 is not very user friendly that's why many of us here jumped ship to winmo 6.5 or TF3D...it's been a while since I left 6.1 and I'm very happy w/ my X1 although it's still sluggish sometimes (run many apps will slow down the phone real bad). It's not the best phone but if you can get around with it I think you'll be fine (you need to take control over the phone, not you being controlled by the phone )
I will wait for the R4A. I heard it will include the Blackberry Application Suite....the wait begins

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Why don't you use custom ROM instead of sticking to the stock ROM? Stock ROM winmo 6.1 is not very user friendly that's why many of us here jumped ship to winmo 6.5 or TF3D...it's been a while since I left 6.1 and I'm very happy w/ my X1 although it's still sluggish sometimes (run many apps will slow down the phone real bad). It's not the best phone but if you can get around with it I think you'll be fine (you need to take control over the phone, not you being controlled by the phone )
I will wait for the R4A. I heard it will include the Blackberry Application Suite....the wait begins
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Windows Mobile 6.5 today screen is crap and the start menu is really really really really really hard and long to re-order and organize.
I would only use Touch Flo 3D on a 3.6+ inch device.

There are just too many signs signaling that we are at the end of the road for the X1. If there is a r4a, I don't think it will be any bigger or impressive than previous updates. How many resources will SE pour into a phone that the CEO has called a failure? Hopefully, the X2 and X1 will be mostly compatible.

WhyBe said:
There are just too many signs signaling that we are at the end of the road for the X1. If there is a r4a, I don't think it will be any bigger or impressive than previous updates. How many resources will SE pour into a phone that the CEO has called a failure? Hopefully, the X2 and X1 will be mostly compatible.
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Nobody called X1 a failure.
Read text precisely.

I will wait for the R4A. I heard it will include the Blackberry Application Suite
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and so was said about the R3A rom now what?

I was thinking of changing my X1 to smth else, but I do not know yet what could be my new device like. X1 is great but i need more stable and faster firmware, better battery that holds longer and doesnt get hot...
Anything else... i can stand it.

The battery life on my R3a is awesome and the signal has drastically improved, However R4A i hope will be released with the new panel manager and new panels.
For instance i really like the growing panel but on R2A it ate the battery real bad. Im hoping for the new camera and panel changes olong with the new panels.
For now im happy with a lot less soft resets and a quicker X1 from R3a but i still think the X1 has a lot more to give.
I wont flash to a custom rom as im usless and will brick the phone im happy with SEUS.

doministry said:
Nobody called X1 a failure.
Read text precisely.
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Whether they used that word or not is irrelevant...the sentiment is the same. X1 was not a success. There were too many flaws taking away from the X1's hardware superiority (poor UE, lack of panels, expensive for mysterious reasons, all of the different technologies not cohesive). Unfortunately, it seems like X2 is going to suffer the same fate. I'm hoping that X3 (with WM7 I'm speculating) will be the Xperia that will live up to it's promise.

WhyBe said:
There are just too many signs signaling that we are at the end of the road for the X1. If there is a r4a, I don't think it will be any bigger or impressive than previous updates. How many resources will SE pour into a phone that the CEO has called a failure? Hopefully, the X2 and X1 will be mostly compatible.
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you're a failure.

you're a failure.

guys be sure to use WKtask on ur x1 it just triples the user friendlyness of the wm ui

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guys be sure to use WKtask on ur x1 it just triples the user friendlyness of the wm ui
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that program looks hella sweet

Will you upgrade to HD2?

Ive unsucessfully used the search function to found somethread like this
As a community we are here of Blackstone users, im curious whether will upgrade to HD2?
Actually im satisfied with the HD as i can do everything i need, especially with the ROMs we found here. But i think its question of time that ROM-makers migrate do Leo, isnt it?

MNilson said:
Ive unsucessfully used the search function to found somethread like this
As a community we are here of Blackstone users, im curious whether will upgrade to HD2?
Actually im satisfied with the HD as i can do everything i need, especially with the ROMs we found here. But i think its question of time that ROM-makers migrate do Leo, isnt it?
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I added a 4th option to your poll. Hope you don't mind

ill skip it for winmo 7

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Just what the poll needed thanks!! I voted the 4th..

no for me...
more todo with the HD being a work phone. not sure when im due for a replacement but as most places int he current climate - we aint replacing much kit unless it's essential.
HD does me perfect really. does everything i need it to.... although it could be a bit quicker!

i love winmo..which is coming to extreme soon
ofcourse yes
i would like to upgrade
i read opinion out here .. for me I made a query aswell if i could upgrade it or not like what iphone 2g did with 3g 100£ and upgrade option..
for me what i think is htc touch hd is great but two things missing on it...
i.e Responsive ness (really important for being quicker "as someone mentioned up" about htc touch hd not being quicker)
second is multitouch gives lots time saving on internet browsing what i learnt using iphone....
solution on htc touch hd2
multitouch and responsive ness as it uses sensitive (capacitive) screen which is in detailed mentioned on general forum aswell.
of course i am winmo lover as i hate toy type of things and the hype iphone has got.. (yet considering the usability and ease of use it has provided for general users,) i believe our htc touch hd is real tool.
in the end i would love to upgrade if there is anything like upgrade option....... as i still have my 8 months left on contract.

I'd love to, but it's too expensive to consider. I never spent so much in a mobile before as with the HD, and it must last another year at least to be worth the spent.

In most cases if there is something REALLY new on the market, it's a bit like a beta version.
See the first Iphone without 3g, touch hd with rarely supported screensize and the little bit too slow processor, or the first directx 10 cards with to slow performance for this technology, ...
Products with big "improvements" are mostly a little bit beta, so i think it's good to wait and look what's in the future
greets

/skip /skip

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Absolutely not hehe. I knew that i was missing something. Cheers

Picked 4th one .
Hoping when the winmo7 version comes out, it'll have:
* the front face videocalling camera again (i like how it gives me the option to make videocalls and portrait pics with my gf and mates by giving a preview)
* maybe an even narrower, thinner, shorter body (same 4.3in screen)
* over 1350mah battery size
* that stylus they patented
others I'd like to see:
* Not necessary, but front-touch buttons like the HD. Unless they implement hardware buttons alot better than the HD2 (imo the layout and shape looks ugly)
* oled-amoled screen

My initial reaction to leak specs and pictures was:
No....not enough improvements for me to consider
When 6.5 Leo ROMs came out I was like:
Upgrade? I can have WM 6.5 on my HD!
After reading more reviews and videos:
I’m considering.....
Now:
Is it a question? Of course, yes!
Can't wait for delivery.

It is too big IMHO.HD is perfect sized.
But the capacitive screen and the Snapdragon are so attractive...
It's a hard choice

The faster CPU, multitouch (FINALLY) and the bigger screen make me find it worth the upgrade.
As for WM6.5 on the HD, ok, it works, but the HD is still, as it always was, underpowered for such a big display.
Only under the best and freshest of circumstances does it run smooth.
The new gen CPU should change this considerably.
And get ready, my supplier states HD2 to be deliverable on the 6th!

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will have to 2nd that.
Have chosen Option 4.
More CPU Power is good but it is too big now (Not a problem though) and the removal of the front cam and stylus is really bad.
Better camera software is needed and flash should be better.

just to post a quote from msmobiles
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HTC made it: thanks to their big investment in research and development, they are the first to release Windows Mobile phone with multitouch. But there is one big problem:
... namely, unlike Samsung, that is providing SDK for Samsung Windows Mobile phones to take advantage of accelerometer, compass, etc, HTC is not providing such SDK at all, what is a big problem in case of HTC HD2, as one of our readers have noticed:
* Whatever remains of the Windows Mobile community is going bonkers over the HTC HD2 and its hacked-in multi-touch support. Why in the world does this matter if third-party apps won't be able to use it? I'm sure we'll see community API efforts on XDA-Devs, just like for past HTC controls (circular controller, zoom bar, accelerometer, etc.), but that's not going to extend very far beyond XDA.
Obviously what's needed is first-party support from MS, but given that WM development on MS' part has been in a coma for several years, the next line is the OEM, and HTC's support would be quite useful to build a collection of third-party apps that actually make some use of the device.
People talk about matching the iPhone-- sure, the HD2's hardware is impressive, but given its likely software state, it'll be miles away from the iPhone in actual usefulness. Why care about a digital compass, accelerometer, or multi-touch that won't work in any third-party apps?
Conclusion: since HTC HD2 is extremely expensive, maybe users should wait for Windows Mobile 7 phones where third party developers will be able to take advantage of multitouch and compass? Or maybe HTC should wake up and provide SDK for their Windows Mobile phones at last?
Note: according to leaked specifications of Windows Mobile 7, HTC HD2 will not (!) be upgradeable to Windows Mobile 7.[/QUOTE)
Maybe yes, we should wait.
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i'm really thinking about it, but i think i will wait for the next device announcement.
i guess it will have a smaller screen (capacitive also, maybe 3.8?) with snapdragon 1ghz processor and QWERTY keyboard.
that's what i need

Yes - the Touch HD's poor processor is annoying me everyday. It can't even handle predictive text when sending an SMS in a timely fashion.
It was great at the time, but it's now time for the HD2.

i would skip because i already spent a fortune on hd so it should atleast last another year...
but the snapdragon and capacitive touchscreen really makes you drool

Thought about upgrading, but then it's a really expensive phone that only corrects the HD shortcoming (power, speed, camera, capacitive...)
I will wait for the next generation of devices, and an OLED screen before I upgrade. The next question for me will be to decide between Android v2.0 (it's now only starting to become a real alternative to winmo if the Exchange support is done correctly), and Windows Mobile 7.0
Frankly at the minute, from what I see of WinMo 7, I am not impressed at all...

Windows Phone 7 Series will not support SE X1

Windows Phone 7 Series will not support SE X1
Microsoft is putting an end to free style design and is specifying three variants of Windows Phone 7 devices, that prescribe form factor, CPU, graphics and possibly more. Each variants, or “chassis”, specifies one of the most popular form factors, though we only have specifics for Chassis 1 for now.
Chassis 1 describes the requirements for “big touchscreen” phones. There’s no minimum screen size or resolution yet, but previous rumors suggested 3.6” WVGA. The minimum requirements for the CPU are 1GHz (that’s right - minimum) and graphics hardware is mandatory (Microsoft really wants to ensure a smooth UI experience it seems).
Not much is known about Chassis 2 and Chassis 3. Chassis 2 will have slide-out QWERTY keyboards in addition to the touchscreen (we guess CPU and graphics requirements are the same) and the Chassis 2 devices are said to be Treo-like (strange, because the Treos are bars with portrait QWERTYs, there’s no sliding).
It’s the Windows Phone 7 Chassis 3 devices that have the bar form factor. That would make them Treo-like, rather than the Chassis 2 phones, which sound more like, say, the Sony Ericsson XPERIA X2.
Previous rumors about the minimum hardware requirements for Windows Phone 7 devices also listed minimum camera resolution, GPS, Wi-Fi and even a minimum set of hardware buttons. These vary quite a lot, so we’re not sure about the specifics, but it looks like Windows Phone 7 devices will be inhabiting the high-end segment only.
The first Windows Phone 7 Chassis 1 devices should launch in time for this year's holiday season. There's no word on when Chassis 2 and 3 phones will launch.

This is very old news that both X1 and X2 won't support WM7.

... and yet some people are still asking for it.
(even now when WM7 isn't much more than a concept to the public)

there are even people in hermes forum asking for wm7 roms

The XDA chefs have spoiled everyone lol

I know its a very old news but now its official ;p

Hell, WM 6.5 isn't supported for the X1. Much less WP7....

WM 6.5 isn't supported, but the point is WP7 will likely be IMPOSSIBLE on Xperias.
So long live 6.5 !! (even though companies like Adobe and Skype are already abandoning it)
Is anyone else sad about the demise of Windows Mobile or at least apprehensive about Windows Phone 7 Series?

Demise is too big word I think..
About WM 7 - I feel interested and excited,
but equally afraid of rumours showing it a bit more locked platform.

harveydent said:
Hell, WM 6.5 isn't supported for the X1. Much less WP7....
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What does that mean? I see alot of ROMs with titanium and WM 6.5 traits. Heck, even the Samsung Epix supports WM 6.5, it has titanium + the new and improved start menu and soft keys at the bottom.

poetryrocksalot said:
What does that mean? I see alot of ROMs with titanium and WM 6.5 traits. Heck, even the Samsung Epix supports WM 6.5, it has titanium + the new and improved start menu and soft keys at the bottom.
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If you see an X1 with Win 6.5, it's a hacked phone. There is no official WM 6.5 for the X1. The OP was complaining that WP7 won't be supporting the X1 when there is already no WM6.5 support for the X1 (try calling SE and tell them you're having trouble running 6.5 on your X1 and they'll just laugh at you)

ha, funny, I was just about to ask if X1 can run Win Phone 7
good thing I did a search first
so this post was in Feb, what about now? still can't?

anggogo said:
ha, funny, I was just about to ask if X1 can run Win Phone 7
good thing I did a search first
so this post was in Feb, what about now? still can't?
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I can not see how anybody would want to put such a worthless UI in there phone, The dam UI looks like it was designed by 12 year old lol. But if you want a UI like that try Windows Phone 7 V2 by Fireslave it's pretty much the same except you can't use WP7 apps and etc.. but you can still multi-task haha .