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Will the OS be upgraded to Crossbow?

Who here reckons HTC will be generous enough to upgrade the Trinity's OS to the upcoming Crossbow at some point via ROM update?

Think their marketing dept will advise to introduce Crossbow with a new device...

XenoV said:
Think their marketing dept will advise to introduce Crossbow with a new device...
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.........Then xda-developers will put the "new wine in old skins"!

I think just to be on the safe side we should all pester HTC just to remind them there's demand for Crossbow.

forcedalias said:
Who here reckons HTC will be generous enough to upgrade the Trinity's OS to the upcoming Crossbow at some point via ROM update?
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We are talking about an OS that will shipped to OEMs 9 months from now and then must be tested against the hardware. Considering that a year from now HTC will have announced 5 to 10 new devices, I would say that Crossbow will never run on devices you buy today. It just doesn't make any sense commercially.

Crossbow is already shipped out to OEM, and will be released to end-users Q1/2 2007. <- *edit: just to be on the safe side: Crossbow should be shipped out to OEMs Q4 2006, so we still got a month to go
I think you are talking about Photon(or something like that), which will be sent out to OEMs next year...

Yeah, I think anonimo is talking about Photon not Crossbow.
Anyway, I just hope we get our upgrade to Crossbow by the end of the year, that would be great.
Also, I wish they'd release their ActiveSync replacement in time for Vista launch.

I would think that they would be release it in conjunction with Vista and I think HTC may release the update but they may charge a fee ($29.99 - $99.99) as HP released a update for some of their devices and the fee was $29.99. I would be happy to pay between $29.99 - $99.99 for the update.

Has HTC (via brands Qtek, Imate, Dopod) ever offered an OS upgrade in the past?

As far as I can see and this is why I have not purchased an HTC branded device yet , they do not even supply updated downloadable ROMs for the devices they sell unlike Imate branded HTC devices. I can't see the section on their site and have only heard that the ROM updates will be sent to your suppliers . I can't see expansys doing that .
I would guess that if they cannot do that then they will not offer Vista Upgrades either.
If anyone can point me to the ROM upgrade section on the European or any other site of HTC's then that would sway me in to buying one their own branded products.

HTC Dream +t-mobile= iphone killer !

-mobile and htc has agreed to join as i have heard at work/today (t-mobile)////Pleasant ‘Dream’ for HTC, Google: FCC approves =
The FCC has approved HTC’s ‘Dream’ phone, which will now be the first Android-based handset to hit the market, InfoWeek reports. It will support T-Mobile’s 3G network. (Let’s see if it handles 3G better than Apple and AT&T.)
Given the disparities between HTC Dream and Android SDK 0.9, it’s safe to say that “Android will likely improve greatly before HTC and T-Mobile debut the first phones to use Android in October, thanks in no small part to the OS’s openness toward third-party developers,” as PC Mag says.
http://government.zdnet.com/?p=3955
i cant wait till this thing comes out they are showing it has touchscreen and track ball,etc and it should retail at $ 399.99

nice i read on another site we can expect it in oct.-nov.

The rumors I hear is that the dream will be available for pre-order mid sept. If you pre-order you can get it for $150. It will become available beginning of Oct. for $200 if you didn't pre-order it.

thank god for this. tmo desperately needs a PDA phone refresh.
by the way, congrats on senior membership, speoples20

fzzyrn said:
thank god for this. tmo desperately needs a PDA phone refresh.
by the way, congrats on senior membership, speoples20
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Oh thanks a lot I think it switches over at 100 post.

specs?
Anyone get any specs on this phone... My wing is painfully slow even with the latest opentouch micro on it... and if anyone knows what browser they will be using that would be a plus!

HTC Touch HD Coming Direct to O2 Sooner Than We Think?

I did a Google search for 'HTC "Touch HD"' webpages in the last 24 hours and this came up from the O2 Forums.
Gulioth on O2 Forum said:
Daz, i've got it on good authority that it will be released on O2 before the year is out - just need to hold on that little bit longer !!
They didn't want to mention a specific date but first week in December looks probable, depends if the network testing goes to plan
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Gulioth on O2 Forum said:
Well I'm as sure as what I've been told by 2 sources. Very close to being released, currently with the network for testing. Unless there are any issues, should be available on O2 in December. If not, don't shoot the messenger!
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PWJW on O2 Forum said:
Now just diverging to the rumours that O2 will be getting this themselves, I was very surprised to hear, when I wandered in to my local O2 shop, that they were expecting them in in December. WTF I thought, so I checked out the news, and lo and behold there are a few others that have heard the same. Now I'm not going to hold my breath on this for too long, but if that is true I don't mind waiting a couple of weeks...
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Don't shoot the messengers' messenger

Touch HD directly from O2
Hi there - it's quite odd to see myself quoted here! (I'm PWJW in the above mentioned thread).
I should point out that the thread that this is from is about buying the phone from mobiles.co.uk (here > http://forum.o2.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=9555&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=180), which is offering O2 deals. The first two comments may well be referring to availability through this route, or not, I am not sure myself, which is why I raised my point, hoping for some clarification.
I spoke to someone in an O2 shop, and they said that they were aware of the Orange exclusive, but thought it was only until the end of the month, and that they (O2) would be getting it in in early December. Now I took that with a big pinch of salt, because I usually know more about handsets and release dates (due to these great forums) than they do!
I was actually so shocked that I did not ask the obvious follow up questions like "Are you absolutely sure about that?!" and "Can I have it in writing?", but there you go. I might give them a call in the morning and see if there is any "news"...
Fingers crossed, as this would save me some hassles I could do without.

So much for the Orange exclusive!!!
O2's network sucks though, 3G coverage is the worst of the lot... Why would you want it on O2?

Philio25 said:
So much for the Orange exclusive!!!
O2's network sucks though, 3G coverage is the worst of the lot... Why would you want it on O2?
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lol! Well I'm already there, that's why
I'm not averse to switching network, but O2 works in my home, which is also where I work, and therefore where I need to use my phone 99% of the time. I also have personal reasons for never going near Orange, so that leaves my options limited, though I have seen the HD available on Vodaphone, which is tempting > http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/HTC/b509/n443/p3185.aspx
At the moment I am waiting to see one for real before making decision, but I know that I am only postponing the inevitable. At least if O2 get this themselves, then I can negotiate an upgrade from them - I'm on Simplicity at the moment, which I have to say is a cracking deal - £20pm, 600 mins + free bolt-on ("unlimited" web in my case).

Well, it's appeared on the Intranet in the past few days, Orange seem to think they've got the HD as an exclusive "...well into 2009!"...

its all a bit dodgy if you ask me, we know O2 Germany are running with the HD, we know Orange have some sort of exclusive deal but for how long remains at question, perhaps a get around for this would be the fact that Orange WOULD have exclusive rights to Touch HD, simply because 2 would make it there own so perhaps that might be the answer.
Ive heard that There is a XDA release in December but its not the HD, but as teh other Forums suggest it may well be headed O2 directs way.
All in all im somewhat confused, if anyone has any answers out there please feel free to enlighten us!
Its also worth noting that Both the XDA Ignito and Serra were registered names against there respected phones LONG before they actually released them, and since ive not heard a peep about a new XDA name its doubtful in my opinion that an XDA Touch HD will be here this side of new year.

Well I phoned a store in Hertfordshire, they said no idea. The girl searched on her system and came up with strange alternatives.
I phoned upgrades twice. First person said no idea. Second person gave me a lecture on how HTC phones are branded O2 XDAs. Yes.... Ok.
dazza9075 said:
Ive heard that There is a XDA release in December but its not the HD, but as teh other Forums suggest it may well be headed O2 directs way.
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Probably the XDA Mantle. Screen not as big as the Touch HD. You can Google it.

Boz (Site Adminstrator) at 4WinMobile.com said:
It has already been noted that O2 definitely won't be taking the Touch HD on I am afraid. Not much use to you I know but other carriers should take it on around January time hopefully.
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http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/htc-touch-hd/18147-touch-hd-uk-exclusive-orange-5.html

HTC HD on O2
Hi All,
Just wanted to let everyone know that I have got my HTC HD on O2. Completely unbranded and without any logos... Brilliant! The only website I found selling this on O2 last week was e2save!! all other websites have it on preorder on O2.
Hope this helps.
Kind regards,
Zish

xda flint or something, big arse pda, specs look ok but nothing fancy apart from a large screen and a good sizes keyboard. more like a ultra mini laptop than a pda.

zish_uk said:
Hi All,
Just wanted to let everyone know that I have got my HTC HD on O2. Completely unbranded and without any logos... Brilliant! The only website I found selling this on O2 last week was e2save!! all other websites have it on preorder on O2.
Hope this helps.
Kind regards,
Zish
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how did you manage to get this phone on o2 from e2save if the website says pre-order on o2??? lol that's strange.

gonadski said:
I have seen the HD available on Vodaphone, which is tempting > http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/HTC/b509/n443/p3185.aspx
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This is very tempting for me too. But are Vodafone good? as i'm a T-Mobile user and I am getting bored with them and their phone releases. But I fear that it I leave they will get the phone so I am waiting till the beginning of next year to see whats happens.

iPhone on Orange

Could this be why Orange dropped the Touch HD????
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...e-announces-deal-to-sell-iphones-in-uk-638734
Not that it makes any difference to me, still don't like the iPhone. It's to much like a "My First Smartphone" for my liking.
Cheers
Dazza

Dazza2910 said:
Could this be why Orange dropped the Touch HD????
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...e-announces-deal-to-sell-iphones-in-uk-638734
Not that it makes any difference to me, still don't like the iPhone. It's to much like a "My First Smartphone" for my liking.
Cheers
Dazza
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Would doubt this is the reason. Orange probably dropped the HD due to newer models being released by HTC and sales of the HD itself where dropping.

Doesn't look like they will be getting the Leo though.

global_s said:
Doesn't look like they will be getting the Leo though.
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I'm actually not happy with this news, i left O2 cos i wanted Blackstone so much and i'm happy with orange as well, let's just hope they will offer leo as well, don't wanna go back to O2

global_s said:
Doesn't look like they will be getting the Leo though.
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Where have you heard this? Generally speaking all HTC devices can be found on Orange 1st

Fallen Spartan said:
Where have you heard this? Generally speaking all HTC devices can be found on Orange 1st
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agree with you on that one orange seem to always carry the most htc phones compared to any other network look at the diamond the kaiser orange had the lot and anyway the Leo is not exclusive to 02 anyway is it well for me am glad the iPhone is coming to orange all definatly get one as a second phone cause windows till the end

Vodafone too..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8278073.stm

http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news5097.html
link to leo on o2

nicktids said:
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news5097.html
link to leo on o2
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Hah, don't make me laugh.
Someone just printed 'HTC Leo' and details of a standard O2 tariff onto a piece of A4 paper and took a photo of it next to an O2 leaflet, how does that prove anything?
I could print out Leo's specs and picture them next to some Apple brochure but it sure as hell wouldn't mean Apple were going to be producing a handset with WinMo...
As for Orange, I wouldn't say they seem to carry a disproportionately large number of HTC devices.
Plus, even if you're only prepared to buy from a bricks-and-mortar store, you can generally get a lot of 'exclusive' handsets on a number of different networks - for example Carphone Warehouse sold the HD on O2.
And that's before we even start to consider the huge number of websites that will sell pretty much any phone on any network...

Desire HD Launched in Asia

HTC just put up the press release that they launched Desire HD and Desire Z in asia.does this means the wait is over?or WTF?
http://www.htc.com/europe/press.aspx?id=146348&lang=1033

No I think this was just the Asian version of the Europe Launch on Sept 15th. I seem to remember some techie sites saying they had invites to it which were identical to the London ones...

dazultra2000 said:
No I think this was just the Asian version of the Europe Launch on Sept 15th. I seem to remember some techie sites saying they had invites to it which were identical to the London ones...
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ah...all right.my bad,then.i just saw it on twitter and thought i should share.sorry

Did you even read the whole thing?
Availability and pricing
The new HTC Desire HD and HTC Desire Z will be available through mobile operators and retailers across major Asian markets from November 2010.
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mostling said:
Did you even read the whole thing?
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somehow i missed that.i wouldn't post anything without reading.not in this flaming society.
i said i'm sorry.maybe i'm too exited about this phone.

Is this thread even necessary?

M_T_M said:
Is this thread even necessary?
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Why not? After all it's about Desires in asian markets.
On another note i believe you are being a bit over ambitious about the moderating, have a bit of patience with locking topics, i guarantee you you will have more than enough of that once the phones are finally out...

mostling said:
Why not? After all it's about Desires in asian markets.
On another note i believe you are being a bit over ambitious about the moderating, have a bit of patience with locking topics, i guarantee you you will have more than enough of that once the phones are finally out...
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No he is not ...
...because once the flood gates are open, it will become a nightmare of threads...I have seen it in HD2 forums

v-b-n said:
No he is not ...
...because once the flood gates are open, it will become a nightmare of threads...I have seen it in HD2 forums
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so have i.i coocked ROMs for HD2.this is last time i'am saying i'm sorry for this thread.i was too impulsive.i am off this forum until DHD is released.

polystirenman said:
so have i.i coocked ROMs for HD2.this is last time i'am saying i'm sorry for this thread.i was too impulsive.i am off this forum until DHD is released.
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DUDE... don't be sorry... when i read the tittle of this thread, i was exited!!!

Couple of days ago talked to my local supplier in Beijing about when can get Desire HD or Desire Z from them. Was told after mid Oct they can get for me the phones, but for +30 to 40% the price in Europe, in mid Nov they can offer the phones "normally priced" (whatever this means)

marttin said:
Couple of days ago talked to my local supplier in Beijing about when can get Desire HD or Desire Z from them. Was told after mid Oct they can get for me the phones, but for +30 to 40% the price in Europe, in mid Nov they can offer the phones "normally priced" (whatever this means)
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Meaning, most probably the phones will be launched in Europe first, and they'll be grey imported into Beijing for a hefty price (since there is no way you can get them besides through grey import).
Once the phone is finally launched officially in Bejing, they'll be able to obtain the phone from an authorized distributor locally, and the price will be the RRP (recommended retail price) set by the distributor.

daijoubu said:
Meaning, most probably the phones will be launched in Europe first, and they'll be grey imported into Beijing for a hefty price (since there is no way you can get them besides through grey import).
Once the phone is finally launched officially in Bejing, they'll be able to obtain the phone from an authorized distributor locally, and the price will be the RRP (recommended retail price) set by the distributor.
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As I know these phones are not getting officially into China - all will be grey import. I dont believe this import will come from Europe but from other Asian locations - Taiwan, HK, Singapore, Malaysia etc. Mass supply (grey import) starts after local techie community is ready with Chinese ROM. The distributors are re-flashing the sets and then putting them on the market.
Before Chinese ROM available there will be imported only very limited number of sets - the reason for the "hefty price" in the beginning. No RRP as no official channels, but in general expect the "normally priced" phones to be cheaper than in Europe.
The funny is to get a phone with stock ROM I made a "special request order" with the supplier

I too appreciate the posting. Any news about the DHD is considered relevant info. Sure, some stuff will be more relevant than other, and sometimes news will be repeated, but come on... let us all play nice, and appreciate that our friends share all the cool stuff they find about the DHD. Personally, I appreciate this thread.

For those who read chinese. This site captured quite a fair bit of the "Launch Party" in Taiwan.
http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/talk/?prod_id=4018&tid=37208