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T-Mobile WM2003 Update Delayed!

Got through a long conversation with level 5 [email protected] T-mobile and he indicated the T-Mobile release is due in 2-3 weeks.
They had some significant issues with a patch they had for the announced release scheduled for this week and removed the page from their site because they are getting "hundreds" of calls per day.
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Those wieners! But at least they're working on it.
While it would be nice for them to get the thing out the door right away, I think we'll all be happier if they get it right and make us wait a couple of weeks

...(I don't know about hundredS of calls a day, but i know i put in a good 99 per day) 8)

I'm having a problem with my phone - called today and T-Mobile is supposed to be sending out a replacement (Oops, guess I'll have to revert to the 2002 OS before I return this one!)
Anyway, it will be interesting to see what comes on the new one. I'm pretty sure it'll be PPC 2002, but who knows maybe it'll have 2003 on there - though I doubt it.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see what comes on the new one. I'm pretty sure it'll be PPC 2002, but who knows maybe it'll have 2003 on there - though I doubt it.
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I would also be surprised as they are probably sending you a replacement that was 'loaded' a few weeks before now. They probably have hundreds of PPCs with 2002 and I really doubt that they will reload them with the new OS, they will just let the new owner do that.
Sorry. But, hey, maybe we are wrong?
J

I'm not too concerned about what OS it has on it. Not like upgrading it is difficult. But something updated would be nice just for the "ooh!" factor. :-D

I actually just went through a replacement this week with T-Mobile. The phone I eventually received had PPC2002 on it. Beware though - the first replacement phone I received from them was a cheapo Motorola, so they sent the completely wrong phone. I had to order another one and wait a few more days til I received the correct replacement.
Gb.

I work for T-Mo and noticed that we are to sell through our existing inventory and ordering is supposed to cease for the current PocketPc due to lack of supply. I'm sure that what is really going on is that they want us to sell through the models with PPC2002 while they get the final product of WM2003 ready to ship. Makes sense... out with the old.. in with the new..

oh for GOD's sake... lets just call it windows 2004!!!
there is only one month left! i dont want to be in 2004 thinkin im using last year's technology!
i demand 2004 :wink:

ntabikha said:
lets just call it windows 2004!!!
there is only one month left!
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I was just thinking the exact same ****......& since its takin so long 4 this bug free upgrade :roll: ... i want the RS to be flawless.......
..........or :twisted: i :twisted: might :twisted: just :twisted: have :twisted: to :twisted: go :twisted: to :twisted: AT&T...lol

i didnt know we can say *Ship High In Transit* here
good to know, good to know : :twisted:
hey! anyone wants 128MB sd card (new) for $45? i got 3

I am pretty sure the RS will still have many bugs for us to work around. It is the nature of the beast.
I am waiting for information on the new device t-mobile will be launching with WM2003, 802.11 and Bluetooth "capabilities" ( I alwasy worry when they say that!)

Replacing a dead Hermes.. should I wait?

My Hermes has died on me (long story; it's not recoverable without a $600 USD new system board)...
My question is... should I wait for "the next thing" from HTC, or should I get another TyTN/Hermes. I loved my phone, and would love to have another one, but the Hermes has been out for almost a year now, and I assume HTC is about to start releasing new phones.
The Trinity is a nice phone ... other than not having a keyboard (wtf?).
Basically -- anyone know if the "next generation" TyTN is coming out soon, with a faster CPU and *prays* GPS?
I don't want to wait too long - I've fallen back to my Motorola L6, and everytime I look at it I feel like I'm going to cry.

jmat said:
My Hermes has died on me (long story; it's not recoverable without a $600 USD new system board)...
My question is... should I wait for "the next thing" from HTC, or should I get another TyTN/Hermes. I loved my phone, and would love to have another one, but the Hermes has been out for almost a year now, and I assume HTC is about to start releasing new phones.
The Trinity is a nice phone ... other than not having a keyboard (wtf?).
Basically -- anyone know if the "next generation" TyTN is coming out soon, with a faster CPU and *prays* GPS?
I don't want to wait too long - I've fallen back to my Motorola L6, and everytime I look at it I feel like I'm going to cry.
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HTC Kaiser?
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=733
Mike

mikechannon said:
HTC Kaiser?
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=733
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Oh wow.. *drools* That's a beautiful phone. Interesting how they got rid of the slider, too.
My problem will be having the patience to wait until June-July. :-D
Of course, I waited five months for the TyTN to become available here in the US, so I guess I can wait three months for the Kaiser.
Thanks!

Of course if you are really patient you will wait 9 months and the price will have dropped as well But that's far too sensible for all of us here I'm sure!!
Mike

HTC Kaiser - when?
I really want this phone. GPS + 3g = say goodbye to my Wizard.
Question is - the estimated US release date is June 2007. For those of you who have followed HTC for a while - how accurate do you think this is? Will it be available unlocked online before I can buy it from Cingular? How long will it take for Cingular to start selling it after it is officially released? (Assuming they're planning to sell it at all)
Cheers.....

warwickwebb said:
I really want this phone. GPS + 3g = say goodbye to my Wizard.
Question is - the estimated US release date is June 2007. For those of you who have followed HTC for a while - how accurate do you think this is? Will it be available unlocked online before I can buy it from Cingular? How long will it take for Cingular to start selling it after it is officially released? (Assuming they're planning to sell it at all)
Cheers.....
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Ditto.
I want...I want...I need...I need...

warwickwebb said:
I really want this phone. GPS + 3g = say goodbye to my Wizard.
Question is - the estimated US release date is June 2007. For those of you who have followed HTC for a while - how accurate do you think this is? Will it be available unlocked online before I can buy it from Cingular? How long will it take for Cingular to start selling it after it is officially released?
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I'm pretty sure Cingular will have it, because they've been testing HSUPA over the past few months -- and the Kaiser is one of the first (and only) ones that has been announced that will have it. It will probably end up replacing the 8525.
Going by the Hermes/TyTN schedule... the TyTN was announced to be released in June 2006. It didn't show up in the US until August, but those were imported models. A lot of the early models had some big problems (screen, keyboard, etc). They really started to roll into the US in October.
Cingular started testing the 8525 in September 2006. They didn't launch it until December (I think?). They had to tweak the HSDPA network to handle the TyTN/8525.
I bet those dates will be around the same for this new phone. Cingular/AT&T will be testing out the HSUPA network with this thing..

Where I can buy a HTC Shift,new in box?

I'm in China,I'm gonna buy a new shift,but it doesn't release in Chinese market yet.....Someone could recommend somewhere I can buy it?I can pay it by paypal.
And I have a question about the GSM,is it possible to make a call via.HTC Shift?
Regards,
Brose

the shift seems to be unreleased yet ... but could come very soon.
I have found a new piece of information on the Expansys site :
http://www.expansys.fr/p.aspx?i=154231
It seems the it will comes at the end of the month ... and I think that France will be the first country to get the Shift. I'm waiting here in Belgium and all the stores do not have any information about the release date..
About the phone options .. if you look at the HTC site in the Support tab, you'll see that SMS are working but not the phone (by default). But here we are pretty sure that we will be able to make it able to make and receive calls... but we have to wait to get some devices to be sure about it.
I hope I have fully answered your questions.

koala996 said:
the shift seems to be unreleased yet ... but could come very soon.
I have found a new piece of information on the Expansys site :
http://www.expansys.fr/p.aspx?i=154231
It seems the it will comes at the end of the month ... and I think that France will be the first country to get the Shift. I'm waiting here in Belgium and all the stores do not have any information about the release date..
About the phone options .. if you look at the HTC site in the Support tab, you'll see that SMS are working but not the phone (by default). But here we are pretty sure that we will be able to make it able to make and receive calls... but we have to wait to get some devices to be sure about it.
I hope I have fully answered your questions.
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Hi,koala996....Really really thanks for your help,man!
Frankly I found there have some sellers in ebay.com that they are selling HTC Shift,but I'm confused that their device just is 20GB hard disk,I noted the HTC Shift is 40GB hard disk from the HTC Website....Holy****! What's its exact version??
Wow...U awesome,men! I do hope u will work the phone call feature out in future. Cheers!
Brose

Shift is available in some stores
look here : http://www.cel.ro/pda-gps/pda-htc-shift-l/
price is 1210 EUR

HTC Shift
In fact HTC Shift is already in some countries. But they are kept with the distributors they are not allowed to pass it on to the shops yet. The reason is because they wanted other shops around the world to compete fairly, rather than speculate on it.

jamal_bao said:
look here : http://www.cel.ro/pda-gps/pda-htc-shift-l/
price is 1210 EUR
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I live in Bucharest.
Called them and........
What else could you expect.
Huib
P.s. From tomorrow staying a week in Holland. By God I hope I will find one there.

Sorry...
Sorry to say but haven't seen it here yet

strangestonealive said:
Sorry to say but haven't seen it here yet
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In Holland? Yes but Expansys talks about 5 days. maybe ,maybe.
Huib
HTC SHIFT
800MHz, 1GB, 40GB, Vista Business, EU Andere UMPC › Devices Ca. 4 Dagen €1.259,95

Just like all of us they have been very optimistic in their assumptions for a delivery date.
And time after time they delyed it...
But as you mentioned, we will see...

on expansys, the release has been push back once again, man.....i guess i will need to contact my HTC contact to find out when they are really going to release the Shift.

It's not that they are spoiled by unrealistic delivery date provided by expansys. They are actually lying every month by saying this thing is available now... from official PR! and since last october. I understand a company meeting a last minute problem before going on the production channel, but this announcment where done knowing the production was not going, as there is an estimated 2 weeks between the first unit produced and the actual delivery.
That or we have some kind of war going behind the scene between HTC and some other company.

great work ! they lying again! it's ok for me ...i buy an asus r2hv , i can't wait .....time is money , no? for htc maybe not. stupid company!

I can hardly believe that I too am falling into the trap of posting about HTC Shift availability. But here I go.
Clove technology www.clove.co.uk a company who have been trading since Psion days told me that my pre-order of the HTC Shift can now be executed and that first stock is due Tuesday march 04th 2008.
Well since I've waited about 1 year now since the CES display I figure I can wait a few more weeks and see what the reports from this forum will tell. Personally I feel that unless it shows all of good performance, full WM6, GPS, and usable data via SIM we might all be better off waiting for the HP2133 (see http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/19/hps-umpc-2133-revealed/ ) a product that is surely not going to be a year late.

Hey i found this on the internet, i don't know if it is true or not but the link states that the Shift is now for sale in the UK
http://www.umpcportal.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1230

Just got confirmation that my Shift was shipped (from Devicewire)

It's finally in stock
Dear All, i am glad to inform you all that the HTC Shift is finally in stock for order, looks like the wait is finally over. I am getting mine tomorrow, hope you all get yours soon !

Wellcome

Hesitating, Hesitating
danielherrero said:
Wellcome
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I am hesitating so much between the Shift and this, above mentioned Fujitsu p1620.
The short battery life. No entry in WM without a SIM card (not even WIFI?). No WM that can use the harddisk or SD slot.
The whole WM seems so useless now. I wanted it for long battery life.
Hardly any harddisk space left to bring my favorite films for looking at in the plane.
The P1620 on the other side may take another x months to wait for and is much, much more expensive. And SD cards to carry my films become bigger and cheaper.
My Bucharest dealer just sent me an interesting offer (4397 RON = aout 1170 Euro all in)
I could pick it up tomorrow!.
PLs help me with my decision.
I am a frequent flyer in the cattle class, so I NEED a small tool/toy. I NEED long battery last, but could buy two of course.
Huib
P.s. I think that I buy the Shift now and sell it on this forum cheaper if I go for the Fujitsu later. But still.......

HTC Shift In Stock
B"H
The Shift is now available in the USA, here:
www.onthegosolutions.com
Also, it can be shipped internationally, too.

I wasn't quite sure what you meant that it would take x months for the Fujitsu, the 1620 is available, and has been for a while I think. The U1010 is the one that hasn't launched yet.
If a lot of your use would be on the road, you have to think about battery power for sure. I think the HTC Shift has quite a few drawbacks, but I'm personally buying it because I have fallen for it, and I gotta have it :-D I hope there would be an extended battery eventually, but HTC's choice of battery pack and implementation is going to make it hard (I'm sure some third party manufacturers won't miss the chance and would come up with a new cover etc.) I have a 32GB USB and a 16GB SDHC, so hopefully with these two I could remedy some of the issues with low memory capacity on the Shift (I'd rather move the backup to a USB stick if that's possible, but should be).
herpi said:
I am hesitating so much between the Shift and this, above mentioned Fujitsu p1620.
The short battery life. No entry in WM without a SIM card (not even WIFI?). No WM that can use the harddisk or SD slot.
The whole WM seems so useless now. I wanted it for long battery life.
Hardly any harddisk space left to bring my favorite films for looking at in the plane.
The P1620 on the other side may take another x months to wait for and is much, much more expensive. And SD cards to carry my films become bigger and cheaper.
My Bucharest dealer just sent me an interesting offer (4397 RON = aout 1170 Euro all in)
I could pick it up tomorrow!.
PLs help me with my decision.
I am a frequent flyer in the cattle class, so I NEED a small tool/toy. I NEED long battery last, but could buy two of course.
Huib
P.s. I think that I buy the Shift now and sell it on this forum cheaper if I go for the Fujitsu later. But still.......
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LEO or Touch HD 2 NOW available in the UK

look here
http://www.htc.com/uk/

Stunning! I want one

jigners said:
look here
http://www.htc.com/uk/
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Dont get too excited guys, its not available until November. First shipments around 11th November.

Sexy Unfortunately i wont be getting a new phone till April (FREE upgrade!)

Bah still a year to go on my contract. Ah well it's been more or less precisely one year between the HD and HD2/Leo so hopefuly as soon as my contract is up next year HD3 will be out

In addition, all I can find in regards to operators is that O2 will be stocking it?
Any news from Orange/Vodafone?

Freypal said:
Any news from Orange/Vodafone?
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There's a code for the HD2 on Carphone Warehouse's computer systems, along with an entry on the 'Coming Soon' page of their mobiles.co.uk subsidiary site.
So even if Orange and/or Vodafone don't carry the handset directly, it may well be available through a third-party retailer.

HTC Unveils First Windows® Phone with HTC Sense, the HTC HD2
Quoted from the official release in Taiwan by Peter Chou - CEO HTC Corporation
"At HTC we believe that the best things in life should be experienced, not explained. HTC Sense is based on this principle by making the phone more simple and natural to use and by enabling people to personalise their mobile experience in their own unique way," said Peter Chou, CEO of HTC Corporation. "With HTC Sense, the HTC HD2 melds the power and flexibility of the Windows platform with the most advanced phone we’ve ever created."

jigners said:
Quoted from the official release in Taiwan by Peter Chou - CEO HTC Corporation
"At HTC we believe that the best things in life should be experienced, not explained. HTC Sense is based on this principle by making the phone more simple and natural to use and by enabling people to personalise their mobile experience in their own unique way," said Peter Chou, CEO of HTC Corporation. "With HTC Sense, the HTC HD2 melds the power and flexibility of the Windows platform with the most advanced phone we’ve ever created."
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You can experience it now on your blackstone with a cooked ROM upgrade...!!!!!!

xdaassasin said:
have look http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/HTC/b509/n443/p27241.aspx#tabsAnchor
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...or here http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=188866

I'll be going with the HD2 for £18.99 through MobilePhonesDirect.co.uk.
T-Mobile Combi 35 + Web'n'Walk: 800 minutes, unlimited texts & unlimited data for £39.15 per month. Sounds good to me!
Went with MobilePhonesDirect to get my HD on Vodafone last December and was mightily impressed with their customer service (especially after been led along the garden path by Mobile.co.uk!) Since having an unbranded version of an HTC phone (previous phones had been 'pimped' by O2 and T-Mobile) I'd never go back to one through a regular carrier.

i pre ordered mine sim free on mobile fun for £499.99 inc vat Plus £5.95 for delivery. what a bargain cant wait
here is the link
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/sim-free-htc-touch-hd2-p21936.htm
a very reputable comapny and website which has been around for years

http://vimeo.com/6970304
Now I feel angry that I bought the Diamond 2 instead of waiting for HD2..... Oh well, hopefully they'll release a new device just when I need one.

^^OMG... This time it looks like they're shipping the device with drivers.

Awesome PPC! Will be ordering one unlocked from across the pond

6.1 Topaz units for the UK

Many, many online stores are still receiving 6.1 OS Topaz units despite 6.5 being out. Only Clove.co.uk claims to have the upgraded models. Can I believe this claim considering no one else has ever seen the new units?

Consider that 6.5 has been out for only a few weeks, and that large suppliers will have stocks of popular devices.
6.5 WinMobile devices would only be brought into stock and sold when 6.1 has been fully sold out, otherwise people would try and claim a discount for having "older models" despite there being absolutely no difference between them that a simple software upgrade wouldn't fix.
It's all about the money

Yes, make perfect sense for business. For us consumers, this delay is holding up choice as to where to shop for the best price.
I know is easy to upgrade, but if getting new, why not start with completely new and to me, waiting any longer is starting to feel like a lifetime!
Cheers.

Hi
Yes, make perfect sense for business. For us consumers, this delay is holding up choice as to where to shop for the best price.
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The upgrade gives you the same phone, it is hardly a delay to shopping for one that they don't yet come with 6.5.
Perhaps Clove is opening the box and upgrading them?
Regards
Phil