T-Mobile WM2003 Update Delayed! - MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading

Got through a long conversation with level 5 [email protected] T-mobile and he indicated the T-Mobile release is due in 2-3 weeks.
They had some significant issues with a patch they had for the announced release scheduled for this week and removed the page from their site because they are getting "hundreds" of calls per day.
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Those wieners! But at least they're working on it.
While it would be nice for them to get the thing out the door right away, I think we'll all be happier if they get it right and make us wait a couple of weeks

...(I don't know about hundredS of calls a day, but i know i put in a good 99 per day) 8)

I'm having a problem with my phone - called today and T-Mobile is supposed to be sending out a replacement (Oops, guess I'll have to revert to the 2002 OS before I return this one!)
Anyway, it will be interesting to see what comes on the new one. I'm pretty sure it'll be PPC 2002, but who knows maybe it'll have 2003 on there - though I doubt it.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see what comes on the new one. I'm pretty sure it'll be PPC 2002, but who knows maybe it'll have 2003 on there - though I doubt it.
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I would also be surprised as they are probably sending you a replacement that was 'loaded' a few weeks before now. They probably have hundreds of PPCs with 2002 and I really doubt that they will reload them with the new OS, they will just let the new owner do that.
Sorry. But, hey, maybe we are wrong?
J

I'm not too concerned about what OS it has on it. Not like upgrading it is difficult. But something updated would be nice just for the "ooh!" factor. :-D

I actually just went through a replacement this week with T-Mobile. The phone I eventually received had PPC2002 on it. Beware though - the first replacement phone I received from them was a cheapo Motorola, so they sent the completely wrong phone. I had to order another one and wait a few more days til I received the correct replacement.
Gb.

I work for T-Mo and noticed that we are to sell through our existing inventory and ordering is supposed to cease for the current PocketPc due to lack of supply. I'm sure that what is really going on is that they want us to sell through the models with PPC2002 while they get the final product of WM2003 ready to ship. Makes sense... out with the old.. in with the new..

oh for GOD's sake... lets just call it windows 2004!!!
there is only one month left! i dont want to be in 2004 thinkin im using last year's technology!
i demand 2004 :wink:

ntabikha said:
lets just call it windows 2004!!!
there is only one month left!
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I was just thinking the exact same ****......& since its takin so long 4 this bug free upgrade :roll: ... i want the RS to be flawless.......
..........or :twisted: i :twisted: might :twisted: just :twisted: have :twisted: to :twisted: go :twisted: to :twisted: AT&T...lol

i didnt know we can say *Ship High In Transit* here
good to know, good to know : :twisted:
hey! anyone wants 128MB sd card (new) for $45? i got 3

I am pretty sure the RS will still have many bugs for us to work around. It is the nature of the beast.
I am waiting for information on the new device t-mobile will be launching with WM2003, 802.11 and Bluetooth "capabilities" ( I alwasy worry when they say that!)

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URGENT NEWS ON XDA EXEC

Todays i rang O2 online and they imformed me that EXEC is available as from Monday 26th of September at 8:30am this is not a hoax as i rang 2 different sales advisors and the XDA EXEC is now showing on there latest stock sheet.
I did question them about the 3rd of October date and they imformed me that they had decided to bring the date forward by a week.
O2 has imformed me that there are some seriously exellent 3g data and video calling bolt ons coming so hold tight......
If this indeed so, I'll be there in the morning! Can anyone else confirm this, as Tekguru has been informed that there may be a delay of 2-3 dats as of the 3rd October? Confusing?!?
Yay
Does anyone have details on the pricing structure that O2 will be using?
I don't want to be a killjoy, but I have used O2 for a month when I got an XDA IIs (before I knew about the Exec), and if you need their customer services, you will pay national rate for approx. half an hour before O2 actually get round to speaking with you.
This is the reason I have gone with Voda in the end. T-mobile were pretty good as well, and also Orange were good.
Just be careful in case you need support from them.
Joe
Not quite true
I've been on the phone to o2 last week and just thinking how much better they had gotten. They are much better than 'Club PenPal"
=> Hi, I'm Mo, how can you I help you today?
=> Sorry, please wait for the next rom upgrade.
=> When? When? I don;t know, but have a great day, thank for you using Club Pen pal."
The O2 UK website now has the XDA EXEC on there website!!!!
Bring it on in Australia!!!!
Rang Staff Accounts this morning (o2).
They confirmed that they have a release date of 26/09 but that they don't have it on their systems yet.
Also I've 4.4 months left on my current contract and would cost me about £144 to get out of it...
I would sell my 2i for about 200 quid, so I'm looking at around £170ish in total to get into a new contract with the Exec, though I'm not sure if I would get the Exec at the same price as upgrading from the 2i...
Hmmmmmm
Ant
Just been on the phone to 02 and they are saying that it is out today, but its not in stock and they have no prices for it till its in stock or a date/time it will be instock wtf they are going to call me back when its in stock so that will be sometime never i surpose lol
I just spoke with someone in sales department; today is only a provisional release date, the product will be in stock around 2nd week in october I really want one of theses things...it's driving me CRAZY :evil: having to wait!!!
Anton.Valleyman, u think u could buy two units...I don't live in the UK so I can't buy one direct...maybe we can make a deal :roll: any help?
Sorry, I have a stinking cold today, and I was coming down with it and being miserable yesterday.
I tried to call Voda to see if they can do anything appart from gratuitously skanking me for data (6 quid = 5 mb, 15 for 10, 25 for 42megs...), and when I ask why for 23 quid you get 70 megs on a 3G laptop card, I am put on hold for 45 mins and then I gave up. They have beaten my O2 misery record and now are the front runners in crap service.
My jasjar has a slightly loose screen and so I think it will be RMA'd back to Expansys and cancel the whole thing until T-mob release their one:
T-mobile seem the best deal to me with 200 mins and 55mb data for 35 per month. Any advances on the best voice data mix?
And youmeus, just save up yer $$$ and buy an imate or the other version outright - you don't want a slightly iffy Jasjar do you? :lol: only joking, I wouldn't sell it to anyone if it's not 100% perfect.
I'm going for my lemsip...
Joe
I know what you mean,
Upon waiting 8mins before actually speaking to someone i asked the simple question " is my multimedia enabled?"
15 mins on hold, before being told, they've just enabled it for me, and that they were having problems finding the sim update for my device, and me being ignored when saying i have the settings cab.
= 23 mins not as bad as you and i didnt get pestered for more of the hard earned, tell a lie, they did ask if i needed insurance, told em i got a 3rd party insurance.
i'm begining to see that o2 is terrible when it comes to customer care :roll: oh well, will wait and see what t-mobile have up their corporate sleeves! BUT YOU MUST ADMIT THE BLACK o2 LOOKS "HOT"
Still not out
Well i phoned O2 upgrades this evening and was told that they don't have any details on the XDA Exec.
When i pushed his further - stating i've heard on this forum it should be available today - i was told that the product has been pushed back to next week 3rd October.
I hate the way O2 can give out different information to different people.
Does anyone have any more information on the release date and prices?
Thanks
Choose.
Which one would you like to have ? I think Mitac Mio A701 is a better choice the only drawback Mitac Mio A701 has comparing to Xda Exec is that Exec has QWERTY keyboard.
Theres no comparison dude, Universal is more of a lappy-style accurate data thing, and that Mitac is more like a mobile phone on steroids.
But, ppl like the phone-style thing, hence the phone-windows OS's success I spose.
For me, the Universal is the donkey's ding-a-ling, and the Mitac is a mobile phone.
Do you like the smaller form factor then?
Joe
I rang o2 today.
I was told available 30th October.
I rang back not believing 1st person and was told 3rd October.
Does the mitac not have built in gps? That is a cool feature that should be included in all ppc's
jaythemagician said:
Does the mitac not have built in gps? That is a cool feature that should be included in all ppc's
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it does have a built in GPS not sure if it has built in Wi-Fi.
Looks like they will be about $1,599.95 here in Oz
http://www.mrgadget.com.au/catalog/o2-xda-exec-pocket-pc-p-1013.html

SPV M5000 in Orange October Magazine

They say I'll be out by the end out the month..?
No prices yet though
The dummy is available in the shops and wasnt as big as I was expecting..
Yay, I like Orange. I played with the Demo in their shop, its actualy a good dummy phone, close to the real thing.
Also, Go to the website and get yourself a £1 payg sim.
Then spend £1 on ALL YOU CAN EAT gprs for the day.
Its in their catalogue, you can buy £4 for 4meg for the month, or £1 a day for all you want. Thats the best gprs deal ive seen anywhere, including most of the contracts.
£1 a day for all day!? sounds interesting!
thanks for the info.
JonathanCassar said:
They say I'll be out by the end out the month..?
No prices yet though
The dummy is available in the shops and wasnt as big as I was expecting..
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Last time i rang them (which has been quite a lot over the last few weeks) they said it would be November when it was coming out..... getting so impatient now, been holding off getting a new phone for months to get this!
spoke to oramge in paddington station, and there is an offer where you get 1gig a month fo 3 month, which is great, but then after that you are down to 25 megs for 25 quid or something. they weren't able to offer anything in between.
The 1 gig for three months is a standard offer on all new contracts, its to get you "hooked" on data so they can then sell you loads.
They do sell bundles on their 'data' tarifs, and not too bad, about £25 for 65meg i think.
guys iv been with orange for donkey years and get my devices free on an upgrade (pda's etc) but this time im going to get the o2 exec pro, i know i know same spec etc but the o2 device (to me) just looks great!!!
whats your opinions on the looks for the devices jasjar the m5000 and the rest what looks the best??
p.s orange upgrades told me today it could be 18 oct if were lucky or nov, but thats orange for ya, always last to provide
as far as looks go,
The VPA IV i havent seen in person but it looks plain white to me
not that appealing, it just looks like a gameboy ds, not professional at all
The MDA Pro looks smart with the (almost) aluminium appearance
not the best looking phone of the lot but theres worse (see above)
The SPV M5000 has a gunmetal finish
i guess it can be appealing, its not as good looking as the MDA in my opinion
but they are close
to me though its a tie between the Jasjar and the XDA Exec in terms of sheer appearance, the black simply looks far more professional, and in my opinion far less of a toy (like the VPA), the only thing that clinches it between the 2 is the blue backlight on the keys of the XDA Exec. It's all down to preferance in the end, but that's mine
quiltfish << NICE JIBE :twisted: at the m2000, mate i couldnt agree more! lol :lol: i dont need a gun to defend my self iv got the m2000
just orded myo2 exec online cant wait till i get my hands on it!
I received a phone call today from a company (I can't remember their name) offering me a Free upgrade phone if I stay with Orange.
When I mentioned that I was only interested in the SPV M5000, he looked it up on his system and said that it had failed the testing by Orange and won't be available until February.
He didn't try to sell me an alternative, so I don't believe he was saying it to get me to choose another phone.
I hope he has got it wrong, but who knows. (Orange CS certainly don't) :?
I rang orange this afternoon and they told me it was just finishing the testing and would be ready for the end of the month!
I'm sure these people just pick a phrase out of a hat and say whatever it says!
If Orange mess about much more, i'll give up my 7 year relationship with them and move on..... I never can understand why they are always the last to release new phones!
drummer
>>> thats sales guys talking outa his ass. They will be releasing it as th chap here inoranges store has the device and let me have a play with it- the only issue he reported is that bcauses Oranges 3g Coverage is so poor customers will mainly be using 2g unless they are in a strong signal area(which are limited)but i guess they have to prove to the market that as always they are the last ones to bring out devices-mate iv been with orange contract for 7 donkey years and even though iwork for Vdafone I kept my main contractwith Orange as you know, you get used to having something around for so long(ABIT LIKE THE MISSES :lol: -- scrap that o shel kick my head in! :shock:
and my bills on average of 70-100 a month so all my upgrades i get for free (m2000) so i calld them and asked what they can do as my upgrades due in march they said they will let me upgrade in dec the earliset and they will give me the m5000 free- BUT i cant wait that long an as i prefar the look of the XDA-exec iv just orded that with O2 online and when i get my m5000 im floging it for a healthy profit
and guys they are going to offer you the 18 month contracts when you try to upgrade as being the best thing since a micro wave! but becarefull-catches : you can not upgrade for 18 months! and your phones warrenty period isonly for 12 months! soon though 12 month contrats will be phased out. Vodfone strated itandORangeo2 have followed suit.
shame
JUST GOT MY O2 EXEC!!!!!
and im loving it. been playing with it for a few hours theeeeeeeeeeeeeee only this that annoyed me was o2 active, id never used it before and iv read some people hate it and some love it well i hated it! tried to uninstall it through remove programmes dint do it so had to go into windows folder and hunt the files out I still have the battery icon on the top of my screen next to start does anyone know how to get rid of this?
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ok just released while I was on a mission to remove o2 active iv just buggerd up task manager, so i guess here we go with a reformat-- can anyone b kind enough to advise how to remove o2 active safely?
anyway besides from that i really love the device so far iv made a video call and that was good(until i lost 3g coverage-lol) and im geting use the device-even though its BIGGER and HEAVIER then my m2000 it feels fragile???
Im going to go hunt for sum quality stereo Bluetooth headsets and a stylish case
N2h said:
JUST GOT MY O2 EXEC!!!!!
and im loving it. been playing with it for a few hours theeeeeeeeeeeeeee only this that annoyed me was o2 active, id never used it before and iv read some people hate it and some love it well i hated it! tried to uninstall it through remove programmes dint do it so had to go into windows folder and hunt the files out I still have the battery icon on the top of my screen next to start does anyone know how to get rid of this?
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ok just released while I was on a mission to remove o2 active iv just buggerd up task manager, so i guess here we go with a reformat-- can anyone b kind enough to advise how to remove o2 active safely?
anyway besides from that i really love the device so far iv made a video call and that was good(until i lost 3g coverage-lol) and im geting use the device-even though its BIGGER and HEAVIER then my m2000 it feels fragile???
Im going to go hunt for sum quality stereo Bluetooth headsets and a stylish case
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It's very very difficult, but here goes.
READ THE F*CKING MANUAL
At startup you can choose basic, personal or corporate. Choose BASIC to get all your UK settings and skins and battery icon in today screen. No menus or anything else.
once again, READ THE F*CKING MANUAL!
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READ THE F*CKING MANUAL
At startup you can choose basic, personal or corporate. Choose BASIC to get all your UK settings and skins and battery icon in today screen. No menus or anything else.
once again, READ THE F*CKING MANUAL![/quote]<<<<<<<<
WHAT A ****ING TWAT! YEH THATS YOU "Southern_Man"
LISTEN PRICK WATCH YOUR ****ING LANGUAGE, OK ASSHOLE WHEN YOU SELECT BASIC OPTION ON INSTALLATION IT STILL INSTALLS THE "****ING FILES" TO YOUR DEVICE-SO RETARD KEEP YOUR ****ING OPINIONS TO YOURSELF!
AND IF YOUR PREPARED TO GIVE OTHER PEOPLE ABUSE WHEN THERE NO NEED TAKE THAT JUNK THAT YOU CALL A PDA AND SHOVE IT WHERE THE SUN DOES NOT SHINE"! ****!
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
I had a nice prepaid subscription with an upstarting provider back when I lived in Oslo. Free gprs/mms without any limitations whatsoever. My counter stopped on 4gigs after being online for a year but I think that's probably an error on the programme's side. Or?
Arctura >>
your one lucky guy!! lol
i dont think you should call your service provider to discuss this oversight!
its a shame we cant get a fluke like that with the uk networks
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Also, Go to the website and get yourself a £1 payg sim.
Then spend £1 on ALL YOU CAN EAT gprs for the day.
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wow... that is brilliant - thanks very much for pointing that out - you've probably saved me a fortune
i've got an O2 xda exec, but have ordered myself a £1 orange sim for those days when i know i've got a long train journey
(if anyone else is interested - see http://www.orange.co.uk/service_plans/payasyougo/extra_costs.html#more_Extras)

Those Waiting From T-mobile...

2nd October.. T-mobile have updated their website, placed the MDA Vario II back on their website, Now that my mother says im allowed to have one, I rang to make sure they had some in stock, the person i was talking to, said there was quite a few ! Great !
Placed an order as soon as possible, with a bit of hitches during the order process using Firefox (did it in Internet Explorer in the end). Got my PAC Code from Orange (unfortunatly it has to come through the mail, delaying the process even more...)
Hopefulli i'll be a proud new owner of the MDA Vario II !!!! Can't wait.
Can anyone give me any useful links or tools? Any Pre-cautions?
Finally... I use a Series 60 Symbian (Nokia 7610), i want to backup all my messages and contacts and get them on the Pocket PC Somehow, Any ideas?
Yikes,
T-mob certinely know how to charge top whack?
Makes the VarioII V M3100 much more expensive on similar plans even ?
Maybe give it a week or two and see if the demand falls bringing down the prices hopefully..
LoL i hope your not trying to say im wasting my money...
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LoL i hope your not trying to say im wasting my money...
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No not realy, just dont want to find the price of the phone dropping off next week due to increased supply and maybe less demand, with the recent shortage of the Vario II over the past weeks T-mob maybe think the price can be 'hiked up'
Any ideas of the cost of the phone maybe a few weeks back on similar deals ?
I think the prices are about the same as they were in August. They introduced a £30 off the phone promotion during September, which now looks like it has finished.
The £5 of the plans, and 3 months free webnwalk started in September, and looks like it is continuing. Although the WebNwalk plans are revised, giving you less data (although it isn't supposed to be a hard limit).
Anyone know how T-mobile implement changes to their plans for existing contracts?
Example; if we took out webnwalk with 2gb data, and it is now advertised as 1Gb.
lol thanks killabeezz, i hope not either, but compared to Orange deals, their deals are almost double on contract and handset price (unless upgrading).
38h21543: Im sure you get to keep your contract, until it ends, in which case you'll need to pick one of the new contracts. So you still get to keep the 2gb data.

Where I can buy a HTC Shift,new in box?

I'm in China,I'm gonna buy a new shift,but it doesn't release in Chinese market yet.....Someone could recommend somewhere I can buy it?I can pay it by paypal.
And I have a question about the GSM,is it possible to make a call via.HTC Shift?
Regards,
Brose
the shift seems to be unreleased yet ... but could come very soon.
I have found a new piece of information on the Expansys site :
http://www.expansys.fr/p.aspx?i=154231
It seems the it will comes at the end of the month ... and I think that France will be the first country to get the Shift. I'm waiting here in Belgium and all the stores do not have any information about the release date..
About the phone options .. if you look at the HTC site in the Support tab, you'll see that SMS are working but not the phone (by default). But here we are pretty sure that we will be able to make it able to make and receive calls... but we have to wait to get some devices to be sure about it.
I hope I have fully answered your questions.
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the shift seems to be unreleased yet ... but could come very soon.
I have found a new piece of information on the Expansys site :
http://www.expansys.fr/p.aspx?i=154231
It seems the it will comes at the end of the month ... and I think that France will be the first country to get the Shift. I'm waiting here in Belgium and all the stores do not have any information about the release date..
About the phone options .. if you look at the HTC site in the Support tab, you'll see that SMS are working but not the phone (by default). But here we are pretty sure that we will be able to make it able to make and receive calls... but we have to wait to get some devices to be sure about it.
I hope I have fully answered your questions.
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Hi,koala996....Really really thanks for your help,man!
Frankly I found there have some sellers in ebay.com that they are selling HTC Shift,but I'm confused that their device just is 20GB hard disk,I noted the HTC Shift is 40GB hard disk from the HTC Website....Holy****! What's its exact version??
Wow...U awesome,men! I do hope u will work the phone call feature out in future. Cheers!
Brose
Shift is available in some stores
look here : http://www.cel.ro/pda-gps/pda-htc-shift-l/
price is 1210 EUR
HTC Shift
In fact HTC Shift is already in some countries. But they are kept with the distributors they are not allowed to pass it on to the shops yet. The reason is because they wanted other shops around the world to compete fairly, rather than speculate on it.
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look here : http://www.cel.ro/pda-gps/pda-htc-shift-l/
price is 1210 EUR
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I live in Bucharest.
Called them and........
What else could you expect.
Huib
P.s. From tomorrow staying a week in Holland. By God I hope I will find one there.
Sorry...
Sorry to say but haven't seen it here yet
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Sorry to say but haven't seen it here yet
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In Holland? Yes but Expansys talks about 5 days. maybe ,maybe.
Huib
HTC SHIFT
800MHz, 1GB, 40GB, Vista Business, EU Andere UMPC › Devices Ca. 4 Dagen €1.259,95
Just like all of us they have been very optimistic in their assumptions for a delivery date.
And time after time they delyed it...
But as you mentioned, we will see...
on expansys, the release has been push back once again, man.....i guess i will need to contact my HTC contact to find out when they are really going to release the Shift.
It's not that they are spoiled by unrealistic delivery date provided by expansys. They are actually lying every month by saying this thing is available now... from official PR! and since last october. I understand a company meeting a last minute problem before going on the production channel, but this announcment where done knowing the production was not going, as there is an estimated 2 weeks between the first unit produced and the actual delivery.
That or we have some kind of war going behind the scene between HTC and some other company.
great work ! they lying again! it's ok for me ...i buy an asus r2hv , i can't wait .....time is money , no? for htc maybe not. stupid company!
I can hardly believe that I too am falling into the trap of posting about HTC Shift availability. But here I go.
Clove technology www.clove.co.uk a company who have been trading since Psion days told me that my pre-order of the HTC Shift can now be executed and that first stock is due Tuesday march 04th 2008.
Well since I've waited about 1 year now since the CES display I figure I can wait a few more weeks and see what the reports from this forum will tell. Personally I feel that unless it shows all of good performance, full WM6, GPS, and usable data via SIM we might all be better off waiting for the HP2133 (see http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/19/hps-umpc-2133-revealed/ ) a product that is surely not going to be a year late.
Hey i found this on the internet, i don't know if it is true or not but the link states that the Shift is now for sale in the UK
http://www.umpcportal.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1230
Just got confirmation that my Shift was shipped (from Devicewire)
It's finally in stock
Dear All, i am glad to inform you all that the HTC Shift is finally in stock for order, looks like the wait is finally over. I am getting mine tomorrow, hope you all get yours soon !
Wellcome
Hesitating, Hesitating
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Wellcome
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I am hesitating so much between the Shift and this, above mentioned Fujitsu p1620.
The short battery life. No entry in WM without a SIM card (not even WIFI?). No WM that can use the harddisk or SD slot.
The whole WM seems so useless now. I wanted it for long battery life.
Hardly any harddisk space left to bring my favorite films for looking at in the plane.
The P1620 on the other side may take another x months to wait for and is much, much more expensive. And SD cards to carry my films become bigger and cheaper.
My Bucharest dealer just sent me an interesting offer (4397 RON = aout 1170 Euro all in)
I could pick it up tomorrow!.
PLs help me with my decision.
I am a frequent flyer in the cattle class, so I NEED a small tool/toy. I NEED long battery last, but could buy two of course.
Huib
P.s. I think that I buy the Shift now and sell it on this forum cheaper if I go for the Fujitsu later. But still.......
HTC Shift In Stock
B"H
The Shift is now available in the USA, here:
www.onthegosolutions.com
Also, it can be shipped internationally, too.
I wasn't quite sure what you meant that it would take x months for the Fujitsu, the 1620 is available, and has been for a while I think. The U1010 is the one that hasn't launched yet.
If a lot of your use would be on the road, you have to think about battery power for sure. I think the HTC Shift has quite a few drawbacks, but I'm personally buying it because I have fallen for it, and I gotta have it :-D I hope there would be an extended battery eventually, but HTC's choice of battery pack and implementation is going to make it hard (I'm sure some third party manufacturers won't miss the chance and would come up with a new cover etc.) I have a 32GB USB and a 16GB SDHC, so hopefully with these two I could remedy some of the issues with low memory capacity on the Shift (I'd rather move the backup to a USB stick if that's possible, but should be).
herpi said:
I am hesitating so much between the Shift and this, above mentioned Fujitsu p1620.
The short battery life. No entry in WM without a SIM card (not even WIFI?). No WM that can use the harddisk or SD slot.
The whole WM seems so useless now. I wanted it for long battery life.
Hardly any harddisk space left to bring my favorite films for looking at in the plane.
The P1620 on the other side may take another x months to wait for and is much, much more expensive. And SD cards to carry my films become bigger and cheaper.
My Bucharest dealer just sent me an interesting offer (4397 RON = aout 1170 Euro all in)
I could pick it up tomorrow!.
PLs help me with my decision.
I am a frequent flyer in the cattle class, so I NEED a small tool/toy. I NEED long battery last, but could buy two of course.
Huib
P.s. I think that I buy the Shift now and sell it on this forum cheaper if I go for the Fujitsu later. But still.......
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HTC HD2 - Pre-Order or Wait?

As the title says, What would you do? Pre-Order expecting stock to be non existant when actually released? or wait for o2 to give away their hand?
I am on o2 don't want to move to another service provider, definatly want the phone as soon as its out or as near as. My contract isn't due till july
I do have some cash that I can use to buy but not ideal (the gaffa will kill me).
Paying off my existing contract will be cheaper than buying the HD2 but then I won't be able to upgrade for 18months.
or buy the phone and in less than 9 months I can get another one and sell it.
I just don't know. Do I think about things too much? LOL
Either way I will have my HD for sale as soon as I get the HD2! Whats a fair price?
Personally I'd wait. There's always problems when a new thing comes out, whether it's not enough stock to go around (remember all the stuff with the HD from mobiles.co.uk this time last year?) or technical problems that need ironing out. It's usually best to let all the hooha die down and let everyone else put up with and solve all the issues
I know what you mean, I got my HD from mobiles.co.uk but didn't experience any problems, process was smooth and got the phone really quick.
Also just found the HD2 for £499 which is much cheaper than most other places. God its so hard not to click buy buy buy!!
Oh dear my finger slipped. Got it for £494.95 + Delivery.
Anyone want a Mint HD?
Where is it that price please?
evilskanker said:
Where is it that price please?
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MobileFun £499 with this Promotional Code "MFAWOCT9" Job Done!!!
Just a waiting game now!! I am so impulsive!! LOL
Thanks, might join the 'impulsive buyers union', although the seeming lack of a front camera on the HD2 is a potential stumbling block for me...
Cheers for the heads-up Richard.
I'm currently on a monthly SIM only contract with O2, and spoke to them yesterday about upgrading when they get the phone. I was strongly considering doing that, but I reckon I'll pay mobilefun a visit and then sell my HD to make back half the cost.
Nice - thanks
Edit: Ooooh - just noticed the release date of 11/11/09. O2 is looking appealing again!
Also on sim only with o2 at the moment - they seemingly don't let you upgrade until you've been on sim only for 6 months though for some reason, so I think if I want it before February (when I'll have been with them for 6 months) I will need to buy it, and stick on the cheap sim only deal.
Oh, and does anyone know when mobilefun charge your card - on order or on dispatch? Thanks!
johncmolyneux said:
Cheers for the heads-up Richard.
I'm currently on a monthly SIM only contract with O2, and spoke to them yesterday about upgrading when they get the phone. I was strongly considering doing that, but I reckon I'll pay mobilefun a visit and then sell my HD to make back half the cost.
Nice - thanks
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Your welcome, Thats exactly my plan now. I think you can upgrade 3 months early on o2 18 month contracts too so in april I can get another and sell it. Then the original HD2 won't of cost me a bean. If all goes to plan that is. LOL
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Thanks, might join the 'impulsive buyers union', although the seeming lack of a front camera on the HD2 is a potential stumbling block for me...
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I am a little dissapointed they give new hardware and take some other hardware away from us at the same time but I think they have realised that Video calling just hasn't taken off so they probably don't see the point of having a front camera.
I can count on 1 hand how many times I have used it since having a Diamond and my HD.
My girlfriend might see it differently as she uses the front camera as a mirror sometimes! lol
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Also on sim only with o2 at the moment - they seemingly don't let you upgrade until you've been on sim only for 6 months though for some reason
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skank - ask them to put you through to cancellations and ask them the same question. Yesterday, the CS girl I spoke to told me exactly the same thing as you, but put me through to cancellations because I had a query about cancelling my contract and when it would take effect. The girl in cancellations checked and said that they can do 2 types of credit check. One of them means you can't upgrade within the first 6 months, but the other means you can upgrade whenever you want. She said since they'd done a full credit check on me when I joined, I could upgrade immediately, so I'll probably go for that IN 10 DAYS TIME!!!! when the phone is supposed to become available.
It sounded like the CS staff don't really have the full picture, but the cancellations staff know a bit more. They were really helpful.
Good luck!
Thanks John. I did go to cancellations when I called but the guy seemed a bit dopey. Might call back. He was saying it might depend on whether or not I was with o2 before I went sim only, which I wasn't.
Same here - I was with Orange until they did that whole price change blunder. I was one of the lucky ones who got out of the contract and immediately moved to a virgin sim only deal. The coverage was sooooooo bad that I moved to O2. I've only been with them a week and they were more than happy to upgrade me.
Maybe you're right - call back and cross your fingers that you get someone a bit more clued up. I really should have asked the girl I spoke to for her name as I expect the next person I speak to will say "No. Can't upgrade you." and I'll then be outside the 14 day cancellation period.
I just thought i'd post this up, a reply I just got from o2 regarding the HD2. Doesn't really bother me now I have pre-ordered but some of you may be interested.
Good afternoon Richard
Thanks for emailing us about your phone query. I understand that you're interested in buying an HTC HD2 and want to know when it'd be available with us. Let me quickly look into this matter.
Richard, you'll be excited to know that this fantastic phone will soon be available with us. However, I'm unable to comment on when this phone will be launched as it's due to be released in the future. As soon as its available with us, it'll be immediately updated on our website.
Cheers Richard.
The girl I spoke to said that O2 has a release date of 19/10/09, but it's not official yet, as they're still "going through checks". That date can be put back. Basically, they'll put it on the website as soon as they have a definite and confirmed release date.
Need now to figure out how to sleep for a week and a half without starving or getting sacked, just to make the day come quicker! lol
Just called o2 and they said definitely no upgrade before 6 months, for anyone. You might want to call and check john!
I know you can't get a PAC and use it on the same network, but is it possible to go from o2 simplicity - orange PAYG - o2 contract with HD2?
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Cheers Richard.
The girl I spoke to said that O2 has a release date of 19/10/09, but it's not official yet, as they're still "going through checks". That date can be put back. Basically, they'll put it on the website as soon as they have a definite and confirmed release date.
Need now to figure out how to sleep for a week and a half without starving or getting sacked, just to make the day come quicker! lol
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Yeah, wish we could hibernate!! Your like me, Hate waiting for new tech!! LOL
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Just called o2 and they said definitely no upgrade before 6 months, for anyone. You might want to call and check john!
I know you can't get a PAC and use it on the same network, but is it possible to go from o2 simplicity - orange PAYG - o2 contract with HD2?
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Well I hope to have more luck than you're having. The girl I spoke to said I didn't even need to go via the PAYG route to keep my number. I was considering a 14 day cancellation, then an O2 PAYG, then an O2 contract.
Guess we'll just have to wait and see. If I get anyone helpful again, I'll make sure to get their name (and possibly number), and pass it on to you.
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Well I hope to have more luck than you're having. The girl I spoke to said I didn't even need to go via the PAYG route to keep my number. I was considering a 14 day cancellation, then an O2 PAYG, then an O2 contract.
Guess we'll just have to wait and see. If I get anyone helpful again, I'll make sure to get their name (and possibly number), and pass it on to you.
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Thanks John. Good luck, and if you could let me know that would be great.

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