Replacing a dead Hermes.. should I wait? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

My Hermes has died on me (long story; it's not recoverable without a $600 USD new system board)...
My question is... should I wait for "the next thing" from HTC, or should I get another TyTN/Hermes. I loved my phone, and would love to have another one, but the Hermes has been out for almost a year now, and I assume HTC is about to start releasing new phones.
The Trinity is a nice phone ... other than not having a keyboard (wtf?).
Basically -- anyone know if the "next generation" TyTN is coming out soon, with a faster CPU and *prays* GPS?
I don't want to wait too long - I've fallen back to my Motorola L6, and everytime I look at it I feel like I'm going to cry.

jmat said:
My Hermes has died on me (long story; it's not recoverable without a $600 USD new system board)...
My question is... should I wait for "the next thing" from HTC, or should I get another TyTN/Hermes. I loved my phone, and would love to have another one, but the Hermes has been out for almost a year now, and I assume HTC is about to start releasing new phones.
The Trinity is a nice phone ... other than not having a keyboard (wtf?).
Basically -- anyone know if the "next generation" TyTN is coming out soon, with a faster CPU and *prays* GPS?
I don't want to wait too long - I've fallen back to my Motorola L6, and everytime I look at it I feel like I'm going to cry.
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HTC Kaiser?
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=733
Mike

mikechannon said:
HTC Kaiser?
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=733
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Oh wow.. *drools* That's a beautiful phone. Interesting how they got rid of the slider, too.
My problem will be having the patience to wait until June-July. :-D
Of course, I waited five months for the TyTN to become available here in the US, so I guess I can wait three months for the Kaiser.
Thanks!

Of course if you are really patient you will wait 9 months and the price will have dropped as well But that's far too sensible for all of us here I'm sure!!
Mike

HTC Kaiser - when?
I really want this phone. GPS + 3g = say goodbye to my Wizard.
Question is - the estimated US release date is June 2007. For those of you who have followed HTC for a while - how accurate do you think this is? Will it be available unlocked online before I can buy it from Cingular? How long will it take for Cingular to start selling it after it is officially released? (Assuming they're planning to sell it at all)
Cheers.....

warwickwebb said:
I really want this phone. GPS + 3g = say goodbye to my Wizard.
Question is - the estimated US release date is June 2007. For those of you who have followed HTC for a while - how accurate do you think this is? Will it be available unlocked online before I can buy it from Cingular? How long will it take for Cingular to start selling it after it is officially released? (Assuming they're planning to sell it at all)
Cheers.....
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Ditto.
I want...I want...I need...I need...

warwickwebb said:
I really want this phone. GPS + 3g = say goodbye to my Wizard.
Question is - the estimated US release date is June 2007. For those of you who have followed HTC for a while - how accurate do you think this is? Will it be available unlocked online before I can buy it from Cingular? How long will it take for Cingular to start selling it after it is officially released?
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I'm pretty sure Cingular will have it, because they've been testing HSUPA over the past few months -- and the Kaiser is one of the first (and only) ones that has been announced that will have it. It will probably end up replacing the 8525.
Going by the Hermes/TyTN schedule... the TyTN was announced to be released in June 2006. It didn't show up in the US until August, but those were imported models. A lot of the early models had some big problems (screen, keyboard, etc). They really started to roll into the US in October.
Cingular started testing the 8525 in September 2006. They didn't launch it until December (I think?). They had to tweak the HSDPA network to handle the TyTN/8525.
I bet those dates will be around the same for this new phone. Cingular/AT&T will be testing out the HSUPA network with this thing..

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T-Mobile WM2003 Update Delayed!

Got through a long conversation with level 5 [email protected] T-mobile and he indicated the T-Mobile release is due in 2-3 weeks.
They had some significant issues with a patch they had for the announced release scheduled for this week and removed the page from their site because they are getting "hundreds" of calls per day.
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Those wieners! But at least they're working on it.
While it would be nice for them to get the thing out the door right away, I think we'll all be happier if they get it right and make us wait a couple of weeks
...(I don't know about hundredS of calls a day, but i know i put in a good 99 per day) 8)
I'm having a problem with my phone - called today and T-Mobile is supposed to be sending out a replacement (Oops, guess I'll have to revert to the 2002 OS before I return this one!)
Anyway, it will be interesting to see what comes on the new one. I'm pretty sure it'll be PPC 2002, but who knows maybe it'll have 2003 on there - though I doubt it.
Anyway, it will be interesting to see what comes on the new one. I'm pretty sure it'll be PPC 2002, but who knows maybe it'll have 2003 on there - though I doubt it.
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I would also be surprised as they are probably sending you a replacement that was 'loaded' a few weeks before now. They probably have hundreds of PPCs with 2002 and I really doubt that they will reload them with the new OS, they will just let the new owner do that.
Sorry. But, hey, maybe we are wrong?
J
I'm not too concerned about what OS it has on it. Not like upgrading it is difficult. But something updated would be nice just for the "ooh!" factor. :-D
I actually just went through a replacement this week with T-Mobile. The phone I eventually received had PPC2002 on it. Beware though - the first replacement phone I received from them was a cheapo Motorola, so they sent the completely wrong phone. I had to order another one and wait a few more days til I received the correct replacement.
Gb.
I work for T-Mo and noticed that we are to sell through our existing inventory and ordering is supposed to cease for the current PocketPc due to lack of supply. I'm sure that what is really going on is that they want us to sell through the models with PPC2002 while they get the final product of WM2003 ready to ship. Makes sense... out with the old.. in with the new..
oh for GOD's sake... lets just call it windows 2004!!!
there is only one month left! i dont want to be in 2004 thinkin im using last year's technology!
i demand 2004 :wink:
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lets just call it windows 2004!!!
there is only one month left!
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I was just thinking the exact same ****......& since its takin so long 4 this bug free upgrade :roll: ... i want the RS to be flawless.......
..........or :twisted: i :twisted: might :twisted: just :twisted: have :twisted: to :twisted: go :twisted: to :twisted: AT&T...lol
i didnt know we can say *Ship High In Transit* here
good to know, good to know : :twisted:
hey! anyone wants 128MB sd card (new) for $45? i got 3
I am pretty sure the RS will still have many bugs for us to work around. It is the nature of the beast.
I am waiting for information on the new device t-mobile will be launching with WM2003, 802.11 and Bluetooth "capabilities" ( I alwasy worry when they say that!)

7501 Listed on Amazon - Available August 1, 2007

I'm not sure when this showed up on Amazon, but it's been in the last couple of days. I've heard that Amazon was going to be the first distributor of the 7501 in the U.S. and it looks like it will be available August 1st. Here's the link to the listing ... http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Advantage...8543?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1178972918&sr=8-1
We can't order it yet, but can you can sign up for an email when it becomes available.
Thats good news for you guys in the US. Should hopefully mean more accessories will start to be released as it appears people are slow on the uptake with tmanufacturing acessories for the Advantage as there isnt too much to choose from.
Also hopefully will mean Windows Mobile 6 for the rest of us Ameo / Advantage owners who are on Windows Mobile 5! I dont mind waiting till August!
x7501
Actually after reading the link you posted.That is the X7500 and Amazon will not be the only organisation selling this device.David of Mad Monkey boy gadgets will have the device on hand when it is released.
I believe this is the 7501 since it has WM6
It looks like the pictures are of the 7500, since it has the webcamera on the front. Although, in the text it clearly states it's "Powered by Microsoft Windows Mobile 6", which is the key differentiator for the 7501 vs. 7500. I think Amazon just used standard "stock photos" for the ad, just to get it up. If I can get a 7500 with WM6 then I'm all for it, but I don't believe that's offered anywhere yet. What's everyone else think?
Also, thanks for mentioning Mad Monkey Boy Gadgets. Does anyone else have any recommendations of where the X7501 will be available? I don't have any particular allegiance to Amazon, so I would welcome some price competition.
olliesshop said:
It looks like the pictures are of the 7500, since it has the webcamera on the front. Although, in the text it clearly states it's "Powered by Microsoft Windows Mobile 6", which is the key differentiator for the 7501 vs. 7500. I think Amazon just used standard "stock photos" for the ad, just to get it up. If I can get a 7500 with WM6 then I'm all for it, but I don't believe that's offered anywhere yet. What's everyone else think?
Also, thanks for mentioning Mad Monkey Boy Gadgets. Does anyone else have any recommendations of where the X7501 will be available? I don't have any particular allegiance to Amazon, so I would welcome some price competition.
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actually, i see no points of getting the HTX X7501 if you can get X7500. There will be official WM6 update for X7500, it has been confirm and announce already.
So which one will you get? x7500 with front camera and WM6 and you don't need to wait, or x7501 with no front camera with WM6 but you have to wait?
I am still trying to figure out what is there even a X7501, my internal contact in HTC can not answer it, and the best guess is x7501 is target for US market only, but hey, x7500 is also being sold in US now.
Good point
The only reasons I was waiting was to get a fresh WM6 build and to make sure it works with AT&T 3G 1900Hz. I was without my Universal for about 3 months after a disasterous official i-mate ROM upgrade. I ended up having to get a new "mother board" for it in the end and it seemed like an eternity. Evidently the board was faulty and it got locked on the splash screen.
Although, if you think the X7500 is better (with the front camera), the WM6 upgrade will go smoothly and it works on the U.S. 3G 1900Hz AT&T 3G network, I may go ahead and get the 7500. I sure don't want to wait if I don't have to.
Thank you very much for your insight.
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The only reasons I was waiting was to get a fresh WM6 build and to make sure it works with AT&T 3G 1900Hz. I was without my Universal for about 3 months after a disasterous official i-mate ROM upgrade. I ended up having to get a new "mother board" for it in the end and it seemed like an eternity. Evidently the board was faulty and it got locked on the splash screen.
Although, if you think the X7500 is better (with the front camera), the WM6 upgrade will go smoothly and it works on the U.S. 3G 1900Hz AT&T 3G network, I may go ahead and get the 7500. I sure don't want to wait if I don't have to.
Thank you very much for your insight.
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i am 95% sure it will work in US (some people are already using x7500 in US, you can ask them). And yes WM6 update will run smoothly on x7500 too. So yes, i think x7500 is better. You see, the point is US is not suppose to have x7500 for sell, but some people import it therefore it's now available for buy too. Therefore it's no point waiting x7501.
Bare in mind the reason why x7501 take off front camera is the network in US doesn't allow video call, but hey, you can still use it for taking picture of yourself
Yes, it does work on the Cingular 3g network. As a matter of fact, it works great. No issues at all on the cingular 3g network.
Doesn't allow video telephony... unfortunatly true. The network is provisioned, sites are being added regularly and SUDs work fine. If you can manage to have someone add the SOCs for you or in some cases write the proper class on your SIM, you can use it. Why oh why marketing chooses not to turn on the switch. Market is ready to pay to use the service, and network deployed should suffice to the extra load. Most sites have enough bandwith to sustain data connection over 3G and video telephony. *sigh* why are northamerican GSM service providers so behind in the offering? Devices, services... I'm moving back to hong kong! Hutchison isn't bad at all in comparison now.
wu5262 said:
i am 95% sure it will work in US (some people are already using x7500 in US, you can ask them). And yes WM6 update will run smoothly on x7500 too. So yes, i think x7500 is better. You see, the point is US is not suppose to have x7500 for sell, but some people import it therefore it's now available for buy too. Therefore it's no point waiting x7501.
Bare in mind the reason why x7501 take off front camera is the network in US doesn't allow video call, but hey, you can still use it for taking picture of yourself
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Thanks for the news !!!
That's great news that it definitely works on the Cingular/AT&T 3G network. I've had horrible reception on my Universal ever since they transitioned to 3G in January. I think Cingular re-prioritized their towers to 3G and left the 2G/GSM network with less bandwidth ... and I can't use the 3G since the Universal 3G is the 2100Hz European version.
Does anyone have a source you would recommend for the HTC version (in Black) for the US? I bought my XDAII and Universal from overseas and I would sure like to buy from the U.S. this time, if possible.
Finally, as anyone heard firm timing on an official HTC WM6 upgrade? Sorry for being a little paranoid, but ever since I turned my Universal into a brick last year I've gotten a little squeamish on doing ROM upgrades.
Thank you all again for the help. I'm hoping others in the U.S. are in my position are reading this and will also benefit from this thread.
olliesshop said:
That's great news that it definitely works on the Cingular/AT&T 3G network. I've had horrible reception on my Universal ever since they transitioned to 3G in January. I think Cingular re-prioritized their towers to 3G and left the 2G/GSM network with less bandwidth ... and I can't use the 3G since the Universal 3G is the 2100Hz European version.
Does anyone have a source you would recommend for the HTC version (in Black) for the US? I bought my XDAII and Universal from overseas and I would sure like to buy from the U.S. this time, if possible.
Finally, as anyone heard firm timing on an official HTC WM6 upgrade? Sorry for being a little paranoid, but ever since I turned my Universal into a brick last year I've gotten a little squeamish on doing ROM upgrades.
Thank you all again for the help. I'm hoping others in the U.S. are in my position are reading this and will also benefit from this thread.
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wm6 update will be available in about 2 months
I bought mine from
http://www.dweiniger.com/
which one? 7501?
lennyfl said:
http://www.dweiniger.com/
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Worst... webdesign... ever...
Nara-e-Mastana said:
Which one? 7501?
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Couldn't be, it's not out yet. Or am I lost?
This is incredible !!!
As an update, I ended up buying an X7501 (opps ... meant X7500) through eBay (http://www.phonesource-usa.com/cell-phone-555-cheap/HTC-Advantage-X7500---Plus-FREE-2GB-miniSD.php).
I just got it a couple of hours ago and all I can say is this completely blows my Universal out of the water !!! I've just done the basic setups for now, but everything went so smoothly. The screen is wonderful and I actually like the keyboard better in some ways. I could go on an on, but that's for another thread/post. I just wanted to thank you all for the guidance ... great advice !!!
olliesshop said:
As an update, I ended up buying an X7501 through eBay (http://www.phonesource-usa.com/cell-phone-555-cheap/HTC-Advantage-X7500---Plus-FREE-2GB-miniSD.php).
I just got it a couple of hours ago and all I can say is this completely blows my Universal out of the water !!! I've just done the basic setups for now, but everything went so smoothly. The screen is wonderful and I actually like the keyboard better in some ways. I could go on an on, but that's for another thread/post. I just wanted to thank you all for the guidance ... great advice !!!
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I believe you mean a X7500, the x7501 comes with Windows Mobile 6 and is not released yet...But yea, I love my x7500 too!
hi guys/gals,
just to verify olliesshop, is it the 7500-wm-5 or 7501-wm-6 that you received ?
i,m just down i-94 in ann arbor and had my jasjar up until a few months ago, but it seemed slow and had to be reset regularly, and reception for the phone and data was quite slow, not to mention the poor camera.
ahhhhhhhhh but now that i have the trion, i really do miss that vga screen!
anyway please let us know which version you have,and does it have the front video camera ?, price you paid and how quickly did you receive it ?
thanks,
djsell
First, yes it was the X7500, sorry for the typo.
Second, it came with WM5 and I expect to upgrade to WM6 in a couple months, along with all the other X7500 owners. Also, it does have the front video camera. I bought it through good old eBay. Here's the link to the item ... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSAA:US:11&Item=220111572595. My research showed only a few X7500 retailers, so I went to eBay to check out the one's sold there. This one seemed like the best deal and they where based in the U.S. (Las Vegas). I called them up and they seemed nice so I went with them ... http://www.phonesource-usa.com/cell-phone-555-cheap/HTC-Advantage-X7500---Plus-FREE-2GB-miniSD.php. So far, it's still an incredible machine compared to my Jasjar.
The only 2 minor problems I have so far:
1. The clear part of the keyboard is getting scratched from the "sharp metal" edge of the screen. It's slightly poud of the black case so it scrapes the clear part as it slides over it. So my plan is to wait until there's no interference (after it's worn all the way down) and polish the clear plastic.
2. There's no place to put the keyboard when you just want to use the main part of the device. So I end up putting in my pocket. I assumed it would magnetically attach to the back of the device, but it doesn't seem to.
Overall summary ... I was waiting for the Omni, but it seems like it's turning out to be vaporware or at least not available until late this year. This was clearly the right decision. The Cingular/AT&T 3G works flawlessly in Grosse Pointe, where my Jasjar could barely get a signal anyware after they introduced 3G. The large screen is awesome compared to the Jasjar. I could go on and on, but I will be having tonnes of fun with with for a while.
i got mine about 2 weeks ago. have a problem when i make calls it drops the call before it rings sometimes i have to send 3 times in a row before the call goes through. also i can receive text messages but i can't send them. not sure if its the x7500 or the sim card on both problems.
other than these issues this thing is great im in grosse ile mi. and my reception is good
had verizon and recetion here was bad
waiting for the rom ugrade
if anyone has any ideas for thes problems please post
thank you
getwet said:
i got mine about 2 weeks ago. have a problem when i make calls it drops the call before it rings sometimes i have to send 3 times in a row before the call goes through. also i can receive text messages but i can't send them. not sure if its the x7500 or the sim card on both problems.
other than these issues this thing is great im in grosse ile mi. and my reception is good
had verizon and recetion here was bad
waiting for the rom ugrade
if anyone has any ideas for thes problems please post
thank you
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For your SMS problem; Did you set your SMS centre number in your phone settings?
If you just installed the SIM card after getting the unit then your SMS and Voicemail numbers need to be entered in the phone settings.

Where I can buy a HTC Shift,new in box?

I'm in China,I'm gonna buy a new shift,but it doesn't release in Chinese market yet.....Someone could recommend somewhere I can buy it?I can pay it by paypal.
And I have a question about the GSM,is it possible to make a call via.HTC Shift?
Regards,
Brose
the shift seems to be unreleased yet ... but could come very soon.
I have found a new piece of information on the Expansys site :
http://www.expansys.fr/p.aspx?i=154231
It seems the it will comes at the end of the month ... and I think that France will be the first country to get the Shift. I'm waiting here in Belgium and all the stores do not have any information about the release date..
About the phone options .. if you look at the HTC site in the Support tab, you'll see that SMS are working but not the phone (by default). But here we are pretty sure that we will be able to make it able to make and receive calls... but we have to wait to get some devices to be sure about it.
I hope I have fully answered your questions.
koala996 said:
the shift seems to be unreleased yet ... but could come very soon.
I have found a new piece of information on the Expansys site :
http://www.expansys.fr/p.aspx?i=154231
It seems the it will comes at the end of the month ... and I think that France will be the first country to get the Shift. I'm waiting here in Belgium and all the stores do not have any information about the release date..
About the phone options .. if you look at the HTC site in the Support tab, you'll see that SMS are working but not the phone (by default). But here we are pretty sure that we will be able to make it able to make and receive calls... but we have to wait to get some devices to be sure about it.
I hope I have fully answered your questions.
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Hi,koala996....Really really thanks for your help,man!
Frankly I found there have some sellers in ebay.com that they are selling HTC Shift,but I'm confused that their device just is 20GB hard disk,I noted the HTC Shift is 40GB hard disk from the HTC Website....Holy****! What's its exact version??
Wow...U awesome,men! I do hope u will work the phone call feature out in future. Cheers!
Brose
Shift is available in some stores
look here : http://www.cel.ro/pda-gps/pda-htc-shift-l/
price is 1210 EUR
HTC Shift
In fact HTC Shift is already in some countries. But they are kept with the distributors they are not allowed to pass it on to the shops yet. The reason is because they wanted other shops around the world to compete fairly, rather than speculate on it.
jamal_bao said:
look here : http://www.cel.ro/pda-gps/pda-htc-shift-l/
price is 1210 EUR
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I live in Bucharest.
Called them and........
What else could you expect.
Huib
P.s. From tomorrow staying a week in Holland. By God I hope I will find one there.
Sorry...
Sorry to say but haven't seen it here yet
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Sorry to say but haven't seen it here yet
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In Holland? Yes but Expansys talks about 5 days. maybe ,maybe.
Huib
HTC SHIFT
800MHz, 1GB, 40GB, Vista Business, EU Andere UMPC › Devices Ca. 4 Dagen €1.259,95
Just like all of us they have been very optimistic in their assumptions for a delivery date.
And time after time they delyed it...
But as you mentioned, we will see...
on expansys, the release has been push back once again, man.....i guess i will need to contact my HTC contact to find out when they are really going to release the Shift.
It's not that they are spoiled by unrealistic delivery date provided by expansys. They are actually lying every month by saying this thing is available now... from official PR! and since last october. I understand a company meeting a last minute problem before going on the production channel, but this announcment where done knowing the production was not going, as there is an estimated 2 weeks between the first unit produced and the actual delivery.
That or we have some kind of war going behind the scene between HTC and some other company.
great work ! they lying again! it's ok for me ...i buy an asus r2hv , i can't wait .....time is money , no? for htc maybe not. stupid company!
I can hardly believe that I too am falling into the trap of posting about HTC Shift availability. But here I go.
Clove technology www.clove.co.uk a company who have been trading since Psion days told me that my pre-order of the HTC Shift can now be executed and that first stock is due Tuesday march 04th 2008.
Well since I've waited about 1 year now since the CES display I figure I can wait a few more weeks and see what the reports from this forum will tell. Personally I feel that unless it shows all of good performance, full WM6, GPS, and usable data via SIM we might all be better off waiting for the HP2133 (see http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/19/hps-umpc-2133-revealed/ ) a product that is surely not going to be a year late.
Hey i found this on the internet, i don't know if it is true or not but the link states that the Shift is now for sale in the UK
http://www.umpcportal.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1230
Just got confirmation that my Shift was shipped (from Devicewire)
It's finally in stock
Dear All, i am glad to inform you all that the HTC Shift is finally in stock for order, looks like the wait is finally over. I am getting mine tomorrow, hope you all get yours soon !
Wellcome
Hesitating, Hesitating
danielherrero said:
Wellcome
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I am hesitating so much between the Shift and this, above mentioned Fujitsu p1620.
The short battery life. No entry in WM without a SIM card (not even WIFI?). No WM that can use the harddisk or SD slot.
The whole WM seems so useless now. I wanted it for long battery life.
Hardly any harddisk space left to bring my favorite films for looking at in the plane.
The P1620 on the other side may take another x months to wait for and is much, much more expensive. And SD cards to carry my films become bigger and cheaper.
My Bucharest dealer just sent me an interesting offer (4397 RON = aout 1170 Euro all in)
I could pick it up tomorrow!.
PLs help me with my decision.
I am a frequent flyer in the cattle class, so I NEED a small tool/toy. I NEED long battery last, but could buy two of course.
Huib
P.s. I think that I buy the Shift now and sell it on this forum cheaper if I go for the Fujitsu later. But still.......
HTC Shift In Stock
B"H
The Shift is now available in the USA, here:
www.onthegosolutions.com
Also, it can be shipped internationally, too.
I wasn't quite sure what you meant that it would take x months for the Fujitsu, the 1620 is available, and has been for a while I think. The U1010 is the one that hasn't launched yet.
If a lot of your use would be on the road, you have to think about battery power for sure. I think the HTC Shift has quite a few drawbacks, but I'm personally buying it because I have fallen for it, and I gotta have it :-D I hope there would be an extended battery eventually, but HTC's choice of battery pack and implementation is going to make it hard (I'm sure some third party manufacturers won't miss the chance and would come up with a new cover etc.) I have a 32GB USB and a 16GB SDHC, so hopefully with these two I could remedy some of the issues with low memory capacity on the Shift (I'd rather move the backup to a USB stick if that's possible, but should be).
herpi said:
I am hesitating so much between the Shift and this, above mentioned Fujitsu p1620.
The short battery life. No entry in WM without a SIM card (not even WIFI?). No WM that can use the harddisk or SD slot.
The whole WM seems so useless now. I wanted it for long battery life.
Hardly any harddisk space left to bring my favorite films for looking at in the plane.
The P1620 on the other side may take another x months to wait for and is much, much more expensive. And SD cards to carry my films become bigger and cheaper.
My Bucharest dealer just sent me an interesting offer (4397 RON = aout 1170 Euro all in)
I could pick it up tomorrow!.
PLs help me with my decision.
I am a frequent flyer in the cattle class, so I NEED a small tool/toy. I NEED long battery last, but could buy two of course.
Huib
P.s. I think that I buy the Shift now and sell it on this forum cheaper if I go for the Fujitsu later. But still.......
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got my insurance £, what now?

hey,
so i lost my touch hd2 finally got over it. my insurance company is going to give me the value of the phone £499.99 according to play.com
my question is should i wait for another phone? or get another hd2. i loved the hd2, obviously somethings werent perfect but hey every phone is like that.
are there any upcoming phones that look exciting? saw the nexus one, but its kinda ugly !
i saw someone posted the US version has higher specs and im going to california mid feb, as long as its unlocked i could get this.
thanks!
Personally I would grab another HD2, but if I were you I'd wait until Microsoft announce whatever they are going to announce at Mobile World Conference on the 15th. Then make a more informed purchase
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hey,
so i lost my touch hd2 finally got over it. my insurance company is going to give me the value of the phone £499.99 according to play.com
my question is should i wait for another phone? or get another hd2. i loved the hd2, obviously somethings werent perfect but hey every phone is like that.
are there any upcoming phones that look exciting? saw the nexus one, but its kinda ugly !
i saw someone posted the US version has higher specs and im going to california mid feb, as long as its unlocked i could get this.
thanks!
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If you loved the HD2, get another one You can always wait longer and longer adn perhaps something sweet will be announced soon. But then you'll have to wait some more weeks or months before it's actually released.
Wouldn't get the t-mobile usa version though since it's specifically made for them, using different bands then in europe so it's prolly useless here (for making calls and such at least )
p4rma said:
i saw someone posted the US version has higher specs and im going to california mid feb, as long as its unlocked i could get this.
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The HD2b has not had a release date. It's been rumoured to be some time in spring, so you've got quite a wait if you want that. Besides, you won't get 3G with it as it's specifically for TMO US. Basically, forget about that phone. The extra RAMAROM isn't really that big a deal anyway.
Get another HD2
Nothing special here at the moment I'm afraid...
http://www.gadgetell.com/tech/comment/eight-new-phones-in-htc-product-roadmap-for-2010/
Towserspvm2000 said:
Nothing special here at the moment I'm afraid...
http://www.gadgetell.com/tech/comment/eight-new-phones-in-htc-product-roadmap-for-2010/
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I do like the looks of the photon...!
Buy another HD2 for £403.50 from Amazon and keep the £95.50 towards a deposit when there really is a phone worth upgrading from the HD2 for. At the moment there isn't a great deal of choice, but in 6-12 months who knows what might be available?
With the latest official ROM, the HD2 really is a very good smartphone.
omneity said:
Buy another HD2 for £403.50 from Amazon and keep the £95.50 towards a deposit when there really is a phone worth upgrading from the HD2 for. At the moment there isn't a great deal of choice, but in 6-12 months who knows what might be available?
With the latest official ROM, the HD2 really is a very good smartphone.
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Thanks for the link dude and also thanks for the help guys!

Looks like you can now buy the DVP in the UK

Expansys seem to have the DVP on sale. Their expected shipment is 1 working day and they now take Paypal payments, which they do only when they have stock.
http://www.expansys.com/dell-venue-pro-windows-phone-7-smartphone-qwerty-205052/
That's weird, when I spoke to a Dell customer service guy he said they weren't going to sell it unlocked first. Should've known that he didn't know what he was talkin' about.
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Expansys seem to have the DVP on sale. Their expected shipment is 1 working day and they now take Paypal payments, which they do only when they have stock.
http://www.expansys.com/dell-venue-pro-windows-phone-7-smartphone-qwerty-205052/
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it says estimated 1 day. they have not got stock and i doubt they will have stock tomorrow as dells own uk site does not list it.
ps. when i pre-ordered one from them in November they tock my money straight away and when i phoned them up about it they say it was a mistak and i had to wait 10 days to get my money back.
im going to wait till play.com or dell.co.uk have they in stock at i dont trust expansys ot clove.
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it says estimated 1 day. they have not got stock and i doubt they will have stock tomorrow as dells own uk site does not list it.
ps. when i pre-ordered one from them in November they tock my money straight away and when i phoned them up about it they say it was a mistak and i had to wait 10 days to get my money back.
im going to wait till play.com or dell.co.uk have they in stock at i dont trust expansys ot clove.
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In November I wanted to preorder and pay via Paypal and their rep told me the Paypal option wasn't for preoders and would only appear when they actually had stock. So maybe you can actually buy from them now... To be fair I was fed up and got the Omnia 7 but that could be of interest to some people.
Oh by the way, the last time I spoke to Dell UK they had no plans for selling the phone themselves.
Clove says mid-February
This phone's launch has really been a joke, they're launching it in the middle of MWC when it might get obsolete.
http://www.clove.co.uk/dell-venue-pro
I had emailed Clove only three days ago to ask when the phone was in stock and they said it was expected early this week. The situation is a complete farce.
Surprised you guys are still looking to get this phone considering all the issues and that you can get other devices in the UK that can be unlocked for any carrier.
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Clove says mid-February
This phone's launch has really been a joke, they're launching it in the middle of MWC when it might get obsolete.
http://www.clove.co.uk/dell-venue-pro
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clove said the 6th january and then changed it to week starting the 10th. the reason they do these dates is so you pre-order from them thinking you are going to get it earlier then if you do it with other sites but once you pre-order they tell you there is a delay and hope you dont cancel (clove had it on the 6th when every over site had the 11th).
exspansy tock my money from my debit card, i did not try the paypal option.
tomorrow is the 11th and play.com and exspansy should say in stock but bet they wont and then will delay it again.
as far as dell.co.uk selling it. i was under the assumtion that dell sells all there products from their website and would sell the DVP too like they have been selling the streak. i prefer to buy from play.com but they only listing the 8gb and i wont the 16gb model.
tomorrow i will see if any of them have it but at this rate i may have to look at getting another phone. with the mobile show in early feb there probably be a load of new handsets.
UPDATE: clove and exspansy have delayed it till mid feb. i guess i will have to see if any new handsets get released at the mobile show that takes my fancy, if not it will be arround mid feb by that point anyway.
i reckon they are waiting for the os update which will fix a lot of the current issues (crashes etc).
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Surprised you guys are still looking to get this phone considering all the issues and that you can get other devices in the UK that can be unlocked for any carrier.
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i always get my phone sim free so i can get any handset but the hd7 and omina 7 i have seen and tried and i dont like the designs.
Given what's been happenning to our friends in the US I won't be rushing to get it !
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...i reckon they are waiting for the os update which will fix a lot of the current issues (crashes etc).
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The O/S is rock stable ... either that or Samsung have worked miracles! My Omnia 7 has crashed twice since i purchased it and I got it on release day. (To be fair, the ONLY thing that has crashed on it has been the marketplace app)
Its far more likely that Dell have screwed up the firmware or chip/mobo integration somehow.
Either way, i'm now out of the market for one of these. Sadly, its the only 4"+ device with a keyboard.... who nows.... maybe Feb will cure my problem?
Clove has been told today there will be no stock until 'mid february at the earliest' for 'microsoft issue on mms settings'. Given every other manufacturer has phones in europe with working mms capability, I cannot see how only dell needs an one month worth wp7 fix. Assume they have multiple issues and don't have a clue about when they will be able to fix them all.
Now, I'm not sure who, between me still waiting for this phone and Dell, needs more urgently a reality check.
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i always get my phone sim free so i can get any handset but the hd7 and omina 7 i have seen and tried and i dont like the designs.
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To be fair, once you start using one daily you just see it as a Windows Phone and forget a bit about the design. Sure the DVP has something special but unless you really need a keyboard you can do worse than the HD7 and Omnia 7.
What I will probably miss the most about the DVP is the Gorilla Glass but I'm more than happy with the Omnia 7.
goodbye dell
it has been a nice time waiting for u to fix those issues but i guess enough is enough
crawling back to htc via the 7 pro
I think Expansys and Clove literally just pull these release dates out of thin air (in the same way that Amazon and Play basically invent release dates for some videogames and dvds, etc., even when they haven't been announced yet). They're clearly not in any sort of serious contact with Dell if, only one day before the phones are due to go on sale, they 'find out' that their delivery isn't going to arrive.
I too am going to have to consider the HTC Pro 7 now, much as I don't want to buy another HTC phone. Sigh...
Peew971 said:
To be fair, once you start using one daily you just see it as a Windows Phone and forget a bit about the design. Sure the DVP has something special but unless you really need a keyboard you can do worse than the HD7 and Omnia 7.
What I will probably miss the most about the DVP is the Gorilla Glass but I'm more than happy with the Omnia 7.
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i heard somewhere that the omnia 7 does not gorilla glass but it is not listed. not sure if this is true.
im going to wait till the mobile show in feb and then decide which phone to get.
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The O/S is rock stable ... either that or Samsung have worked miracles! My Omnia 7 has crashed twice since i purchased it and I got it on release day. (To be fair, the ONLY thing that has crashed on it has been the marketplace app)
Its far more likely that Dell have screwed up the firmware or chip/mobo integration somehow.
Either way, i'm now out of the market for one of these. Sadly, its the only 4"+ device with a keyboard.... who nows.... maybe Feb will cure my problem?
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i have a feeling that the way dell has set up the dvp is slightly different than how overs have done and as they are very close to microsoft i this microsoft was fix some things that did not work with the way they made the handset.
i could be wrong but seems strange that the release has been put back to mid feb when the os update is to be released.
I'm stil waiting. Mabye its better to solve the problems. Or els the DVP is going to be a new iphone . But what about the OS update how as Microshoft annouced for april? New languages? Like dutch. We wil see
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/dell-venue-pro-delayed-in-the-uk-again-due-to-mms
Delayed again till mid-February, what a joke.
I am also waiting for this to happen so Dell can finally feel comfortable in providing an unlock code.

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