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HTC HD2 - Pre-Order or Wait?

As the title says, What would you do? Pre-Order expecting stock to be non existant when actually released? or wait for o2 to give away their hand?
I am on o2 don't want to move to another service provider, definatly want the phone as soon as its out or as near as. My contract isn't due till july
I do have some cash that I can use to buy but not ideal (the gaffa will kill me).
Paying off my existing contract will be cheaper than buying the HD2 but then I won't be able to upgrade for 18months.
or buy the phone and in less than 9 months I can get another one and sell it.
I just don't know. Do I think about things too much? LOL
Either way I will have my HD for sale as soon as I get the HD2! Whats a fair price?

Personally I'd wait. There's always problems when a new thing comes out, whether it's not enough stock to go around (remember all the stuff with the HD from mobiles.co.uk this time last year?) or technical problems that need ironing out. It's usually best to let all the hooha die down and let everyone else put up with and solve all the issues

I know what you mean, I got my HD from mobiles.co.uk but didn't experience any problems, process was smooth and got the phone really quick.
Also just found the HD2 for £499 which is much cheaper than most other places. God its so hard not to click buy buy buy!!

Oh dear my finger slipped. Got it for £494.95 + Delivery.
Anyone want a Mint HD?

Where is it that price please?

evilskanker said:
Where is it that price please?
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MobileFun £499 with this Promotional Code "MFAWOCT9" Job Done!!!
Just a waiting game now!! I am so impulsive!! LOL

Thanks, might join the 'impulsive buyers union', although the seeming lack of a front camera on the HD2 is a potential stumbling block for me...

Cheers for the heads-up Richard.
I'm currently on a monthly SIM only contract with O2, and spoke to them yesterday about upgrading when they get the phone. I was strongly considering doing that, but I reckon I'll pay mobilefun a visit and then sell my HD to make back half the cost.
Nice - thanks
Edit: Ooooh - just noticed the release date of 11/11/09. O2 is looking appealing again!

Also on sim only with o2 at the moment - they seemingly don't let you upgrade until you've been on sim only for 6 months though for some reason, so I think if I want it before February (when I'll have been with them for 6 months) I will need to buy it, and stick on the cheap sim only deal.
Oh, and does anyone know when mobilefun charge your card - on order or on dispatch? Thanks!

johncmolyneux said:
Cheers for the heads-up Richard.
I'm currently on a monthly SIM only contract with O2, and spoke to them yesterday about upgrading when they get the phone. I was strongly considering doing that, but I reckon I'll pay mobilefun a visit and then sell my HD to make back half the cost.
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Your welcome, Thats exactly my plan now. I think you can upgrade 3 months early on o2 18 month contracts too so in april I can get another and sell it. Then the original HD2 won't of cost me a bean. If all goes to plan that is. LOL

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Thanks, might join the 'impulsive buyers union', although the seeming lack of a front camera on the HD2 is a potential stumbling block for me...
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I am a little dissapointed they give new hardware and take some other hardware away from us at the same time but I think they have realised that Video calling just hasn't taken off so they probably don't see the point of having a front camera.
I can count on 1 hand how many times I have used it since having a Diamond and my HD.
My girlfriend might see it differently as she uses the front camera as a mirror sometimes! lol

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Also on sim only with o2 at the moment - they seemingly don't let you upgrade until you've been on sim only for 6 months though for some reason
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skank - ask them to put you through to cancellations and ask them the same question. Yesterday, the CS girl I spoke to told me exactly the same thing as you, but put me through to cancellations because I had a query about cancelling my contract and when it would take effect. The girl in cancellations checked and said that they can do 2 types of credit check. One of them means you can't upgrade within the first 6 months, but the other means you can upgrade whenever you want. She said since they'd done a full credit check on me when I joined, I could upgrade immediately, so I'll probably go for that IN 10 DAYS TIME!!!! when the phone is supposed to become available.
It sounded like the CS staff don't really have the full picture, but the cancellations staff know a bit more. They were really helpful.
Good luck!

Thanks John. I did go to cancellations when I called but the guy seemed a bit dopey. Might call back. He was saying it might depend on whether or not I was with o2 before I went sim only, which I wasn't.

Same here - I was with Orange until they did that whole price change blunder. I was one of the lucky ones who got out of the contract and immediately moved to a virgin sim only deal. The coverage was sooooooo bad that I moved to O2. I've only been with them a week and they were more than happy to upgrade me.
Maybe you're right - call back and cross your fingers that you get someone a bit more clued up. I really should have asked the girl I spoke to for her name as I expect the next person I speak to will say "No. Can't upgrade you." and I'll then be outside the 14 day cancellation period.

I just thought i'd post this up, a reply I just got from o2 regarding the HD2. Doesn't really bother me now I have pre-ordered but some of you may be interested.
Good afternoon Richard
Thanks for emailing us about your phone query. I understand that you're interested in buying an HTC HD2 and want to know when it'd be available with us. Let me quickly look into this matter.
Richard, you'll be excited to know that this fantastic phone will soon be available with us. However, I'm unable to comment on when this phone will be launched as it's due to be released in the future. As soon as its available with us, it'll be immediately updated on our website.

Cheers Richard.
The girl I spoke to said that O2 has a release date of 19/10/09, but it's not official yet, as they're still "going through checks". That date can be put back. Basically, they'll put it on the website as soon as they have a definite and confirmed release date.
Need now to figure out how to sleep for a week and a half without starving or getting sacked, just to make the day come quicker! lol

Just called o2 and they said definitely no upgrade before 6 months, for anyone. You might want to call and check john!
I know you can't get a PAC and use it on the same network, but is it possible to go from o2 simplicity - orange PAYG - o2 contract with HD2?
Surely it is...

johncmolyneux said:
Cheers Richard.
The girl I spoke to said that O2 has a release date of 19/10/09, but it's not official yet, as they're still "going through checks". That date can be put back. Basically, they'll put it on the website as soon as they have a definite and confirmed release date.
Need now to figure out how to sleep for a week and a half without starving or getting sacked, just to make the day come quicker! lol
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Yeah, wish we could hibernate!! Your like me, Hate waiting for new tech!! LOL

evilskanker said:
Just called o2 and they said definitely no upgrade before 6 months, for anyone. You might want to call and check john!
I know you can't get a PAC and use it on the same network, but is it possible to go from o2 simplicity - orange PAYG - o2 contract with HD2?
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Well I hope to have more luck than you're having. The girl I spoke to said I didn't even need to go via the PAYG route to keep my number. I was considering a 14 day cancellation, then an O2 PAYG, then an O2 contract.
Guess we'll just have to wait and see. If I get anyone helpful again, I'll make sure to get their name (and possibly number), and pass it on to you.

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Well I hope to have more luck than you're having. The girl I spoke to said I didn't even need to go via the PAYG route to keep my number. I was considering a 14 day cancellation, then an O2 PAYG, then an O2 contract.
Guess we'll just have to wait and see. If I get anyone helpful again, I'll make sure to get their name (and possibly number), and pass it on to you.
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Thanks John. Good luck, and if you could let me know that would be great.

G1 died today.....what phone to get

So ya i was hoping my G1 would survive till an android phone with the 1ghz cpu was released to t-mobile in store, but it didn't make it. Unfortunately i cant get the Nexus in the t-mobile store, which i think was a terrible idea on google's side, but whatever. What other android phone you guys think would be a great device to have?
got the wife a Behold 2, and its AWESOME.....after i rooted it and put a custom rom on it. The mytouch is ok. reminds me a lot of the G1. Ill never buy a motorola product ever again.......does anyone know of any other android devices coming out for t-mobile anytime soon?
thanks a ton for the time!
cheers!

The HD2? It's Winmo but these clever minds here on XDA will soon put Android on it, I'm pretty sure.

I felt the MT3G is a vast difference from G1, and you can check out the 1.2 version as well.

mygti02 said:
So ya i was hoping my G1 would survive till an android phone with the 1ghz cpu was released to t-mobile in store, but it didn't make it. Unfortunately i cant get the Nexus in the t-mobile store, which i think was a terrible idea on google's side, but whatever. What other android phone you guys think would be a great device to have?
got the wife a Behold 2, and its AWESOME.....after i rooted it and put a custom rom on it. The mytouch is ok. reminds me a lot of the G1. Ill never buy a motorola product ever again.......does anyone know of any other android devices coming out for t-mobile anytime soon?
thanks a ton for the time!
cheers!
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It sounds like we may be in similar situations, this is what I am thinking:
Im wondering the same thing. i have a mytouch, and wife now needs a new phone. Not getting the nexus bc of the family plan we have, and not gonna spend $500 on it.
Since it does not look like tmobile is coming out with any new (nexus like performance) phones really soon, this is what I think we are going to do, maybe good for you too:
I think we are going to find a mytouch on craigslist (like mine). hopefully for around $150. root it so that it runs good, and wait for tmobile to come out with something good, then use upgrade to get discount on new phone. Then sell the mytouch (purchased from craigslist) on ebay for about the same, if not more...
sounds like we are in the similar situations, so figured i would share about the only option I can see would be good. What do you think? good luck

mygti02 said:
Unfortunately i cant get the Nexus in the t-mobile store, which i think was a terrible idea on google's side, but whatever.
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No, it was a very good idea. T-Mobile would lock it down and not let it be used on any other carrier, without unlocking. I'm sure you know that a large portion (probably around 60 - 70%, if not, more) of all cell phone users have never even HEARD of unlocking. Not being on just one carrier = more buyers. More buyers = more money.

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No, it was a very good idea. T-Mobile would lock it down and not let it be used on any other carrier, without unlocking. I'm sure you know that a large portion (probably around 60 - 70%, if not, more) of all cell phone users have never even HEARD of unlocking. Not being on just one carrier = more buyers. More buyers = more money.
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Yeah, except that makes no sense at all when Nexus One is coming in AT&T and Sprint flavors as well.

cigar3tte said:
Yeah, except that makes no sense at all when Nexus One is coming in AT&T and Sprint flavors as well.
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Aside from the CDMA junk, both GSM versions are happy to work on other networks, not just the one whose 3G band is compatible.
I.e., the tmobile3G version is compatible with ATT2G, and the ATT3G version is compatible with tmobile2G. They are both compatible with INTERNATIONAL2G and some 3G.
Further, if you decide to go to.... europe, or wherever, with an unlocked phone, you can buy a LOCAL SIMCARD and it will work IFF your phone is unlocked.
But there is MORE TO BEING UNLOCKED than just sim-unlocked. There is also FIRMWARE unlocked, and with GN1, it is TRIVIAL -- "fastboot oem unlock" is the command. This allows you to load CUSTOM FIRMWARE to the device.... which is not possible with a carrier-branded device.
If you like the phone, buy it from google. They are a very reputable seller.
Expect this in the future though: as 2G dies away, you will start to see 3G-only devices with full 6-band 3G radios -- 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100. These devices, when they appear, will be universal.

Is T-Mobile not releasing the Desire in the US?

cigar3tte said:
Yeah, except that makes no sense at all when Nexus One is coming in AT&T and Sprint flavors as well.
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Did you bother to even read wtf you quoted? That's one of the most pathetic responses I've ever had the pain of reading.
Unless I misunderstood what you're trying to say. As of now... That's exactly what I said. They make more money like that instead of it just being T-Mobile. Or are they about to start putting out a different phone better than N1?

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Is T-Mobile not releasing the Desire in the US?
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No, the Desire is going to be exclusive to Verizon in the US, thus cannot be used on T-Mobile because it is CDMA.

HD2
Heck yeah the HD2 is awsome, even though its not android. Like somebody above said people here at XDA will find a way to put android on it. That HUGE screen is amazing.

If you ask T-Mobile they are sure to say that one of their "lovely" blur devices is what you want, kindly kick their shin and spit on them if they do

and then Toot and, oh, I apologize, TWEET and inform us what phone you got on your way to jail.

mZimm said:
No, the Desire is going to be exclusive to Verizon in the US, thus cannot be used on T-Mobile because it is CDMA.
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JUST FYI, NO U.S.A carriers has been announced for the Desire or Legend and since HTC wants this to be their "super phone" it will most likely be GSM since it will be world compatible (on edge anyway) You are probably thinking about the HTC Incredible (A completely different phone)
Any way I would go with the HTC HD2 since it is a great device and there will be an android rom for it one day and when a great android phone comes out for t-mobile just sell the HTC HD2 (someone will buy it on XDA, you should get around $300 for it if you take care of it)

Get the DROID! It didnt sell over 1 million units in 74 days for nothing. i know you dont like Moto

brettf said:
Get the DROID! It didnt sell over 1 million units in 74 days for nothing. i know you dont like Moto
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moto isn't a good company. They been saying for a few months that the droid will get the 2.1 update in a week but it has been pushed back a lot of times. They finally pushed the update but to the milestone (droid's name for other countries) so now the droid users are pissed.
I would only choose moto for an android phone as a last resort because HTC is the brand for me.

WOW! The HTC Legend looks amazing!!
See pictures and review here: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-legend-675421/review

There is also an excellent review for the HTC HD2 on the same website.
For the mouse challenged it's here : http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-hd2-647049/review

legend221 said:
There is also an excellent review for the HTC HD2 on the same website.
For the mouse challenged it's here : http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-hd2-647049/review
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I thought the supersonic/EVO was the android version of HD2.

only thing I like about the HD2 is how big the screen is...yet so thin like a razor, but I'd much rather wait...even if the devs dished out a android rom for it tonight, I don't want to waste my upgrade on a WMO phone regardless of it's value or capability...simply because I'm stubborn
As far as the Desire goes, I believe it will be coming to T-mobile and if not, more likely a universal unlocked release like the N1...but as far as the Verizon only rumor, bullsh*t. HTC would never let me down like Moto did with the Droid
I have had up close experience with the N1, (friend of mines owns it), lovely phone, simply the best Android has to offer right now until proven otherwise by a later release, but I'm not going for it
If I'm going dish $500 bucks or more for something it will most def. be the Desire...because that is what I desire

4 days hopefully

Seriously who can wait..its usually times like these where i start to change my mind

I Plan to wait

dkwelton said:
Seriously who can wait..its usually times like these where i start to change my mind
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DONT change your mind i have had some phones in my time and this blows them all away

i've also been waiting patiently.. so tempted to get either a N1 or desire... but i know I want a bigger screen having used HD2 till recently, don't think I could go back to anything less than 4"..
btw, when it's released in US will it be available at other places around the world? os is 14~15th the release date for US only?
I am hoping I could grab it for cheaper than what it is now from UK or something..

bumskee said:
i've also been waiting patiently.. so tempted to get either a N1 or desire... but i know I want a bigger screen having used HD2 till recently, don't think I could go back to anything less than 4"..
btw, when it's released in US will it be available at other places around the world? os is 14~15th the release date for US only?
I am hoping I could grab it for cheaper than what it is now from UK or something..
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I did read France are having about the same time as the us,I'm sure it wont be long before its all over the place

ordered mine yesterday from Dell UK got fone call from dell today confirming the order and say the carrier will fone me about delivery.
bit over the top really normally u just buy something online and they deliver it whenever
still LOOKING FORWARD to it , my birthday next monday and work bonus on Thursday

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I did read France are having about the same time as the us,I'm sure it wont be long before its all over the place
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Great, that's fantastic news..
reckon it will be $500 USD around the world? UK prices are a little bit more than that at the moment..
doesn't dell streak support 850 as well as 900? so no need for two variations right? wonder why it's taking so long for them to release globally..
this is slightly off, but does anyone know if DELL have international warranty??? clearly I will be buying from US or europe but will be using in ASIA and Australia.. wonder if they have any policies regarding international warranty..
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bit over the top really normally u just buy something online and they deliver it whenever
still LOOKING FORWARD to it , my birthday next monday and work bonus on Thursday
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well I guess it's better than not hearing for ever..
do let us know how it goes!!! I am so looking forward to dell streak..

bumskee said:
well I guess it's better than not hearing for ever..
do let us know how it goes!!! I am so looking forward to dell streak..
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Been told to expect delivery on or before the 19th july so approx 8 days

Your unwanted dvp...

Anyone has a dvp they dont need anymore? I've been looking to buy one since quite some time.. Asking here coz no one seems to be having it in the market place...
Honestly, i have no idea what this device is worth now, but not looking to spend a lot..
Thanks...
P.S- can take it shipped or personal pick up in new york city..

no one willing to part with one??

I am currently situated in the UK, how much are you willing to pay?

dilzo said:
I am currently situated in the UK, how much are you willing to pay?
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no idea how much it goes for.
so I'd refrain from quoting a price- fearing it might not interest u....
u have any price in mind? shipped London?

alokated said:
no idea how much it goes for.
so I'd refrain from quoting a price- fearing it might not interest u....
u have any price in mind? shipped London?
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Hmm about £200 also it's almost brand new as I got one from warranty about 3 weeks ago and it also has a spare otter box aswell.
Sent from my GT-I5800 using XDA App

Dell has dumped their inventory of AT&T DVP on TechSoup org and they are going for $31 each till there gone. They come with the SIM unlock code.
If you know someone who works for a non-profit in the US you can get one through them. Up to 20 can be ordered by each organization.
Sorry, can't post links yet. Just google TechSoup then type in Dell Venue Pro in the search box on their web page.

Guys not lying. Anyone work for a non-profit organization ?
http://forums.techsoup.org/cs/commu...artphones-from-dell.aspx?pageindex=1#comments

that's awesome!!!!
anyone here knows a way to do this???

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that's awesome!!!!
anyone here knows a way to do this???
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I have the same question.
I'm ready to pay person, who will help me with purchase.

SirRudolph said:
Guys not lying. Anyone work for a non-profit organization ?
http://forums.techsoup.org/cs/commu...artphones-from-dell.aspx?pageindex=1#comments
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anyone has any idea about this??
or anyone else wanna sell their dvp?

no one wants to sell their dvp???

I have one to sell, but it's a little beat up and has some significant AMOLED dimming. I think I'll take my chances on ebay. Even though you can get a decent 32GB MicroSDHC card for about $15, the a 32GB version of this phone sells for significantly more than a 8GB version.
A little while ago Secondipity's ebay store had 8GB models accepting best offer submissions of $100. That's the best deal I've seen. Even at that price, it took them a couple weeks to sell out. Now prices are higher. They were the T-Mobile version, but as I've read on the forum, it's just the same hardware flashed with different ROMs.
Either way, you may want to hold off buying anything until you hear what Microsoft has to say at the Windows Phone 8 announcement scheduled for June 20th.

Technosquid said:
I have one to sell, but it's a little beat up and has some significant AMOLED dimming. I think I'll take my chances on ebay. Even though you can get a decent 32GB MicroSDHC card for about $15, the a 32GB version of this phone sells for significantly more than a 8GB version.
A little while ago Secondipity's ebay store had 8GB models accepting best offer submissions of $100. That's the best deal I've seen. Even at that price, it took them a couple weeks to sell out. Now prices are higher. They were the T-Mobile version, but as I've read on the forum, it's just the same hardware flashed with different ROMs.
Either way, you may want to hold off buying anything until you hear what Microsoft has to say at the Windows Phone 8 announcement scheduled for June 20th.
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u have any price for yours??
I'm trying to see if I can find someone who might get the 31$ ones

Sorry sold my VP to CeX for £114 and bought an S3 the phone was nearing the end of it's life and, if dell were reluctant to fix a small issue with the compass then, I highly doubt they'll send out an upgrade for the discountinued phone. Bye WP7 and I'll only come back when I'm bored of android. Ciao.

I personally bought the DVP from this seller. ACTUALLY, he is like a half mile away from my home! HAHA. If you order from him, I can make sure he sends you a good working DVP. I am actually helping him unlock some other phones he has and removing some demo software on some Samsung Focus and HTC HD7 phones. He has a few DVP that are kinda messed up and 2 or 3 in pretty good condition. check it out. Look at his other auctions.
crap i cant post links. Go to ebay and search this item# 221020643141

i got a nice one, no scratches at all, pretty mint, picked it up in January of this year
$150.

no sub 100$ dvp??

Ended up selling my extra one for about $150. Prices were lower last month when an liquidator was trying to move some stock. Prices may go down again with today's announcement that WP7 handsets will not be updated to WP8.

anybody???

a bump!!!!

So looks like it's finally official. HTC One coming to Verizon later this summer.

Who is going to make the jump?
I have been on the Incredible for just over 3 years now and ready to make the jump. It has been a great ride but this seems like the perfect time and phone to make the switch.
Anyone else?

I should be getting One (see what I did there?). Hopefully they don't disable HTCdev, which is doubtful they won't based on past devices. That, or S-OFF tricks will still work. And hopefully they'll get a Google edition.
But there's still time for the next Nexus to be announced. So I'll end up getting one of the two.

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I should be getting One (see what I did there?). Hopefully they don't disable HTCdev, which is doubtful they won't based on past devices. That, or S-OFF tricks will still work. And hopefully they'll get a Google edition.
But there's still time for the next Nexus to be announced. So I'll end up getting one of the two.
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This is what I have been waiting on... a friend is supposedly going to hand me (yep.. free) his GS3.. which of course I'll root and put AOSP on... then I will purchase the One (off contract of course.. they are going to pry that unlimited data from my cold dead hands) once I see that the Verizon version has been rooted.. unlocked.. and has some good roms going on.
At which point I'll pass the GS3 onto someone who needs it (who has already claimed it.. before I even have it!)

Yea I hope this new version for Verizon gets rooted soon but that still not going to have me hold out at launch. BTW I am in the same boat as you, buying off contract so I can keep unlimited data.
Do you know where I will be able to purchase (when the time comes) the phone from? Just use Amazon or Best Buy? They will sell the phone on it's own right?

Hand76 said:
Yea I hope this new version for Verizon gets rooted soon but that still not going to have me hold out at launch. BTW I am in the same boat as you, buying off contract so I can keep unlimited data.
Do you know where I will be able to purchase (when the time comes) the phone from? Just use Amazon or Best Buy? They will sell the phone on it's own right?
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You should be able to buy it from anyone outright. Though you won't really get a deal from anyone that way.. so may as well do it from Verizon directly.

HTC One shipping August 22nd. FINALLY.
Going to wait like a week make sure others can unlock and get it rooted and will probably be making the switch.

Hand76 said:
HTC One shipping August 22nd. FINALLY.
Going to wait like a week make sure others can unlock and get it rooted and will probably be making the switch.
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I'm still looking at end of Sept. I waited this long.. and knowing new things are coming out (moto x, etc) at this point I want to see the competition.

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I'm still looking at end of Sept. I waited this long.. and knowing new things are coming out (moto x, etc) at this point I want to see the competition.
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I think the only other things to consider are the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and the LG G2.

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I think the only other things to consider are the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and the LG G2.
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And Key Lime Pie (I know its a pipe dream to think it will be announced by end of Sept)...
Would love to know the optimal specs for it before investing in a phone. Especially one that is already 4-6 months old before Verizon even sold it.