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Stock up on those 3G handsets, folks -- they could become very valuable commodities here in the next few weeks. As part of an ongoing series of spats between wireless giants Qualcomm and Broadcom, the US International Trade Commission has ruled that handsets containing Qualcomm 3G chipsets (and that's a whole heck of a lot of handsets) that are manufactured starting today may not be imported into the US. By all accounts, this appears to be much more than legal posturing on Broadcomm's part -- a ban is a ban -- and we've gotta believe this'll resolve itself right quick. But if for whatever reason it doesn't, get ready for an eBay free-for-all in a gloomy, scorched-earth future where the only high speed handsets are pawned for thousands of New Dollars on the black market.
WASHINGTON -- The U.S. International Trade Commission on Thursday imposed a partial ban on the imports of third-generation, or 3G, cellular phones using Qualcomm Inc.'s microchips in a ruling over a patent dispute between the company and rival Broadcom Corp.
The decision means that major handset makers using Qualcomm's microchips in their 3G phones will not be able to import new models into the U.S. after June 7. New phones that are of the same model as those manufactured before June 7 will still be allowed into the country.
.... wait... if they ban Qualcomm 3G, then we'd have NO new 3G handsets ever. How would the US band that? Does Broadcom make CMDA/WCDMA chips as well?
For the love of god, banned.
If you do some research on it, it comes down to BS if you ask me. What this means is that yes no NEW phone models can be shipped into the USA but phone that where built before june 7th can still be shipped so for ****s sake i hope this does not **** up me getting my kiaser!!!
staulkor said:
For the love of god, banned.
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thank you... was driving me nuts
austinsnyc said:
If you do some research on it, it comes down to BS if you ask me. What this means is that yes no NEW phone models can be shipped into the USA but phone that where built before june 7th can still be shipped so for ****s sake i hope this does not **** up me getting my kiaser!!!
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ditto on the kaiser.. that was next on my list...
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If you do some research on it, it comes down to BS if you ask me. What this means is that yes no NEW phone models can be shipped into the USA but phone that where built before june 7th can still be shipped so for ****s sake i hope this does not **** up me getting my kiaser!!!
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is it devices built before june 7th or devices that are already on the market before june 7th?
I think it means devices that are already on the market, not just stock which has already been built.
I'm not sure how much this will hurt qualcomm, but it's more likely to hurt broadcom with less users available.
European wireless use is growing fast and hugely more so in the ASEAN nations so I think that if this ban continues then we'll see some developments that you guys just have to watch enviously. Good for us but bad for you
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is it devices built before june 7th or devices that are already on the market before june 7th?
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For the love of god, ASIAN !
For the love of god...
Association of South East Asian Nations - Google is YOUR friend - I already know what I'm talking about
dmj1973 said:
For the love of god, ASIAN !
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For the love of god... This just too funny!
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For the love of god...
Association of South East Asian Nations - Google is YOUR friend - I already know what I'm talking about
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This will probably hit Qualcomms shares more than anything. You'll find the presure of handset companies on Qualcomm will ensure this issue is resolved ASAP.
There are loads of other chipset suppliers for GSM/GPRS/WCDMA/HSPA radios and baseband. TTPCom, TI, NI, Broadcom, ADI, Phillips etc all have some market share but nowhere near as much as Qualcomm.
Gav.
Not fair!
"HTC made a confirmation on their Twitter page that there are no plans to bring a 3G Touch HD to the US. "
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/7689.html
Those filthy mothers! I goddamn It!!! its because they hate us! And now I hate them... But i will still buy there products. Ok so i'm hypocrite but Its the lesser of the 2 evils (apple) The HD would cripple there competition.
{Bitter as ****!}
It'll happen eventually, I'm calling BS on them turning down a giant US market with an iPhone killer in their hands.
http://twitter.com/htc
Is where they say that there is no plans to release the HD on US soil.
And the final nail in the coffin: http://twitter.com/htc/statuses/948774282
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And the final nail in the coffin: http://twitter.com/htc/statuses/948774282
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Wow... I'm shocked. This phone that half the forum was ready to jump on, the iPhone killer, best PPC phone made to date as some have called it... And they don't bring it to the US. I'm still skeptical, I think they may change their minds.
Well, they did get FCC approval for the EU version that doesn't support US 3G frequencies, so who knows...
does someone wanna let me live in europe with them?
ill ask my aunt.
I don't use usa 3G anyhow, since t-mobile only recently got it going with the Android. So, I'll happily use EDGE with this masterpiece when I get the pre-ordered unlocked european version!
Someday there will be a usa 3G version, but most likely for the at&t bandwidth....
that's wack i think they are missing out on a very big market i don't see why it can't be relased in the States this is probably the best competitor to the Iphone
Maybe they realized they need to stop being retards with pressure sensitive screens and they'll bring one to us in the US with a capacitive screen.
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Maybe they realized they need to stop being retards with pressure sensitive screens and they'll bring one to us in the US with a capacitive screen.
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Well, we're getting there with the Diamond and Raphael having capacitive button areas. Now if they'd just do it for the entire screen, that would be something else. Not sure how WinMo 6 would handle it, though. Maybe we have to wait for 7 to see that functionality... I hope they mention something about it at the PDC. Can't wait to go there
This is terrible news I suppose HTC decided it wouldn't be worth producing a US version of the phone as sales wouldn't generate enough revenue. I guess they don't think they can compete with Apple's marketing power/magic/overhyped iPhone
I am very disappointed, I actually feel lost and confused. This was the phone I was going to ditch my iphone for. I could always get the Fuze now but was so disappointed with my Diamond I just don't see how the Fuze will live up to my expectations.
Maybe the X1 or Omnia will be my next phone.
From wmpoweruser.com, find below 3 speculations on why HTC may have decided to do this:
1) AT&T demanded that the HD stay out of USA, to prevent any competition with the iPhone 3G. In return they would carry the much delayed AT&T Fuze. This is supported by the absense of the HTC Touch Diamond on AT&T, indicating they do not welcome good competition to their favourite phone.
2) HTC did not want to draw attention from their new G1 android phone, and therefore decided not to release in USA.
3) HTC thinks the investment would be wasted, due to the local dominance of the iPhone in USA, unlike in Europe, where the seemed to have accelerated its release.
I'm going with reason #1. Apple and AT&T are the devil and the devil's spawn, respectively.
Looks like XDA-Developers is going to have to start calling on some HARDWARE EXPERTS!! Swap out the radios perhaps???
Very disappointing news, but hopefully this just means that we'll get something even better when the Touch HD II is born!
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1) AT&T demanded that the HD stay out of USA, to prevent any competition with the iPhone 3G. In return they would carry the much delayed AT&T Fuze. This is supported by the absense of the HTC Touch Diamond on AT&T, indicating they do not welcome good competition to their favourite phone.
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This is why I'll never be an iPhone user
g1 sales?
If they said the t-HD was coming in march they would kill half the g1 sales, I figure as soon as the hype for the g1 is over there will magically be an t-HD for USA. I am waiting for a t-HD pro w/ keyboard. I got the g1 to play with/take apart until then.
Looks like i made a good gamble... i gave up on the fuze and speculated the HD would be months out and got a US Diamond 2 weeks ago.
Looks like i will be using the diamond a lot longer than i thought. Love the phone.
1) I think AT&T is mostly responsible, since they would probably just delay the HD until mid way through next year. And who would want it then if HTC reveals a new and better device? Besides, AT&T probably doesn't want an iPhone-killer that is going to kill its iPhone.
2) Tmo and Google could also be responsible. Judging from how well G1 sales have been going, Tmo might want to get its hands on a second Android device to hit two price-points: one all-around "good" device with keyboard at $179 (the G1), and another high-design iPhone-killer at ~$299. So who knows, maybe HTC/Tmo/Google killed the HD in order to resurrect it as an Android device. After all, there has been no shortage of "Android on HD" comments everywhere, and Tmo actually keeps track of the blogosphere.
The latest on HTC's tweet:
http://twitter.com/htc/statuses/948811620
City AM claims that Carphone Warehouse has signed an agreement with google to distribute the nexus two before christmas. no info about what manufacturer will make the phone, but it will ship with gingerbread and replace the N1 as the dev phone.
http://www.cityam.com/news-and-analysis/google-and-carphone-mobile-deal
This would be awesome, I just hope it isn't too good to be true.
UK only? i dont understand why that would be..
i am assuming they have exclusivity for the UK, probably not for the US. i think they are somehow related to best buy, which could possibly mean the n2 will be sold in "actual" stores.
There's no Nexus Two and there will be no Nexus Two
It could be real because we need a next generation developer phone for more advanced stuff that the old Nexus One doesn't support due to its current hardware. In order for Google to develop a better on screen multitouch keyboard, and other advanced gestures, the Nexus One's poor touchscreen won't do it. If Gingerbread is confirmed to have native front facing camera support, they will need a new hardware with a front facing camera to test it on. Google might also add a gyroscope and other innovative hardware (including a higher resolution screen) in the new phone to set another standard for the 2011 high end Android phones.
4"screen with front facing camera...
I would get it...
nexus two article from phandroid
Nexus Two Launching Alongside Gingerbread in Time for the Holidays?
by Kevin Krause on October 26th, 2010
An interesting report has surfaced from London-based business paper City A.M. that claims the followup to the Nexus One — what very well could be dubbed the Nexus Two — will be released through an exclusive deal with Carphone Warehouse in the UK as the second Google-branded Android handset. This comes as a new but similar approach to the sale of the original N1, moving away from a single Google-owned site pedaling the smartphone but still bucking carrier obligations.
Other than the fact that City A.M. happens to be a pretty reputable source, we have plenty of reasons to believe the Nexus Two is real. What better way to launch the latest update to Android, Gingerbread, then alongside a brand new Nexus handset? The discontinuation of sales through Google of the Nexus One over the summer and the throttling back of N1 support through the soon to be read-only forums all hint at an upcoming successor, especially after Google bigwigs remain incessant that they haven’t given up on their handheld ventures, only the model they originally used to sell mobile phones.
Questions still remain unanswered, including which manufacturer might take the reigns on the Nexus Two. Google could very well stick with HTC, though Motorola and their top-secret Tegra 2 handset remains a viable option. Heck, we may have even already spied the Nexus Two floating around as a codenamed device. What’s your guess?
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There's no Nexus Two and there will be no Nexus Two
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It appears you missed the link in the OP.
This isn't some random android blog reporting it.
I hope this is true. Been waiting for a proper Nexus replacement with an eay unlock bootloader. The G2 is not cutting it...
Hopefully it comes with a keyboard, if not then I will still buy it.
That news article does give life to a possible N2
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This isn't some random android blog reporting it.
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Uhh...
What the heck is CityAM?
I've never heard of it.
I smell another "HOLIDAY EDITION NEXUS"/ and it smells like fresh baked gingerbread.
This is highly problematic, as someone who just got a G2. haha
I'm glad I didnt get a G2 now.
Best Buy Europe
In May 2008 Best Buy agreed to buy a 50% share of The Carphone Warehouse plc for £1.1 billion to launch the Best Buy Europe joint venture.[20] The first store is set to be open in Thurrock, Essex.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Carphone_Warehouse
Wikipedia I know but still.
It wouldnt work unless a huge company sold it.
If it came from the UK it wouldnt be HSPA+ compatible.
I am getting one the day it hits !
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I'm glad I didnt get a G2 now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Carphone_Warehouse
Wikipedia I know but still.
It wouldnt work unless a huge company sold it.
If it came from the UK it wouldnt be HSPA+ compatible.
I am getting one the day it hits !
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I hope they get best buy on board. Adopt them for att and one for tmobile with HSPA+....yummy.
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I hope they get best buy on board. Adopt them for att and one for tmobile with HSPA+....yummy.
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I don't see why creating two versions should be a problem, they did it with the N1, why not the N2
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I hope they get best buy on board. Adopt them for att and one for tmobile with HSPA+....yummy.
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Dude. Really ?
Best Buy owns 50% of Carphone Warehouse.
? ?
Best Buy has skin in the game.
They are on board.
N1 is still a highly capable device. Don't see a reason why Big G would release N2 so soon. HTC and Samsung are making more powerful devices that can support gingerbread so hardware is already there.
Could be the Samsung Google experience phone ...
http://m.examiner.com/exSanFrancisco/pm_75809/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=WzckuLg6
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I can accept that story or some other form it. I mean, it is out in Europe and has been for some time. And they have been dropping new phones with 2.2 for a while now. Why wouldn't these A-holes release it in the States. Can't imagine they have been testing the firmware for the past 7 months.
I have the epic and our update got delayed too. I knew it had something to do some bs like this but why would they delay the epic update because it already has sprint 4g in it. They could be upgrading their wimax to lte or coming out with the bidder screen model with the super amoled plus screen and they will launch that with froyo and leave ours in the dust. I guess we will find out on the 3rd of feb at sprints special event
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I thought maybe Samsung was going to just skip 2.2 and release a 2.3 update because Samsung is already running 2.3 on their Nexus S.
I was actually going to buy an Epic tomorrow.
But, if this article is true, I am going to "devalue" Samsung and not buy their product.
[email protected] them if they are making existing customers suffer because of their greed.
Honestly, this is probably true. I know this sucks, but companies like this value their earnings more than their customers. Those of us who have been eagerly awaiting Froyo are in the minority, and they know that most of the people who own these devices couldn't care less about it.
This will probably be the last Samsung phone that I will ever buy, I'd rather give my money to a company which values their customers and provides customers with timely information regarding updates and the like.
This reminds me of the initial warnings about previous samsung devices and the lack of updates when the epic first came out. Although this is the best sprint phone I have owned to date I still wonder if I should have taken those warnings a little more seriously!
Yes I heard complaints in the past about Samsung's poor phone support but I still got the Epic. Mostly because my old phone (HTC Touch) died and it was going to cost $100 for a replacement (thanks lame Sprint insurance). So I just decided to get a new phone and compared to the Evo, the Epic seemed like the much better option. After experiencing Samsung's greed and lack of support for their existing products, I'm going back to HTC next go round.
Let's kill!
Agree. This most likely would've been the last Samsung phone I bought. This pretty much seals the deal.
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For my next phone I'm going to do exactly what I did with this phone. Find out what the best phone is.. check the phones out.. and go with the one that is the best. Right now, even after the Evo 4G Shift was released, the Epic and other Galaxy S phones are still the best phone. I have friends with the Evo, Droid X, MyTouch.. and I can safely say that I have the best phone. Those phones have 2.2, but I wouldn't THINK about switching to them. Do I want 2.2? Of course. I have it now thanks to custom roms but of course it kinda aggravates me that there is no official release of 2.2 yet. But that is ok. If I had a choice between a laptop with a Intel i3 running Windows 7 and a Intel i7 running Windows Vista (or even XP), I would take the i7.
In my opinion, company tactics will forever aggravate us users. Throwing around other company names like HTC as the company that will be this "knight in shining armor" will only dissappoint you in the future. I have had 3 HTC phones previously and without a doubt, I can say that they are definitely not beyond screwing their customers over. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it is right, but I'm saying that it is not uncommon. The day that these companies become non-profit organizations is the day you will see them put customers first.. I'm not holding my breath.
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For my next phone I'm going to do exactly what I did with this phone. Find out what the best phone is.. check the phones out.. and go with the one that is the best. Right now, even after the Evo 4G Shift was released, the Epic and other Galaxy S phones are still the best phone. I have friends with the Evo, Droid X, MyTouch.. and I can safely say that I have the best phone. Those phones have 2.2, but I wouldn't THINK about switching to them. Do I want 2.2? Of course. I have it now thanks to custom roms but of course it kinda aggravates me that there is no official release of 2.2 yet. But that is ok. If I had a choice between a laptop with a Intel i3 running Windows 7 and a Intel i7 running Windows Vista (or even XP), I would take the i7.
In my opinion, company tactics will forever aggravate us users. Throwing around other company names like HTC as the company that will be this "knight in shining armor" will only dissappoint you in the future. I have had 3 HTC phones previously and without a doubt, I can say that they are definitely not beyond screwing their customers over. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it is right, but I'm saying that it is not uncommon. The day that these companies become non-profit organizations is the day you will see them put customers first.. I'm not holding my breath.
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I couldn't have said this better. I had debated typing this up earlier but you beat me to it. Great minds think alike
JD
As Lee Corso would say, 'not so fast my friend.' Before I scooped my Epic, I had the HTC Touch (the original way old Vogue) and the ppc6700 (the silver brick) before that. I never had any issues with software other than crappy windows mobile but when it came to updates and/or support, I was happy. Hardware was on point as well. Samsung Galaxy has been a major disappointment for me having owner various Samsung products and knowing that their hardware is excellent. Still think the Epic is terrific. Just disappointed at all the troubles that customers have experienced across the entire Galaxy lineup.
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I couldn't have said this better. I had debated typing this up earlier but you beat me to it. Great minds think alike
JD
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This page has more detailed information on the T-Mobile leaked rumor:
...Trust me when I tell you, we had an update for the original G1, and HTC begged us not to. In 75% of the cases known to me in my [time] here and my [time] dealing with Android I will say that honestly most upgrade hold offs were the Manufacturer and NOT us as some believe. But we catch the flack.
I am tired. [redacted] I am up to here with Samsung. They pulled the same thing with the Behold 2 that I MYSELF had to clean up and caught wind over. The update to 2.1 update 1 is existant...
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If true, this shows how completely and utterly out of touch Samsung's executives are with reality.
First of all, the whole theory that a 2.2-Vibrant(non-4G) would "devalue" the 4G. EVEN IF the only difference between the old and new Vibrant were the front camera and 4G, how many users likely to notice or care about whether or not the current Vibrant has 2.2 would *honestly* choose to buy the old model instead of the new one, even if it were a $50 difference between the two? People who buy $50 phones or wait months to get an old model on closeout for "free" with 2-year contract aren't the people who buy phones like the Epic, Vibrant, and the rest of the Galaxy S family. People in "our" category might ******* about a $50 difference... but we'll pay it anyway, because we know that if we don't, we'll be miserable and regret it daily for the next year or two.
Ditto, for customers who already own a Vibrant. In the entire United f***ing States, there *might* be 10,000 Vibrant owners who'll dump one and buy a Vibrant4G at full retail just to get 4G and/or the front camera. And I'll bet that a hefty subset of that group are T-Mobile employees whose "full" cost (after employee discount) is roughly what the rest of us would pay for a subsidized phone with contract, anyway. Now, having satisfied that group... how many more existing Vibrant customers do they REALLY think they're going to get by withholding 2.2 from owners of older Vibrants? Especially considering the abundance of custom ROMs.
The rationale becomes even more absurd when you consider the case of withholding 2.2 from Epic4G owners. I'm sure if you combed America hard enough, you might find a few Epic4G owners who'd dump it, pay the ETF to Sprint, switch to T-Mobile, and buy a Vibrant4G... but scratch a bit deeper, and I'd bet a major body part that the overwhelming majority of THAT group consists of users who probably wanted to switch anyway, and the existence of the Vibrant4G was more of an enabling excuse and rationale than an actual *reason*.
Companies like Samsung just don't seem to "get it". Consumers might chuck a $25 mp3 player to buy a newer, cooler one in 4 months. Statistically NOBODY chucks an expensive pocket computer whose marginal replacement cost exceeds $400 for an incremental improvement 4-6 months down the line. The closest ANY phone has probably come to motivating early switching was the Evo, and that was basically because the Evo was roughly twice as good as the Hero in almost every meaningful way, and worse in basically none. Users MIGHT be induced to switch early for 10x faster data, twice the cpu speed, 50% more resolution on a screen nearly twice the size, and a lot more ram. Users are NOT going to casually switch because one has 2.2 and one is officially stuck at 2.1... they're just going to root, reflash, and promise their deity of choice that they'll never buy another Samsung phone again.
If anything, T-Mobile is the biggest loser, because if true, this means that Samsung is effectively doing its best to devalue T-Mobile's inventory of existing unsold Vibrants. Now, if T-Mobile charges $10/month more for 4G service, that might merit trying harder to induce otherwise-indifferent new purchasers to go with the 4G model instead of the old model... but if it's the same price per month for service, it's to T-Mobile's own advantage to all but encourage new customers who are indifferent between the two to go with the old one... it's one less phone for T-Mobile to write off as a loss and send to a spare parts warehouse to gather dust until it ends up in a landfill or gets dumped on a new penny-pinching customer who only cares that it's "free" with 2-year contract, and one fewer customer who'll start abusing youtube as a source of free in-car music on demand (soaking up lots of bandwidth in the process).
This is the kind of logic that leaves me wondering how some big corporations can even stay in business. I worked for one a couple of years ago where we were ordered to *immediately* dispose of a hundred or so old laptops -- at a cost of $250 apiece -- instead of keeping them piled on a few shelves in a storage room in case we came up with a good use for them someday (like using them as thin clients for call center operators... something we had, in fact, done before). The executive rationale? The accountants complained that they were "costing" us $5,000/month to store based on the square-foot value of the space they were taking up in the closet, and somebody's wet dream fantasies about the value of that space. The thing is, we were about ~15 employees in a warehouse-like facility almost a square city block in size that was 95% empty (built during the dotcom boom, then the company was stuck with it due to a glut of similar buildings nearby). So, we burned $25,000 in the name of emptying off a 4x6 foot steel shelving unit, basically to humor the delusional fantasies of a faceless borg more concerned with a checklist item than getting actual work done and bringing in revenue. Madness. Pure, faceless, bureaucratically-driven out of control insanity.
HeXeD said:
For my next phone I'm going to do exactly what I did with this phone. Find out what the best phone is.. check the phones out.. and go with the one that is the best. Right now, even after the Evo 4G Shift was released, the Epic and other Galaxy S phones are still the best phone. I have friends with the Evo, Droid X, MyTouch.. and I can safely say that I have the best phone. Those phones have 2.2, but I wouldn't THINK about switching to them. Do I want 2.2? Of course. I have it now thanks to custom roms but of course it kinda aggravates me that there is no official release of 2.2 yet. But that is ok. If I had a choice between a laptop with a Intel i3 running Windows 7 and a Intel i7 running Windows Vista (or even XP), I would take the i7.
In my opinion, company tactics will forever aggravate us users. Throwing around other company names like HTC as the company that will be this "knight in shining armor" will only dissappoint you in the future. I have had 3 HTC phones previously and without a doubt, I can say that they are definitely not beyond screwing their customers over. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it is right, but I'm saying that it is not uncommon. The day that these companies become non-profit organizations is the day you will see them put customers first.. I'm not holding my breath.
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I agree with you and I really love my Epic BUT.... I can't help wondering how much better the phone would be with the upgrade.
Also Im sure this has been posted but this is an interesting read rating carriers and manufacturers on their upgrade rate.
looks to be true. This is on the front page of yahoo news.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/216716/samsung_blocking_ota_update_on_tmobile.html
Also made it to Slashdot!
http://it.slashdot.org/story/11/01/13/2334213/Is-Samsung-Blocking-Updates-To-Froyo
And PC World:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/216716/samsung_blocking_ota_update_on_tmobile.html
I have a feeling some people at Samsung are having a very bad day indeed.
Nexus S reboot problem:
Google Nexus S, google's second handset is in the limelight for wrong reasons this time. Looks like, the nexus S handsets are randomly rebooting atleast once every 48 hours, usually during a voice call! Google has officially confirmed this bug in their support forum. All the handsets that has been updated to the latest version of gingerbread (Android 2.3.1/GRH78) are affected by this bug.
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User's post from Slashdot story:
The real reason they are stonewalling on the 2.2 update for Vibrant is this: When they released the 2.2 update for the Vibrant in Canada, the update worked fine for a week or two, and then like clockwork bricked a huge percentage of the phones that updated. And when I say bricked, I'm not being liberal with that word, after a week or so running the Samsung 2.2 update, the SD card would become corrupt, and recovery mode would be unable to format it. My wife and I both have Vibrants, and it happened to them both one day apart. Samsung has been silent on the matter. Not surprising they'd avoid moving sending the 2.2 update out to US Vibrant owners, and also not surprising that they're refusing to explain why. Bell at least is fixing them, but lots of people on the XDA forum are saying their "repaired" phones are bricking again in short order.
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Samsung's official response to CNET's query about the rumor:
Samsung Mobile does not comment on rumors or speculation. With regard to the Froyo update, we recently issued the following statement: "Samsung feels it is important to make the Android 2.2/Froyo upgrade available only after we feel that we can give the millions of U.S. Galaxy S owners a simple and reliable upgrade experience. Due to the complexity and unique functionality of each Galaxy S device, we are performing additional testing and are working to make the Android 2.2/Froyo upgrade available to all U.S. Galaxy S owners, including the Samsung Vibrant, as soon as possible.
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Just to add to this conversation --> Just got off a chat with Sprint and I kept asking them about Froyo for the Epic. Everytime I mentioned it, the Sprint rep would direct me to Samsung and it's their fault. I think they got mad that I kept asking and pushing the subject, that they said they could no longer help me on the chat and gave me Samsung's number to call.
Looking at Samsung's facebook account, there a bunch of people complaining about this issue. Hopefully all this pressure will make Samsung cave in. *crosses fingers*
I call bull****.
Having come from the Crackberry world, this sort of stuff happens all the time. A supposed "reliable source" will leak some sort of story, the fringe enthusiast sites get wind of it and generates chatter and it eventually gets picked up by a naive journalist with a lazy editor and it gets put up as "legit" news which then causes a feedback loop which causes the internet to explore.
The example that comes to mind is the OS 4.7.0.113 update for the Blackberry Storm 9530 on Verizon, a leaked OS that "reliable sources" claimed was going to be the next official update but wasn't. It made it to PC World as well:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/163056/blackberry_storm_to_get_firmware_update.html
And it was 100% bull****. So I wouldn't give this rumor much credence.
The explanation of not wanting to take the wind out of the sails of the Vibrant 4G is irrelevant to other Galaxy S models where there is no similar Osbourne effect - such as with the Epic 4G.
My guess is that the actual explanation is much more mundane. Given the problem with Froyo bricking Vibrants, I would bet dollars to donuts that Samsung got super gunshy and their slow approach to Froyo updates to smaller markets is nothing more than a widespread, low-risk beta test to make sure their code is up to snuff before risking releasing an unstable update to the larger, litigious American Galaxy S userbases.
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Anything for Sprint?
Nope. All weak minor updates to current phones.
Still gotta wait it seems.....
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underwhelming to say the least
also whoever brought the leno chin back needs to be kicked off R&D, and also could they make the facebook button look anymore like an after thought?
Boo! C' mon htc, quit messing around! Get those quad core snapdragons and get your ass in gear! Still, like tk said, underwhelming.
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user7618 said:
Boo! C' mon htc, quit messing around! Get those quad core snapdragons and get your ass in gear! Still, like tk said, underwhelming.
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Agreed. Can't wait for the "next gen" android phones
It's killing me to see the lack of phones for Sprint. You would think we'd hear about a Hero 2 or EVO 4G 2 - but nada. I'm sorry but Sanyo just is not what I think of when innovation and exciting are referenced.
I doubt we will hear much of anything for Sprint at MWC, as it's more directed towards the European and Asian markets.
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rampop said:
It's killing me to see the lack of phones for Sprint. You would think we'd hear about a Hero 2 or EVO 4G 2 - but nada. I'm sorry but Sanyo just is not what I think of when innovation and exciting are referenced.
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Sprint always does this they get a big flagship phone but then they let them get long in the tooth or a they Target to take on another phone, also they really bank on that phone instead of diversifying
Examples
HTC touch
Samsung instinct
Palm pre
And it looks like the evo will follow the trend atleast it was spec'd decently well to start instead of being DOA like before
I think Sprint is banking on this echo more than they should
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Yeah - its reasonable to suspect we wouldn't hear anything but Verizon is out there and they are US based... Either way - nothing impressive for HTC/Sprint thus far.
Aren't they still owned by vodafone though?
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Yeah - its reasonable to suspect we wouldn't hear anything but Verizon is out there and they are US based... Either way - nothing impressive for HTC/Sprint thus far.
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When HTC announces new phones, expect Sprint to get rebranded versions months later (see: EVO, Shift, Hero).
seems like sprint always focuses their attention to one or two phones
I wish Sprint would come out with one really nice new phone already, like the evo, but updated to be high-end in the newer market...
The best device, it seems, that was announced by HTC is the Flyer. That looks pretty cool.
and when sprint gets a new android whoever knows when later cellsouth will get it
You think Motorola will finally give Sprint some attention? Verizon brought the majority of Motorola's mobile revenue but now that Verizon will probably be spending the majority of their advertising coin on promoting the Iphone Motorola must be switching gears, as we starting to see with the introduction of the Atrix on At&t.
I'm also a little split with my upgrade. I don't know whether to upgrade on Sprint and risk my 4g device becoming obsolete when Sprint adopts LTE, as one of the top CEO has admitted they are considering, or jump ship and join T-mobile.
Whats your guys opinion on your next upgrade?
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You think Motorola will finally give Sprint some attention? Verizon brought the majority of Motorola's mobile revenue but now that Verizon will probably be spending the majority of their advertising coin on promoting the Iphone Motorola must be switching gears, as we starting to see with the introduction of the Atrix on At&t.
I'm also a little split with my upgrade. I don't know whether to upgrade on Sprint and risk my 4g device becoming obsolete when Sprint adopts LTE, as one of the top CEO has admitted they are considering, or jump ship and join T-mobile.
Whats your guys opinion on your next upgrade?
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Sorry about that went really of track . It meant to be a comment on how Sprint next flagship device will probably be a Motorola device and not a HTC device.