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O2 (UK) Confirm XDA Mini Pro Release (& Great Deals)

In light of O2 Germany announcing that they will be releasing the wizard as the XDA Mini S, I have just spoken to O2 (UK)'s Marketing Dept & they Officially confirmed they will be follcwing suit, with a UK release date of late October or early November, (stock & supply pemitting, (haha, hehe), they also confirmed that it will be released in the UK under the brand name of the XDA Mini Pro instead of Mini S, GET EM WHILE THERE HOT BOYS (or not, as the case may be)
Regards & Best Wishes Ash'e.

October / November. Jeez that is ages away.
I'm now looking at the Tornado (i-mate SP5) but from looking on the Expansys site where you can pre-order this it is very very expensive.

O2 (UK) XDA Mini S Pricing
The Price of the XDA Wizard Pro looks like its going to be £199.99-GBP or less, sounds like a good deal to me, think I will leave the Tornado or XDA Phone well alone in light of that.
Regards Ash'e

The waiting is killing me...
Terran

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Don't get me started. I've had mine on order since August and I've been without a phone for a month :|

£474 actually: http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=125518

Actually not with an O2 Contract
Actually I need a new O2 contract, so instead of buying the I-Mate sim free version online, think I will hang on that little bit longer & get the XDA Mini Pro version of the HTC Wizard & save myself £300.00 GBP, since I need a new phone contract as I will need to make phone calls next year.
Always beer an early (wait for a good deal) adoptor, not an early, early take what ever deal I can, merely to get my hands on the latest kit first adoptor, you no I have always found what a difference a month can make when buying newly released tech.
Besides which my contact at O2 said that there is a chance that with the right contract it could even be free, (best for business 250 or above).
Oh on a foot note 02 business is offering completely free of charge GPRS access within reasonable usage limits (not more than 38 megs download a month).
All in all if you get a free Wizard and free GPRS access and some exclusive minutes every month for 18 months, sounds like a good deal to me.
Regards Ash'e

Where did you see unlimted data?
I'm buying a jasjar now w/o2 plan, not busniess, though I can, would love the data bit...

Its only available when you buy direct from O2 & when it is an XDA branded product & is available from the 15 of October, ethical usage does apply though.
Regards Ash'e

Are you sure that ethical usage does not apply?
So it would mean unlimited 3g? Skype calls and all? Unbelievable. Also, how do you know it is only available from the 15th vs the 3rd as o2 say? ( I spoke with o2 business today)

Not quite that easy
Although in theory Skype should work on GPRS, they say on the Skype site that there are problems with it, & Personally I have never managed to get it to work, usually lock in to a free WiFi Zone to use Skype.
Besides Which a Skype call on GPRS, would be highly bandwidth/megabyte intensive, which would be in contradiction of the O2 ethical usage limits.
However as to the date that is what I was told over the phone, could have moved it up my contact is one of my best mates from Oxford Uni who managed to become a director of O2 (lucky sod) but he does sometimes get his dates wrong he works in IT not marketing,
Nevertheless there is (within certain limits) free GPRS, which with a free XDA Mini Pro, & some inclusive minutes & texts I think its still a good deal and a great money saver,
Regards Ashe

Free Grprs - Data
This is the first i hear about this usage policy, but I thought the free data, whether 3g or gprs (I am getting the jasjar on an 02 contract for minutes, not data) was indeed only for o2 business users, and not the o2 35mb data only tarif (35GBp). I am confused as where the data is free.
You can have a data only business tariff, but that has a 35mb limit, besides, I don't know how you find unlimited data on o2??? (I get GPRS bills)

Let Me Explain
My buddy at O2 lets me know what the best deals are that are coming up, however O2 has a strict policy of not releasing any information to even its sales staff untill at max a couple of days before they become active, because if they did a lot of people would keep waiting for the better deals and this could makes there sales eratic.
As a customer they want you to take the best deal that is available at the time not what is on the cards in a months time.
O2 are trying to get there GPRS usage up and have come up with a plan to get more of there XDA business users used to using GPRS and the internet on there devices, knowing full well that once they get use to it even when the offer ends they will more than likely keep using it after experiencíng its advantages first hand.
I am just lucky that a director at O2 likes to keep me sweet because of certain aspects of my work and my long freindship with him, because of this I get the luxury of a little bit of pre-release information, thats all, believe me I always joke with him about giving me a little bit more for old times sake, I never get it though, although I do with a little bit of patience always get a good deal, he has never let me down yet, it was him that told me to hang on for the release of the XDA Mini Pro, and the unreleased release date for it, although O2 UK will corfirm that they definitely are releasing the XDA Mini Pro, my buddy just let me know when and what good deals would be attached to it.
Regards Ash'e

Softly, Softly Catchee Monkey.
In Light of some of the Sim Free prices I Keep seeing around this site, I think that maybe it might be worth waiting for some of the contract deal with the big providers.
Regards Ash'e

Sorry guys if this has been mentioned already, but for anyone that's missed this, what do you think of the 'magicians' successor, o2s' branded xda Atom?
Same form factor as the magician, but with WM 5.0, 128 Rom, on-board wifi, 262k QVGA screen, integrated FM Radio and a .....yes...2 megapixel camera upgrade!
I'm getting seriously confused. If we can believe these specs, it really throws a spanner in the works for me. I mean, I've pretty much decided on the Universal (just not sure on MDA Pro or o2s' Exec) but this 'Atom' thing is a serious upgrade from the old Jam and remains 'pocket friendly'. Opinions anyone...advice would be appreciated.
Anyway check this link and judge for yourselves.
read more here: http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/handhelds/0,39001703,39095540p,00.htm

i don't have any "sources" but i called up 02 and they confirmed that it will be released on the 3rd and the mini s should be out by the end of the year as they have it on there system as a near future release

To jaythemagicain:
if that post of yours was in response to mine,...thanks alot! I'll need to check out both the Exec and the Atom side by side, in person, to get a clearer perspective on things.
I was seriously contemplating the MDA Pro due out hopefully end of this month,...but now, can't wait till the 3rd! What's a few more days, right?

The Atom is Confusing Me To:
I have to admit that all the recent news as regards the XDA Atom, is confusing me to, had almost decided on the Wizard or XDA Mini Pro as they are now calling it unlike XDA Mini S there calling it in Germany, now however, the XDA Atom slowley creeps in and confuses us all again, a few confirmed specs would be really usefull.
Even Jag at O2 has heard nothing about it yet & I don't even know if it is anything to do with HTC.
Has anyone got any updated specs to put us all out of our misery
Regards Ash'e

It could be that it's the same sort of thing like voda and orange did when they basically made the jam but reworked it and made the vpa/spv versions.Perhaps one of the mini s's,but the keyboardless version,and reworked?

The Phantom Atom
Been searching for hours on the Internet & making lots of phone calls to everyone I know that may have any information on the Atom but to no avail, and no definative answer or information looks like we are just going to have to be patient, as I have said in other post this is almost like searching for the Holy Grail of Smartphones.
Every body loved the size of the magician, but wanted 128 Megs, WiFi & WM2005, but not to many people wanted the extra size, the slide out keyboard that caused the extra size or to have a slower CPU. Well it appears that the elusive XDA Atom fullfills all of these criteria, but is more elusive than the Holy Grail. However you can bet a pound to a dollar, that it will not reach Europe, and definatly not the UK, perhaps the operators are afraid to many people will buy them and start using Skype on WiFi, and effect there profits, it would certainly be easier to sell to the youth market because of its form factor.
Perhaps HTC should be listening to some of the comments on this forum as I reckon they could have a world beating Iconic device if they only thought about it and listened to what people are saying.
Oh well I will get down from my Soap Box now, any comments Chaps
Regards Ash'e

Orange exclusive in the UK

Orange can sell the HD with an exclusive deal in the UK starting first week of November untill years end......
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/27/orange-helps-itself-to-british-exclusive-on-touch-hd/

Worst network and it's exclusive for 3 months. So I'll have to wait for another 3 months I so want to upgrade but no good phone and the phone I want is on the wrong network.
HTC you have let me down

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...but not me

250mb browsing not cool. But it is only exclusive till the end of the year as it would be stupid for HTC to just keep it on Orange.

Orange would have to pay me to stay with them. Even here in the well-populated south east of England their network is the worst I've ever used. There's no way I'll get another phone with them so the HD will either come to me sim-free from someone like Expansys or I'll wait until the new year until I can get it from O2, who have the best tariff deals at the moment and whose network was excellent when I used my Exec.
Orange - if you're reading this, SORT IT OUT.

O2 might not release this phone on their networks, it wouldnt be the first time they havent released HTC phones, they have no reason to release every Phone HTC make, especially if its going to directly compete with something they are already selling, id hedge my bets by renewing my contract, getting the most expencive phone on the market and then sell it, then buy the Touch HD for full price else where.

How will this affect Sweden? Will we have to wait extra for the phone, or will it be released as normal?

I would have a bet that O2 won't be getting the HD ever, they have already listed the diamond and pro in their new magazine with no sign from the HD, too much direct comp for the iphone. As for Orange i have heard that they plan a few substantial changes in the way they operate within the coming months?
Dont know what that means but since i'm with them it'll def be interesting. I have been waiting for the touch pro for ages and it hasn't materialised on orange yet, so i think we deserve the HD!

I'm with orange because I have an old outdated data package which is well worth the money for me, i have be getting fed up waiting for orange to get the experia or the touch pro, so it makes a nice change for orange to ge this first.
Can you pre order with orange?

bollocks! getting fed u now, g1 t-mobile, hd orange, might just end up with an omnia after all **** marketing [email protected]

This is fecking annoying. I'm due an upgrade on both O2 and Vodafone and neither of them are doing this or anything that's a worthy sucessor to my N95. I suppose I'll just have to wait until the new year and hope that one or the other (preferably Vodafone) get this in.

k3v said:
I'm with orange because I have an old outdated data package which is well worth the money for me, i have be getting fed up waiting for orange to get the experia or the touch pro, so it makes a nice change for orange to ge this first.
Can you pre order with orange?
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i tried that. the helpdesk droid said no.

Available on O2?

Apologies if this has been asked before, but I couldn't find any reference.
Does anyone know if O2 in the UK are planning to offer this phone and if so, when?

Hi
O2 don't offer it directly but carephonewarehouse and mobiles offer it on O2 network
Sully

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Apologies if this has been asked before, but I couldn't find any reference.
Does anyone know if O2 in the UK are planning to offer this phone and if so, when?
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As far as I'm aware O2 do not intend to sell the HD directly as it is a direct competiture with the iphone of which they have a deal with Apple.
Similar to Vodaphones deal with Blackberry and the Storm

Many thanks for the replies.
If that is correct, is it a PITA. I have a contract with O2, but can upgrade the phone part way through.

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As far as I'm aware O2 do not intend to sell the HD directly as it is a direct competiture with the iphone of which they have a deal with Apple.
Similar to Vodaphones deal with Blackberry and the Storm
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You're half right.
It is similar to Vodaphone's deal with the Storm, except the similarity lies with Orange no O2 - Orange have a network-exclusive distribution deal with HTC for the HD in the UK, it's this that prevents O2 or any other network carrying the HD directly.
There is a pretty good chance that O2 wouldn't carry the HD even if they had the opportunity to do so, because of the potential competition with the iPhone as you've mentioned.
But, that's not the issue in this case.

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You're half right.
It is similar to Vodaphone's deal with the Storm, except the similarity lies with Orange no O2 - Orange have a network-exclusive distribution deal with HTC for the HD in the UK, it's this that prevents O2 or any other network carrying the HD directly.
There is a pretty good chance that O2 wouldn't carry the HD even if they had the opportunity to do so, because of the potential competition with the iPhone as you've mentioned.
But, that's not the issue in this case.
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I stand corrected. Good to know bro!

Orange UK Pricing change?

Can someone point me in the right direction for the thread concerning the above and the ability to get out of the contract please. I have spent ages looking. I had it as a bookmark but have re-installed.
Thanks for your help.
H

i think...
Im sorry to say you might be too late, pretty sure that they reversed their chnges after loosing so many customers.
I bought an omnia hd in may ended up paying 2 months line rental. got the phone for 80 pounds.
i read ab9ut this on money saving experts i think

Really surprised by the contents of the first thread. O2 are doing the exact same thing, since June they have stopped their retention deals. There is no chance of getting their XDA range let alone a modern htc phone due to there iphone supply.
If orange are out, o2 are out, that leaves T-mobile (for now) and vodafone.

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Really surprised by the contents of the first thread. O2 are doing the exact same thing, since June they have stopped their retention deals. There is no chance of getting their XDA range let alone a modern htc phone due to there iphone supply.
If orange are out, o2 are out, that leaves T-mobile (for now) and vodafone.
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Well t-mobile and orange are merging so will have to see how that effects them.

yarod_g14 said:
Im sorry to say you might be too late, pretty sure that they reversed their chnges after loosing so many customers.
I bought an omnia hd in may ended up paying 2 months line rental. got the phone for 80 pounds.
i read ab9ut this on money saving experts i think
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I had a look at that site but couldnt see it. Thanks anyway I will keep looking.
H

Yep your too late. They did a u turn on the new charges, and stopped people from cancelling.

HTC HD2 - Pre-Order or Wait?

As the title says, What would you do? Pre-Order expecting stock to be non existant when actually released? or wait for o2 to give away their hand?
I am on o2 don't want to move to another service provider, definatly want the phone as soon as its out or as near as. My contract isn't due till july
I do have some cash that I can use to buy but not ideal (the gaffa will kill me).
Paying off my existing contract will be cheaper than buying the HD2 but then I won't be able to upgrade for 18months.
or buy the phone and in less than 9 months I can get another one and sell it.
I just don't know. Do I think about things too much? LOL
Either way I will have my HD for sale as soon as I get the HD2! Whats a fair price?

Personally I'd wait. There's always problems when a new thing comes out, whether it's not enough stock to go around (remember all the stuff with the HD from mobiles.co.uk this time last year?) or technical problems that need ironing out. It's usually best to let all the hooha die down and let everyone else put up with and solve all the issues

I know what you mean, I got my HD from mobiles.co.uk but didn't experience any problems, process was smooth and got the phone really quick.
Also just found the HD2 for £499 which is much cheaper than most other places. God its so hard not to click buy buy buy!!

Oh dear my finger slipped. Got it for £494.95 + Delivery.
Anyone want a Mint HD?

Where is it that price please?

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MobileFun £499 with this Promotional Code "MFAWOCT9" Job Done!!!
Just a waiting game now!! I am so impulsive!! LOL

Thanks, might join the 'impulsive buyers union', although the seeming lack of a front camera on the HD2 is a potential stumbling block for me...

Cheers for the heads-up Richard.
I'm currently on a monthly SIM only contract with O2, and spoke to them yesterday about upgrading when they get the phone. I was strongly considering doing that, but I reckon I'll pay mobilefun a visit and then sell my HD to make back half the cost.
Nice - thanks
Edit: Ooooh - just noticed the release date of 11/11/09. O2 is looking appealing again!

Also on sim only with o2 at the moment - they seemingly don't let you upgrade until you've been on sim only for 6 months though for some reason, so I think if I want it before February (when I'll have been with them for 6 months) I will need to buy it, and stick on the cheap sim only deal.
Oh, and does anyone know when mobilefun charge your card - on order or on dispatch? Thanks!

johncmolyneux said:
Cheers for the heads-up Richard.
I'm currently on a monthly SIM only contract with O2, and spoke to them yesterday about upgrading when they get the phone. I was strongly considering doing that, but I reckon I'll pay mobilefun a visit and then sell my HD to make back half the cost.
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Your welcome, Thats exactly my plan now. I think you can upgrade 3 months early on o2 18 month contracts too so in april I can get another and sell it. Then the original HD2 won't of cost me a bean. If all goes to plan that is. LOL

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Thanks, might join the 'impulsive buyers union', although the seeming lack of a front camera on the HD2 is a potential stumbling block for me...
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I am a little dissapointed they give new hardware and take some other hardware away from us at the same time but I think they have realised that Video calling just hasn't taken off so they probably don't see the point of having a front camera.
I can count on 1 hand how many times I have used it since having a Diamond and my HD.
My girlfriend might see it differently as she uses the front camera as a mirror sometimes! lol

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Also on sim only with o2 at the moment - they seemingly don't let you upgrade until you've been on sim only for 6 months though for some reason
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skank - ask them to put you through to cancellations and ask them the same question. Yesterday, the CS girl I spoke to told me exactly the same thing as you, but put me through to cancellations because I had a query about cancelling my contract and when it would take effect. The girl in cancellations checked and said that they can do 2 types of credit check. One of them means you can't upgrade within the first 6 months, but the other means you can upgrade whenever you want. She said since they'd done a full credit check on me when I joined, I could upgrade immediately, so I'll probably go for that IN 10 DAYS TIME!!!! when the phone is supposed to become available.
It sounded like the CS staff don't really have the full picture, but the cancellations staff know a bit more. They were really helpful.
Good luck!

Thanks John. I did go to cancellations when I called but the guy seemed a bit dopey. Might call back. He was saying it might depend on whether or not I was with o2 before I went sim only, which I wasn't.

Same here - I was with Orange until they did that whole price change blunder. I was one of the lucky ones who got out of the contract and immediately moved to a virgin sim only deal. The coverage was sooooooo bad that I moved to O2. I've only been with them a week and they were more than happy to upgrade me.
Maybe you're right - call back and cross your fingers that you get someone a bit more clued up. I really should have asked the girl I spoke to for her name as I expect the next person I speak to will say "No. Can't upgrade you." and I'll then be outside the 14 day cancellation period.

I just thought i'd post this up, a reply I just got from o2 regarding the HD2. Doesn't really bother me now I have pre-ordered but some of you may be interested.
Good afternoon Richard
Thanks for emailing us about your phone query. I understand that you're interested in buying an HTC HD2 and want to know when it'd be available with us. Let me quickly look into this matter.
Richard, you'll be excited to know that this fantastic phone will soon be available with us. However, I'm unable to comment on when this phone will be launched as it's due to be released in the future. As soon as its available with us, it'll be immediately updated on our website.

Cheers Richard.
The girl I spoke to said that O2 has a release date of 19/10/09, but it's not official yet, as they're still "going through checks". That date can be put back. Basically, they'll put it on the website as soon as they have a definite and confirmed release date.
Need now to figure out how to sleep for a week and a half without starving or getting sacked, just to make the day come quicker! lol

Just called o2 and they said definitely no upgrade before 6 months, for anyone. You might want to call and check john!
I know you can't get a PAC and use it on the same network, but is it possible to go from o2 simplicity - orange PAYG - o2 contract with HD2?
Surely it is...

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Cheers Richard.
The girl I spoke to said that O2 has a release date of 19/10/09, but it's not official yet, as they're still "going through checks". That date can be put back. Basically, they'll put it on the website as soon as they have a definite and confirmed release date.
Need now to figure out how to sleep for a week and a half without starving or getting sacked, just to make the day come quicker! lol
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Yeah, wish we could hibernate!! Your like me, Hate waiting for new tech!! LOL

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Just called o2 and they said definitely no upgrade before 6 months, for anyone. You might want to call and check john!
I know you can't get a PAC and use it on the same network, but is it possible to go from o2 simplicity - orange PAYG - o2 contract with HD2?
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Well I hope to have more luck than you're having. The girl I spoke to said I didn't even need to go via the PAYG route to keep my number. I was considering a 14 day cancellation, then an O2 PAYG, then an O2 contract.
Guess we'll just have to wait and see. If I get anyone helpful again, I'll make sure to get their name (and possibly number), and pass it on to you.

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Well I hope to have more luck than you're having. The girl I spoke to said I didn't even need to go via the PAYG route to keep my number. I was considering a 14 day cancellation, then an O2 PAYG, then an O2 contract.
Guess we'll just have to wait and see. If I get anyone helpful again, I'll make sure to get their name (and possibly number), and pass it on to you.
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Thanks John. Good luck, and if you could let me know that would be great.