I'm tempted to buy one, I did just buy a TP2 though
So who's buying one?
I am going to give back my TP2 today and order one from the store. The better camera is more important to me than the keyboard. I have young kids and the TP2 camera sucks unless I can get them to stay still which isn't possible. Plus the reduced weight will be nice too. I really do like the TP2 as it is the best phone I have used however I think the Imagio will be better for my specific needs.
Update: Well now I read a review that even though it is higher MP the camera still sucks, so maybe I'll stick with my TP2 after all.
To bad your on verizon. I would say get a Touch HD2. It has flash. The 5mp camer on my diamond2 is actually loads better than that on the TP2. It all depends on lighting though.In Good light it's awesome but low light you can't tell a difference between the TP2 and TD2.
Just ordered the Imagio.
Every review I've seen or read said that the camera was tons better on the Imagio when compared with the TP2. The only thing that I don't like is that nobody seems to be working on a Leo Rom for the Imagio!!!!!!! Its killing me! Why do CDMA phones get left out when it comes to ROMS? I even offered $500 for a ROM for the Imagio and am willing to go even higher but....nothing!!!!
i got it anyway
I just ordered it anyway. While I would love to hack it basically the 6.5 ROM with unlocked GPS has everything I need so I can wait on the unlocking. I would imagine since the CDMA TP2 and Imagio have the same specs other than the keyboard/camera that the ROMs will be compatible. Now it will just be the very long wait for the hard spl.
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Every review I've seen or read said that the camera was tons better on the Imagio when compared with the TP2. The only thing that I don't like is that nobody seems to be working on a Leo Rom for the Imagio!!!!!!! Its killing me! Why do CDMA phones get left out when it comes to ROMS? I even offered $500 for a ROM for the Imagio and am willing to go even higher but....nothing!!!!
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I agree, with you there not much activity in the CDMA Topaz (Imagio) section. I'm going to post a Imagio vs. Pure thread in the Topaz General to see if it draws interest to the Imagio
I decided to skip the keyboard on the TP2 and dive into this one. I didnt use the keyboard my touch pro has as much as i thought i would. Kind of a pain to slide it open every 2 minutes.
Chalk up another one that switched from TP2 to the Imagio (goofy name for a phone). I had the TP2 since launch and I found the phone to be very good. But since I rarely used the keyboard (I hate texting) I found that the Imagio looked sexier and already has 6.5 installed (should not be a issue once the phones are unlocked). There were also problems in some apps that when you wanted to use the keyboard the app would not respond correctly causing me to kill the program and start in landscape mode. In addition I inadvertently activated the slider when pulling the TP2 out of my holster. Plus it should be easier to get a decent aluminum case which was not possible on the TP2 due to the slider design.
Verizon also made it easy for me to swap devices. I was expecting problems but the agent was like OK, which device would you like since your still within your 30 day 100% satisfaction guarantee .
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Verizon also made it easy for me to swap devices. I was expecting problems but the agent was like OK, which device would you like since your still within your 30 day 100% satisfaction guarantee .
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I called VZ last night. They told me I would have to order the IG at full price, then wait up to 2 months for them to receive the TP2, then they would issue the credit.
How "easy" was your experience or even the process explained by the rep?
I would also have to return my TP2 to VZ, no in-store tradebacks since I bought the TP2 online.
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I called VZ last night. They told me I would have to order the IG at full price, then wait up to 2 months for them to receive the TP2, then they would issue the credit.
How "easy" was your experience or even the process explained by the rep?
I would also have to return my TP2 to VZ, no in-store tradebacks since I bought the TP2 online.
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got mine today.. it's really awesome, needless to say.. it is fully loaded with all of the verizon online crap but i have so many proggies from my touch that i'm all set with their v-cast, etc.. as for its operation, it's very smooth and "iphoney" totally new iphone keyboard and everything.. even the winmo core interface is all jacked up.. and it has a 5mp camera, it's super fast, wifi, bluetooth.. just an awesome phone.. get it.. u won't be sorry.
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Sounds Pretty Nice!
Does the GPS work with TomTom, and google maps/bing?
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I called VZ last night. They told me I would have to order the IG at full price, then wait up to 2 months for them to receive the TP2, then they would issue the credit.
How "easy" was your experience or even the process explained by the rep?
I would also have to return my TP2 to VZ, no in-store tradebacks since I bought the TP2 online.
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I tried buying tp2 on release day but the online ordering was not working for me forcing me to call 611. Im guessing different procedure when buying in store vs online vs 611. If you buy in store or 611 they charge an early upgrade fee of $20 which I got waived the first time.
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I called VZ last night. They told me I would have to order the IG at full price, then wait up to 2 months for them to receive the TP2, then they would issue the credit.
How "easy" was your experience or even the process explained by the rep?
I would also have to return my TP2 to VZ, no in-store tradebacks since I bought the TP2 online.
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That's why I always order mine in a store, when I did my TP2 swap it was easy. Not trying to rub it in, just saying next time you way want to consider the store. I was in and out in 10 min.
Oh that's good to know, since the TP2 was never sold in stores.
So you basically had the store order from corporate, and picked it up locally?
Something seems fishy about what they told me, I'll have to call them again about the return/credit/onlinerebate, etc.
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Oh that's good to know, since the TP2 was never sold in stores.
So you basically had the store order from corporate, and picked it up locally?
Something seems fishy about what they told me, I'll have to call them again about the return/credit/onlinerebate, etc.
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You can have them order it at the store even though they don't have it there they ship it to you 2-day for free or overnight for $9.
Same thing I did with Imagio, only problem is I had to give back TP2 when I ordered the Imagio, use a temp phone until I got it, which isn't that big of deal for 1 or 2 days.
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I called VZ last night. They told me I would have to order the IG at full price, then wait up to 2 months for them to receive the TP2, then they would issue the credit.
How "easy" was your experience or even the process explained by the rep?
I would also have to return my TP2 to VZ, no in-store tradebacks since I bought the TP2 online.
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My experience was real pleasant. I sent my phone back in the box it came in, supplied the tracking number and they sent out my Imagio next day air. I was also told I could take it in the store and trade it when the store received the Imagio in stock. As long as you within the 30days from original purchase.
Well I just ordered one should be here by Monday. How do we go about starting a Whitestone/Imagio section to the forum?
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Well I just ordered one should be here by Monday. How do we go about starting a Whitestone/Imagio section to the forum?
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You are in the right place
I hope you don't have the flutter/echo problem I did with my VZ TP2. I thought it was a fluke at first.
Is the flutter echeo a random bug or is it a problem with all phones?
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Is the flutter echeo a random bug or is it a problem with all phones?
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There are several reports about it, but with all things internet.... try it!
Maybe it's my area and a few other areas, but I found an article on it tonight, too! Damed if I can find the link again.
Again, you can try it and you have 30 days to return (they give a return shipping label if ordered online VZ). Or apparently if you had the store order it, you can return in the store.
If you ordered online, you can NOT return to the local store. I posted the actual return line for the equipment above.
You will still need to call VZ to cancel the service on their regular cs number.
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I really did like this new 3.6" screen, I'll have to play with ATT's version more when I get mine tomorrow. I don't think it'll be that much different though.
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I saw on the news that the AT&T Tilt is released today.
I went to the AT&T website, and sure enough, there it is:
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...etails/?device=AT&T+Tilt(TM)&q_sku=sku1060009
Price: $299.
Man, I can't believe this! I had no idea a new model was coming so soon, I literally purchased my 8525 3 days ago!! Of course, the sales guy didn't bother to tell me a new model was coming with WM6 and more storage room, even though from what I told him, that would obviously be something of great importance to me. Of course, now I've got a custom WM6 ROM on it, wonder if there's any chance I could exchange it if I flash it back to the original?
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Of course, now I've got a custom WM6 ROM on it, wonder if there's any chance I could exchange it if I flash it back to the original?
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Hehehe, What are they going to do? Tell you "No"? Try it. Actually, if you bought it from a corporate store, I'd go back and kick your salesweasel's ass for selling it to you knowing that the Tilt is around the corner.
Also, I find it funny that on the website, the 8525 is still $50 higher than the tilt. Not exactly the best way to clear out of old stock
Yeah, they did say I can exchange the phone for 30 days, so I am going to give it a try. Already have it flashed back and ready to go. The sales rep I talked to on the phone doesn't seem to have much of a clue, he said the Tilt wasn't the actual 8525 replacement, another model called the "Pilgrim" was supposed to be the upgrade and the Tilt he said was slower which is why it was priced lower. I checked the specs, and it's the same speed CPU so not sure what he was talking about, and it has double the memory as well! No idea what the Pilgrim is, I would guess that is just the internal AT&T code for the Tilt/Kaiser.
I don't get it... how come the 8525 is more expensive than the Tilt?
Also, is the AT&T branded model available with any other contract or perhaps without one?
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Man, I can't believe this! I had no idea a new model was coming so soon, I literally purchased my 8525 3 days ago!! Of course, the sales guy didn't bother to tell me a new model was coming with WM6 and more storage room, even though from what I told him, that would obviously be something of great importance to me. Of course, now I've got a custom WM6 ROM on it, wonder if there's any chance I could exchange it if I flash it back to the original?
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Yes definately.. restore it using the image on the cd that came with it. They have a 30 day return/exchange policy. Go back in there and give your salesman hell for not telling you about the newest one to come out..
Yeah, no problems at all exchanging it for the Tilt! What a nice device this is, I love the black (not so much the silver keys though). Boy AT&T really went nuts with the bloatware though, with the extra memory this device gave them they just loaded all kinds of junk on it. Twice as much base memory, but comes with only about 90 Meg free. Ridiculous. Can't wait until we get some nice cooked ROMs for it! I'd load on the HTC ROM but looks like we still need a fix for the keyboard (probably won't take long!)
As for giving the sales guy a hard time, well, they seem to be as confused by the price as we are. He is still convinced there must be *some* reason they are pricing it below the 8525.
I just bought one too. got $375 while not eligible for upgrade, but did renew contract with AT&T. I had just bought a new 8525 from E-Bay but I think I'll E-Bay it back
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Yeah, no problems at all exchanging it for the Tilt! What a nice device this is, I love the black (not so much the silver keys though). Boy AT&T really went nuts with the bloatware though, with the extra memory this device gave them they just loaded all kinds of junk on it. Twice as much base memory, but comes with only about 90 Meg free. Ridiculous. Can't wait until we get some nice cooked ROMs for it! I'd load on the HTC ROM but looks like we still need a fix for the keyboard (probably won't take long!)
As for giving the sales guy a hard time, well, they seem to be as confused by the price as we are. He is still convinced there must be *some* reason they are pricing it below the 8525.
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Basically, this is the direct replacement. The Blackberry 8820 and 8310 will directly replace their predecessors at the same price point also. My understanding is that not all stores were going to get Tilts immediately, while waiting for the 8525 stock to be depleted
But as far as the device being any slower or lacking over the 8525, the rep you talked to was clueless (or just trying to make sure the 8525s move). The 8525 was nearly perfect. The Tilt is just going to be nearer to nearly perfect, in my opinion.
It has dual processors, so it is actually much faster than the 8525.
The reason it's less expensive is because when AT&T gets new equipment they actually try to push that more rather than worry about clearing old stock.
Being owners when the phone just came out, many have found their New Every 2 to be approaching or already here. When the time comes for the new phone, what device are you leaning toward? Are you staying within the WM arena and going with a Diamond 2 or Touch 2; Webos and Palm Pre; Android and the Hero; or off to the iphone?
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Being owners when the phone just came out, many have found their New Every 2 to be approaching or already here. When the time comes for the new phone, what device are you leaning toward? Are you staying within the WM arena and going with a Diamond 2 or Touch 2; Webos and Palm Pre; Android and the Hero; or off to the iphone?
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Stick with WinMo and just upgrade to a TP2 or similar device (key is a bigger screen, at least 3.5" in the diagonal.)
Iphone or any phone on a non-WinMo operating system is a non-issue. Won't want to do without the Skyfire browser, for starters. The app WMWifiRouter is also important to me (turn phone into a wireless router accessible to multiple devices simultaneously.)
Iphone is too expensive to operate at this point - can't get an Iphone onto my $50 "unlimited everything" prepaid from Boost (Sprint CDMA) with unlimited 3G EVDO data. The same functionality I currently get out of my Titan for $50 a month would cost me around $200 a month on an Iphone plan.
Well I have been thinking about this lately...
My new every two year discount begins in December.
I could still use my Titan and wait for a Windows Mobile 7 device with a keyboard but not sure if I can wait that long.
I could get a Touch Pro 2 even though I wish there was a HD2 Pro instead.
Looking at the Pre and Droid as options too...
It's such a hard decision and hopfully there will be more leaked info on Windows Mobile 7.
Thought about the TP2. Out of stock on the website, not available locally.
Signed up for the Droid emails. We'll see what it's like when it comes out. I need a mainly business focused device (active sync, calendar, contacts), not sure if the Droid will live up to it.
I'm also on the hunt for a new rom to flash to the Titan.. (been on an old dcd rom for a long time now).
Thanks for the reply george.
I am sorta in the same boat segadc. My NE2 is up with verizon. However the Pre, Droid and Hero sparked my curiousity equally as I think I may want to jump from WinMo. The worry for me is apps. In testing a friends new jailbroken iphone, the realm of apps is limitless. The Pre, drois and Hero all have good points about them but the recent info for Pre release on Vz Network is not until early 2010. I would like to see all three fisrt hand before I decide to stay with Vz or make a jump for the iphone.
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Thought about the TP2. Out of stock on the website, not available locally.
Signed up for the Droid emails. .
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Same here. I would have had a TP2 by now if it was ever in stock. Then I started getting info on the droid and I am intrigued.
The business aspect is somewhat less important to me, so I am leaning android at this point. Though I will miss the htc tweaks...
Yeah I signed up for the Droid emails too. If I knew for sure when the first Windows Mobile 7 (with physical QWERTY) is arriving on Verizon, I would definetly stick with Windows Mobile...
Is the TP2 bigger then the Titan? I need to see some size comparisons.
The more I look at the Hero, the more I am a fan I think. I think the days of WinMo may have come to an end. With my NE2 up now and my contract up in Feb...stay with Vz or go to At&T with the iphone. Like I said, I am an app man but the Hero looks rather sweet.
dont buy an iphone
I was in the exact same situation as you. Out of contract and new every 2 available. Plus, VZ took an additional $100.00 off of the cost of any comperable device. I wanted the TP2 in the worst way, but they are unobtainium (except online for $675.00 ), so I got the Imagio, which I was told is an upgraded version of the TP2 without the keyboard. Not true. The TP2 does quite a few things that the Imagio does not.
Comparing the Titan to the TP2, the TP2 feels great in the hand. It is a little on the heavy side, but I like a device that feels solid. The contoured back is very ergonomic and the cooling holes provide for a nice textured feel that doesn't make me think that I'm about to drop it every seven seconds. I especially like the tilting screen. And once you use a phone with a 3.6 inch screen, you will not want to go back to the 2.8 inch on the Titan. Again, sadly the TP2 is not to be found.
The Hero looks good in specs, but so did the Imagio. If the Leo were to be available on VZ, I would certainly give that one a shot. The bottom line is that I am not happy with the Imagio and will most likely send it back. Then I will be right back in that boat with you.
What exactly does the TP2 do that the imagio doesn't?
yeah... Same here. I am ready to NE2 and I am a VIP member so the TP2 would cost 199.99 less 100 NE2 and less 50 for VIP. End cost $49.99 on line only (stores don't give the online discount of 100 or the vip discount). If I could find one. I called tech support and got to the higest level. I was told they have some in stock to replace defective units but not for sale. They wouldn't give me any idea as to when they would be in stock. Then they told me they would look into it and send me an email or txt msg. three days later I got a txt: and I quote "(Verizon Wireless) HTC Touch Pro2 is out of stock. Will no longer be sold. Thank You for choosing Verizon Wireless"
So I guess I wait or jump ship.
I went to youtube and watched reviews for the imagio and the tp2 to compare. I was thinking to go to the imagio. But after watching both reviews, I decided NOT to get the imagio. If you want to watch them yourself type imagio and look for the review part 1 and part 2. Same with the TP2.... I think I'll go take a look at the droid specs.....
Just call everyday. They get small shipments pretty often.
I don't think I was really into the TP2 as I wanted something difft. I was a fan of the Hero previously until I saw Motorola's Droid. Though I need to see actual video reviews of the phone and test it out before I buy it, the Droid may be the way I go. I guess we will wait and see.
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What exactly does the TP2 do that the imagio doesn't?
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The biggest thing for me is that the Imagio does not support the video out function. Everybody that I have talked to at VZW and HTC say that "It appears as though the Imagio should support video via accessory cable interface." "Looks" and "should" don't get the picture on my PICO.
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"(Verizon Wireless) HTC Touch Pro2 is out of stock. Will no longer be sold. Thank You for choosing Verizon Wireless"
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I've read this rumor all over the place. Currently they are instock online and in some stores. Why would Verizon discontinue an item that is under such a high demand. My NE2 is up in 2 weeks. I almost got a rep to give it to me early. Anyways, I'll be getting the TP2, unless something changes in 2 weeks.
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I've read this rumor all over the place. Currently they are instock online and in some stores. Why would Verizon discontinue an item that is under such a high demand. My NE2 is up in 2 weeks. I almost got a rep to give it to me early. Anyways, I'll be getting the TP2, unless something changes in 2 weeks.
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If you can get the TP2, more power to you. For some reason, VZW says (online and in person) that they are out of stock and will not be getting any more. What part of the country are you in? Another user was able to find one in a San Francisco area store. You say that they are available online. When I go online (signed in or acting as a new customer) it says "NEW!" "out of stock".
Scratch that! I just went on Verizon's web site (I usually check it three of four times a day) and it shows the TP2 in stock!
Hmmm. Well, I think I'll be staying with the 6800 for a bit longer. I've looked at the new stuff, but the problem with the TP2 is that it hasn't got a port for an external antenna and where I work, if you don't have an external antenna, you aren't getting out.
Likewise, I like being able to use my phone as a modem for my laptop. Can't do that on the new Verizon phones, at least as far as I've seen (nor can I seem to get Vista to let me do it on my new laptop, but that's another issue.) The new phones are made for people who work in places where cell coverage is ubiquitous - and that's just not my situation.
For the above reason, obviously the iPhone is out too - though I have a patent loathing for the condescending Apple that precludes such a purchase anyway.
you can use something like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4170499 to tether with most new phones.
I guess the external antenna is a downfall. But you could just buy a cell phone repeater amp and not need to plug something into your phone everyday. and you could walk around eaiser.
That's a thought - though I already had the antenna.
There's another link I can use! Thanks! This site is a goldmine of info!
Is the ATT Pure gone? I am looking to add a line to my plan, and cannot find them anywhere. ATT has them on the website, but only refurbs and only for new customers (free). Amazon has them online for new accounts and upgrades, but they don't do add a line transactions.
Am I missing something? Is there a replacement for this phone coming out? My wife likes the Tilt 2 that I just got, but thought the physical keyboard was not needed... that led me naturally to the Pure.
im existing and it shows up for me .
I spoke with AT&T this morning. The refurbs are only available to new customers due to limited supply. They also said that I could order it as a new customer and transfer it over to my existing family plan without any problem or cost.
The said that the phone is still listed as a available phone, but they have no stock and do not know if/when they will be getting them in. O'well. I guess it will be a refurb for me.
Read this thread from FEBRUARY: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637163
I did order the phone. I was planning on doing the $100 HTC trade up rebate, but it is not good on refurb phone purchases. But since there was no actual cost to the phone no big deal. I get to keep the tilt as a spare. On my TP2 purchase last week, I am sending in a Treo that was collecting dust and getting my $100 rebate.
I don't care if the phone is old (which it is not really) or not selling well. It does what I want it to do. It has no real replacement, and definitely the right cost. I upgraded 2 smart phones and the total cost will be -$50. Not a bad deal at all.
2 Tilt 2's would have been o.k. but the wife did not want/need the physical keyboard. Plus I could see a day when we would grab the wrong phones on the way to work and then be screwed.
LetsTalk.com has them along with Wirefly.com. Both available under the add a line program. Cost depends on your timing, they run them NIB for free MOST of the time, but have seen them listed for about $50 US.
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LetsTalk.com has them along with Wirefly.com. Both available under the add a line program. Cost depends on your timing, they run them NIB for free MOST of the time, but have seen them listed for about $50 US.
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I did not see them there. The only HTC that came up for AT&T was the tilt 2. I do believe they are gone, (or going away quickly). Not to be selfish but, I got mine.... or at least it is coming.... since it is coming Us Postal Service, I have a great hope for it to show up on saturday.
I can see the problem. my wife on Wed said that she would prefer the one without the keyboard. Then after she found out that it might not be available, she was o.k. with going tilt 2 as an option instead. I can see that conversation occurring throughout the country. In this case however the tilt 2 (new) was $199 vs the Pure (refurb) at $0. I am pretty sure I made the right choice.
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I did not see them there. The only HTC that came up for AT&T was the tilt 2. I do believe they are gone, (or going away quickly). Not to be selfish but, I got mine.... or at least it is coming.... since it is coming Us Postal Service, I have a great hope for it to show up on saturday.
I can see the problem. my wife on Wed said that she would prefer the one without the keyboard. Then after she found out that it might not be available, she was o.k. with going tilt 2 as an option instead. I can see that conversation occurring throughout the country. In this case however the tilt 2 (new) was $199 vs the Pure (refurb) at $0. I am pretty sure I made the right choice.
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Wow.. I knew ATT was pulling them out of their stores but it seems EVERYONE is now. I've seen ATT pull phones before and places like Wirefly have them still 6 months later. I just checked on them 2 days or so ago when MY wife was eyeballing MY Pure..
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Wow.. I knew ATT was pulling them out of their stores but it seems EVERYONE is now. I've seen ATT pull phones before and places like Wirefly have them still 6 months later. I just checked on them 2 days or so ago when MY wife was eyeballing MY Pure..
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As of thursday morning AMAZON was the only one who had them. They wanted 0.01 for a new line and $80 for an upgrade.
Amazon does not do the add a line, and phones purchased though them cannot be combined with an existing family account (like you can with att's own phones) without a $250 penalty within the first 6 months. ATT tracks by device ID, as long as the device is activated, they don't care how. Amazon get their comission based on account number. If you do the new account option, then try to combine the accounts, you will lose the new account number and be fined.
If you did upgrade by the end of May, you could do the HTC trade up rebate if you have an old device to send in and get $100 back. Then the phone would be -$20...even free shipping.
They did say that stock levels were low for the pure.
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As of thursday morning AMAZON was the only one who had them. They wanted 0.01 for a new line and $80 for an upgrade.
Amazon does not do the add a line, and phones purchased though them cannot be combined with an existing family account (like you can with att's own phones) without a $250 penalty within the first 6 months. ATT tracks by device ID, as long as the device is activated, they don't care how. Amazon get their comission based on account number. If you do the new account option, then try to combine the accounts, you will lose the new account number and be fined.
If you did upgrade by the end of May, you could do the HTC trade up rebate if you have an old device to send in and get $100 back. Then the phone would be -$20...even free shipping.
They did say that stock levels were low for the pure.
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Ebay had some friday.. got busy and didn't get a chance to come here and post on it. Some of those dealers offer add a line. It's gonna suck if I ever have to do a phone swap though and no one has new ones. I love my Pure the way it is now. The stock ROM bites but the Energy is rockin'. A friend had a refurbed phone from ATT and whenever it got hot here his screen would fog up from internal moisture.
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Ebay had some friday.. got busy and didn't get a chance to come here and post on it. Some of those dealers offer add a line. It's gonna suck if I ever have to do a phone swap though and no one has new ones. I love my Pure the way it is now. The stock ROM bites but the Energy is rockin'. A friend had a refurbed phone from ATT and whenever it got hot here his screen would fog up from internal moisture.
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I have had some good luck with refurbs, but of course there are some horror stories. In this case I am sure that the cost saving will be worth it. The way I am upgrading and shuffling phones around, it will leave me with 1 line with an upgrade option on it. This will give me a chance to be able to replace any phone that breaks out of warranty in the coming months. Keeps the insurance cost down to zero.
First thing you do with any phone you get, new or refurb is check the white patch under the battery to make sure it is NOT pink in any way. That is the indication that the phone has been wet.
I love my Pure. Actually since me buying mine, my good friend and also my father have made the jump too. Its a pretty good touchscreen phone that is feels just the right size. I hope you all are successful in your attempts to get your hands on one. We knew they were going to get pulled months ago because of the low sales (wtf). I guess most people prefer the TP2 (meh).
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I love my Pure. Actually since me buying mine, my good friend and also my father have made the jump too. Its a pretty good touchscreen phone that is feels just the right size. I hope you all are successful in your attempts to get your hands on one. We knew they were going to get pulled months ago because of the low sales (wtf). I guess most people prefer the TP2 (meh).
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I just got it and after a long 40 minutes on the phone with at&t the did all the juggling on my account and got it working. (even got them to waive the activation fee).
So far so good. I am charging it now, so that I can flash it to the (same) energy rom that I have on my tilt 2.
The battery in the Pure was draining the website so they stopped selling it :|
So I totally dropped my phone and shattered my screen today. The phone worked for about an hour then it died. I charged it and when I turned it back on and tried to use it, the screen totally got screwed up and I couldnt do anything.
Its pretty bogus that TMO wants me to pay them another $130 for a replacement phone and if I dont return the broken phone within 15 days, they will charge me another $300.
My GF doesnt really like hers. The APPs are way too expensive. I think she might be going back to her G1. Im seriously thinking about a Nexus One, but would have to dish out another $279 for that phone.
Im torn, i like the phone but Ive had so many issues with service, dropped calls and things not working like they should.
what are your thoughts? Ill try and take a pic of the screen with my GFs cam at some point.
Thanks for listening.
Jason
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So I totally dropped my phone and shattered my screen today. The phone worked for about an hour then it died. I charged it and when I turned it back on and tried to use it, the screen totally got screwed up and I couldnt do anything.
Its pretty bogus that TMO wants me to pay them another $130 for a replacement phone and if I dont return the broken phone within 15 days, they will charge me another $300.
My GF doesnt really like hers. The APPs are way too expensive. I think she might be going back to her G1. Im seriously thinking about a Nexus One, but would have to dish out another $279 for that phone.
Im torn, i like the phone but Ive had so many issues with service, dropped calls and things not working like they should.
what are your thoughts? Ill try and take a pic of the screen with my GFs cam at some point.
Thanks for listening.
Jason
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Wow, sorry to hear that man Did you manage to shatter it even with the rubberized case that came with it still on? I have mine on there at all times, but I'm still terrfied I'm gonna do exactly what you did.
If I were in your exact situation right now, I'd take your gf's HD2, and get her a mytouch slide. You get another chance with what can truly be an awesome phone, and she gets the latest android phone tmo has (or will have very soon) with a hardware qwerty....and, maybe even less out of pocket than the other options.
Sorry to hear that...That's exactly what I'm afraid also. Just texted the wife telling her to take care of that beauty cause one drop and it's gone
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Wow, sorry to hear that man Did you manage to shatter it even with the rubberized case that came with it still on? I have mine on there at all times, but I'm still terrfied I'm gonna do exactly what you did.
If I were in your exact situation right now, I'd take your gf's HD2, and get her a mytouch slide. You get another chance with what can truly be an awesome phone, and she gets the latest android phone tmo has (or will have very soon) with a hardware qwerty....and, maybe even less out of pocket than the other options.
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How can the HD2 be a powerful phone with all the problems it has? Ive had it replaced already because of the shotty service I was getting in places I had great service with my G1. Even with the flashing of several different ROMs, the phone froze all the time. The only problem with getting her one of the MyTouch Slides is that we used our upgrade eligibility to get the HD2's, so we would have to pay FULL price for the phone. She does really miss the Android market.
Yes, had the rubber case on it, but it landed on the corner of the screen. The rubber case doesnt go over the screen.
So whats the deal with TMO getting the crap end of the stick with phones these days?
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How can the HD2 be a powerful phone with all the problems it has? Ive had it replaced already because of the shotty service I was getting in places I had great service with my G1. Even with the flashing of several different ROMs, the phone froze all the time. The only problem with getting her one of the MyTouch Slides is that we used our upgrade eligibility to get the HD2's, so we would have to pay FULL price for the phone. She does really miss the Android market.
Yes, had the rubber case on it, but it landed on the corner of the screen. The rubber case doesnt go over the screen.
So whats the deal with TMO getting the crap end of the stick with phones these days?
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Well, it has been for me and others as well...since you were asking, I thought you were saying you thought it might be worth another chance. Did you get a chance to try the new upgrade from Tmo?
I was confused too, when you said you'd have to pay $279 for the N1...I thought that indicated you had an upgrade available to you yet.
And yes, I did notice that the rubber case doesn't go over the screen. I was asking because without that it's possible to have the screen shatter even if the impact point isn't on the face of it.
I just havent had the best luck with this phone. Seems like it has lots of potential but its not fairing very well so far. The $279 was a price I pulled from the site. I dobubt TMO would take their phone back and give me some kind of credit on a different phone even with the phone insurance. Hell TMO doesnt even sell the N1.
What new upgrade are you referring too? Was it an upgrade to the stock rom? Ive been using a flashed ROM, so didnt see that there was an upgrade available.
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I just havent had the best luck with this phone. Seems like it has lots of potential but its not fairing very well so far. The $279 was a price I pulled from the site. I dobubt TMO would take their phone back and give me some kind of credit on a different phone even with the phone insurance. Hell TMO doesnt even sell the N1.
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That's correct, you have to just take the replacement phone of the same model, since it's done through the insurance company totally independent of tmo...they're just the ones who sold you the policy. I honestly was under the impression that the deductible was $100 for the HD2, but if they told you $130 then it must be $130.
I think that the $279 price for the N1 is for new lines and maybe upgrades, but it's honestly been a while since I priced it out.
If you end up deciding to get your HD2 replaced for now, feel free to PM me if you want and I'll do whatever I can to help you avoid having so many issues this time.
What new upgrade are you referring too? Was it an upgrade to the stock rom? Ive been using a flashed ROM, so didnt see that there was an upgrade available.
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LOL That's funny because just 5 minutes before I saw your post I was having a conversation with one of the moderators about how there had been a rediculous number of new threads started in the past 48 hours about the new Tmo ROM update
It was pretty much known that it was coming soon, and a couple of days ago somebody found a backdoor to the file on tmo's servers, before they had announced it. A bunch of people (m'self included) grabbed it right away, but it now looks like tmo has pulled the old switcheroo and substitued some oddball incompatible ROM in it's place for the time being (from the Dash, or something equally goofy). Hopefully they'll greenlight it officially soon...this exact thing happend with the tmo TP2 upgrade earlier this year too. I'll be happy to get you a copy, if you have an easy way to transfer a 200MB file You can check out the threads here in the general section about it, there's a lot of reports of what's different, etc.
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That's correct, you have to just take the replacement phone of the same model, since it's done through the insurance company totally independent of tmo...they're just the ones who sold you the policy. I honestly was under the impression that the deductible was $100 for the HD2, but if they told you $130 then it must be $130.
I think that the $279 price for the N1 is for new lines and maybe upgrades, but it's honestly been a while since I priced it out.
If you end up deciding to get your HD2 replaced for now, feel free to PM me if you want and I'll do whatever I can to help you avoid having so many issues this time.
LOL That's funny because just 5 minutes before I saw your post I was having a conversation with one of the moderators about how there had been a rediculous number of new threads started in the past 48 hours about the new Tmo ROM update
It was pretty much known that it was coming soon, and a couple of days ago somebody found a backdoor to the file on tmo's servers, before they had announced it. A bunch of people (m'self included) grabbed it right away, but it now looks like tmo has pulled the old switcheroo and substitued some oddball incompatible ROM in it's place for the time being (from the Dash, or something equally goofy). Hopefully they'll greenlight it officially soon...this exact thing happend with the tmo TP2 upgrade earlier this year too. I'll be happy to get you a copy, if you have an easy way to transfer a 200MB file You can check out the threads here in the general section about it, there's a lot of reports of what's different, etc.
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That does kind of suck that I cant get a different phone. Oh well. I may still purchase the replacement phone. The N1 price was for eligible upgrades.
Thanks for the offering of help. I read one of the threads saying it was a Dash file now. Damn TMO. I only read the one thread. Didnt seem like much was different. Have you tried 4shared dot com to upload the ROM too? So since its not "official" than it has to be flashed? But if it were official then it would get sent to the phone from TMO?
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That does kind of suck that I cant get a different phone. Oh well. I may still purchase the replacement phone. The N1 price was for eligible upgrades.
Thanks for the offering of help. I read one of the threads saying it was a Dash file now. Damn TMO. I only read the one thread. Didnt seem like much was different. Have you tried 4shared dot com to upload the ROM too? So since its not "official" than it has to be flashed? But if it were official then it would get sent to the phone from TMO?
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Actually, our handy-dandy moderator zelendel has created a link where you can grab it if you want to check it out: Tmo HD2 ROM upgrade
Now, one of the underlying differences between WM and Android is that any updates to WM must be applied manually, even official ones. They come in the form of a full ROM upgrade, not in "patches"...and they're never OTA or direct to the phone. Official carrier or manufacturer issued ROM updates are applied by you running a .exe file on your PC desktop that handles all the flashing for you, over USB. Custom ROMs of course have a more involved/complicated process.
This upgrade at that link has the usual "offical update" installer....but Tmo has obviously decided to hold off on letting us have sanctioned access to it just yet. But, the one they finally release will likely be very close to this one we're playing with now.
Thanks for the link and the information. After using the G1 phone for week, I quickly remembered why I didnt want that phone anymore. So last thursday, I ended up ordering a phone from the "insurance". The phone came today. My GF says, they sent me an complete phone package, with case, battery, ear piece, manual and alls I got to do is send back the phone.
I wonder if the phone comes with the update on it already!
I probably wont be able to play with it until tonight, more than likely tomorrow though. Im swamped at work and will more than likely work late tonight.
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Actually, our handy-dandy moderator zelendel has created a link where you can grab it if you want to check it out: Tmo HD2 ROM upgrade
Now, one of the underlying differences between WM and Android is that any updates to WM must be applied manually, even official ones. They come in the form of a full ROM upgrade, not in "patches"...and they're never OTA or direct to the phone. Official carrier or manufacturer issued ROM updates are applied by you running a .exe file on your PC desktop that handles all the flashing for you, over USB. Custom ROMs of course have a more involved/complicated process.
This upgrade at that link has the usual "offical update" installer....but Tmo has obviously decided to hold off on letting us have sanctioned access to it just yet. But, the one they finally release will likely be very close to this one we're playing with now.
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I snagged the update on the first go around the leaked version and let me tell you it has worked wonders!!!! it has been about two weeks and I have not had the Sleep Screen of Death or any of my other issues! I read about complaints when people downloaded the official one on the 18th but it looks likes they pulled that one because they where having more issues than it fixed?!
So is the moderator link the "official" download, or the leaked version?
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So is the moderator link the "official" download, or the leaked version?
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It the same one I pulled from the T-mobile site before it was removed.
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It the same one I pulled from the T-mobile site before it was removed.
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Cool, so its not the broken latest version...woohoo!
It's the same one. There is no difference between the one that was leaked and the one that was removed from T-mobiles website this weekend.
so why am I hearing/reading conflicting reports, some say its great, others say more stuff is broken.
Because not everyone uses their phone in the same way or with the same expectations. I upgraded this past weekend and haven't had any problems but I also haven't opened up every app and setting to look for everything that has changed. YMMV
In just about two days the WP7 is coming out. Who all is planning on getting one Monday?
Maybe just to get some free Katy Perry tickets (im currently in nyc but dont live here).
Anyways it would be nice to get it ASAP since my current wm 6.5 is falling apart. The FB app stop working and now the AP too.
Also everyday it gets more slugish and bugy etc. I'm tired of it.
I think the Focus will have a very nice display, but not sure about the plastic exterior. I'll be getting a Venue Pro, but that's also because I'm with T-Mobile. So my only choices are HD7 and VP. HTC has been cutting too many corners this time, so they will not be getting my money until higher quality phones start getting produced by them again.
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I think the Focus will have a very nice display, but not sure about the plastic exterior. I'll be getting a Venue Pro, but that's also because I'm with T-Mobile. So my only choices are HD7 and VP. HTC has been cutting too many corners this time, so they will not be getting my money until higher quality phones start getting produced by them again.
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i'm on t mobile too but since i'm 90% of the time have wifi so i'm probably going to wait and get the focus if it can be unlocked or the venue pro
Getting the phone yet bummed my 32GB Mico SD has been delayed shipping from an Amazon supplier. Wanted to load the phone right off the bat with maximum memory too.
EDITED: Decied to cancel the Class 2 32GB and get the Class 6 16GB
Ill have one Monday or possibly Sunday since that's when the AT&T stores actually get the phones. The guy at the store said he would call me Sunday when the phones arrive but I have my doubts.
I'm leaving sprint and HTC evo to try one out.
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Ill have one Monday or possibly Sunday since that's when the AT&T stores actually get the phones. The guy at the store said he would call me Sunday when the phones arrive but I have my doubts.
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Strange they would get them on Sunday. Didn't know there were companies that did deliveries on Sunday. I went to the local Best Buy mobile yesterday and they already had the Surround. He hadn't even heard of the Focus.
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Strange they would get them on Sunday. Didn't know there were companies that did deliveries on Sunday. I went to the local Best Buy mobile yesterday and they already had the Surround. He hadn't even heard of the Focus.
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I'll chime in on that - I plan on being there first thing Monday, but I will call tomorrow to see if they'll sell early. I've been calling since Thursday since that's when the Captivate was being sold early, but they've been pretty adamant about not selling these early. When I did call, they mentioned I could pick it up on Sunday, but when I went into the store today, both the regional manager and store manager said I'd have to wait. I'll just call tomorrow and see who's working
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I'll chime in on that - I plan on being there first thing Monday, but I will call tomorrow to see if they'll sell early. I've been calling since Thursday since that's when the Captivate was being sold early, but they've been pretty adamant about not selling these early. When I did call, they mentioned I could pick it up on Sunday, but when I went into the store today, both the regional manager and store manager said I'd have to wait. I'll just call tomorrow and see who's working
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I called one of the stores today and they had the Focus but wouldn't sell. Dropped by Best Buy and they showed me the Surrounds, but they didn't even know when they would get the Focus. Sucks because I think I could have one if they had them. I'll try to get one from a retail AT&T tomorrow. If not, I'm going to be late for work Monday
Does anyone know what GPS chip is getting put in this phone. If it is the same one that they put in their Galaxy S phones I'm going to have to pass. I have a Captivate and the GPS is worthless.
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Does anyone know what GPS chip is getting put in this phone. If it is the same one that they put in their Galaxy S phones I'm going to have to pass. I have a Captivate and the GPS is worthless.
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I've seen a lot of people concerned about that as well. All the reviews I've seen said it's much better than the Galaxy phones. So I assume its a different chipset or better drivers.
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I've seen a lot of people concerned about that as well. All the reviews I've seen said it's much better than the Galaxy phones. So I assume its a different chipset or better drivers.
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I believe it's different also since this hardware is completely different that the SGS phones. Also, Bill Gates is using it, so I'd assume it'd work or he'd be on a different phone
Just got mine...
Just home from the AT&T store.
Got a $100 "loyalty" discount, a 20% percent discount on the 32 gig memory card, (final price of $110) and 2 usb cords. Total cost out the door is $248.
The salespeople in the store knew nothing about the phone. They were asking me questions about it.
I was the first person to ask for one today.
kbanes
^^ So, they didn't wait for the 8th? How long have you been with AT&T? Let us know how you find it.
I think ill wait for the Quantum. My XDA At&t brothers look at us all gather around anticipating these devices lol.
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^^ So, they didn't wait for the 8th? How long have you been with AT&T? Let us know how you find it.
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I'm guessing he got lucky - I called 3 stores today, and none would give it out today. This includes the primary AT&T store in Houston.
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I'm guessing he got lucky - I called 3 stores today, and none would give it out today. This includes the primary AT&T store in Houston.
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Yep, I was even given a time tomorrow that they'll be allowed to give them out - 3 p.m. Not sure if I buy that, but he did say I was the only person who even asked
They didn't act like it was any big deal. I asked for one, and he just went into the back of the store and got it.
I had gone in last Wednesday to ask if they had the approved microsd card, and they said that they didn't have anything in the store yet, but that I could come in on Sunday and pick up the phone.
I'm having trouble with Zune. I can't get Zune to see the phone when I plug it into the computer. I don't know if it is because I already have a Zune 80 assigned to the computer or not.
Other than that, it is pretty snazzy.
I've been with AT&T for several years. 10 maybe? They weren't AT&T at the time...
Hey Kbanes,
What type of micro SDHC card did ATT sell you?