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So many purchase problems, now I am thinking iphone

I have tried unsuccessfully to purchase a Wing twice now. Last night I made a bid on a third one, however so much time has passed since I have been trying to get one that I am now out of time. I lost my phone last week and need a new one by Wednesday. In order to get my phone I will have to overnight it for early arrival on Wednesday. The total cost now puts me close to 400 which is the neighborhood of an iphone. When the iphone first came out I swore it was the phone for me but I wasn’t going to spend 600 for it. They have dropped in price to 399 for the 8 gig phone. I am going to have to unlock the phone though for T-mobile service which scares me a bit. I kept pretty close tabs on the whole unlock the iphone saga when it was first being done and it seemed that there was a pretty high failure rate at that time. A quick check on eBay reveals that there are a plethora of unlocked iphones for sale which tells me that they have perfected the process. So now I am at a cross roads. I can get the iphone tomorrow from an Apple store or AT&T’s stores. The Wing will have to be sent overnight if I can convince the seller to drop everything and run down to a FedEx office. So given the pros and cons of the purchase I see a pretty close match. Maybe I should be looking at the phones themselves. The processor on the iphone is way more powerful and so is the storage space. The thing I don’t like about the iphone is that it’s a mac which means I may have issues getting software for it on the open market. Then again it’s a seriously popular device and people may be writing all sorts of tools and software for it. It doesn’t have a dedicated keyboard either which I liked about the wing. So given the choice, should I seriously stick with the Wing or should I make the switch to the iphone? Opinions count but I would like to hear some concrete facts about the differences if I am to make a logical decision. Thanks in advance.

Have you considered you can walk into a Tmobile Store and get a wing for $349?
You talk about walking into an Apple Store vs. having a Wing shipped to you.... and that seems to be the deciding factor on which phone you're going to get. If you walk into a Tmobile store, you can get a Wing for $350 plus tax .... and if you walk into an Apple store, you can get an iPhone for $399 plus tax.

actually I cant get the wing for 349. It's a real pisser and if that was true I would have done that a week ago. I lost my phone (V3 Razor) about a week ago. The first thought that came to mind was go to T-mobile and get a new phone. My second thought was to upgrade into something like the Wing. I didn't know it existed at the time, but I thought that it would be a nice iPhone substitute at 350 since I believed the iphone to be 600. As it turns out I am 10 months away from my contract ending with T-mobile. I am 8 months away from qualifying for any T-mobile phone rebates. The Wing is 499 retail with 100 instant rebate and 50 mail in all of which require 2 additional years of contract. T-mobile will not allow me to extend my contract until I am 2 months or less from my current contract expiration. So to that end and to your point, the phone is not 350 to me it is 499 to me. That is why I started my search on eBay. I thought then as I think now, I can get a better deal on the Wing through eBay. However, I had the damnedest luck on this particular auction. I bid and won my first auction about 5 days ago and have not heard 1 word from the seller regarding the close of the auction. I believe he died and luckily I hadn't sent him any money. Maybe someday I will hear from the guy but at this point he wont respond to any emails nor has he complained about me not paying for the auction. I decided to try again and won a second auction for 255 on the wing. Great deal I thought until I actually paid for the auction only to find out that he already sold the phone to another party as well as collecting payment from me too. Now I have to deal with that big pile of crap but I still need a phone. So here I am needing to win yet another auction for my wing or I can just go to an At&t store and pick up the iphone.

Tough decision to make, one that i considered also. A couple of things to note first is:
Longevity: Remember iphone 2.0 is already in the works and might drop by the end of next year. Also remember T-Mobile's 3g service should start seeing implementation beginning next year. So now the question is, how long are you planning on keeping this phone? Another thing to consider is resale value if you opt to get another phone next year. I would assume an iphone in great condition should have a higher resale value over time than the wing.
Specs: iPhone is more powerful than Wing and also has more storage, has a multitouch display that is larger and with higher resolution.
UI and OS: iPhone beats Wing hands down for STOCK UI and OS, athough it is an unfair advantage. Apple made OSX on the iPhone from the ground up. It only has one platform to work with whereas WM6 is created to be cross-platform and work for different SP, PPC, and PDA that all have different specs and components. Although the dev comm definitely did an outstanding job of making wm6 more user friendly, and with upgrades to wm6 like Shadows's UI and Android around the corner, we'll see how this develops.
Dev. Community: Apple is releasing a SDK for iPhone early next year, so you should start seeing software for iPhone given enough time. Wing has an established dev comm as you can see - xda (The best!), modaco, howardforums, and others.
Apple vs. Microsoft: Which is the lesser of two evils?
Warranty: unlock your iPhone and you just voided your warranty. At least with wing something happens to it, you should be able to have T-Mobile help you in some way. At least, i would think.
Personally, i'm happy with my Wing. It might be no iPhone, but then again no other is. It's the little device that could, and while there are more powerful phones on the market, it still holds it own. Plus i like the idea that i can abuse it more than the iPhone. I feel HTC makes quality phones and i can't wait to see if T-Mobile releases HTC Touch Cruise for its 3g service (please, please, please). Plus, it's not a F'ing Sidekick! lol.

Unless you are in dire need of a pda phone right now, i would buy a cheap phone for the time and wait until the next round of pda phones come out. Take a look at the ATT tilt, for instance, much more powerful than the wing and im sure we'll see a price drop pretty quick.

Have you considered this?
http://www.fatwallet.org/forums/messageview.php?catid=18&threadid=733578
This is where I bought my wing, when the price was $49 after rebate, now it's $79 with free bluetooth headphone. You do need to sign-up another one year contract (no activation fee, free 2-day shipping) with Tmobile though, but you can combine your twon lines to a family plan and save some $$.

contract
unless you are within 2 months of your current contract expiring, you can not renew your contract with tmobile. Your account must be 60 days to contract expiration before you can get any rebates or discounts applied to your phone. I have mentioned that twice so far. It's a very important tip to pass on and to keep in mind with your own upgrade decisions in the future. If I qualified for any sort of assistance I would have bought the wing long ago.
FYI..I ended up with 3 failed auctions for the wing. Very strange situatation to say the least. In the end I went with the iphone but I am starting to wonder if that was a wise choice considering all the trouble I have had with it over the last week. I attempted for 48 hours straight to hack the iphone for use on t-mobile service. Apple has released an update sometime last month that pretty much locks the phone down for the next couple of weeks or months. Someone will surely figure out a way around it but for now its damn near impossible. I decided to sign up with att service and only after a week of fooling with this phone did I finally get it working today. About 6 hours after finally getting the phone up and running did I discover that it doesnt have VOIP support. Now at first glance that might seem like a meaningless attribute but this was the primary reason for me starting this little adventure of phone upgrading. I am going to start a new thread because I have more to tell and need help in making a choice.

if you use your phone almost like laptop then you won't like the iPhone. You will for for a little while till the wow factor wares off. It's definately pretty and very nice with all its tricks but the simple things it cant do. Some 3rd party apps attempt to fix this but it doesnt work all too well.
You'll take things for granted such as browsing to a site to download something and email it as an attatchment to someone or yourself.

Before android there was...

Well out of curiosity before android where did most of you come from? I myself previously had windows and sidekick devices. I want to know why you made the change if you guys want to discuss it and what you miss about your former platform... For example, Blackberry users might miss all the push email ... I have a friend who has a blackberry and he seems to think he cannot have a good experience with android because it doesn't automatically support push for other email accounts... any one went through the same thing?

Well you can tell your friedn that android does support push now.

I used to be on the old Symbian 60 platform on Nokia smart phones, Nokia N-Gage QD to be exact. That is where my lust for smart phones kicked off.

Before Android I used to be a smartphone virgin. I always went with whatever "free" (read: heavily subsidized) handset the carrier was offering with the 2-year subscriptions. Once I had a chance to play with a co-worker's G1, I knew what my next phone would be.
As fate would have it my crappy flip-phone died a few months back. I went to a local retailer, shelled out the full $400 for an unlocked G1, added the $15 basic data plan to my AT&T account, and never looked back.

Came from...
Sanyos
Audiovox9800(best phone verizon EVER had)
Treo 600
Treo 650
BB
Ocean(Used to work at Helio)
Shadow(had for 2 days!! hate that keyboard!!!)
7Dashes(Kept screwing up)
Wing
My baby(G1)

lame phones!
Well to be honest the g1 is my first smart phone. B4 that I had mid line phones. U know not cheap but not expensive. I wanted an iPhone but when I say the promo site for it I reserved it for the partial discount price. But as fate would have it I had to cancel. See I have a oil heater at home and we all know its expensive to fill up. So I was sad for a bit but after seeing 2 of my friends with the g1 I said wth and ordered it again. And this time tmo gave me the full discount because I have been a costomer for over 8 years! When I got it I fell in love. **** the iphone. LONG LIVE ANDROID!

first smartphone was
Blackberry pearl 8100 tmobile(scroll ball problems)
tmobile wing(water damage)
tmobile shadow(cracked screen)
unlocked 8525(screen went white)
unlocked tilt (8925) with duttythroy rom loaded up(sold it for 150 and walked back into the mall and said i wanted to upgrade to g1 =)
and now g1 with 2.7.3 jachero.
when i had my tilt, i missed the blackberry push email and the trackball.dpad gets annoying at times.
but i love the skyfire browser and vtap on windowsmobile.. vtap on android kinda blows since it only looking up youtube vids.. and flash content on the skyfire browser was a beaut. i wish the hero rom flash capabilities could compare to skyfire =(

The T-Mobile Shadow. The Original, not that new one.

This is the "friend" he spoke off on the first post..
This is the real issue down here: read what I wrote below.
I'm not sick of BlackBerry (BB). I love the whole package.
But I would like to have other options and recently I've noticed that WinMo/Android and basically no other operating system comes with the whole package as well integrated as a BB. And this is bothersome to me because at this rate I'm stuck with BB.
Guys is it possible to have at least 5 email accounts setup on a Android device (or WinMo)? Will it work as good as my BB does (AKA. Push E-mail)?
If not then what steps can I take to acquire said features (on an Android or WinMo device)? I'm willing to pay a MAX monthly fee of $30 if I have to. Which is what I'm actually paying BB at the moment for the whole "BlackBerry" thing.

newjaruz said:
Well out of curiosity before android where did most of you come from? I myself previously had windows and sidekick devices. I want to know why you made the change if you guys want to discuss it and what you miss about your former platform... For example, Blackberry users might miss all the push email ... I have a friend who has a blackberry and he seems to think he cannot have a good experience with android because it doesn't automatically support push for other email accounts... any one went through the same thing?
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By the way I don't think I won't have a good experience with Android. I've seen what the OS and UI behave like. I like it.
Read my post above and U'll understand what this is about. It's about me becoming so organized that I refuse to leave this unless I'm 100% sure there is a equal substitute in the platform I'm going to.

went from
some random samsung phone (one of those really ghetto clamshell ones that refuse to break)
to a nokia 6265, which was a great phone, but it got stolen
to a moto krzr red, the only one that was impossible to hack T.T
to a samsung sgh-d807, which i found on the ground in the snow after my krzr's screen cracked,
to my rogers htc dream

Chahk said:
Before Android I used to be a smartphone virgin. I always went with whatever "free" (read: heavily subsidized) handset the carrier was offering with the 2-year subscriptions. Once I had a chance to play with a co-worker's G1, I knew what my next phone would be.
As fate would have it my crappy flip-phone died a few months back. I went to a local retailer, shelled out the full $400 for an unlocked G1, added the $15 basic data plan to my AT&T account, and never looked back.
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This, minus the unlocked G1/ATT. Got it for my birthday in November.

first I had random samsungs and lg's just for the camera's and cool ringtones.
moved to an audiovox smt 5600( i think it was actually an Htc) coolest cheap phone ever!
samsung black jack... sucked couldnt even watch movies on it.
2g iphone ..no mms and no video recorder mode until modded. I hated the fact that apple had so much control.
Now loving the G1

Well I've been through several smartphones, lets see: 1) nokia 3620 2) htc c500 3) htc c600 4) htc dream. Definitely like android more than winmo or s60. I've also played with a few blackberry pearls and detested them, reminds me of the crappy symbian interface without the flexibility. As far as the gentleman wondering about push email on android. Set the gmail account to retrieve emails from your other accounts via pop, if you wish it can leave them on the other mail servers or delete them. Once the mail shows up in gmail it will push to your phone.

Early motorola phone (Dont remember I was 18 with money and influenced by a mall guy ) I never got my free case for it.
Nokia device (liked it cause of the big screen on the outside and could have pics there)
Motorola RAZR V3 Miami Ink Edition (one with dragon on it) I liked this phone and it was a true trooper. A lot of people were having issues with it being so fragile but I beat mine up and it took it with a passion.
And finally my G1. Actually the real reason I wanted it was cause of the Open Source that it featured but I am sure that I was not the only one out there. I will say this I wanted this phone cause I do webdesign and I figured that I could be different from the whole BB society. My only pep peeve is the kids that get the phone for the trend factor and not the modding factor but I guess thats just me

Came from the BB pearl. Greatest choice I've ever made other then beer.

my smart phone life started on a Nokia 6682, but i quickly upgraded to an 8525, and then the tilt the day it camem out. i can't stand to have a non-touch screen phone anymore so i went to t-mo and got the G1, bit of a downgrade on my service as now i only have EDGE but hopefully i can get back to 3G soon. the only way to get me to even look at a phone is to tell me it has a touchscreen and a full hardware qwerty keyboard, i don't care if it's a 4-row or 5-row, but i am liking the keyboard on this phone

I've only had 3 cell phones in my life so far, my first cell phone was the Sanyo SCP-8200 in silver, my second was the Nokia 5610 in white and now I have my very first smart phone...the T-Mobile G1 in white. I made the change because I saw potential in the G1 to be the best and I don't usually ride the band wagon because it's new and everybody's getting it but if it's official and exclusive like the G1 then I'm riding it to the mothasucking wheels fall off but what I do miss from my former cell phones was camera flash.

First phone was a skytel on nextel, then had a grayscale blue moto with a flip up keyboard (forget the name), then v3, v3i, v8 (or something like that merlot slide phone similar to v9), g1.

Before android i had a windows phone the shadow to be exact the original one not that new round one before that i was a samsung fan

Imagio is up on VZ, who's getting one?

I'm tempted to buy one, I did just buy a TP2 though
So who's buying one?

I am going to give back my TP2 today and order one from the store. The better camera is more important to me than the keyboard. I have young kids and the TP2 camera sucks unless I can get them to stay still which isn't possible. Plus the reduced weight will be nice too. I really do like the TP2 as it is the best phone I have used however I think the Imagio will be better for my specific needs.
Update: Well now I read a review that even though it is higher MP the camera still sucks, so maybe I'll stick with my TP2 after all.

To bad your on verizon. I would say get a Touch HD2. It has flash. The 5mp camer on my diamond2 is actually loads better than that on the TP2. It all depends on lighting though.In Good light it's awesome but low light you can't tell a difference between the TP2 and TD2.

Just ordered the Imagio.
Every review I've seen or read said that the camera was tons better on the Imagio when compared with the TP2. The only thing that I don't like is that nobody seems to be working on a Leo Rom for the Imagio!!!!!!! Its killing me! Why do CDMA phones get left out when it comes to ROMS? I even offered $500 for a ROM for the Imagio and am willing to go even higher but....nothing!!!!

i got it anyway
I just ordered it anyway. While I would love to hack it basically the 6.5 ROM with unlocked GPS has everything I need so I can wait on the unlocking. I would imagine since the CDMA TP2 and Imagio have the same specs other than the keyboard/camera that the ROMs will be compatible. Now it will just be the very long wait for the hard spl.

Robes1 said:
Every review I've seen or read said that the camera was tons better on the Imagio when compared with the TP2. The only thing that I don't like is that nobody seems to be working on a Leo Rom for the Imagio!!!!!!! Its killing me! Why do CDMA phones get left out when it comes to ROMS? I even offered $500 for a ROM for the Imagio and am willing to go even higher but....nothing!!!!
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I agree, with you there not much activity in the CDMA Topaz (Imagio) section. I'm going to post a Imagio vs. Pure thread in the Topaz General to see if it draws interest to the Imagio

I decided to skip the keyboard on the TP2 and dive into this one. I didnt use the keyboard my touch pro has as much as i thought i would. Kind of a pain to slide it open every 2 minutes.

Chalk up another one that switched from TP2 to the Imagio (goofy name for a phone). I had the TP2 since launch and I found the phone to be very good. But since I rarely used the keyboard (I hate texting) I found that the Imagio looked sexier and already has 6.5 installed (should not be a issue once the phones are unlocked). There were also problems in some apps that when you wanted to use the keyboard the app would not respond correctly causing me to kill the program and start in landscape mode. In addition I inadvertently activated the slider when pulling the TP2 out of my holster. Plus it should be easier to get a decent aluminum case which was not possible on the TP2 due to the slider design.
Verizon also made it easy for me to swap devices. I was expecting problems but the agent was like OK, which device would you like since your still within your 30 day 100% satisfaction guarantee .

cdmoore74 said:
Verizon also made it easy for me to swap devices. I was expecting problems but the agent was like OK, which device would you like since your still within your 30 day 100% satisfaction guarantee .
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I called VZ last night. They told me I would have to order the IG at full price, then wait up to 2 months for them to receive the TP2, then they would issue the credit.
How "easy" was your experience or even the process explained by the rep?
I would also have to return my TP2 to VZ, no in-store tradebacks since I bought the TP2 online.

syntrix said:
I called VZ last night. They told me I would have to order the IG at full price, then wait up to 2 months for them to receive the TP2, then they would issue the credit.
How "easy" was your experience or even the process explained by the rep?
I would also have to return my TP2 to VZ, no in-store tradebacks since I bought the TP2 online.
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got mine today.. it's really awesome, needless to say.. it is fully loaded with all of the verizon online crap but i have so many proggies from my touch that i'm all set with their v-cast, etc.. as for its operation, it's very smooth and "iphoney" totally new iphone keyboard and everything.. even the winmo core interface is all jacked up.. and it has a 5mp camera, it's super fast, wifi, bluetooth.. just an awesome phone.. get it.. u won't be sorry.

ShakespearesEdge
Sounds Pretty Nice!
Does the GPS work with TomTom, and google maps/bing?

syntrix said:
I called VZ last night. They told me I would have to order the IG at full price, then wait up to 2 months for them to receive the TP2, then they would issue the credit.
How "easy" was your experience or even the process explained by the rep?
I would also have to return my TP2 to VZ, no in-store tradebacks since I bought the TP2 online.
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I tried buying tp2 on release day but the online ordering was not working for me forcing me to call 611. Im guessing different procedure when buying in store vs online vs 611. If you buy in store or 611 they charge an early upgrade fee of $20 which I got waived the first time.

syntrix said:
I called VZ last night. They told me I would have to order the IG at full price, then wait up to 2 months for them to receive the TP2, then they would issue the credit.
How "easy" was your experience or even the process explained by the rep?
I would also have to return my TP2 to VZ, no in-store tradebacks since I bought the TP2 online.
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That's why I always order mine in a store, when I did my TP2 swap it was easy. Not trying to rub it in, just saying next time you way want to consider the store. I was in and out in 10 min.

Oh that's good to know, since the TP2 was never sold in stores.
So you basically had the store order from corporate, and picked it up locally?
Something seems fishy about what they told me, I'll have to call them again about the return/credit/onlinerebate, etc.

syntrix said:
Oh that's good to know, since the TP2 was never sold in stores.
So you basically had the store order from corporate, and picked it up locally?
Something seems fishy about what they told me, I'll have to call them again about the return/credit/onlinerebate, etc.
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You can have them order it at the store even though they don't have it there they ship it to you 2-day for free or overnight for $9.
Same thing I did with Imagio, only problem is I had to give back TP2 when I ordered the Imagio, use a temp phone until I got it, which isn't that big of deal for 1 or 2 days.

syntrix said:
I called VZ last night. They told me I would have to order the IG at full price, then wait up to 2 months for them to receive the TP2, then they would issue the credit.
How "easy" was your experience or even the process explained by the rep?
I would also have to return my TP2 to VZ, no in-store tradebacks since I bought the TP2 online.
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My experience was real pleasant. I sent my phone back in the box it came in, supplied the tracking number and they sent out my Imagio next day air. I was also told I could take it in the store and trade it when the store received the Imagio in stock. As long as you within the 30days from original purchase.

Well I just ordered one should be here by Monday. How do we go about starting a Whitestone/Imagio section to the forum?

Boss428man said:
Well I just ordered one should be here by Monday. How do we go about starting a Whitestone/Imagio section to the forum?
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You are in the right place
I hope you don't have the flutter/echo problem I did with my VZ TP2. I thought it was a fluke at first.

Is the flutter echeo a random bug or is it a problem with all phones?

Boss428man said:
Is the flutter echeo a random bug or is it a problem with all phones?
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There are several reports about it, but with all things internet.... try it!
Maybe it's my area and a few other areas, but I found an article on it tonight, too! Damed if I can find the link again.
Again, you can try it and you have 30 days to return (they give a return shipping label if ordered online VZ). Or apparently if you had the store order it, you can return in the store.
If you ordered online, you can NOT return to the local store. I posted the actual return line for the equipment above.
You will still need to call VZ to cancel the service on their regular cs number.
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I really did like this new 3.6" screen, I'll have to play with ATT's version more when I get mine tomorrow. I don't think it'll be that much different though.

Anyone else looking forward to their next phone?

If so, which phone do you want?
I have had many PDA phones from HTC. I've probably had the Touch the longest out of all of them. I had the Diamond for a couple of months but returned it as the battery lasted only a fraction of the time that my touch did with the same settings. I hear the GSM version didn't have as much of a battery issue as the CDMA version. I currently am running build 6.5 23081 on my Touch and it is the best OS and build so far I've had on it but the phone is missing so many features I would like. While the Touch has served me very well, I'm looking forward to my next model.
I'm on Sprint so my choices are limited but I'm hoping they are considering the HD2 as they have a poll on their web site to find out if people would like it - http://community.sprint.com/baw/poll.jspa?poll=1040
I want the faster processor
I want the bigger screen
I want the flash (as I use vjcandela and other programs to use the phone as a flashlight)
I want the higher resolution
I want the new touch screen
I want the HD2

im buying a blackberry or htc hero this week. im done with winmo.

Well it's rumored that the HTC Dragon is coming to Verizon. I'm going to hold out on getting anything else. The dragon is the android version of the hd2. So i'll be looking at a 1GZ Snapdragon powered Android 2.0 phone with sense ui. I hope it doesn't melt my hands.

zenulator said:
Well it's rumored that the HTC Dragon is coming to Verizon. I'm going to hold out on getting anything else. The dragon is the android version of the hd2. So i'll be looking at a 1GZ Snapdragon powered Android 2.0 phone with sense ui. I hope it doesn't melt my hands.
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yeah but i wonder what the price tag will be? better start saving now zen.

I can't imagine the phone NOT being subsidized in part by the carrier, you know... like everything else they've ever put out - it'll just be close to half a million when it first comes out like it always is.
But yes, I like the touch a lot but I really miss the hardware keyboard on my MotoQ, I am now not only against all screen keyboards, but will never buy another phone that doesn't have a hardware keyboard now.

boe said:
If so, which phone do you want?
I have had many PDA phones from HTC. I've probably had the Touch the longest out of all of them. I had the Diamond for a couple of months but returned it as the battery lasted only a fraction of the time that my touch did with the same settings. I hear the GSM version didn't have as much of a battery issue as the CDMA version. I currently am running build 6.5 23081 on my Touch and it is the best OS and build so far I've had on it but the phone is missing so many features I would like. While the Touch has served me very well, I'm looking forward to my next model.
I'm on Sprint so my choices are limited but I'm hoping they are considering the HD2 as they have a poll on their web site to find out if people would like it - http://community.sprint.com/baw/poll.jspa?poll=1040
I want the faster processor
I want the bigger screen
I want the flash (as I use vjcandela and other programs to use the phone as a flashlight)
I want the higher resolution
I want the new touch screen
I want the HD2
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HA did you say YOUR choices are limited? I'm with Bell Mobility. MY CHOICES ARE MUCH MORE LIMITED

well i can say goodbye to winmo in a few days. i just got a great deal on 2 new blackberry curves from sprint for only $50, so i got one phone for free!

come on windows mobile is great. i only have to hard reset every week or so.

I've had my WinMo HTC Touch with Sprint for over two years and I had to hard reset all of like twice....and one of those times was just to install WinMo 6.1. So yeah, maybe you guys are just doing something wrong, lol.
As far as my next phone, I am getting that HTC Touch Pro 2!! It look so amazing and I am dying to get my hands on it. HOWEVER, I just might change my mind because these new 1GHz phones seem so freakin' beastly. I gotta see when they'll be out and if it'll be worth the wait. Also I gotta see if they have all the features I want.

The Verizon Eris or Droid doesnt look so bad......

Canada wont get the Motorola droid for months and when we do it will be a 3 year contract with a $500 activation fee and a minimum $60 monthly plan with 500mb transfer and NOT unlimited texting just like the Palm Pre. Epic failure.

It's Droid for the Wifey and I at the end of the Week!!!!

Macmee said:
Canada wont get the Motorola droid for months and when we do it will be a 3 year contract with a $500 activation fee and a minimum $60 monthly plan with 500mb transfer and NOT unlimited texting just like the Palm Pre. Epic failure.
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Looks like the Bell is getting the Omnia II - the specs look very nice but its winmo. Hopefully the Droid or Sony xperia make it to Canada...

Just pre-ordered 2 Droids from Best Buy last night... all I can say is we are uber-excited about this device!!!

aross6 said:
It's Droid for the Wifey and I at the end of the Week!!!!
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Same here, except my wife wants an LG EnV Touch. Her loss I'll be ordering mine by phone though, have other things to take care of with VZW.

We should be able to transfer the Driod over the Sprint right? How much were they on preorder from BestBuy?

justpyro said:
We should be able to transfer the Driod over the Sprint right?
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I'm not sure...
justpyro said:
How much were they on preorder from BestBuy?
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$50.00 to pre-order/hold the Handset, $149.99 due at the time of pickup (price with new 2 year contract is $299, but Best Buy gives you the $100 rebate instantly unlike Verizon retail locations)

fireshaper said:
Same here, except my wife wants an LG EnV Touch. Her loss I'll be ordering mine by phone though, have other things to take care of with VZW.
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Make sure you order before 11.15.09, because after that date Verizon is increasing their ETFs from $175.00 to $350.00... source: CNET
... and I can't believe your wife doesn't want a Droid.... my wife is STOKED to get her hands on it after having a Vogue-Droid for these past many months...

Bell getting Samsung Galaxy?
plemen said:
Looks like the Bell is getting the Omnia II - the specs look very nice but its winmo. Hopefully the Droid or Sony xperia make it to Canada...
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I went into the local Bell retail store, looking at phones. Talked to the guy about the HTC Touch Diamond. He looks at me weird, asks "You like Windows Mobile??". I grin back, and say, "No, I like Android, but that's the closest I can get with you guys." I pull out my vogue and show him plemen's themed Donut build. At this point he tells me to hold on to my $200 upgrade credit a bit longer... as they will have the Samsung Galaxy within a month! Apparently the Samsung rep had been in the day before to talk 'em up about the Galaxy and Android, how awesome it's gonna be... yadda yadda. Needless to say, I'm holding onto that upgrade credit of mine for a *bit* longer

The galaxy is very un-exciting.
Better to get an unlocked Hero from Telus and put it on Bell.

G1 stilll worth getting?

I'm considering jumping to T-Mobile here in a few days, as my Sprint contract is ending. A friend of mine is selling his G1 for pretty cheap in good condition. That combined with the Even More Plus plans sounds like a better deal than being stuck in a contract again for 2 years.
I know the phone is crazy old, but it still seems to have great support for roms and such. I have no problems with rooting and flashing at all.
Also, for the people who are with T-Mobile right now, if I start a Even More Plus plan right now, would I be able to "upgrade" to contracted phone down the road, which would prompt me to the more expensive plan, should I ever get a real itch for a Vibrant or things coming out later this year.

I just got mine today lol i love it
My other phone is a tilt 2 tho

Really no point. On CL in my city g1s are 60 used 120ish new. It still has awsome support but remember, its close to 2 years old.... With technology going at the pace its at, think of it like comparing a 2010 mustang against a very well maintained 1985 mustang. Its definately a usable phone and will make you pleased, but won't compare with the advancements in speed, fuel economy, safety, etc...
If you asked this question 7-8 months ago, I would have totally recomended it. Now, not so much.
P.S. download the APN on/off widget or APNdroid to turn off data, so you can qualify for cheaper talk/text only plans. Data is roughly $20-30 more expensive, plus your phone will be functional under wifi. Plus battery lasts longer
Sent from my T-Mobile G1 using XDA App

i would say the same as mej,
but totally.. now.. its not much worth. I would totally go for a nexus one if i had to buy a new phone

T-Mobile don't even sell G1s anymore, do they?
Anyways, if you're getting a contract, don't buy an old phone! Get a myTouch slide or wait for the Sidekick Twist.

I would just get the Vibrant right now, because I think if you come into your contract with a used G1 you can't get a new phone till you're up for an upgrade. Besides, the Vibrant(along with most of the other Galaxy S lineup) is top of the line right now. They are benchmarking higher video framerates than a EVO 4G. Plus it has 720p HD video recording, and HD video out so you can play back what you recorded on a hdtv. Also has a accelerometer and gyroscope, giving it a 6-axis g-sensor for epic gaming. Oh yeah, and it's the baddest phone T-Mo has right now, period.

I purchases my G1 2 months ago, best buy ever (paid 100 uk pound,around 130euro then, with 8GB microsd, ...).
Still no phone with a tilt keyboard yet (had a tilt, htc kaiser, much better then htc pro, but the G1 has a nicer touch screen (the tilt was also running android 2.1).

If your stuck on Tmobile, don't want to spend too much, and want a new phone before your contract ends, then go for it
Nowadays with a new contract you can get some pretty good phones for really cheap prices

I've had my G1 since I received it after preordering it. It's an EXCELLENT phone. However, it's age is showing. There are some things it simply cannot do and many things it cannot do well.
If you're going the as-cheap-as-I-can route in the short-term, a G1 may do the trick (And, if it were January of 2009, I'd say get the G1.). But, as it's been said before, if you're going to be locked into a 2 year contract, you'll really want to get hardware with enough power to last you those two years and not leave you wanting more.
Personally, if I were buying right now, it would either be a NexusOne or a Vibrant. Something with enough processing power and RAM for Android 2.2+
Good luck!

I got my G1 this past January... and while I don't regret it, there's no chance I'd buy this phone now. Every day I wish this thing had a Snapdragon in it. If you're really worried about contracts go with an unlocked phone for more money upfront - at least with T-Mobile, the plan will be cheaper, so it'll even out.
Again, the G1 is a great phone and I love the design/form factor, but for this day and age it's just not fast enough.

I don't believe you'll be able to take an Even More Plus plan and then go to an Even More plan right off the back, at least not with your same number...but, If you sign up for google Voice at the same time as getting the g1, give out that number to everyone as your new number, when you upgrade your to a contract(if you do), that GV number will still be the same and you'll just have to change the number under your GV settings.
Would I buy a G1 right now? If it was 0-50, maybe 75 with an 8 gig sd card. We've got 2.2 running on our phones now as a daily driver. it makes/receives calls, what more you need from a phone?

Zoltair Wright said:
the G1 is a great phone and I love the design/form factor, but for this day and age it's just not fast enough.
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^^ this i love my dream and i've had it less than a year but would trade up 2 a droid in a heartbeat (i still need that real keyboard even if the droids is crap)

Zardos66 said:
I'm considering jumping to T-Mobile here in a few days, as my Sprint contract is ending.
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I do have one question... why not stay with Sprint? Their plans are competitively priced with T-Mobile, and they have excellent Android devices. The Epic 4G is due out soon, which should be an amazing phone by anyone's standards. And it will have a hardware keyboard, like the G1...
If price is the most important, don't go with T-Mobile. Get an unlocked T-Mobile phone and take it over to Simple Mobile at mysimplemobile.com. They use the same 3G bands as T-Mobile but you get unlimited talk, text, and internet for a flat $60/month.

t140568 said:
I've had my G1 since I received it after preordering it. It's an EXCELLENT phone. However, it's age is showing. There are some things it simply cannot do and many things it cannot do well.
If you're going the as-cheap-as-I-can route in the short-term, a G1 may do the trick (And, if it were January of 2009, I'd say get the G1.). But, as it's been said before, if you're going to be locked into a 2 year contract, you'll really want to get hardware with enough power to last you those two years and not leave you wanting more.
Personally, if I were buying right now, it would either be a NexusOne or a Vibrant. Something with enough processing power and RAM for Android 2.2+
Good luck!
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He is not interested in a contract. He wants to get a used G1.

Well I Just bought one to hold me off until the "Project Emerald" phone comes out. It's better than using a non android phone. I think that using it as a temporary phone it will do the job.

Still an awsome phone but :] mTS 2 for 1 lol

If you don't care about having a fast phone, go for it. I just went from g1 to vibrant, and the vibrant is everything I wanted the g1 to be. The g1 is gonna give you a taste of what android can do, so you may end up wanting something better.
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well ive gone from a blackstone (WM) to a G1 and I love it. If you get the right rom it isnt slow and android is just great I love it....also devs are still making stuff for it all the time its great....