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My phone constantly transfers data eating up the battery. I manually turn off data on the comm page. It stays off briefly then begins again. Any ideas?
Try this file, unzip, transfer over, install, open NO GPRS from the programs menu and hit toggle.
That should do it, just hit toggle to re-enable.
This is posted elsewhere, try using search first.
go to activesync, menu->schedule
and set "peak times" and "off-peak times" to "manually"
I once had this when I had an MMS trying to download. Delete the MMS header from your mailbox or specify the network/connection which should be used for downloading MMS.
clarksdv2 said:
My phone constantly transfers data eating up the battery. I manually turn off data on the comm page. It stays off briefly then begins again. Any ideas?
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Check the MMS...
But the big question is... do you have push mail or perhaps a weather program?
Push especially will keep your data connection on as it is constantly polling your email...
The good news is if your are connected it doesn't necessarily mean that you are using data. If you are in a 3G area then an H icon will appear instead of the 3G icon while there is a data transfer...
If you want to stop it alltogether check out MoDaCo's NoData or the GRPS above..
No push email or other data service
I have my personal email on 30 minute retrieve increments other than that I have no other data services. My phone is just on this constant data call although no data is being transferred. This subsequently drains my battery awefully fast.
well, what is exactly the problem? is it that your pda
"is just on this constant data call although no data is being transferred"
or
"constantly transfers data" ?
More details.
The phone is engaged in a constant data call represented by 3G with the left and right arrow, however, no data is actually being transferred. The battery is draining within 8hrs on standby because the high transmit to receive ratio. Although no data is transferred the radio constantly interrogates the cell site thus throwing out unnecessary power. If I manually disengage via the communication manager, the phone will hang up the data call for a brief period, but will reengage fairly quickly. I can't find any settings that would create this situation. I downloaded the program in this post, but the phone still continues the data call. This has never happened on this phone until a month or so after installing the ROM flash with WM6, but I can't be sure if there is a direct correlation with the new flash. Thank you all for your help.
clarksdv2 said:
I have my personal email on 30 minute retrieve increments other than that I have no other data services. My phone is just on this constant data call although no data is being transferred. This subsequently drains my battery awefully fast.
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try turning off this 30 min email and make it manual to see if this is the cause...
not sure if u have htchome weather, because it will also auto update every few hours...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=My Pocket PC keeps connecting to the Internet.
have you checked the activesync schedule time?
furthermore goto commmanager and disable direct push. if your commmanager does not show you the icon to disable direct push, install schaps advanced config and activate there the icon.
i am pretty sure that one of these two options causes the problem.
what other apps have you installed?
if all this does not help, hard reset your device and install/config one app after another.
Same Problem
I've got the same problem. I'm using the default HTC WWE ROM. At random times, sometimes twice a day, my "Rogers Internet" data connection (GPRS, EDGE or 3G) connects automatically and doesn't disconnect. If I catch it happening and click cancel, it tries again. It will not give up until the connection has been established for at least 10 seconds.
I've gone through every program I have, checking to make sure the auto update option is disabled (if there is an auto update). I do not use the direct push and therefore, activesync schedule is greyed out.
Any ideas?
I'm suprised that it drains your battery so quickly. My phone stays connected at least 90% of the day, and I usually have at least 70-80% battery when I get home from work, usually more. The only time that it gets drained quickly is when I'm browsing the web too much on NetFront 3.5...a notorious battery drainer.
Sorry I couldn't help...but maybe it's a battery issue? Since I'm connected so much and have no battery issues? Or maybe a radio change could help you?
I don't have any abnormal battery drain, just weird auto-connect problem.
are you sure you have checked every single program? there has to be something that's trying to connect to the internet to grab data. weather apps, time sync, quickgps (i know, ridiculous, i'm just throwing it out there). try looking at what processes are running in the background using a task manager. that might help you eliminate suspects.
I have Spb GPRS Monitor on my phone. I've been looking at the logs. There is no pattern to the connections and they seem to be never more than 20k connections. I've installed NoGPRS and will use that while I'm sleeping. Just weird that it connects at all.
I had a similar problem, so I installed KaiserTweak and changed the setting to disconnect from 3G after use and that did the trick for me - no more constant connection and the battery stopped heating up and dying quickly.
Every now and then, I notice that my phone connects to the internet (t-mobile internet). I find this strange because I've disabled everything (i can think of) from automatically updating or connecting (weather, email and msMyPhone). I have an unlimited data plan so I'm not particularly worried about the cost; however, it drains my battery fast. Just yesterday, I tapped the top of the screen to see my notifications and I noticed that t-mobile internet had been connected for over 2 hours. I just can’t figure out the cause. I've even done the auto disconnect registry tweak (auto disconnect after 60 seconds) but still no joy. If anyone can help or even suggest a process monitoring application, I’d be very grateful. Thanks in advance.
shaliru said:
Every now and then, I notice that my phone connects to the internet (t-mobile internet). I find this strange because I've disabled everything (i can think of) from automatically updating or connecting (weather, email and msMyPhone). I have an unlimited data plan so I'm not particularly worried about the cost; however, it drains my battery fast. Just yesterday, I tapped the top of the screen to see my notifications and I noticed that t-mobile internet had been connected for over 2 hours. I just can’t figure out the cause. I've even done the auto disconnect registry tweak (auto disconnect after 60 seconds) but still no joy. If anyone can help or even suggest a process monitoring application, I’d be very grateful. Thanks in advance.
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Did you disable the rest of the services ( HTC location service, stocks, Internet time sync, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube as well ? In my case the Stock were causing unwanted connections before I figured out..
jarbi said:
Stock were causing unwanted connections before I figured out..
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I think stock was the culprit. I removed it from the home tab from day one and as a result couldnt access it's settings. I put it back on and sure enough it was connecting every 30 mins.
Thanks alot mate. I'll report back in a day or two with the results, though I'm pretty certain it was the stock application.
If you want to be able to turn internet off so it cant connect when you dont want it to then just install the attached cab, run the program then you can enable or disable both settings as appropriate.
I also recommend to use NoData.
Just go to settings->wireless control->connection->advance->select network(choose my work connection if you havent rename it yet) If you would like to use hsdpa/edge/gprs again you will have to change it to as it was before.
mskip said:
If you want to be able to turn internet off so it cant connect when you dont want it to then just install the attached cab, run the program then you can enable or disable both settings as appropriate.
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Got a brand new HD2 and each time I install NoData, I get an error. What should I do to fix this please?
What's the error message you are getting?
WB
str0g said:
Just go to settings->wireless control->connection->advance->select network(choose my work connection if you havent rename it yet) If you would like to use hsdpa/edge/gprs again you will have to change it to as it was before.
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the best solution without any installation .
HD2 connection problem
Hi i have encountered the same problem my phone keeps logging into its internet for no reason , i have to disconnect it regularly . now that i have downloaded the nodata.cap how do i use it ? i have installed it onto my phone . how does this file work
feliciang said:
Hi i have encountered the same problem my phone keeps logging into its internet for no reason , i have to disconnect it regularly . now that i have downloaded the nodata.cap how do i use it ? i have installed it onto my phone . how does this file work
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Just run nodata and then follow the on screen instructions its easy to use.
Mark.
mskip said:
Just run nodata and then follow the on screen instructions its easy to use.
Mark.
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Even better, you can use Dial-up Enabler/Disabler: works like nodata but interface is a little better and is more user friendly ;-)
thegios said:
Even better, you can use Dial-up Enabler/Disabler: works like nodata but interface is a little better and is more user friendly ;-)
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Pls note that with nodata, you disable the internet connection but, if the connection is active while disabling it, you still need to end it manually after exiting nodata.
This sounds weird I know...
With dial-up enabler/dsabler it is a lot easier as you will see two connections: one is the internet connection configured on your phone and the other is the current active connection, and you can disable them at the same time.
In addition it does not have annoying confirmation messages on disabling and exiting
shaliru said:
Every now and then, I notice that my phone connects to the internet (t-mobile internet). I find this strange because I've disabled everything (i can think of) from automatically updating or connecting (weather, email and msMyPhone). I have an unlimited data plan so I'm not particularly worried about the cost; however, it drains my battery fast. Just yesterday, I tapped the top of the screen to see my notifications and I noticed that t-mobile internet had been connected for over 2 hours. I just can’t figure out the cause. I've even done the auto disconnect registry tweak (auto disconnect after 60 seconds) but still no joy. If anyone can help or even suggest a process monitoring application, I’d be very grateful. Thanks in advance.
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how do u do auto disconnection tweak
HD2 connection problem
Connect your HD2 to your computer and transfer the cad file to your mobile.
Find the file on your phone using File Explorer (on the phone).
Double click on it and follow the instructions.
Then go to Start and locate the nodata programme.
Start it and disable what you want.
I disabled the Orange (in my case) internet connection and WAP.
In my case it is crucial that I donet't g automatic access to internet services when I roam because I am on a PAYG tariff.
£20 last me up to three months normally with a different phone (SIC) and since I started using my HD2 my last top up lasted me less than a week.
It's a rip-off!
Once beaten, twice shy...
I won't be caught again!
Hope this helps
Djam2011
Hi guys,
I have recently moved from symbian platform to WinMo. I do have a question regarding data connection. Does it ever auto disconnects? (for example in my old N95 if I clicked sync in my mail application, the phone would connect, download new mail and then auto disconnect when the job was done)
Also the phone would disconnect from data connection after closing app that was using it.
Now with my HD2 when I sync email, refresh weather etc the data connection stays on. Do I have to disconnect it manualy every single time so it doesnt drain my battery? It is very annoying since I have to do it manually very often.
Please advise... maybe I am missing something...
Cheers
Pete
Hi,
There's a few threads on here on data connection disconnection. There is also a hints & tips thread right at the top of this page.
Use this tool to find what you are looking for..http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:http://forum.xda-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all
WB
install the 1 min disconnect tweak thats on this forum.
if you only set emails to check automatically it will disconnect ok using the above tweak but if you have weather and/or twitter apps connecting to update for some reason it will not close the connection at all i have told htc but never heard back
The only real reason for disconnecting a data connection is if you want to prevent unwanted costs associated with data exchange.
If you're in a weak signal area you can save battery by switching the connection band to GSM rather than 3G, but in a strong signal, 3G is more power efficient.
An open, but quiescent data connection has little or no effect on battery life as it's simply using the network infrastructure; battery usage only occurs during actual data exchange. So, if you turn off all the auto-update features and set email polling to a longer interval you should be OK. Kind of defeats the purpose of the device though
NeilM said:
The only real reason for disconnecting a data connection is if you want to prevent unwanted costs associated with data exchange.
If you're in a weak signal area you can save battery by switching the connection band to GSM rather than 3G, but in a strong signal, 3G is more power efficient.
An open, but quiescent data connection has little or no effect on battery life as it's simply using the network infrastructure; battery usage only occurs during actual data exchange. So, if you turn off all the auto-update features and set email polling to a longer interval you should be OK. Kind of defeats the purpose of the device though
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From my experience all Symbian devices and the iPhone auto disconnect from the network once the data connection is no longer needed. They also reconnect in the blink of an eye. It kind of irritates me that Windows Mobile doesn't allow you at least the OPTION of doing so. It's particularly annoying if you're connected to a speaker and can't get 3g as there's a constant noise going off. I also think it can't be great for your balls having that connection constantly active! It's not HTC's fault though, just I think a result of Windows Mobile being inherently quite archaic...perhaps Windows have just overlooked it.
There's a great free app HERE to tweak the WinMo connections for individual apps. It's a must have for me.
petexx said:
Hi guys,
I have recently moved from symbian platform to WinMo. I do have a question regarding data connection. Does it ever auto disconnects? (for example in my old N95 if I clicked sync in my mail application, the phone would connect, download new mail and then auto disconnect when the job was done)
Also the phone would disconnect from data connection after closing app that was using it.
Now with my HD2 when I sync email, refresh weather etc the data connection stays on. Do I have to disconnect it manualy every single time so it doesnt drain my battery? It is very annoying since I have to do it manually very often.
Please advise... maybe I am missing something...
Cheers
Pete
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This really isn't a problem, I've seen N95's that retain their connection at all time (and some that don't) and to be honest it just makes your handset a little quicker.
WMLongLife is the nuts. You need it.
Thanks for the link, I pay per minute on my connection (rather than data transferred) so an open connection is not good for my bank balance
19 hours it was connect for before i realised!! seriously i was kinda annoyed.
ive changed the settings on twitter and weather so they only update manually but is there anything else i need to do.
thanks
x
Is this because you are worried about going over your internet allowance (500mbish) or because you want to save on battery? I'm a tad concerned about both and I would feel better if I could easily disable mobile web activating every so often.
All Settings --> Connections --> Connections --> Advanced --> Select Networks
There, select "My work Network". That will only allow it to connect through WiFi.
download nodata
it's available on here..
also touch x datadisconnect..
freyberry said:
All Settings --> Connections --> Connections --> Advanced --> Select Networks
There, select "My work Network". That will only allow it to connect through WiFi.
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got to connections selected adavanced network and theres a drop down bar that says HSDPA/HSUPA, disable or HSDPA only???
have i gone wrong some where? sorry im a bit thick haha
@CharGuitarGirl said:
got to connections selected adavanced network and theres a drop down bar that says HSDPA/HSUPA, disable or HSDPA only???
have i gone wrong some where? sorry im a bit thick haha
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get the cab I mentioned..
freyberry said:
All Settings --> Connections --> Connections --> Advanced --> Select Networks
There, select "My work Network". That will only allow it to connect through WiFi.
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I'm afraid the only way to actually disable data connections is NoData (i uploaded it for you). If you change your connection settings it won't connect via HSDPA or GPRS but it will connect via WAP.
If you install NoData simply make a shortcut to it and turn on data connections whenever you need them.
@CharGuitarGirl said:
got to connections selected adavanced network and theres a drop down bar that says HSDPA/HSUPA, disable or HSDPA only???
have i gone wrong some where? sorry im a bit thick haha
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contact HTC in your region, they send you a cab file that can disable all your data connections...alternatively there are a good few programs avl. on here as well.
hi
disable automatic updates in your weather program
The method provided by freyberry worked for me until I looked at my phone this morning, instead of Mobile Web it said "Pay Monthly Contract" and was active for 12 hours!
I guess I should get that cab!
@CharGuitarGirl said:
19 hours it was connect for before i realised!! seriously i was kinda annoyed.
ive changed the settings on twitter and weather so they only update manually but is there anything else i need to do.
thanks
x
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Why do you want to stop it connecting?
You are only charged for actual data transfer, not for time connected, and the amount of data used for FB and Twitter updates is relatively small anyway.
If you are being charged for all data I can understand your problem as you would want to stop some of the background downloads, otherwise there's really no point. The effect on battery life by disconnecting (as opposed to switching to GSM) is miniscule.
gregormax said:
If you install NoData simply make a shortcut to it and turn on data connections whenever you need them.
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probably giving you a right headache now but, how do i do that ^
If you get charged for this, just tell the carrier that you accidently enabled it and didn't mean to use any data usage.
neilm i worry about it being left on. i realise that for the 19 hours it was left on it only used 3mb but it just niggles away at me, if i cant really disable it when i want & effectively i'll just accept it and try not to worry about it.
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The effect on battery life by disconnecting (as opposed to switching to GSM) is miniscule.
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Hi, i have already used all methods discussed above. i have nodata and i also use the on/off switch to 3G network. The thing is that there IS a difference in battery times with all these... with 3G on and connection on battery lasts about 24 hours with minimal use. With 2G and connection on battery lasts 48 hours (2 days) with minimal use. With 2G and connection OFF from nodata it can hold 4 days on a single charge!
At least thats happening with my battery, coz i heard some stories about batteries holding 6-9 hours which never happened to me unless im using it fully for those 9 hours...
PS: by minimal usage i mean a couple of phone calls, a couple of sms and around 10-15 mins of internet connection either wifi or gprs just to update weather, twitter, email etc. The rest of its time, in sleep mode.
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neilm i worry about it being left on. i realise that for the 19 hours it was left on it only used 3mb but it just niggles away at me, if i cant really disable it when i want & effectively i'll just accept it and try not to worry about it.
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I'd say that 3MB in 19 hours without knowingly using any data is a bit of a concern
It may be wise to look into the updating schedules for location services, weather, twitter and Facebook (if you use them) and Stocks and Shares. The stocks and shares stuff does use a lot of data if you don't change the default settings.
For NoData- download the nodata.cab file to your phone then use File Explorer to locate it. Tap the filename to run it and this will install the program and place a shortcut in your Programs folder. You could then add the shortcut as one of the 9 links on the home page for easy access, to turn the data connection on & off at will
djngal said:
Hi, i have already used all methods discussed above. i have nodata and i also use the on/off switch to 3G network. The thing is that there IS a difference in battery times with all these... with 3G on and connection on battery lasts about 24 hours with minimal use. With 2G and connection on battery lasts 48 hours (2 days) with minimal use. With 2G and connection OFF from nodata it can hold 4 days on a single charge!
At least thats happening with my battery, coz i heard some stories about batteries holding 6-9 hours which never happened to me unless im using it fully for those 9 hours...
PS: by minimal usage i mean a couple of phone calls, a couple of sms and around 10-15 mins of internet connection either wifi or gprs just to update weather, twitter, email etc. The rest of its time, in sleep mode.
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If those figures are typical for you, then you are doing very well! Most users see about 25-30% improvement by turning off 3G, and significantly less for turning data off.
It's important to realise that it is mostly data transfer that uses battery power, not the state of being connected or not. To go 4 days without any data transfer at all would mean a substantial reduction in overall device functionality, as you'd be simply using the installed programs in self contained mode- that may well limit the amount you even turn it on, so saving even more power. No email/web browsing/weather etc may well improve the battery life, but at what expense in terms of functionality?
As I mention above, it might be better to find out which programs are downloading data and at what intervals, and modify those settings to save both data use and battery life.
Not quite sure I am after the same as the op, but its close and I don't see the point in starting a new thread.
But I want my hd2 to use Wifi when I am connected to it and not the 3g connection. Had a quick search, but maybe I am using the wrong terms!! as i couldnt find anything.
keith43 said:
Not quite sure I am after the same as the op, but its close and I don't see the point in starting a new thread.
But I want my hd2 to use Wifi when I am connected to it and not the 3g connection. Had a quick search, but maybe I am using the wrong terms!! as i couldnt find anything.
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The HD2 and all Windows Mobile phones ought to use an open WiFi connection in preference to the phone signal without you having to do anything.
There are some provisos though:
It must be a valid WiFi connection, so check that the device can use the WiFi signal properly
The data session needs to be initiated after the WiFi is turned on, or it may continue using the phone signal. So, for web browsing, exit the browser, and restart it after turning on WiFi. Stuff such as location services, weather updates etc might continue using the phone, but the amount of data they use is relatively small unless you have a very short update interval.
Wonder if anybody has made a cab: "Connect ONLY and ONLY using WiFi"
*lol*
if there is - I will get it
Was having a debate elsewhere and a few of us have realised, that we are not actually sure what this does and if really required?
I turned mine off a while back for example and my widgets would still update as I wanted and I still received emails etc.
Therefore can anyone actually explain what "Always on Internet" is actual for?
I read a somewhere on Google that the G1 users in the past who used the "Always on" option, found that when they went abroad, they were getting charged a fortune in roaming charges. Is this a sneaky reason for it being included maybe?
There's another setting which enables / disables data whilst roaming.
Personally I have found that it is better to have the Internet Always on as it is quicker for any app to use the data connection. With it off, sometimes apps failed but since enabling it again, no probs
Vince
I think what the option does is leave the 3G or whatever connected so that when apps need it your phone doesn't need to reconnect each time.
Without it checked i imagine apps will connect the 3G, download the data they need, then disconnect the 3G connection.
Makes sense anyway, ive never had it off.
If you turn on the always on internet, your device will stay connected to the intenet so you dont have to keep connecting, if you turn it on, you can still connect to the internet when needed but it will turn it back off after x amount of minutes idle i think lol
@xxThugxx
Thanks for just rewording my post....
Cheers guys, have put mine back on, just hope battery drain doesn't get too bad.