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I have asked this question on several forums and have yet to receive an answer. I have been told on one forum that this can happen. I would just like to know if this is true or false with certainty.
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ggrant3876 said:
I have asked this question on several forums and have yet to receive an answer. I have been told on one forum that this can happen. I would just like to know if this is true or false with certainty.
Thanks
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There are a finite number of write cycles. But there is no way you're anywhere near it.
Flashing the SPL can "brick" (i.e. render completely inoperable) your G1 in certain cases. Flashing ROMs though should be pretty safe.
Don't worry about wearing out your SD card due to writing to it often. Most new ones have wear leveling technology built in to prolong their lifespan. If and when your SD card does start to get flaky, a new one can be bought cheaply.
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There are a finite number of write cycles. But there is no way you're anywhere near it.
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Do you have a ball park figure to the number of times? I have had my phone for about 7 months and have flashed quite a few times.
Thanks for taking the time to answer my question.
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Do you have a ball park figure to the number of times? I have had my phone for about 7 months and have flashed quite a few times.
Thanks for taking the time to answer my question.
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10,000 to 100,000
10,000 to 100,000 is for regular read/write operations that operating systems perform. Flashing is a bit more intensive than that, so I think about a hard cap of 10,000 flashes is more in line. You never really lose all the chip at once, so once the chip starts wearing out, you'll start noticing decreased capacity, slower speeds, etc. At that point you know the chip is dying.
ggrant3876 said:
Do you have a ball park figure to the number of times? I have had my phone for about 7 months and have flashed quite a few times.
Thanks for taking the time to answer my question.
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LOL, you wont even come close to the minimum of the range. Why are you so worried?
BTW, quit flashing your phone and enjoy it
So I was browsing the registry the other day, to see if any improvements could be enabled, no, actually I was looking for some hidden storage. Sometimes HTC phones have an additional storage, but it's hidden. But I found some additional 20mb. Don't know where it is used for.
To enable it, go to:
[HKLM]\System\StorageManager\Profiles\EXT_Pinet and set MountHidden value to 0 (zero) A soft reset may be required, in order to let it show up in your file explorer.
Anyway, I actually was searching for some 8gb om hidden internal storage to tripple confirm that the HD2 was WM7 compatible, as based on some leaked hardware req. for WM7. but... i could not found it.
WM7 does not need 8GB, it needs only 512MB. Don't believe the bull**** you read somewhere, all the bloggers have no clue.
TRUTH, Im so sick of hearin these bs specs spread around the forum
window mobile 7 only need 512mb not 8gb (even window xp on a computer does not need that mach of memory)
Dude... that reg change screwed my phone badly.
DONT change it.
I have to hard reset!
I can't trust xda anymore ..... you have no idea how much work is ahead of me... restoring everything back.
You just cost me 2 days of work!!!!
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Dude... that reg change screwed my phone badly.
DONT change it.
I have to hard reset!
I can't trust xda anymore ..... you have no idea how much work is ahead of me... restoring everything back.
You just cost me 2 days of work!!!!
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srry, i can't surpress a smile... it was not my intention, i hope you realize that, but, the reg edit works for me. hard reset my device often.
lorin.bute said:
Dude... that reg change screwed my phone badly.
DONT change it.
I have to hard reset!
I can't trust xda anymore ..... you have no idea how much work is ahead of me... restoring everything back.
You just cost me 2 days of work!!!!
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Its only your fault, how can u trust him when he wrote: "...Don't know where it is used for..."
Good luck with restoring your settings.
i can confirm that on mine this works. i put stuff in it, reset, and the data remains. phone seems unaffected.
Man, bigger the game bigger the risk!
On my previous two HTC devices I was keen to explore each patch/new rom/new app. Hence weekly hard resets
Now with my Leo, I'm much calmer as I don't have anymore the time you spent reinstalling everything.
Good luck exploring further
This is the last time i do these kind of changes and the last time i trust an unverified reg change.
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This is the last time i do these kind of changes and the last time i trust an unverified reg change.
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Man, if you hang around xda-developers and apply tweaks and suff, it's kinda naive to belive you're not gonna have to hard reset from time to time.
And who is crying if you are not going to apply any tweaks anymore?
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Man, if you hang around xda-developers and apply tweaks and suff, it's kinda naive to belive you're not gonna have to hard reset from time to time.
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This rather reminds me of the attitude that if someone is mugged and has their phone stolen then it is entirely the fault of the victim for using the phone in a public place. (My own, contrasting, view is that it is more appropriate to assign blame to the mugger).
Perhaps it is naive to assume that people will not recommend a tweak without first verifying that it doesn't break anything serious; but, if so, that's a pretty sad reflection on the mentality of the average XDA poster, IMO. Would it not be preferable to encourage people to verify the effects of a change before recommending it - to the extent that such verification becomes expected rather than exceptional? Should we not encourage people to take some responsibility for their recommendations rather than blaming all damage that results on the victim?
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Do you also regard it as "naive" to believe that one can use a mobile phone outside a train station without being mugged and having it stolen? And when such a mugging occurs, do you feel that the person to blame for what happened is the victim rather than the mugger?
Perhaps it is naive to assume that people will not recommend a tweak without first verifying that it doesn't break anything serious; but, if so, that's a pretty sad reflection on the mentality of the average XDA poster, IMO. Would it not be preferable to encourage people to verify the effects of a change before recommending it - to the extent that such verification becomes expected rather than exceptional? Should we not encourage people to take some responsibility for their recommendations rather than blaming all damage that results on the victim?
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This was a poor comparison. If you lay the phone at a bench, and going to the toilet, yes, it's a naive thing to do.
(I regret on my participation in this thread)
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This rather reminds me of the attitude that if someone is mugged and has their phone stolen then it is entirely the fault of the victim for using the phone in a public place. (My own, contrasting, view is that it is more appropriate to assign blame to the mugger).
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lol - that is a bit different isn't it! It's not as if the mugger thought they were giving good advice, but unfortunately ended up attacking someone and stealing from them. Intention makes that a very different scenario.
In this instance, there's immediately 2 people saying that the advice worked for them, so nothing could have been done either by the recommender, or the listener. If lorin.brute had left it a few posts before applying the change then he would have seen people say it worked for them and gone ahead and done it. If hyellow had asked a couple of people to test it for him then the exact same thing could have happened.
I think this is just unfortunate.
Personally, I'm on the side that if you do something then you're responsible. If your passenger told you to drive really fast and turn the steering wheel really quickly because it's funny, would you just do it, or show caution.
(There you go - I've used an excessive analogy now too )
We don't need to argue here. I blame myself. Anybody can come here and post any kind of reg change.
Its just a lesson that needs to be learned.
Although, in the spirit of XDA, i would expect some rigorous testing of the reg before posting.
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Would it not be preferable to encourage people to verify the effects of a change before recommending it - to the extent that such verification becomes expected rather than exceptional?
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True but I think that at the same time people should also use common sense and do a full system back up (with Sprite or whatever their preferred programme is) "just in case". Then it's just hard reset and 5 minutes to restore to how it was.
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Man, if you hang around xda-developers and apply tweaks and suff, it's kinda naive to belive you're not gonna have to hard reset from time to time.
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Really? Haven't had to hard reset my HD2 yet, in 7 months didn't have to hard reset my X1 either. If you're judicious I think you can generally avoid hard resets.
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Personally, I'm on the side that if you do something then you're responsible. If your passenger told you to drive really fast and turn the steering wheel really quickly because it's funny, would you just do it, or show caution.
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The problem with that analogy is that, if I'm driving a car, that implies that I have a fair idea of what the consequences of driving too fast will be. In this case we are talking about someone offering advice to people who are not qualified to understand the nature of the risk they are taking by following it.
A better analogy would be that it's like offering someone some cake when you know there is signfificant risk that it will contain razor blades. You yourself may deal with razor-blade-containing cake on a daily basis, and so you know to carefully sift through it with a spoon before biting; but people who are accustomed to cake that doesn't contain razor blades simply aren't aware that you need to do this. If you assume that the person you give the cake to is aware that it may contain razor blades without bothering to verify that he is, and he ends up getting lacerated, then you are far more to blame for the injury than he is. What you should do in that situation, of course, is actually check whether the cake contains razor blades or not before offering it to anybody; that way it's guaranteed that no one will get hurt, regardless of whether they are familiar with razor blade cake procedures or not. And it is not appropriate to point at the man with the lacerated mouth and accuse him of being "naive" because, when you offered him cake, he assumed that meant it was safe to eat.
I'm not getting in an analogy war with someone, especially someone on the forum that I respect, so I'll drop it. We obviously just see this from different perspectives, and I believe we should agree to disagree
Anyway, lorin.brute himself said it best...
lorin.brute said:
We don't need to argue here. I blame myself. Anybody can come here and post any kind of reg change.
Its just a lesson that needs to be learned.
Although, in the spirit of XDA, i would expect some rigorous testing of the reg before posting.
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See - we're both right lol
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A better analogy would be that it's like offering someone some cake when you know there is signfificant risk that it will contain razor blades.
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Not quite, The OP didn't have any problem after applying the tweak, and nor did the following two people, so why would they 'know' it was dangerous? After three posts 100% of people had found no problem, so why would anyone assume it was going to go bad?
Wanted to give EVO 4G owners/potential owners a heads up regarding a pretty serious issue with the included SD cards - have a look: Is HTC EVO 4G About To Be Launched With A Massive Defect In The Included 8GB MicroSD Card?
Oh great. I should've waited for things like this to develop before preordering. Hope it's nothing major.
To be fair, it wouldn't be a true HTC phone without some sort of major defect.
haven't had any problems
It could be a destructive application.
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Several people seem to have it on the Android forums for the Evo: http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g...disappearing-defect-included-8gb-microsd.html
Really hope this doesn't become a major problem.
I don't consider a SD card problem a "massive defect". If it was the slot or the phone then yes. I'm sure HTC will replace the cards no problem. I already have my own card so? Why you people seem to be freaking out of this its nothing. BIG DEAL.
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I don't consider a SD card problem a "massive defect". If it was the slot or the phone then yes. I'm sure HTC will replace the cards no problem. I already have my own card so? Why you people seem to be freaking out of this its nothing. BIG DEAL.
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Well it may not be the cards that is the problem. It could be a hardware issue where due to the awkward positioning of the card the phone doesn't read it sometimes, which would be a significant problem that would near impossible to fix.
I haven't experienced any problems.
I use my own 16GB card and dont have any problems. Maybe the shipped card is bad - but it is not a device deffect.
I had that exact same problem with a 4gb card from microcenter in my hero until one day, it completely died. After I replaced the card, the problem went away. It's probably just the card.
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Well it may not be the cards that is the problem. It could be a hardware issue where due to the awkward positioning of the card the phone doesn't read it sometimes, which would be a significant problem that would near impossible to fix.
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I remember the 5/19 engadget review mentioned:
"The microSD card lives underneath the battery, so we'd probably recommend just getting a nice big one (good luck finding a 32GB!) and leaving it put -- especially since HTC has chosen one of the most unusual slot designs we've ever seen on a phone. Basically, the card rests loosely in a trench and is secured using a plastic peg overhead; press it down to hold the card in place. A fingernail is enough to pop the peg up again, and the card just falls right out. It's such a bizarre design that we can only assume it was necessitated (versus, say, a conventional spring-loaded slot) by virtue of the EVO's tightly-packed circuitry. Nothing a good, old-fashioned teardown won't definitively answer, we're sure."
So is this a hardware or officially resolved software or combo issue or will we not really know until after the June 4th launch (asks an eager beaver)?
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I don't consider a SD card problem a "massive defect". If it was the slot or the phone then yes. I'm sure HTC will replace the cards no problem. I already have my own card so? Why you people seem to be freaking out of this its nothing. BIG DEAL.
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First of all, we still don't know what the issue is exactly - hardware, software, or a combination of the two.
And if the problem is widespread, new EVO users, who may not be tech savvy or have spare SD cards, will not be happy and this is the publicity HTC doesn't need.
And finally, if it is a bad batch, I'd like to know how HTC plans to address it and what we would need to do to get the fix.
I have seen this issue with my evo. I will test out 4gb card and see if the issue goes away.
No issues for me.
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Swapped that sucker out with a 16GB since the day i got it. No issues
I have an EVO from the I/0. I re-formatted the card before I put anything on it and haven't had any problems with it.
No issues with my nexus one 4 gb card. I will try formatting the 8 gb and try again.
Archon810 said:
Wanted to give EVO 4G owners/potential owners a heads up regarding a pretty serious issue with the included SD cards - have a look: Is HTC EVO 4G About To Be Launched With A Massive Defect In The Included 8GB MicroSD Card?
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Geez...It's a freaking storage card. You gotta love the hysteria that results when a story is headlined with the words "Massive Defect".
A massive defect would be "half the screen goes dead when used in temps of 70 F or higher" or "phone bricks when you install a memory manager".
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Geez...It's a freaking stroage card. You gotta love the hysteria that results when a story is headlined with the words "Massive Defect".
A massive defect would be "half the screen goes dead when used in temps of 70 F or higher" or "phone bricks when you install a memory manager".
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Again, if you bothered to read the article or prior posts before commenting, you'd know that nobody knows the root of the problem. It is not necessarily a faulty storage card. It could also be a problem with the hardware where the memory card does not stay connected to the phone, which would be a major issue, and replacing the memory card would not solve it. I know I'd be very upset if every time I wanted to take a picture the phone told me there was no available memory card to save it to. It also could be a software problem, which hopefully should not be too difficult to solve.
According to a poster on the Android forums,
"I contacted sprint about this problem tonight, they told me they knew about it already. Sprint said the only phones that have this problem are the ones that google gave to their employees and to the reviewers. It was a software issue,apparently the issue was only with the first 2,000 phones google gave out. With the phones being released on June 4th, the software issue is resolved. I am switching form the Crap pre to the HTC Evo 4G, and I am glad to now be a part of Android Forums. Thanks guys and have a good night."
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g...sappearing-defect-included-8gb-microsd-2.html
So let's hope that is the case, but who knows how reliable either the guy is or the person he talked to at Sprint. We'll have to wait and see if it happens to us.
Hey all,
I hear a lot of talking about SOD .. what is exactly this sleep of death ?? and how can it occures ?? how can i discover it ??
Thanks a lot.
why would u want to discover it...... do sum research before you post.. this thread should be closed because people are just going to flame you
don't know exactly what it is but there are reports that it could be caused by faults on the SD card go here for an apparent fix
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745253
Ricey
I was going to call the OP (don't you dare ask....) some nasties until I did a search of "SOD" in the forums and Googled "Android SOD".....nothing at all defining SOD, so here it is - ready? SCREEN OF DEATH!! .
So there we have it - literacy in a jar(head).
i know where it is , in the general section
k.a.h said:
Hey all,
I hear a lot of talking about SOD .. what is exactly this sleep of death ?? and how can it occures ?? how can i discover it ??
Thanks a lot.
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SOD is your worst nightmare. It is what keeps HD2 android users up at night. SOD has detroyed families and can bring even the most hardened,and diligent smartphone user to his knees and make him or her want to prostrate before the android gods and beg for forgiveness.
This "disease" will cause you to lock yourself in a room for days and make you feel like Russell Crowe from a "A beautiful Mind".
Trust me, you dont want it.
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SOD is your worst nightmare. It is what keeps HD2 android users up at night. SOD has detroyed families and can bring even the most hardened,and diligent smartphone user to his knees and make him or her want to prostrate before the android gods and beg for forgiveness.
This "disease" will cause you to lock yourself in a room for days and make you feel like Russell Crowe from a "A beautiful Mind".
Trust me, you dont want it.
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Haha,your funny.Couldn't said it better.
It is probably caused by some errors on the SD Card but also it might be the amount of free memory left on it.
I was having some SODs on my old 8Gb card on which I had only 600Mb of free space(with Android).
So I made a FULL FAT32 Format(not a quick one which is simply delete) to remove all the unnecessary files.At first it worked but after adding some files and as the free memory was getting smaller the SODs returned back.So I switched to 16Gb card.
Always think of letting one third of the SD card free and if you need this capacity just switch to a new card.
Don't know if my SODs where caused be the amount of free space or some errors on the SD though.
k.a.h said:
Hey all,
I hear a lot of talking about SOD .. what is exactly this sleep of death ?? and how can it occures ?? how can i discover it ??
Thanks a lot.
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I got SODs with certain builds. The thing that worked for me was switching to a new radio. After I switched, I haven't had one SOD on any of the builds I have tried.
Try installing radio 2.12.50. It worked for me.
Stormtroopers of Death, more commonly known as S.O.D., was a crossover thrash band formed in New York in 1985. They are commonly credited as being among the first bands to fuse hardcore punk with thrash metal into a style sometimes called "crossover thrash". Their 1985 debut album was the Headbanger's Ball intro anthem for many years.
They have also been a subject of controversy due to their politically-incorrect lyrics. S.O.D. member Dan Lilker has stated: "The lyrics were never intended to be serious, just to piss people off."
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Stormtroopers of Death, more commonly known as S.O.D., was a crossover thrash band formed in New York in 1985. They are commonly credited as being among the first bands to fuse hardcore punk with thrash metal into a style sometimes called "crossover thrash". Their 1985 debut album was the Headbanger's Ball intro anthem for many years.
They have also been a subject of controversy due to their politically-incorrect lyrics. S.O.D. member Dan Lilker has stated: "The lyrics were never intended to be serious, just to piss people off."
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HAHA nice.
Actually this is not such a bad question to ask. There seems to be many posters using the SOD term a bit too widely, indicating they do not know the definition of SOD. It is important to be able to differentiate between different problems with the Android builds, so people can relate.
SOD = Sleep Of Death. Not Screen of death or anything else. When your device is sleeping and you try to wake it using any hardware button, you will not get any reaction from your device. You will not see any image on the screen.
When I wake my device, I get to the lock screen but the screen is totally unresponsive to touch, is this SOD? No, it is not. The unresponsiveness might be temporary due to the accelerometer overload defect, or due to the wifi-sleep defect (in wich case it it is not so obvious that the device will in fact be responsive in due time if you just keep it from falling back to sleep by using e.g. hardware buttons repeatedly). In the end, you managed to wake your device and get a picture on the screen, this is not the sleep of death.
My device crashes in the middle of something, e.g. it hangs when I turn on wifi, is this SOD? No.
For example newer kernels seem to have the wifi-sleep defect for users with wifi-mac starting with 00:xx:... and there seems to be lots of people regarding the symptoms (the unresponsiveness of the lock-screen) as SOD.
SOD= Search Or Destroy (your HD2)
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SOD= Search Or Destroy (your HD2)
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ha ha ha
Solution for this?
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801run said:
Actually this is not such a bad question to ask. There seems to be many posters using the SOD term a bit too widely, indicating they do not know the definition of SOD. It is important to be able to differentiate between different problems with the Android builds, so people can relate.
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Nicely answered! :thumbup:
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SoD = Stormtroopers of Death
Hey
thanks for bringing this thread up and thanks for all the answers so far.
I keep having the SOD's with the new Jelly Bean Roms on NativeSD. I am not quiet sure what it is and I would like to ask for help as well.
My Card:
32 gb Sandisk UHS1 ----- 1st part: 25.5 GB Fat32 ------- 2nd part 4 GB Ext3
I reformatted it already and also defragmented and checkdisked (as noellenchris stated in the linked thread). Those did not help.
My Phone:
MagLdr 1.13 and Radio 2.08
I use WP7 on nand with a different SD card which is formatted for that purpose.
If you have any more suggestions please let me know.
It happens so often that I keep my HD2 working by playing music with sound turned off all the time I guess it doesn't go to sleep then...
Oh and if you cannot help me, I would like to ask you for a different favor:
Please don't answer with "funny" comments.
thanks!
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My Card:
32 gb Sandisk UHS1 ----- 1st part: 25.5 GB Fat32 ------- 2nd part 4 GB Ext3
I reformatted it already and also defragmented and checkdisked (as noellenchris stated in the linked thread). Those did not help.
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Did you ever try a plain Class 4 or 6 card like Sandisk instead of a UHS-I, designed for video and which cannot be properly supported by the hd2?
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flyboyzeya said:
why would u want to discover it...... do sum research before you post.. this thread should be closed because people are just going to flame you
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This is an android Q&A thread...
ronniereiff said:
This is an android Q&A thread...
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It is indeed an Android Q&A thread. An old, dead, inactive Q&A thread which you had no reason to bring back up
Hey guys, I'm wondering whether any of you are curious about the nexus 7 as I am. I want to buy one of these but don't know how google are selling such a high end device for a low price of $200. Does anyone feel there will be any hidden facts about it? It seems too good to be true.
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Hey guys, I'm wondering whether any of you are curious about the nexus 7 as I am. I want to buy one of these but don't know how google are selling such a high end device for a low price of $200. Does anyone feel there will be any hidden facts about it? It seems too good to be true.
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You have to buy the other three cores separately for $150 extra.
More seriously, you seem like a patient guy, so wait three weeks and the user reviews will pop up all over the place.
Right now, the most worrisome observation seems to be the lack of sd card, and this.
they cut the cost down by taking out the rear camera, sd slot, and MHL/HDMI out.
sd slot can be fixed with root and an OTG cable, but if your fine with losing the other two, then yes it's worth it for the price.
i preorderd a 16GB one and even though i'm really upset at the lack of MHL/HDMI, i'm just gonna have to deal with it.
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You have to buy the other three cores separately for $150 extra.
More seriously, you seem like a patient guy, so wait three weeks and the user reviews will pop up all over the place.
Right now, the most worrisome observation seems to be the lack of sd card,
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Those who have used Nexus devices in the past, they probably knew there will be no SD card (Besides if you go with the 16gb model, you should have plenty!). I am yet to read any post which warrants a need for expandable memory.
and this.
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I suspect a lemon (GOOG will replace the device). AnandTech of all reviewers would have caught this if really happening
hashibahoohaa said:
Those who have used Nexus devices in the past, they probably knew there will be no SD card
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Knowing it doesn't make the sting any better. In either case, that is something to watch out for.
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(Besides if you go with the 16gb model, you should have plenty!). I am yet to read any post which warrants a need for expandable memory.
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It varies depending on usage, of course, but here's mine.
Yes, 16gb should be enough for me. And also I agree that the issue with screen flicker will be fixed if that certain model isn't a fluke. I am really excited to see this device if it's as good as claimed. I'll order mine now then. Hope everyone else enjoys theirs.
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Knowing it doesn't make the sting any better. In either case, that is something to watch out for.
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I think its pure FUD. Having a pure Google experience on a GOOG branded device is *huge* - really no use of nit picking on small "good to have" items none of which are a real deal breakers (I for one really don't think expandable memory is an issue at all, HDMI may be). Being early adopters of anything GOOG strives to achieve is the real deal - GOOG leads from the front the open handset alliance, having a device running an open source software while collaborating with so many device partners is huge - As Linus pointed out, we will be in an amazing state of the world 4-5 years down the line with Android and hopefully we would have cleaned up all the stubborn device partners.
It varies depending on usage, of course, but here's mine.
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Been there, done that, I have so many unused micro SD lying around. Mostly use expandable storage as a backup solution, mirroring what I need from a neatly maintained catalogue on which ever device I need (unless you want to lug around your complete collection, 75% of which you will never listen - or for that matter will have ever the time to listen.
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I think its pure FUD.
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You mean fear, uncertainty and doubt that you'll run out of space? Like I constantly get close to doing? Yeah, got that.
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(unless you want to lug around your complete collection, 75% of which you will never listen - or for that matter will have ever the time to listen.
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This is true, but the problem is: you don't know which is the 75% beforehand!
You sound like you have a very large collection, that requires multiple sd cards to even fit in. I don't need quite that much. But the fact remains that 16GB is still not enough for all the 1GB games, music, and videos.
Here is a review: http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/28/nexus-7-review/
Looks like its worth it. Just pre-ordered my 16GB
neok44 said:
they cut the cost down by taking out the rear camera, sd slot, and MHL/HDMI out.
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Omitting the sd slot was not a cost related decision, at least not directly.
Cubanluke88 said:
Omitting the sd slot was not a cost related decision, at least not directly.
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probably true. stupid decision regardless.