I have asked this question on several forums and have yet to receive an answer. I have been told on one forum that this can happen. I would just like to know if this is true or false with certainty.
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ggrant3876 said:
I have asked this question on several forums and have yet to receive an answer. I have been told on one forum that this can happen. I would just like to know if this is true or false with certainty.
Thanks
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There are a finite number of write cycles. But there is no way you're anywhere near it.
Flashing the SPL can "brick" (i.e. render completely inoperable) your G1 in certain cases. Flashing ROMs though should be pretty safe.
Don't worry about wearing out your SD card due to writing to it often. Most new ones have wear leveling technology built in to prolong their lifespan. If and when your SD card does start to get flaky, a new one can be bought cheaply.
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There are a finite number of write cycles. But there is no way you're anywhere near it.
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Do you have a ball park figure to the number of times? I have had my phone for about 7 months and have flashed quite a few times.
Thanks for taking the time to answer my question.
ggrant3876 said:
Do you have a ball park figure to the number of times? I have had my phone for about 7 months and have flashed quite a few times.
Thanks for taking the time to answer my question.
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10,000 to 100,000
10,000 to 100,000 is for regular read/write operations that operating systems perform. Flashing is a bit more intensive than that, so I think about a hard cap of 10,000 flashes is more in line. You never really lose all the chip at once, so once the chip starts wearing out, you'll start noticing decreased capacity, slower speeds, etc. At that point you know the chip is dying.
ggrant3876 said:
Do you have a ball park figure to the number of times? I have had my phone for about 7 months and have flashed quite a few times.
Thanks for taking the time to answer my question.
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LOL, you wont even come close to the minimum of the range. Why are you so worried?
BTW, quit flashing your phone and enjoy it
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just need a little help i went frm the dash 2 the g1..but i wanted to know waz so great bout dis phone,cuz i miss a lot of programs on the dash..like a program that can records phone calls..im thking bout going back to the dash the g1 is not up 2 par..lol
Read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
Read this
http://www.spelling.hemscott.net/
LOL!!
nolageek said:
Read this
http://www.spelling.hemscott.net/
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Could you have made that any more hilarious?! Lol I'm bookmarking this thread just cause of that
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Well I had a dash and I kinda miss it. I could stream video from anywhere on skyfire so I could watch anime and shows. I could watch ANY video file on TCPMP, and had Mobile Office etc etc etc. Since there are a million WM phones the programs that were availible were enormous but Android is pickin up steam and many companies are plannin on using the OS which means more and more apps
Best thing you can do is go the link already posted and get some info
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Read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
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Could you have made that any more hilarious?! Lol I'm bookmarking this thread just cause of that
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I'm, surprised he came from the dash and not the sidekick - if you ever want to fear for the future of our species, check out the danger forums. If you can find three posts on it that have complete sentences and/or all words spelled properly, you've count at least one of them twice. It's ridiculous.
Since I am not smart enough to make fun of his grammar, I'd like to address his problem. OP needs to realize that WM has been out for years (and hasn't changed much in that time, I've had an ipaq 1945, MDA, Dash, Tilt). G1 just got paid apps when, 6 months ago? When Android is around for a few more years, then no matter what you are looking for, there will be "an app for that".
I have also had a Dash in the past. It was a rock solid phone and I loved it. Give the Android OS more time to develop. WM has been around for many years.
funny
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***i can spell,its just i text alot...so ****
Give it a shot...
jacsonmoore3 said:
faget i can spell,its just i text alot...so suck ass
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2 things...first, you misspelled ****** (lol). Second, I moved over to the g1 after having a Dash. I loved my dash, took it on deployment with me, had it for almost 2 years, but after using the g1 I can safely say that I am not going back. Learning the G1 took next to no time, but just going back to the Dash for a little bit (my wife uses it now) it seems like there is a learning curve (and it was my primary phone for 2 years). I know the thoughts going through your head and the questions. I've been there. Ultimately the only thing that I can say is try it. That is exactly why there is the 2 week return policy. Play with the G1 and if you don't like it return it, get your money back and go back to your dash while you wait for the Dash 3G to come out.
jacsonmoore3 said:
faget i can spell,its just i text alot...so suck ass
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Actually, there are a large number of mistakes in your "sentence." First, as pointed out, you spelled "******" wrong. Second, when referring to yourself, "I" is capitalized. The method in which you used "it's" would require the apostrophe. Third, "alot" isn't even a word. It is actually two words "a lot." I won't even begin to go into the grammatical errors in the use of "it's just I text a lot" as I don't think you would be capable of understanding that.
I'm not trying to be a jackass, but when someone resorts to name calling and rude comments because they cannot take a joke, it seems warranted to put the person in their place. What Luca_Dream posted was funny. Why can't you just accept it and say, in net-speak, "LOLZ, you're right. I'm just so used to texting!" In that way you would have shown maturity and good humor without getting the "smack-down" from the community.
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faget i can spell,its just i text alot...so suck ass
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Grow up and take your ignorant self back to the Danger forum. I used a Dash for two years and and used a Sidekick for a year and a half. Between texting friends, bright kite and twitter I rack up about 4000 text messages a month - so yes.. it is possible to "text alot" and still manage to put together a sentence with complete words, punctuation and at least 3rd grade level grammar.
At least PRETEND that you respect yourself and maybe others will return the sentiment.
Plus, I don't suck ass. I'll lick it every now and then though.
Just got pointed here as the post some were above was reported,
Lost for words but that could be due to the one of the follwing facts
1) I can't spell
2) Was not aware of nolageek habits or are they "work ethics"
3) Can hardly read as I seem to be laughing to much.
Think some of the above was handled rather nicely in a politicaly incorrect manor maybe.
For those that enjoy this thread, grab a beer and read this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376290
Else lets get back on topic
So they say swap file shortens SD card life which is true. But how many actually have "burned" their SD cards . Poll away!
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So they say swap file shortens SD card life which is true. But how many actually have "burned" their SD cards . Poll away!
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This is a pointless poll since:
1) There is no way to conclusively link a failed sdcard to a particular thing. Could just be a defect.
2) We are dealing with extended periods of time. The longer it is that people use sdcards for swapping, the worse their state will become and the more failures will result.
3) Failure rate will (must) relate to use. Though some people will have swap enabled, they may not even actually use it.
4) Most people are morons (sad truth) who will likely screw up so bad that they *think* they're using swap when they really aren't.
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This is a pointless poll since:
1) There is no way to conclusively link a failed sdcard to a particular thing. Could just be a defect.
2) We are dealing with extended periods of time. The longer it is that people use sdcards for swapping, the worse their state will become and the more failures will result.
3) Failure rate will (must) relate to use. Though some people will have swap enabled, they may not even actually use it.
4) Most people are morons (sad truth) who will likely screw up so bad that they *think* they're using swap when they really aren't.
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wow you just completely raped this thread
Not on my G1, but I ran a swap file on a SD card in my old Zarus PDA. The card lasted about 2 years before I started getting sector errors. I use my G1 far more then the Zarus, so I keep my G1 backed up. Not like that is hard. MyBackup for the apps and any data, and I just dump the FAT32 part to a USB drive once a month or so.
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This is a pointless poll since:
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Handling of flash memory degradation also varies between sd card manufacturer, meaning some sd cards will detect bad blocks and remove them from the block pool while others won't. Furthermore, even if a block has been damaged by excessive writes, a user may not even notice it due to the memory card writing to other areas.
I think the poll is useful
The poll results so far show, that most users haven't noticed problems with their SD cards using the swap file. It is hard to predict how many writes will happen and how loaded the swap file will be due to different settings (swappiness, swap file size etc.). I'm actually using linux swap partition but I wanted to make a more general poll so everyone using this method could give their experience. Calling most users morons kinda makes you one though...
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Calling most users morons kinda makes you one though...
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Are you serious. lbcoder has given more usefull info than majority of people on here. And why is it we have so many repeat threads of the same thing. Its the truth.
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Calling most users morons kinda makes you one though...
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[ot]I am not calling you or any particular person a moron. Sad truth of the world is that despite the religious and socialist propaganda, everybody is different and of varying levels of intellect. A very few people stand out as exceptional, a whole lot can be called smart, and then you have the vast armies of mindless idiots who live day to day by doing what somebody else tells them to do -- usually badly. They neither understand what they are doing, nor do they even care to understand. If you tell them to push that button, they'll push that button and have no clue what it does. I am truly sorry if this offends your sensibilities.[/ot]
So I was browsing the registry the other day, to see if any improvements could be enabled, no, actually I was looking for some hidden storage. Sometimes HTC phones have an additional storage, but it's hidden. But I found some additional 20mb. Don't know where it is used for.
To enable it, go to:
[HKLM]\System\StorageManager\Profiles\EXT_Pinet and set MountHidden value to 0 (zero) A soft reset may be required, in order to let it show up in your file explorer.
Anyway, I actually was searching for some 8gb om hidden internal storage to tripple confirm that the HD2 was WM7 compatible, as based on some leaked hardware req. for WM7. but... i could not found it.
WM7 does not need 8GB, it needs only 512MB. Don't believe the bull**** you read somewhere, all the bloggers have no clue.
TRUTH, Im so sick of hearin these bs specs spread around the forum
window mobile 7 only need 512mb not 8gb (even window xp on a computer does not need that mach of memory)
Dude... that reg change screwed my phone badly.
DONT change it.
I have to hard reset!
I can't trust xda anymore ..... you have no idea how much work is ahead of me... restoring everything back.
You just cost me 2 days of work!!!!
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Dude... that reg change screwed my phone badly.
DONT change it.
I have to hard reset!
I can't trust xda anymore ..... you have no idea how much work is ahead of me... restoring everything back.
You just cost me 2 days of work!!!!
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srry, i can't surpress a smile... it was not my intention, i hope you realize that, but, the reg edit works for me. hard reset my device often.
lorin.bute said:
Dude... that reg change screwed my phone badly.
DONT change it.
I have to hard reset!
I can't trust xda anymore ..... you have no idea how much work is ahead of me... restoring everything back.
You just cost me 2 days of work!!!!
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Its only your fault, how can u trust him when he wrote: "...Don't know where it is used for..."
Good luck with restoring your settings.
i can confirm that on mine this works. i put stuff in it, reset, and the data remains. phone seems unaffected.
Man, bigger the game bigger the risk!
On my previous two HTC devices I was keen to explore each patch/new rom/new app. Hence weekly hard resets
Now with my Leo, I'm much calmer as I don't have anymore the time you spent reinstalling everything.
Good luck exploring further
This is the last time i do these kind of changes and the last time i trust an unverified reg change.
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This is the last time i do these kind of changes and the last time i trust an unverified reg change.
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Man, if you hang around xda-developers and apply tweaks and suff, it's kinda naive to belive you're not gonna have to hard reset from time to time.
And who is crying if you are not going to apply any tweaks anymore?
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Man, if you hang around xda-developers and apply tweaks and suff, it's kinda naive to belive you're not gonna have to hard reset from time to time.
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This rather reminds me of the attitude that if someone is mugged and has their phone stolen then it is entirely the fault of the victim for using the phone in a public place. (My own, contrasting, view is that it is more appropriate to assign blame to the mugger).
Perhaps it is naive to assume that people will not recommend a tweak without first verifying that it doesn't break anything serious; but, if so, that's a pretty sad reflection on the mentality of the average XDA poster, IMO. Would it not be preferable to encourage people to verify the effects of a change before recommending it - to the extent that such verification becomes expected rather than exceptional? Should we not encourage people to take some responsibility for their recommendations rather than blaming all damage that results on the victim?
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Do you also regard it as "naive" to believe that one can use a mobile phone outside a train station without being mugged and having it stolen? And when such a mugging occurs, do you feel that the person to blame for what happened is the victim rather than the mugger?
Perhaps it is naive to assume that people will not recommend a tweak without first verifying that it doesn't break anything serious; but, if so, that's a pretty sad reflection on the mentality of the average XDA poster, IMO. Would it not be preferable to encourage people to verify the effects of a change before recommending it - to the extent that such verification becomes expected rather than exceptional? Should we not encourage people to take some responsibility for their recommendations rather than blaming all damage that results on the victim?
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This was a poor comparison. If you lay the phone at a bench, and going to the toilet, yes, it's a naive thing to do.
(I regret on my participation in this thread)
Shasarak said:
This rather reminds me of the attitude that if someone is mugged and has their phone stolen then it is entirely the fault of the victim for using the phone in a public place. (My own, contrasting, view is that it is more appropriate to assign blame to the mugger).
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lol - that is a bit different isn't it! It's not as if the mugger thought they were giving good advice, but unfortunately ended up attacking someone and stealing from them. Intention makes that a very different scenario.
In this instance, there's immediately 2 people saying that the advice worked for them, so nothing could have been done either by the recommender, or the listener. If lorin.brute had left it a few posts before applying the change then he would have seen people say it worked for them and gone ahead and done it. If hyellow had asked a couple of people to test it for him then the exact same thing could have happened.
I think this is just unfortunate.
Personally, I'm on the side that if you do something then you're responsible. If your passenger told you to drive really fast and turn the steering wheel really quickly because it's funny, would you just do it, or show caution.
(There you go - I've used an excessive analogy now too )
We don't need to argue here. I blame myself. Anybody can come here and post any kind of reg change.
Its just a lesson that needs to be learned.
Although, in the spirit of XDA, i would expect some rigorous testing of the reg before posting.
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Would it not be preferable to encourage people to verify the effects of a change before recommending it - to the extent that such verification becomes expected rather than exceptional?
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True but I think that at the same time people should also use common sense and do a full system back up (with Sprite or whatever their preferred programme is) "just in case". Then it's just hard reset and 5 minutes to restore to how it was.
arxx said:
Man, if you hang around xda-developers and apply tweaks and suff, it's kinda naive to belive you're not gonna have to hard reset from time to time.
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Really? Haven't had to hard reset my HD2 yet, in 7 months didn't have to hard reset my X1 either. If you're judicious I think you can generally avoid hard resets.
johncmolyneux said:
Personally, I'm on the side that if you do something then you're responsible. If your passenger told you to drive really fast and turn the steering wheel really quickly because it's funny, would you just do it, or show caution.
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The problem with that analogy is that, if I'm driving a car, that implies that I have a fair idea of what the consequences of driving too fast will be. In this case we are talking about someone offering advice to people who are not qualified to understand the nature of the risk they are taking by following it.
A better analogy would be that it's like offering someone some cake when you know there is signfificant risk that it will contain razor blades. You yourself may deal with razor-blade-containing cake on a daily basis, and so you know to carefully sift through it with a spoon before biting; but people who are accustomed to cake that doesn't contain razor blades simply aren't aware that you need to do this. If you assume that the person you give the cake to is aware that it may contain razor blades without bothering to verify that he is, and he ends up getting lacerated, then you are far more to blame for the injury than he is. What you should do in that situation, of course, is actually check whether the cake contains razor blades or not before offering it to anybody; that way it's guaranteed that no one will get hurt, regardless of whether they are familiar with razor blade cake procedures or not. And it is not appropriate to point at the man with the lacerated mouth and accuse him of being "naive" because, when you offered him cake, he assumed that meant it was safe to eat.
I'm not getting in an analogy war with someone, especially someone on the forum that I respect, so I'll drop it. We obviously just see this from different perspectives, and I believe we should agree to disagree
Anyway, lorin.brute himself said it best...
lorin.brute said:
We don't need to argue here. I blame myself. Anybody can come here and post any kind of reg change.
Its just a lesson that needs to be learned.
Although, in the spirit of XDA, i would expect some rigorous testing of the reg before posting.
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See - we're both right lol
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A better analogy would be that it's like offering someone some cake when you know there is signfificant risk that it will contain razor blades.
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Not quite, The OP didn't have any problem after applying the tweak, and nor did the following two people, so why would they 'know' it was dangerous? After three posts 100% of people had found no problem, so why would anyone assume it was going to go bad?
I've had the HD2 since November. This forum has been a revelation. But a few hours ago I lost the phone. It's gone for good. No insurance, no location software, unlocked, 16gb sd card. Adios amigo.
Perhaps not my finest hour. Sadly, I wasn't even drunk. Just fell out of my pocket in the taxi cab. It seems some people in Poland aren't that honest. I contacted the actual cab 20min later through the company but it wasn't there.
Anyway, I still consider myself a lucky guy. This was my first foray into the world of smartphones and through an almost free upgrade on t-mobile uk i got the phone for only 100gbp (+40 for the sd card). I bought a few apps and pirated quite a few more, so perhaps this is karma at work.
Writing this is somewhat therapeutic for me but the need to find a replacement is paramount so this also allows all you guys to share your wisdom, if you will..
No other phone matches the HD2 for screen size. It's pure luxury - ok its not AMOLED, but I've looked just now - and AMOLED is maxed at 3.7" - a significant downgrade.
The other issue is the pirating of software. I know it's wrong but I think we can all agree it's the most convenient way to test apps before buying.
However, WMP7S has left me somewhat unimpressed, I think Android is where it's at right now - development is on fire on that platform. Am I wrong? should I wait to see what happens on wm7 - i suspect that would take a year at least
So what are my options? Whichever phone I pick must be supported by XDA.... (I know I don't have many posts yet, but I chose my name for a reason... )
HTC Desire? HTC Bravo? Samsung Pico (Projector phone!!!) What's coming up?
I suspect this is the year of the smartphone and my academic year is almost up so I can perhaps hold off until the summer before buying. (Back to my w810 - still the toughest phone ever built imo)
Thanks for listening and hopefully replying.... time to roll...
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....I... pirated quite a few more (apps)..., ..
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You absolutely will not win many friends on here with the statement above.
WB
I'm not proud but I'm not rich either - I'm trying to do Med School on the cheap and its not easy. If a simple google search gives me free software, only a fool would say no.
This has only been a brief visit to the Windows platform since Windows 7 came out. For 3 years prior to that I was using linux.
Virtually all the apps I use regularly,eg FPSECE, I paid for the supporter version. There's plenty of programs that don't survive more than 2 weeks.
I apologise to anyone who may feel insulted. My intent is not to steal, but to get value for money.
Is this further weight to switch to Open platforms?
HTC Supersonic
problem solved - just have to wait again
Try out the 'premium features' on htt p://myphone.microsoft.c om/
Lock your phone
Lock your phone so that it cannot be used by anyone else. You can also enter a message to display on your phone's screen to tell the finder how to contact you.
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And that's if it can't be found through GPS...
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If a simple google search gives me free software, only a fool would say no.
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You can Google a lot of things. So you should steal them? No need to respond. Just wait 10 years when you have your own medical practice and you start getting people stiffing you on the bill. They probably found your location via Google.
Touche, and a fair point. I wont try to defend piracy with any real heart - I accept it's wrong even if the end justifies the means ('end' being good software, 'means' being fracturing a few rules)
Thanks for the MyPhone tip - I've locked the phone at least.
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I had a crack on my screen, it wasn't too bad and I took it to a repair place to get it fixed and they were ummming and arrring about doing it and I took the phone back and on my way across the room I dropped it and the screen shattered completely... aghhhhhhhhhhh
Then I woke up with rapid breathing and the first thing I thought was "oh thank <censored> it was just a dream/nightmare"...
LOL
willgill said:
You can Google a lot of things. So you should steal them? No need to respond. Just wait 10 years when you have your own medical practice and you start getting people stiffing you on the bill. They probably found your location via Google.
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wrong post, sorry......
Starfury said:
I had a crack on my screen, it wasn't too bad and I took it to a repair place to get it fixed and they were ummming and arrring about doing it and I took the phone back and on my way across the room I dropped it and the screen shattered completely... aghhhhhhhhhhh
Then I woke up with rapid breathing and the first thing I thought was "oh thank <censored> it was just a dream/nightmare"...
LOL
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Hahaha OMG I also had a nightmare about my phone being damaged some days ago, and just like you when I woke up I thanked the lords
We are so obsessed xD
Right now it feels like the quest for wild fire.
You don't know if what you are doing will even work or just brick it for life.
bloodofJesus said:
I second this. OR we need to get smarter
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Right now it's a disorderly mess that does not explain what firmware you need to be on or what phone you are using.
Many handy and important threads are not pinned.
Some guides are vague.
"connect blue wire, after cutting red wire... bomb goes off.. 5000 people killed"
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Right now it feels like the quest for wild fire.
You don't know if what you are doing will even work or just brick it for life.
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bloodofJesus said:
I second this. OR we need to get smarter
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Please link me a few threads with guides you think are hard to understand, or have no guide at all. I will do my best to rewrite them to be more simple and understandable.
OmegaRED^ said:
Right now it feels like the quest for wild fire.
You don't know if what you are doing will even work or just brick it for life.
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You may start writing them whenever you want.
Now seriously, Sony devices work differently than other brands, so most previous knowledge won't apply. You should read, then read, then read some more, then finally you read even more before getting your hands dirty. And remember that this phone is over two years old now. Most people here have had a Z1 for over a year, and a lot of us had used other Sony devices previously; so most have passed through this reading phase a long time ago, and the Sony way is already very well understood by an ample majority of the users. This means most developers will assume you are familiar with the basics.
Myself, I came from Samsung devices (i9100, i9300, p6800), and the bootloader locking was a strange concept. So was the lack of a recovery partition, and the absolute need to use a computer for some operations (I still miss something like Mobile Odin, something that would be able to flash a TFT straight from the SD card and with no computer involved); but after reading a lot, I find myself pretty comfortable now, with full confidence in every step I take.