Input lag on 6.5 builds later than 23017 - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

I, and others over at modaco have noticed a serious lag when inputting text on the newer builds. It takes almost a full second before there i am able to type another letter. And to zoom in on Opera i have to wait about a half second on the double taps.
If anyone else has experienced this lemme know, and also if anyone has found a fix that would be great. There are many of us that would like to to use the new 23034 build but cannot do to the lag creating an unusable circumstance.
Thanks all.

baxtermedic said:
I, and others over at modaco have noticed a serious lag when inputting text on the newer builds. It takes almost a full second before there i am able to type another letter. And to zoom in on Opera i have to wait about a half second on the double taps.
If anyone else has experienced this lemme know, and also if anyone has found a fix that would be great. There are many of us that would like to to use the new 23034 build but cannot do to the lag creating an unusable circumstance.
Thanks all.
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the attached file should fix it.

Thanks alot i will try it first thing in the morning

c0rnholio said:
the attached file should fix it.
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What exactly does this file do? Just curious cause no one else seems to have an answer for this (one that works anyway)

SimpTheChimp said:
What exactly does this file do? Just curious cause no one else seems to have an answer for this (one that works anyway)
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It replaces the biotouch.dll. The one that comes with the newer wm6.5 builds causes this behaviour, so replacing the dll fixed it for me.

i've tried it but unfortunately the input lag is still there after installing and soft resetting my omnia. Though, i managed to eliminate the input lag by installing and enabling ftouchSL. wierd.

Change HKLM/System/GWE/Touch/Filter/MinimumTapTime to 0.

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VsNotepad - Virtual Spaghetti

Anyone managed to get VsNotepad 2.5 to work properly on Touch HD?
http://www.virtualspaghetti.com/index.php?index=30&language=en
When I run the demo on my TouchHD the stylus position and what I draw are not aligned? (Approx 1/4 of the screen width and height out)
Software does say its 480x800 compatible, even mentions the Touch HD. (I've run the setup and put the settings to forced, but I still get the aligment issue.) Reported it to the creators, but wondered if Im alone in this issue?
marcopolo007uk said:
Anyone managed to get VsNotepad 2.5 to work properly on Touch HD?
http://www.virtualspaghetti.com/index.php?index=30&language=en
When I run the demo on my TouchHD the stylus position and what I draw are not aligned? (Approx 1/4 of the screen width and height out)
Software does say its 480x800 compatible, even mentions the Touch HD. (I've run the setup and put the settings to forced, but I still get the aligment issue.) Reported it to the creators, but wondered if Im alone in this issue?
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No, you are not alone. I have the exact same problem, even though their website says it works in WVGA mode, it doesn't. I've sent them two emails in the past week and so far, no response. Makes me wonder why I bother paying for software...
jentech said:
No, you are not alone. I have the exact same problem, even though their website says it works in WVGA mode, it doesn't. I've sent them two emails in the past week and so far, no response. Makes me wonder why I bother paying for software...
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Same here. And I pay for it
zlebandit said:
Same here. And I pay for it
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Hopefully, it should be resolved soon...
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Hi,
First of all, sorry for the delay.
We have discovered some screen problem with the Touch HD.
This problem is know and will be fixed in our next release(available soon).
Best Regards,
Virtual Spaghetti Support.
marcopolo007uk said:
Hopefully, it should be resolved soon...
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Hi,
First of all, sorry for the delay.
We have discovered some screen problem with the Touch HD.
This problem is know and will be fixed in our next release(available soon).
Best Regards,
Virtual Spaghetti Support.
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Hi,
Do you have any idea of when it will be fixed ?
Tks for you answer.
Regards.
zlebandit said:
Hi,
Do you have any idea of when it will be fixed ?
Tks for you answer.
Regards.
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Not heard anything from VS yet... I keep checking the website...
I found this App so useful on my Kaiser, really missing it now on my THD
There is an updated Version now! I installed it and it works now. Problem for me, it looks so blury. Is this normal?
agmorpheus said:
There is an updated Version now! I installed it and it works now. Problem for me, it looks so blury. Is this normal?
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Where did you download it from? I can see it has been updated to 2.51, but when downloaded it appears as version 2.5 with the same symptom on my device!
I will check whether there are traces from previous install in the registry.
carola said:
Where did you download it from? I can see it has been updated to 2.51, but when downloaded it appears as version 2.5 with the same symptom on my device!
I will check whether there are traces from previous install in the registry.
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I have downloaded the 'official' version from their website and it does not work. It appears to be the exact same file I already have (it's the same size). It appears that they may not have updated their web links or have linked the file incorrectly. I have sent them an email.
they linked it wrongly.
try this link:
http://www.virtualspaghetti.com/public/VsNotepad251Setup.CAB
agmorpheus said:
they linked it wrongly.
try this link:
http://www.virtualspaghetti.com/public/VsNotepad251Setup.CAB
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That's the one! Thanks
Happy it works now....however, I want a WVGA version now!!!!
One step at a time I guess!!
Has someone else noticed a dramaticly system slowdown after starting VsNotepad? Ending the program doesn´t solve the problem, only softreset does. You can notice the slowdown in TF3D or better in coreplay, which even stopps working.
If you have the same problem, is there a really gote alternative for VsNotepad?
Just to notice:
Softreset isn´t demanded if you close the app. in the app and not via taskmanager. That way I can live with the slowdown when the app is running.

Keyboard doesnt pop up in landscape

Hi,
has anyone else the same problem?
the keyboard doesnt pop up when clicking on a text box. not even the keyboard-sign appears in the lower bar, so typing is not possible. it is esp. annoying in opera because browsing is kind of senseless without a keyboard.
i'm using my touch hd exclusively in landscape mode. The autorotate program is flip it and im running duttys v3.
would like to know if more ppl have this problem
dizzel
touchhdizzel said:
Hi,
has anyone else the same problem?
the keyboard doesnt pop up when clicking on a text box. not even the keyboard-sign appears in the lower bar, so typing is not possible. it is esp. annoying in opera because browsing is kind of senseless without a keyboard.
i'm using my touch hd exclusively in landscape mode. The autorotate program is flip it and im running duttys v3.
would like to know if more ppl have this problem
dizzel
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Similar problems posted in Duttys V3.0 thread. You answer lies within that thread if you search
In future try and post queries in relevent threads instead of creating new threads.
I'm only saying this to help you as Mod's will issue you with a warning and close thread. Try and abide my forum rules
Fallen Spartan said:
Similar problems posted in Duttys V3.0 thread. You answer lies within that thread if you search
In future try and post queries in relevent threads instead of creating new threads.
I'm only saying this to help you as Mod's will issue you with a warning and close thread. Try and abide my forum rules
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that was me posting in the dutty v3 thread but there werent many replies. only one or two encountered the same problems since a lot of the dutty users seem not use landscape mode.
apart from that i dont really know if this has to be discussed in the dutty development thread since it could also be a problem of winmo or flipit or anything else. my research brought me to the conclusion that winmo is responsible for showing an input device whenever a text box is marked.
also the dutty thread is too big already. i have to read 10 or more pages to see if someone answered to the question. too many ppl asking how to flash or how to make their cats flash devices
so, if anyone has the same problem pls post here with your config
thx
dizzel
touchhdizzel said:
that was me posting in the dutty v3 thread but there werent many replies. only one or two encountered the same problems since a lot of the dutty users seem not use landscape mode.
apart from that i dont really know if this has to be discussed in the dutty development thread since it could also be a problem of winmo or flipit or anything else. my research brought me to the conclusion that winmo is responsible for showing an input device whenever a text box is marked.
also the dutty thread is too big already. i have to read 10 or more pages to see if someone answered to the question. too many ppl asking how to flash or how to make their cats flash devices
so, if anyone has the same problem pls post here with your config
thx
dizzel
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Sorry if these same obvious or if you have already tried/stated these. I'm just asking these questions to get a better understanding of your problem and to see if I can replicate/solve your issue
Have you had similar problem on any other roms?
Is it standard HTC keyboard you are using?
Have you tried using HDTweak Automatic display pop up?
Have you tried a hard reset and then testing keyboard before installation of apps, then adding each app one at a time to see if any of them are conflicting with it?
Fallen Spartan said:
You answer lies within that thread if you search
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Really??? I have the same problem and I have read pretty much every post in that thread and don't remember a solution! If you could point us to it we would be very greatful!
Fallen Spartan said:
Sorry if these same obvious or if you have already tried/stated these. I'm just asking these questions to get a better understanding of your problem and to see if I can replicate/solve your issue
Have you had similar problem on any other roms?
Is it standard HTC keyboard you are using?
Have you tried using HDTweak Automatic display pop up?
Have you tried a hard reset and then testing keyboard before installation of apps, then adding each app one at a time to see if any of them are conflicting with it?
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I don't think I've had this problem on a non-Dutty ROM, but I'm not sure about that.
I use Fingerkeyboard.
I haven't tried the tweak you mention - but I'm not sure it would change anything since the problem is NOT PERMANENT! Sometimes the keyboard does pop up, sometimes it doesn't. Seems to be pretty random...
Fallen Spartan said:
Sorry if these same obvious or if you have already tried/stated these. I'm just asking these questions to get a better understanding of your problem and to see if I can replicate/solve your issue
Have you had similar problem on any other roms?
Is it standard HTC keyboard you are using?
Have you tried using HDTweak Automatic display pop up?
Have you tried a hard reset and then testing keyboard before installation of apps, then adding each app one at a time to see if any of them are conflicting with it?
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SOrry for the late reply...
i dont think i had the same problem with standard rom (autorotate app was changescreen)
i tried standard htc and fingerkeyboard
no, i havent tried hdtweak since the duttyroms are already tweaked by duttythroy and i dont want to mess it up. what exactly does the function "automatic display pop up"?
i hard reset after flash and tested directly afterwards. same problem.
does anyone know if this problem is still in duttys 3.3?
thx
hdizzel
The problem is still there in v3.3,i have read every possible thread and did every possible search,i cannot find anything mentioned about this and i cannot find a solution. It is kinda lame to have to rotate the phone everytime i need to write smthing on opera,but meh i can live with this inconvenience, Dutty's Rom is worth it tbh.
Even so if anyone finds anything pls report back would be nice to solve this
Lefti said:
The problem is still there in v3.3,i have read every possible thread and did every possible search,i cannot find anything mentioned about this and i cannot find a solution. It is kinda lame to have to rotate the phone everytime i need to write smthing on opera,but meh i can live with this inconvenience, Dutty's Rom is worth it tbh.
Even so if anyone finds anything pls report back would be nice to solve this
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Currently using V3.3 and I'm still not replicating your problem. If I use Opera or msm in landscape fingerkeyboard automatically pops up for me.
I've used HD Tweak with basically every rom I've flashed and had no problems with it. I'd go as far as saying it actually improves the phones experience and userability.
Try using it and see if it also helps you with your keyboard display
The funny thing is that i have HD Tweak installed(and auto pop enabled),and had it on every rom i used(well basically all of Dutty's Roms since 2.4),dont know what is going on.Maybe it is smth else on my phone,will try reflashing and using Fingerkeyboard only as the first app.Btw this only happens in opera for me.
Lefti said:
The funny thing is that i have HD Tweak installed(and auto pop enabled),and had it on every rom i used(well basically all of Dutty's Roms since 2.4),dont know what is going on.Maybe it is smth else on my phone,will try reflashing and using Fingerkeyboard only as the first app.Btw this only happens in opera for me.
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I'll also reflash and try and replicate your problem. Let me know if it persists
nop,doesnt work still.This just boggles mereallh,maybe it is just my phone,since it behaves like this with the originl keyboard also.maybe it is opera ,maybe maybe maybe pffft
Lefti said:
nop,doesnt work still.This just boggles mereallh,maybe it is just my phone,since it behaves like this with the originl keyboard also.maybe it is opera ,maybe maybe maybe pffft
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ok, I finally see were your coming from as I am experiencing it as well. Not sure why this is though. I'll look into it and see if I can find a solution.
I never really use landscape to be honest, especially in Opera as loading time of pages is slower.
well i use landscape on opera mainly for forum browsing cause i can see more text!anyways awaiting on news about this,and i am gonna try some tweaking around myself.
Arrgh!!! Really annoying, Clownshoes figured it out before me!!! LOL. Trust you mate!!
Ok mate, it seems it does work, you have to hold down for 2 secs in input field, no more, no less and it should then pop up. You can thank Clownshoes for that one!
Let me know how you get on
Fallen Spartan said:
Arrgh!!! Really annoying, Clownshoes figured it out before me!!! LOL. Trust you mate!!
Ok mate, it seems it does work, you have to hold down for 2 secs in input field, no more, no less and it should then pop up. You can thank Clownshoes for that one!
Let me know how you get on
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Hmm,i might be doing something wrong,i press and hold in the input field for 2secs or so and nothing really happens,well if i press for more the opera menu pops up "select all" but other than that nothing.
Maybe it has something to do with keyboard settings like the popup timer or something similar,although my settings are on default. i'll keep trying though.
Thanks for trying to solve this
Lefti said:
Hmm,i might be doing something wrong,i press and hold in the input field for 2secs or so and nothing really happens,well if i press for more the opera menu pops up "select all" but other than that nothing.
Maybe it has something to do with keyboard settings like the popup timer or something similar,although my settings are on default. i'll keep trying though.
Thanks for trying to solve this
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ok, which method are you using to rotate opera? Are you using FlipIt?
I've noticed if I set flipit to 0 and 270 degrees and then enter opera. The first time the keyboard will not pop up. But if I exit opera and then re-enter it works fine.
Have you tried a soft reset?
It seems to be very sensitive. Try using just the tip or nail of your finger in the text entry area for about a second.
It also helps if you double tap to zoom into the text entry box.
I've just tested it by doing it over and over again and using the tip of my finger seems to work every time.
this is very weird,i got it to pop but it is extremely sensitive,dunno what makes it behave like this.
Anyways thanks for the solution guys.

Input problems with ABC type input

Hello there,
after finally repairing my nikes screen, i upgraded to one of those new wm6.5 roms (the ones from NemanjaLO ). Everything works great, except one problem with typing on my 16-key nike: if i type a letter, and remove it before it gets unmarked, it will appear again as soon as i try to continue typing! other people confirmed this issue, however we seemed to be ignored / no one had a solution.
Does anyone know how to fix this?
BJK found an issue with this a while back when he was doing the EZInput 1.5 cabs. Can't remember how he sorted it but might be worth checking the thread in Development and Hacking.
I have the same problem also and I too find it very irritating.
Did you find anything on this?
smittysmitts said:
I have the same problem also and I too find it very irritating.
Did you find anything on this?
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nope, and @randomelements, i wasnt able to find the solution

Phantom screen???

Is anyone having any phantom screen problems?
Every so often but randomly if I leave my Leo on a surface with nothing near it that would trigger the screen it suddenly starts doing stuff! (like menus will open and select things, or the start menu will open and programs will be selected to run)
A bit freaky but wondered if anyone else had experienxced this?
I'm using Engergy ROM March 17 (23547)
nope, not having any of that at all
there has been a post about this a while back and his hd2 was knackered
yes, quite a lot of times...i have the same problem as yours...no matter how many different roms I changed.
Yes mine does this sometimes !
but only when connected to mymobiler !!!
Demon_man said:
there has been a post about this a while back and his hd2 was knackered
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Don't say that!!!
yes i have same problem
i had the same problem and got rid of it by installing a cab file from here. it was build to improve writing and reducing sensitivity. just at the moment i don't have time to search for it, but the thread name includes "3.3" because of the newest version of the cab.
i installed the cab without sensitivity decrease and it works like a charm! it improved writing with swype a lot and the bug you mentioned is gone!

Opera 9.7

I'm not sure if this has been already. covered... but i don't know exactly what to call it... but when i browse using opera.. and use eitherpinch to zoom or the double tap... the page on the screen starts shaking and moving.... like it jumps from one part of the page to another... has there been any fixes or tweaks to at least reduce it? and also do you guys even know what I'm talking about... thanks
hmm... can someone at least tell me the proper name for what i am experiencing so that i can research it myself?
let me answer your question. this problem is caused by text reflow. Period. thats it. that is the answer. you try to zoom on something,you get there, but then the screen jumps all the way to the left for some reason/ yeah. that is reflow at work. and it sucks.
i tried to find a way to disable it for many many days. re-bumping my thread again and again.
there is a way to disable reflow, but it comes at the cost of ugly webpages. usually text are aligned in a way that is not natural.
Search my threads. I am still trying to find a way, but I hoped i answered your question.
let me know if you find something better. =)
You need to download the newest build of Opera 9.7 from this forum. I have build 3600, and it is very smooth. Pinch-to-zoom works properly, text reflow doesnt cause the web page to jump all over the place either.
The update is just an exe file that you overwrite in the Windows directory.
try this. Worked wonders for me
I'm using the 3600 build as well, it's still not perfect in regards to the jumping but it is massively improved.
cj2566 said:
try this. Worked wonders for me
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What exactly does this cab fix cj ?
Marct77 said:
What exactly does this cab fix cj ?
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would like to know as well. you say opera fixeS.what are the fixes?
I second that... would like to know first what the cab does before I install... although I do appreciate the help..everyone answers helped..thanks
ProjektFuze said:
I second that... would like to know first what the cab does before I install... although I do appreciate the help..everyone answers helped..thanks
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I have this installed as well. Its is a conbination of registry hacks to improve the smoothness of Opera. But the main tweak is to change the virtual screen size to 1024 pixels wide. Although you would need to change it to 1020 pixels to ensure that double-tap continues to work in portrait view.
The cab previously posted comes from this thread and page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627441&page=6
Here is another link for Opera Smooth tweaks, which I also installed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=626157
Maybe a combination of the above and build 3600 will change your opinion...

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