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I have this perfect model, but one big problem with t9 entering text. I need disable this funkcion for ever. Can somebody advice?
Hey, I am having the same issue. It always tries to predict / complete my words but it never does it correctly. I have changed it to stop doing it in both the Touch Keyboard settings and the input settings.
Any guidance would be helpful.
This will disable T9 but...
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\ and change the key "XT9SupportMSSip" from value "1" to "0".
... I did this as well as disabling the HTC built in keyboards via SKTools. I also installed 'PCMKeyboard' and 'IM selector' (To set PCM as the default).
In doing all of this, now on reset, one of the HTC keyboards still looks like it's default and I do not get predictive text anymore. Meaning that if I start a new email or sms, enter a letter in the 'To:' field, it wont suggest a contact.
I really haven't poked around as to what is going on so I'm living with it because I like the PCM keyboard to much.
Any help would be great. Thanks!
Your registry advice is not working on my device.
I obtained this reg suggestion through a thread in the 'elf' forum. I needed to use it to enable 'PCMkeyboard'. Sorry, I can no longer find the thread I was reading. You may want try and search for some clues there.
try this
try this
i think it will fix the problem
Hi GUys
The cab file works fine so well done.....
However if you are looking to use your keypad to msg[without T9] it wont work as the file disabled the use of letters, only numbers now work
Any chance that T9 can be turned off and still be able to use keypad to msg as normal.........
Thanks
Has there been any progress on this???
I'm tired of typing using the keyboard, along with the touchscreen and suggestions being made, then if i'm not looking, i press space and it adds the damned suggestion onto what i've typed (for instance: twotoo / memean)
Very annoying when trying to type a text quickly and sneakily in work, as i've got to focus on the text and not who's around me!
If it can be switched off, I would highly appreciate it, I can't find it in the Advanced Config Tool, or under any of the settings.
Thank you,
Hate to do this, but any ideas anyone???
Thank you,
I have the 16 key touch dual.
So on input options, you have the touch keypad, when I select that sometimes this comes out (please see attached)
I like it thought better than the 20 key touch keyboard.
Yeh... Where?
I second this, it works really well but there is no option to bring it up on the dual... it just randomly appears sometimes when you need to input text.
Thirded.
And whats more, why does text input seem to vary on web pages?
I've got some where it defaults to numeric input when it should be alpha numeric (ie. passwords), others where XT9 seems to be off (the subject on mails in facebook).
Its so stupidly all over the place and inconsistent! If I could just get this one to pop up all the time I'd be happy.
Doesn't that keyboard show when there's no text entry field?
And yes, i want it too, why would they disable it for normal usage?
Yeh I have found the keyboard to be all over the place when it comes to deciding if it will give you tx9, abc, 123, etc.... Anyone know a way to set one of the two alphanumerics as a default at least?
ok ive had this appear a few times now but couldnt figure out why, as you have been asking for it i have been playing around and think i know what is causing it. you may not need everything listed below but these are the settings on my device if you play around with them you should be able to narrow it down.
I'm running Toms rom, found here
i have disabled threaded sms by using the second setting here
i have enabled the favourite people button on the htc home screen by deleteing the key here
the only other app i have that may have changed a setting is the HTC home customiser.
After making these changes tick the enable xt9 setting in romsettings app, exit the app, then go back into it and untick the enable t9 setting, after closing romsettings you should have the keyboard shown in the second screen shot
as far as i can see this changes the keyboard in all applications
Thats great! Still albeit of a noob so you lost me somewhere there, is there a way to this on the stock ROM?
short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
kerrance76 said:
short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
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Ok will try that thanks. On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
muzikfreakah said:
On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
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I wish, this has been a problem since the phones release - theres 7 pages on it here
muzikfreakah said:
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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thats the default action anyway, with the changes detailed the keyboard is available when entering text, if you look at the second image you will see that the cursor is actually in the message box, its the black line at the end of the word hello
muzikfreakah said:
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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Eh? Maybe I overdosed on the thick pills last night, but that doesn't make any sense? If I click on a password field in IE, sometimes the main phone keypad always seems to default to numeric entry. But clicking in the field itself pops up this lovely keyboard.
It really does make no sense at all. There doesn't appear to be any standard/global keyboard settings.
And this is in v6 of WinMo, you would have thought they would have got the basics right by now, but the darned sent items has the useless option of "order by from" - when all the sent items are sent from the same person.
Its got plenty of potential, but it just seems like lots of separate teams were implementing it, doing their own thing without any centralised discussion/design.
Has anyone managed to get this to work with the standard T-Mobile [UK] ROM ?
any updates on this as well? it would be nice to just get an option for this
I got it to work, rather by chance, but thing is after that, I could switch to back to the touchpad type anymore.
I installed POCKETCM KEYBOARD. After doing that, somehow it locked this keyboard in when I choose touchpad.
Its rather a workaround, but for those who to use it premanently, you can do it
it also shows up at times when you are entering a password
Ouch ! I read to quickly and did'nt see the word "permanently" !
It does the same for me after installing pocketpc keyboard and even after uninstalling it !!!
Did you find a way to get the classic keyboard back ? This one is nice but there are some important keys missing as "." and a key to hide the keyboard !
Thanks
EDIT : The installation of Resco Keyboard got all the original settings back + Resco Keyboard of course.
So if you need to use the famous "hidden HTC keyboard", simply install Resco Keyboard and then Pocketpc keyboard.
You will then have your classic "touch" keyboards replaced by the "hidden keyboard" (+Resco Keyboard installed of course).
But to my mind, Resco keyboard alone is better...
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EDIT/UPDATE!
My first post only seems to work for WM6.1 Recently I upgraded to WM6.5 and the CABs don't work!
Afer some searching I came across NothingBetterToDo's entry in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563717&page=3 post#26
read that thread further if you have any problems or for additional information
It seems to do the trick in WM6.5!
Read his instructions carefully!! I couldn't find the "IsOtherSIP" entry in my registry so I added it myself and it seems to work fine.
(I used PHM Registry Editor) http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/phmregistryeditor.shtml
I did install the "enablerecognizerswwe.cab" below first, I don't know if that matters anything..
Downside: the LetterRecognizer won't ever show in the pull-up menu so if you change your input method, the only way to get it back is through a soft-reset, which will put it back to the Letter Recognizer. But hey, since this fix will enable the Letter Recognizer, why ever change your input method?!
I'll post it here, many thanks to NothingBetterToDo!!
NothingBetterToDo said:
So sorry for keeping you guys waiting. The following are the steps I took based on my memory.
To enable the Letter Recognizer SIP, set this to 1:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9}\IsSipInputMethod
"Default"="1" – Enabled
You will notice that this will not make the SIP appear, for example, in your SMS application. However, it should appear in the pulldown menu at Start->Settings->Personal->Input. Now, if you try to set the Letter Recognizer as default, thinking that it will appear in SMS application, it doesn't. For some reason, it will always default back to the Touch Input (or EzInput) SIP.
So, the next step is to make the Letter Recognizer SIP the default. To do that, check the value at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip\DefaultIm
It should be "0654897B-B359-473F-B28B-D85CF601C57F" (for Touch Input SIP). Replace that with
"42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9" (for Letter Recognizer SIP).
WARNING -- very very important to make sure the above is entered correctly. According to some posts elsewhere, a non existent SIP can crash your device. You might want to confirm if you have the Letter Recognizer SIP by searching for the msim.dll file. If it exists, I suppose it is probably safe.
After soft reset (power on/off device), you should now see the Letter Recognizer in your SMS application. However, you will also notice it doesn't work properly. For eg, the Capital Letter (left panel) doesn't work, there is this irritating word suggestions thing that keep popping up, it is quite slow and quite inaccurate, the Help doesn't work well.
To resolve these problems, set the following to 1:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\ezsip\IsOtherSip
Do a soft reset and the problems should disappear and you have a good Letter Recognizer to work with (even with fingernail), save for the following problems:
a. Sometimes response may not be very good. Can be quite slow especially if you are entering letters like "i", "r". Maybe this is because of the screen sensitivity.
b. If you click on the little triangle and want to switch to the Touch Input SIP, you can. But the problem is that you can't switch back to the Letter Recognizer anymore unless you do a soft reset. I guess this is OK if you use Letter Recognizer exclusively, but if you want the Chinese Handwriting feature in Touch Input (which is pretty good IMO), then it is not good.
Sorry for the long post. Thought it is better to also share my observations. I am a newbie with registry thing, so I prefer to do step by step and hence many soft resets. If you are gungho enough, just do the steps in bold followed by a soft reset. Hope it works for all you guys.
Note -- if you don't feel safe doing the registry changes, an alternative is to use the Touch Input SIP but set the waiting time to the shortest possible which will reduce the delay. But it is still very irritating to use IMHO.
Cheers
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Originally Posted by NothingBetterToDo. So, many thanks to him for the great solution !!! I am happily using the LetterRecognizer in all applications!
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Ahaa!!! I have discovered why my Leter Recognizer wouldn't work on my newly flashed ROM.
On my Dutch HTC TouchHD the Leter Recognizer didn't come on the OEM standard ROM. Then I installed EnablerecognizersNL.CAB which I still had from my previous HTC (Artemis or XDA Compact III) and it worked like a charm.
Then I flashed my ROM to Dutty's 2.0 and later 2.1 and ARGH! the Letter Recognizer wouldnt work anymore!
It seemed to install fine and it also showed up in the 'other input methods' list but when selected, the normal keyboard would come up instead. It was even listed in the pull down menu to adjust the options in the options/Input Method/settings window but on pressitn the 'options' button I would get a message stating something like 'could not retrieve application'.
Then I tried several other enable recognizers .CAB files, but none worked, except the WWE version, and that is the solution to the problem!
You need to enable the EnableRecognizers.CAB file that is for YOUR language setting, so the NL version worked on my Dutch ROM, but not on my WWE ROM.
Here is the WWE version (post #2)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421157
and here is the Dutch version (post #7)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289839
and here is another, dunno what language (post #2)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469250
I hope this helps other people as it took me a few days before finding this out.
If you have a CAB in a specific language, I suggest you post it in this thread, I'll try posting the above mentioned versions here as well.
Thanks..! Work Fine for me
Thanx!
It works! Got my HTC Touch Diamond just a few weeks ago, and was very frustrated that I didn't have a letter recognizer. I've used serveral pda's (no mobile), got pretty used to the letter recognizer in 7 years... Only one problem... the loss of buttons ;-) No software patch to solve that ;-)
Hi !!
I've tried the CAB's that you post but none of them worked in my htc touch dual.
Do you know a CAB for Portuguese language?
Followed Step 1 (enabling letter recognizer in reg) and it worked! Followed Step 2(setting it as default SIP) and it crashed my HTC Topaz! My phone does HAVE the msim.dll file! I was on Dutty R15 rom. I have to re-flash
BEWARE: Having the msim.dll file does NOT mean it wouldn't crash your phone for Step 2!!!
I do thank NothingBetterToDo for writing that post and Lx for quoting it here. I wish there is aother way to set Letter Recognizer as default SIP. For now, it is better than nothing.
Is there any thing like this for android 4
Is there any thing like this for android 4,
i want to install it on my HTC One X
Hiya xda, longtime reader and I am greatly in debt to you all for your insight into how to best get my Mr. Pocketphone awesome.
So, I have myself a Touch HD and am using Dutty's 3.9 which uses Touchflo 3D 2.0
The input menu on touchflo by default displays only three inputs when you pull it up. The first two are static: phone keypad, and full qwerty. The third one you can change by pulling up the "other input methods" option and selecting an input.
My question is: is it possible to change the first two static input options to something else with a registry tweak or something? I dont really use the phone keypad and would like to replace it with another one I regularly use so I dont have to go to the other input methods menu so often.
I have searched and searched, but cant seem to find an answer.
Any help you guys could provide would be greatly appreciated.
sealedhuman said:
Hiya xda, longtime reader and I am greatly in debt to you all for your insight into how to best get my Mr. Pocketphone awesome.
So, I have myself a Touch HD and am using Dutty's 3.9 which uses Touchflo 3D 2.0
The input menu on touchflo by default displays only three inputs when you pull it up. The first two are static: phone keypad, and full qwerty. The third one you can change by pulling up the "other input methods" option and selecting an input.
My question is: is it possible to change the first two static input options to something else with a registry tweak or something? I dont really use the phone keypad and would like to replace it with another one I regularly use so I dont have to go to the other input methods menu so often.
I have searched and searched, but cant seem to find an answer.
Any help you guys could provide would be greatly appreciated.
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Use the following app SIPChange
Once installed, open up SIPChange and then select whichever keyboard you want to use as default. Now, even after a reset your choice will be default keyboard.
Thanks for the reply. I guess I should be a little more clear though.
I found this solution in the forums already, and thats not exactly what I want to do.
I want to change entrys that pop up when you tap the little arrow next to the keyboard on the bottom of the screen to bring up the entry menu.
On regular Windows mobile when you bring up the entry menu it just lists all the inputs you have installed on one long panel, but on Touchflo 3D there are only three inputs that appear, then to select additional inputs, you must click on the "other input methods" menu option.
My question is: Is there a way to substitute an input from the "other input methods" menu with one on the main input panel?
Of the two that are there by default on the main input panel I only use one, so i would like to substitute it with another input that I use more often, thus saving me the time of having to click the little arrow, then other input methods, then the input.
I guess this is a touchflo 3D specific problem. so i dont know if any registry tweak would fix it. Any help would be great though.
anyone know how to do this?
change order of the input menu entry's?
Is it possible to install Handwriting Recognition & Accelerometer on Touch2 ??
I miss these functionalities on this, which is otherwise a great phone to own.
Handwriting recognition, try MyScript Stylus.
As for accelerometer, thats hardware, not software, so no.
Look at the article here:
Sorry had to post the content, cause it would'nt allo me to link since I am a new user:
Originally Posted by NothingBetterToDo View Post
So sorry for keeping you guys waiting. The following are the steps I took based on my memory.
To enable the Letter Recognizer SIP, set this to 1:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9}\IsSipInputMethod
"Default"="1" – Enabled
You will notice that this will not make the SIP appear, for example, in your SMS application. However, it should appear in the pulldown menu at Start->Settings->Personal->Input. Now, if you try to set the Letter Recognizer as default, thinking that it will appear in SMS application, it doesn't. For some reason, it will always default back to the Touch Input (or EzInput) SIP.
So, the next step is to make the Letter Recognizer SIP the default. To do that, check the value at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip\DefaultIm
It should be "0654897B-B359-473F-B28B-D85CF601C57F" (for Touch Input SIP). Replace that with
"42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9" (for Letter Recognizer SIP).
WARNING -- very very important to make sure the above is entered correctly. According to some posts elsewhere, a non existent SIP can crash your device. You might want to confirm if you have the Letter Recognizer SIP by searching for the msim.dll file. If it exists, I suppose it is probably safe.
After soft reset (power on/off device), you should now see the Letter Recognizer in your SMS application. However, you will also notice it doesn't work properly. For eg, the Capital Letter (left panel) doesn't work, there is this irritating word suggestions thing that keep popping up, it is quite slow and quite inaccurate, the Help doesn't work well.
To resolve these problems, set the following to 1:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\ezsip\IsOtherSip
Do a soft reset and the problems should disappear and you have a good Letter Recognizer to work with (even with fingernail), save for the following problems:
a. Sometimes response may not be very good. Can be quite slow especially if you are entering letters like "i", "r". Maybe this is because of the screen sensitivity.
b. If you click on the little triangle and want to switch to the Touch Input SIP, you can. But the problem is that you can't switch back to the Letter Recognizer anymore unless you do a soft reset. I guess this is OK if you use Letter Recognizer exclusively, but if you want the Chinese Handwriting feature in Touch Input (which is pretty good IMO), then it is not good.
Sorry for the long post. Thought it is better to also share my observations. I am a newbie with registry thing, so I prefer to do step by step and hence many soft resets. If you are gungho enough, just do the steps in bold followed by a soft reset. Hope it works for all you guys.
Note -- if you don't feel safe doing the registry changes, an alternative is to use the Touch Input SIP but set the waiting time to the shortest possible which will reduce the delay. But it is still very irritating to use IMHO.
Cheers
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the example describes how to enable the letter recogniser by editing the system registry, personally I favour block recogniser and I set up mine just last nigh using the article as a reference but used the code: {42429691-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9} for block recogniser.
You will also need a registry editor on the phone or a PC based one. They're discussed in this forum but I cannot find them again, I've attached the one I downloaded from the forum.
I have'nt seen anything on accelerometers yet. I think that requires a hardware feature in the phone and as far as I am aware that's not built into the Touch2(Mega) model.
Accelerometer is indeed hardware. As for reg tweaks, i wouldnt recommend it if you're unsure what you're doing. MyScript Stylus offers hand writing recognition without tinkering with your registry.
Microsoft's Transcriber is another option for handwriting.. It's free and available at microsoft's website. I am using it without any problem.
you can download it from here
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...c3-2eee-41e3-9339-f7b303f4b386&displaylang=en
Hi Uppy,
Can u pls attach MyScript Stylus software?
Thanks Guys.
I've installed Transcriber and it seems to be working fine at the moment.
Hi
I installed Transcriber.cab
Can somebody tell me how to use it?
Plzzz
I am not able to see the Transcriber after installing
It doesnt appear any where
ganesh.htc, check your PMs
ganesh.htc said:
I am not able to see the Transcriber after installing
It doesnt appear any where
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1. double tap at keyboard. It'll show u option.
or
2. Start > Settings > Personal > Input.
Choose Transcriber from the list
i did double tap at keyboard. Its not showing any Transcriber options
I even did . Start > Settings > Personal > Input->Choose Transcriber from the list, but after wards by default Touch Input is been selected.
I think we should do some thing to make Transcriber as default.
I got bored.
MyScript in action
ganesh.htc said:
i did double tap at keyboard. Its not showing any Transcriber options
I even did . Start > Settings > Personal > Input->Choose Transcriber from the list, but after wards by default Touch Input is been selected.
I think we should do some thing to make Transcriber as default.
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Have you installed it in Phone Memory????
Following the thread - "Letter Recognizer / Block Recognizer" sure did help.
Thanks all.
"Originally Posted by NothingBetterToDo View Post
So sorry for keeping you guys waiting. The following are the steps I took based on my memory.
To enable the Letter Recognizer SIP, set this to 1:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9}\IsSipInputMethod
"Default"="1" – Enabled
You will notice that this will not make the SIP appear, for example, in your SMS application. However, it should appear in the pulldown menu at Start->Settings->Personal->Input. Now, if you try to set the Letter Recognizer as default, thinking that it will appear in SMS application, it doesn't. For some reason, it will always default back to the Touch Input (or EzInput) SIP.
So, the next step is to make the Letter Recognizer SIP the default. To do that, check the value at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip\DefaultIm
It should be "0654897B-B359-473F-B28B-D85CF601C57F" (for Touch Input SIP). Replace that with
"42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9" (for Letter Recognizer SIP).
WARNING -- very very important to make sure the above is entered correctly. According to some posts elsewhere, a non existent SIP can crash your device. You might want to confirm if you have the Letter Recognizer SIP by searching for the msim.dll file. If it exists, I suppose it is probably safe.
After soft reset (power on/off device), you should now see the Letter Recognizer in your SMS application. However, you will also notice it doesn't work properly. For eg, the Capital Letter (left panel) doesn't work, there is this irritating word suggestions thing that keep popping up, it is quite slow and quite inaccurate, the Help doesn't work well.
To resolve these problems, set the following to 1:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\ezsip\IsOtherSip
Do a soft reset and the problems should disappear and you have a good Letter Recognizer to work with (even with fingernail), save for the following problems:
a. Sometimes response may not be very good. Can be quite slow especially if you are entering letters like "i", "r". Maybe this is because of the screen sensitivity.
b. If you click on the little triangle and want to switch to the Touch Input SIP, you can. But the problem is that you can't switch back to the Letter Recognizer anymore unless you do a soft reset. I guess this is OK if you use Letter Recognizer exclusively, but if you want the Chinese Handwriting feature in Touch Input (which is pretty good IMO), then it is not good.
Sorry for the long post. Thought it is better to also share my observations. I am a newbie with registry thing, so I prefer to do step by step and hence many soft resets. If you are gungho enough, just do the steps in bold followed by a soft reset. Hope it works for all you guys.
Note -- if you don't feel safe doing the registry changes, an alternative is to use the Touch Input SIP but set the waiting time to the shortest possible which will reduce the delay. But it is still very irritating to use IMHO.
Cheers "
Hi, I just couldn't make it work for my HTC Touch2. Im using the WM6.5 original from HTC and the second value "It should be "0654897B-B359-473F-B28B-D85CF601C57F" (for Touch Input SIP)" is diferrent for me. Miine instead is "36BC8FF6-8241-4C36-ABDE-204885.
my device crashed after i followed all the above procedure, and i had to hard reset it to get it back, Ive tried it 3-4 times with the same unfortunate result.
Pls help, letter recogniser is a MUST for me and with the Touch2 im facing so many difficulties in my job... Thnx
@spandeli: Great find! But I dont recommend this method over mystylus, not because it doesn't work but because there are certain people who don't know what they are doing who will try this, go wrong and balls their phones up.
I mean if certain people dont know how to turn touchflo on and off (as i've seen several times, one of which even hard reset their phone cause they didnt think to look in "settings") Reg hacks are not recommended, for newbies, at least.
Installed Transcriber.cab , Chose transcriber as default. Went to text and it was still normal. When i check back at settings it seems to have gone back to Touch Input.. help?