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Where does this keyboard come from?

I have the 16 key touch dual.
So on input options, you have the touch keypad, when I select that sometimes this comes out (please see attached)
I like it thought better than the 20 key touch keyboard.

Yeh... Where?
I second this, it works really well but there is no option to bring it up on the dual... it just randomly appears sometimes when you need to input text.

Thirded.
And whats more, why does text input seem to vary on web pages?
I've got some where it defaults to numeric input when it should be alpha numeric (ie. passwords), others where XT9 seems to be off (the subject on mails in facebook).
Its so stupidly all over the place and inconsistent! If I could just get this one to pop up all the time I'd be happy.

Doesn't that keyboard show when there's no text entry field?
And yes, i want it too, why would they disable it for normal usage?

Yeh I have found the keyboard to be all over the place when it comes to deciding if it will give you tx9, abc, 123, etc.... Anyone know a way to set one of the two alphanumerics as a default at least?

ok ive had this appear a few times now but couldnt figure out why, as you have been asking for it i have been playing around and think i know what is causing it. you may not need everything listed below but these are the settings on my device if you play around with them you should be able to narrow it down.
I'm running Toms rom, found here
i have disabled threaded sms by using the second setting here
i have enabled the favourite people button on the htc home screen by deleteing the key here
the only other app i have that may have changed a setting is the HTC home customiser.
After making these changes tick the enable xt9 setting in romsettings app, exit the app, then go back into it and untick the enable t9 setting, after closing romsettings you should have the keyboard shown in the second screen shot
as far as i can see this changes the keyboard in all applications

Thats great! Still albeit of a noob so you lost me somewhere there, is there a way to this on the stock ROM?

short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.

kerrance76 said:
short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
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Ok will try that thanks. On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?

I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.

muzikfreakah said:
On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
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I wish, this has been a problem since the phones release - theres 7 pages on it here

muzikfreakah said:
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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thats the default action anyway, with the changes detailed the keyboard is available when entering text, if you look at the second image you will see that the cursor is actually in the message box, its the black line at the end of the word hello

muzikfreakah said:
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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Eh? Maybe I overdosed on the thick pills last night, but that doesn't make any sense? If I click on a password field in IE, sometimes the main phone keypad always seems to default to numeric entry. But clicking in the field itself pops up this lovely keyboard.
It really does make no sense at all. There doesn't appear to be any standard/global keyboard settings.
And this is in v6 of WinMo, you would have thought they would have got the basics right by now, but the darned sent items has the useless option of "order by from" - when all the sent items are sent from the same person.
Its got plenty of potential, but it just seems like lots of separate teams were implementing it, doing their own thing without any centralised discussion/design.

Has anyone managed to get this to work with the standard T-Mobile [UK] ROM ?

any updates on this as well? it would be nice to just get an option for this

I got it to work, rather by chance, but thing is after that, I could switch to back to the touchpad type anymore.
I installed POCKETCM KEYBOARD. After doing that, somehow it locked this keyboard in when I choose touchpad.
Its rather a workaround, but for those who to use it premanently, you can do it

it also shows up at times when you are entering a password

Ouch ! I read to quickly and did'nt see the word "permanently" !
It does the same for me after installing pocketpc keyboard and even after uninstalling it !!!
Did you find a way to get the classic keyboard back ? This one is nice but there are some important keys missing as "." and a key to hide the keyboard !
Thanks
EDIT : The installation of Resco Keyboard got all the original settings back + Resco Keyboard of course.
So if you need to use the famous "hidden HTC keyboard", simply install Resco Keyboard and then Pocketpc keyboard.
You will then have your classic "touch" keyboards replaced by the "hidden keyboard" (+Resco Keyboard installed of course).
But to my mind, Resco keyboard alone is better...

XT9 default words - Edit the dictionary

Hey guys,
There is only one thing that I can not seem to sort so far on my Touch Dual. Is it at all possible to edit the defaults when typing out on the keypad. I can repeatedly hit "2" and then change it over to "a" so that it defaults to this...only problem is that it reverts back to "c" when I go onto the next message.
Same goes with some of the new words I have added, it now switches over to them all the time which is just annoying.

try this for the a and c
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=370485&highlight=modaco+fix

Fantastic stuff, thank you for that. Now I just need to work out how to edit some of the other ones that annoy me.

Great now all im looking for is easy instructions on how to edit the xt9 'database'.

This is an excellent fix. Thanks!!
Another annoyance however, when typing 'an' it presents 'co'. Any way of changing this to be 'an' in a similar way please?
Thanks
gjrober

HTC SIPs stuck on numeric input?

Hi all,
I'm having a problem with the HTC SIPs (Full Qwerty and Compact Qwerty) - they're both stuck on numeric input and won't switch back to text input mode.
ie, I click on the "ABC" button and nothing happens. I therefore can't enter anything other than numbers and symbols!
Has anyone else seen this issue? I'm having to use PCM Keyboard in the meantime, which is frustrating as it doesn't have easy access to "." etc.
Thanks
J

PCM Keyboard prevents the HTC SIPs from working properly. Either remove PCK Keyboard or try the latest version (0.19)

I have the same problem
I have the same problem.
I haven't installed any additional keyboard software, and suddenly my text keyboard is stuck on numerics.
I have a feeling this may have been something to do with the latest firmware from HTC that I've recently installed.
Anyone got any ideas?
Thanks in advance
Pete

Petee said:
I have the same problem.
I haven't installed any additional keyboard software, and suddenly my text keyboard is stuck on numerics.
I have a feeling this may have been something to do with the latest firmware from HTC that I've recently installed.
Anyone got any ideas?
Thanks in advance
Pete
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Do you have HD Tweak installed?
this will happen if you enable T9

Sorted
Yep, that was it
Sorted - Thankyouverymuchsir

okay so I too now have this same problem, originally I had Dutty's Leo R6 on my phone with HDTweak so I decided to reflash my phone with Dutty's Leo R7 and this time not install HDTweak and see if it works.... But even after doing that, I still keep getting all 3 types of the keyboard inputs stuck on numbers and symbols. after a soft reset whenever I try and type in a text, the first time it usually works fine. But after I have sent the 1st message or just returned to the home tab and try to write another msg, all input keyboards are stuck. Note: I can temporarily fix it by clicking on a previous message, waiting for the menu to popup from the threaded view and then closing it, but after writing that message it will revert back to being stuck
So no HDTweak installed, using new HTC Messaging App, have turned off T9 Autocompletion + Symbol Lock under Input Options and I have also tried installing geniusgeng's cab here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486187&highlight=[solution]+qwerty+keyboard but that doesn't work...any thoughts on how I can fix this with something more permanent?
Thanks

Not sure of any reg tweaks, but why don't you install HD Tweak and then disable T9

Hey, thanks for the amazingly fast reply!!!
okay so I just tried reinstalling HDTweak again and disabling T9, but its still not working I keep having the same trouble. I have also tried all different combinations of disabling T9 only in HDTweak, or both HDTweak and under Input Options and only in Input Options and so on.... but the problem doesn't seem to get resolved.
I have experimented some more and it turns out that the keyboard will only get stuck when I go to the messages tab and click on a text I received to reply to it. If i go to the messages tab and create a new message (where I have to enter in the contact and can't see the threaded msgs) then the keyboard is fine all the time. Does anyone else have this same problem as well, or is it just me?
I would really prefer to be able to quickly reply to texts instead of creating new messages every time...gonna try disabling the htc messaging app (was going to anyway cause it takes waaaay too loooong lol) and see if that magically works
Thanks again!

I had a similar problem and fixed it
I logged on here to see if someone could tell me how to fix my issue, but it is regarding an HTC HD2, not a Blackberry. My problem was similar but not exactly the same. My phone somehow permanently got stuck on Xt9, which I hate and am worthless at using. I couldn't seem to find the answer anywhere online so i'm writing my experience here in case it helps anyone.
Hitting the XT9 / ABC button did NOTHING to fix it. Even though the button would visually change from XT9 to ABC and back, when I hit it (it would change to a green color), the keys themselves would not change at all, and i was stuck looking at keys that make zero sense to me qw... er...ty... ui.... it was like a bad nightmare. I have no idea how I managed to get it stuck on this (sorry I know most of you techies probably have no problem with it but I am just not very tech savvy).
I tried taking out my battery, popping the sim card in and out several times, restarting. Sounds stupid but I didn't know what else to do as I couldn't find any solutions online. Finally called tmobile.
First the rep told me to try going to Settings > Locale and Text > Text Input. She asked what my settings were on, I said ABC. She told me to turn it to XT9 instead, then close out the screen, go back, then switch back to ABC. I did that, and no dice. I figured either the settings are frozen or I'm cursed.
Then she had me go to the screen to write a text msg. When your cursor is in the text box to write in, you will see a little keyboard icon at the bottom of the screen. There's a little arrow next to it. Click on that arrow. That brought up the options of Full QWERTY and Compact QWERTY, and apparently somehow my phone got switched to Compact QWERTY. So I switched back, and that fixed it.
So yeah, apparently there are a couple of different ways to change it.
I wanted to hug this woman through the phone, i was so relieved to be able to text again (I could not write out one single word while on Compact QWERTY). I'm not sure if going this route can help anyone else but it was the answer for me. There may be other options for you when you click on the arrow next to the keyboard.
Good luck!

Touchpal freezing

Hi,
I use Touchpal V3.5 and i absolutely love it, if you haven't tired it I highly recommend it, especially good is the mixed language input and I actually type faster using touchpal+gsen in landscape mode than I did with a hardware keyboard (a worry that almost prevented me from buying this marvelous device). I do have two little niggles that would be great if i could overcome somehow:
1. Setting Touchpal to the default keyboard does not stick after a restart/reset. I have to change the keyboard each time i start up. I tried SIP Change but it doesn't seem to have an option for running at start-up....anyone know if i can get at the registry somewhere or something?
2. When I first open it, if i try to type in Chinese before using English, it freezes in a bad way, disabling EVERY window that tries to call the sip and requiring a soft reset to make the phone useable again. If I open it, type something in english, and then switch the input to chinese it runs like a charm until I restart again...what is that about?
Actually neither of these issues is a deal breaker, but it would be nice not to have to worry about it, is anyone else having these troubles?...any suggestions are greatly appreciated!

touchpal
i have touchpal also and cant keep it as default. Ive tried all the fixes there are on all the threads. Doesnt work for Touchpal. any suggestions or fixes would be greatly appreciated.

Well I figured out the answer to problem one on my own...TF3D takes a little time to load and interferes with SipChange so you need to adjust the delay so as to happen after TF3D is finished.
Just tap SIPChange, select the IM you want, and set the time to 45 seconds (shorter may work). Bingo, stays the default IM on restart

whats the difference (apart from it's tabulated) between touchpal and "compact QWERTY" mode keyboard?

you also need to Go make this change: HKCU\Software\HTC\BootLauncher\Apps and remove the folder called "Startkey"

I have the same problem with touchpal, where do i do this?
Just tap SIPChange, select the IM you want, and set the time to 45 seconds (shorter may work). Bingo, stays the default IM on restart

@FRUSTIN:
TOuchpal is third-party software by CooTek, "Compact Querty" is just a different layout for the tock HTC input method. TOuchpal is MUCH more feature rich and just kicks the [email protected] out of the default keyboard in every way, it supports tons of languages and multi-language input (go back and forth between two languages in the same sentence without changing any settings), web hotkeys, adds copy/cut/paste and D-pad to EVERY app, etc. check it out at www.cootek.com
@DIAMONDBS:
I did NOT do that and it works perfectly for me...why do you need to remove an entire folder from the registry? Can anone confirm this?
@WEETABIX1980:
Just go to start>programs>SIP Change, when the program opens you select Touchpal from the list of input methods and then change the numbers in the box below the list to 45, then click "Select"...should be the only button there...tapping "OK" is not good enough, be sure to tap "Select"

thanks, any clue what sip change in dutch is in the programs?

anyone knows this?

SIPChange is a little tool developed here at XDA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271008
Download the cab to your phone and install. This should then give you the options mentioned above.

Touchpal intermittantly hangs on me aswell. I post on here about it before. I tried allsorts to cure it (hard resets, clean installs etc). So annoying when demoing the phone to a friend and all of a sudden the keyboard hangs and wont popup.
I used to love Touchpal, now I hate it and will not install it on my phone.

Handwriting Recognition.

Is it possible to install Handwriting Recognition & Accelerometer on Touch2 ??
I miss these functionalities on this, which is otherwise a great phone to own.

Handwriting recognition, try MyScript Stylus.
As for accelerometer, thats hardware, not software, so no.

Look at the article here:
Sorry had to post the content, cause it would'nt allo me to link since I am a new user:
Originally Posted by NothingBetterToDo View Post
So sorry for keeping you guys waiting. The following are the steps I took based on my memory.
To enable the Letter Recognizer SIP, set this to 1:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9}\IsSipInputMethod
"Default"="1" – Enabled
You will notice that this will not make the SIP appear, for example, in your SMS application. However, it should appear in the pulldown menu at Start->Settings->Personal->Input. Now, if you try to set the Letter Recognizer as default, thinking that it will appear in SMS application, it doesn't. For some reason, it will always default back to the Touch Input (or EzInput) SIP.
So, the next step is to make the Letter Recognizer SIP the default. To do that, check the value at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip\DefaultIm
It should be "0654897B-B359-473F-B28B-D85CF601C57F" (for Touch Input SIP). Replace that with
"42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9" (for Letter Recognizer SIP).
WARNING -- very very important to make sure the above is entered correctly. According to some posts elsewhere, a non existent SIP can crash your device. You might want to confirm if you have the Letter Recognizer SIP by searching for the msim.dll file. If it exists, I suppose it is probably safe.
After soft reset (power on/off device), you should now see the Letter Recognizer in your SMS application. However, you will also notice it doesn't work properly. For eg, the Capital Letter (left panel) doesn't work, there is this irritating word suggestions thing that keep popping up, it is quite slow and quite inaccurate, the Help doesn't work well.
To resolve these problems, set the following to 1:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\ezsip\IsOtherSip
Do a soft reset and the problems should disappear and you have a good Letter Recognizer to work with (even with fingernail), save for the following problems:
a. Sometimes response may not be very good. Can be quite slow especially if you are entering letters like "i", "r". Maybe this is because of the screen sensitivity.
b. If you click on the little triangle and want to switch to the Touch Input SIP, you can. But the problem is that you can't switch back to the Letter Recognizer anymore unless you do a soft reset. I guess this is OK if you use Letter Recognizer exclusively, but if you want the Chinese Handwriting feature in Touch Input (which is pretty good IMO), then it is not good.
Sorry for the long post. Thought it is better to also share my observations. I am a newbie with registry thing, so I prefer to do step by step and hence many soft resets. If you are gungho enough, just do the steps in bold followed by a soft reset. Hope it works for all you guys.
Note -- if you don't feel safe doing the registry changes, an alternative is to use the Touch Input SIP but set the waiting time to the shortest possible which will reduce the delay. But it is still very irritating to use IMHO.
Cheers
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the example describes how to enable the letter recogniser by editing the system registry, personally I favour block recogniser and I set up mine just last nigh using the article as a reference but used the code: {42429691-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9} for block recogniser.
You will also need a registry editor on the phone or a PC based one. They're discussed in this forum but I cannot find them again, I've attached the one I downloaded from the forum.
I have'nt seen anything on accelerometers yet. I think that requires a hardware feature in the phone and as far as I am aware that's not built into the Touch2(Mega) model.

Accelerometer is indeed hardware. As for reg tweaks, i wouldnt recommend it if you're unsure what you're doing. MyScript Stylus offers hand writing recognition without tinkering with your registry.

Microsoft's Transcriber is another option for handwriting.. It's free and available at microsoft's website. I am using it without any problem.
you can download it from here
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...c3-2eee-41e3-9339-f7b303f4b386&displaylang=en

Hi Uppy,
Can u pls attach MyScript Stylus software?

Thanks Guys.
I've installed Transcriber and it seems to be working fine at the moment.

Hi
I installed Transcriber.cab
Can somebody tell me how to use it?
Plzzz

I am not able to see the Transcriber after installing
It doesnt appear any where

ganesh.htc, check your PMs

ganesh.htc said:
I am not able to see the Transcriber after installing
It doesnt appear any where
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1. double tap at keyboard. It'll show u option.
or
2. Start > Settings > Personal > Input.
Choose Transcriber from the list

i did double tap at keyboard. Its not showing any Transcriber options
I even did . Start > Settings > Personal > Input->Choose Transcriber from the list, but after wards by default Touch Input is been selected.
I think we should do some thing to make Transcriber as default.

I got bored.
MyScript in action

ganesh.htc said:
i did double tap at keyboard. Its not showing any Transcriber options
I even did . Start > Settings > Personal > Input->Choose Transcriber from the list, but after wards by default Touch Input is been selected.
I think we should do some thing to make Transcriber as default.
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Have you installed it in Phone Memory????

Following the thread - "Letter Recognizer / Block Recognizer" sure did help.
Thanks all.

"Originally Posted by NothingBetterToDo View Post
So sorry for keeping you guys waiting. The following are the steps I took based on my memory.
To enable the Letter Recognizer SIP, set this to 1:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9}\IsSipInputMethod
"Default"="1" – Enabled
You will notice that this will not make the SIP appear, for example, in your SMS application. However, it should appear in the pulldown menu at Start->Settings->Personal->Input. Now, if you try to set the Letter Recognizer as default, thinking that it will appear in SMS application, it doesn't. For some reason, it will always default back to the Touch Input (or EzInput) SIP.
So, the next step is to make the Letter Recognizer SIP the default. To do that, check the value at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip\DefaultIm
It should be "0654897B-B359-473F-B28B-D85CF601C57F" (for Touch Input SIP). Replace that with
"42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9" (for Letter Recognizer SIP).
WARNING -- very very important to make sure the above is entered correctly. According to some posts elsewhere, a non existent SIP can crash your device. You might want to confirm if you have the Letter Recognizer SIP by searching for the msim.dll file. If it exists, I suppose it is probably safe.
After soft reset (power on/off device), you should now see the Letter Recognizer in your SMS application. However, you will also notice it doesn't work properly. For eg, the Capital Letter (left panel) doesn't work, there is this irritating word suggestions thing that keep popping up, it is quite slow and quite inaccurate, the Help doesn't work well.
To resolve these problems, set the following to 1:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\ezsip\IsOtherSip
Do a soft reset and the problems should disappear and you have a good Letter Recognizer to work with (even with fingernail), save for the following problems:
a. Sometimes response may not be very good. Can be quite slow especially if you are entering letters like "i", "r". Maybe this is because of the screen sensitivity.
b. If you click on the little triangle and want to switch to the Touch Input SIP, you can. But the problem is that you can't switch back to the Letter Recognizer anymore unless you do a soft reset. I guess this is OK if you use Letter Recognizer exclusively, but if you want the Chinese Handwriting feature in Touch Input (which is pretty good IMO), then it is not good.
Sorry for the long post. Thought it is better to also share my observations. I am a newbie with registry thing, so I prefer to do step by step and hence many soft resets. If you are gungho enough, just do the steps in bold followed by a soft reset. Hope it works for all you guys.
Note -- if you don't feel safe doing the registry changes, an alternative is to use the Touch Input SIP but set the waiting time to the shortest possible which will reduce the delay. But it is still very irritating to use IMHO.
Cheers "
Hi, I just couldn't make it work for my HTC Touch2. Im using the WM6.5 original from HTC and the second value "It should be "0654897B-B359-473F-B28B-D85CF601C57F" (for Touch Input SIP)" is diferrent for me. Miine instead is "36BC8FF6-8241-4C36-ABDE-204885.
my device crashed after i followed all the above procedure, and i had to hard reset it to get it back, Ive tried it 3-4 times with the same unfortunate result.
Pls help, letter recogniser is a MUST for me and with the Touch2 im facing so many difficulties in my job... Thnx

@spandeli: Great find! But I dont recommend this method over mystylus, not because it doesn't work but because there are certain people who don't know what they are doing who will try this, go wrong and balls their phones up.
I mean if certain people dont know how to turn touchflo on and off (as i've seen several times, one of which even hard reset their phone cause they didnt think to look in "settings") Reg hacks are not recommended, for newbies, at least.

Installed Transcriber.cab , Chose transcriber as default. Went to text and it was still normal. When i check back at settings it seems to have gone back to Touch Input.. help?