I have the 16 key touch dual.
So on input options, you have the touch keypad, when I select that sometimes this comes out (please see attached)
I like it thought better than the 20 key touch keyboard.
Yeh... Where?
I second this, it works really well but there is no option to bring it up on the dual... it just randomly appears sometimes when you need to input text.
Thirded.
And whats more, why does text input seem to vary on web pages?
I've got some where it defaults to numeric input when it should be alpha numeric (ie. passwords), others where XT9 seems to be off (the subject on mails in facebook).
Its so stupidly all over the place and inconsistent! If I could just get this one to pop up all the time I'd be happy.
Doesn't that keyboard show when there's no text entry field?
And yes, i want it too, why would they disable it for normal usage?
Yeh I have found the keyboard to be all over the place when it comes to deciding if it will give you tx9, abc, 123, etc.... Anyone know a way to set one of the two alphanumerics as a default at least?
ok ive had this appear a few times now but couldnt figure out why, as you have been asking for it i have been playing around and think i know what is causing it. you may not need everything listed below but these are the settings on my device if you play around with them you should be able to narrow it down.
I'm running Toms rom, found here
i have disabled threaded sms by using the second setting here
i have enabled the favourite people button on the htc home screen by deleteing the key here
the only other app i have that may have changed a setting is the HTC home customiser.
After making these changes tick the enable xt9 setting in romsettings app, exit the app, then go back into it and untick the enable t9 setting, after closing romsettings you should have the keyboard shown in the second screen shot
as far as i can see this changes the keyboard in all applications
Thats great! Still albeit of a noob so you lost me somewhere there, is there a way to this on the stock ROM?
short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
kerrance76 said:
short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
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Ok will try that thanks. On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
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I wish, this has been a problem since the phones release - theres 7 pages on it here
muzikfreakah said:
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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thats the default action anyway, with the changes detailed the keyboard is available when entering text, if you look at the second image you will see that the cursor is actually in the message box, its the black line at the end of the word hello
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I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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Eh? Maybe I overdosed on the thick pills last night, but that doesn't make any sense? If I click on a password field in IE, sometimes the main phone keypad always seems to default to numeric entry. But clicking in the field itself pops up this lovely keyboard.
It really does make no sense at all. There doesn't appear to be any standard/global keyboard settings.
And this is in v6 of WinMo, you would have thought they would have got the basics right by now, but the darned sent items has the useless option of "order by from" - when all the sent items are sent from the same person.
Its got plenty of potential, but it just seems like lots of separate teams were implementing it, doing their own thing without any centralised discussion/design.
Has anyone managed to get this to work with the standard T-Mobile [UK] ROM ?
any updates on this as well? it would be nice to just get an option for this
I got it to work, rather by chance, but thing is after that, I could switch to back to the touchpad type anymore.
I installed POCKETCM KEYBOARD. After doing that, somehow it locked this keyboard in when I choose touchpad.
Its rather a workaround, but for those who to use it premanently, you can do it
it also shows up at times when you are entering a password
Ouch ! I read to quickly and did'nt see the word "permanently" !
It does the same for me after installing pocketpc keyboard and even after uninstalling it !!!
Did you find a way to get the classic keyboard back ? This one is nice but there are some important keys missing as "." and a key to hide the keyboard !
Thanks
EDIT : The installation of Resco Keyboard got all the original settings back + Resco Keyboard of course.
So if you need to use the famous "hidden HTC keyboard", simply install Resco Keyboard and then Pocketpc keyboard.
You will then have your classic "touch" keyboards replaced by the "hidden keyboard" (+Resco Keyboard installed of course).
But to my mind, Resco keyboard alone is better...
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These two programs rock! I find myself using the pcmkeyboard (WITHOUT autocorrect) all the time. POcketcm.. not so much..
It's great to show it to people, but honestly I'm faster with t9 contact searches such as what the htc dialer uses.. The threading SMS is great though - now if it would only integrate with SPB's mobile shell so that the messaging options shows it
PCMKeyboard's autocorrect keeps getting in my way. I've had to disable it as it usually uncorrects words that are fine to start with.. Would love to see an option to quickly enable/disable this from the keyboard screen and without going to the options...
I'll type up a quick email/sms, then look back and realize that the words had been changed on me..
Overall - I'm pretty much as-fast on the hardware keyboard on my ppc-6800 as with pcmkeyboard - which says a lot about a soft keyboard...
Keep up the great work!
-mark
diomark said:
These two programs rock! I find myself using the pcmkeyboard (WITHOUT autocorrect) all the time. POcketcm.. not so much..
It's great to show it to people, but honestly I'm faster with t9 contact searches such as what the htc dialer uses.. The threading SMS is great though - now if it would only integrate with SPB's mobile shell so that the messaging options shows it
PCMKeyboard's autocorrect keeps getting in my way. I've had to disable it as it usually uncorrects words that are fine to start with.. Would love to see an option to quickly enable/disable this from the keyboard screen and without going to the options...
I'll type up a quick email/sms, then look back and realize that the words had been changed on me..
Overall - I'm pretty much as-fast on the hardware keyboard on my ppc-6800 as with pcmkeyboard - which says a lot about a soft keyboard...
Keep up the great work!
-mark
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I'm using the pcm keyboard, also. and there is an option to turn off auto correct and suggest words. Uncheck the box that says enable auto correct. The downsides I've found with the pcm keyboard is there's no option to make it the default keyboard, and I have to redo everything after start ups.
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try this to set up your fav. default
http://www.mm.pl/~xoen/SIPChange.CAB
hotdog53 said:
I'm using the pcm keyboard, also. and there is an option to turn off auto correct and suggest words. Uncheck the box that says enable auto correct. The downsides I've found with the pcm keyboard is there's no option to make it the default keyboard, and I have to redo everything after start ups.
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I know you can disable it - mine is disabled.. I just wish the auto-correct was a bit easier to disable/enable on demand...
i.e. when I'm typing a URL, I don't need autocorrect (in fact 9 times out of 10 it gets in the way and I have to tell it to revert..).. but it's helpful for fast sms messages...
-m
thank god for pcm keyboard.
I just updated pocket cm, so still reviewing.
there is a sipchange app to set default the keyboard.
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I'm using the pcm keyboard, also. and there is an option to turn off auto correct and suggest words. Uncheck the box that says enable auto correct. The downsides I've found with the pcm keyboard is there's no option to make it the default keyboard, and I have to redo everything after start ups.
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Well i am a happy user of pocketcm but i don't like pcmkeyboard , the layout is just to small for my fingers , i would like to see more rows. like:
qwerty
uiop
asdf
ghjkl
zxc
bnm
so that the keys can be bigger and more finger friendly , now i use phonepad intl from mccune with t9
You can actually make the program behave that way by creating a settings file. However, by doing this it will take up most if not all of the screen
ArrO said:
Well i am a happy user of pocketcm but i don't like pcmkeyboard , the layout is just to small for my fingers , i would like to see more rows. like:
qwerty
uiop
asdf
ghjkl
zxc
bnm
so that the keys can be bigger and more finger friendly , now i use phonepad intl from mccune with t9
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I dont like the fact that when ever I get a text message Pocket CM opens, I'd prefer just to have the normal notification... anyone know how to stop this - Also the whole loading previous conversations is way to looong!
I think I'd be happier if it were a contact manager and not a content manager.
I like the slickness of this program - Very good - waiting for the next release!
Would someone please tell me how to get rid of this new autocomplete, it's really slowing me down...I already tried turning off Word Completion in Settings -> Input.
I haven't seen that type of auto-complete before, but it looks rather good. What SIP are you using? Is it a new function in the latest ROM's or have you added a third party SIP?
Came with my Sprint Touch. It shows up whenever I use the built in block recognizer. Normally I wouldn't mind since it can be helpful for those really long words, but this one really really slows down my Touch and causes my strokes to be recognized incorrectly
Seemed to have figured it out, I just had to disable the Wordcompletion keys under HKLM\Software\Tegic
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I haven't seen that type of auto-complete before, but it looks rather good. What SIP are you using? Is it a new function in the latest ROM's or have you added a third party SIP?
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It also looks like this is provided by the new fullscreen keyboard SIP added to the Sprint Touch
comes in the new rom.. i cant find anyway to off it too..
I installed the new Touch Keyboard and Touch Keypad found in these pages (somewhere ?? sorry not sure...) and this now appears on the default keyboard.
Totally agree: it sucks big time. I couldn't find a way to turn it off also, so I eventually flash a rom without it
hi EliteXen,
could you be more specific which reg key under
HKLM\Software\Tegic
you changed to disable the autocomplete? thanks.
To turn off the XT9 autocomplete for non-Touch keyboards:
Go to HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\ and change the key "XT9SupportMSSip" from value "1" to "0"
However, to turn it off within a Touch keyboard I think you need to go to "Options" for the keyboard --> XT9 Settings --> uncheck everything...
Can't use "Word Completion" on the Touch?? (Only XT9??)
Turned off XT9 as above but apparently the normal Windows Mobile "Word Completion" doesn't work??
Is it possible to use the normal "Word Completion" or is that functionality not included since they included XT9?
(I actually think XT9 does better prediction that "Word Completion" but XT9 prevents various 3rd-party keyboards/SIPs from working ...)
Here's some info: installed the dictionary editor from http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-word-completion-dictionary-editor-v1-3-2342-39581.html and it showed no entries in the system. Added a couple entries and saved them to the main dictionary so there are entries now, but they still aren't popping up as suggestions
What would be really great is if XT9 can be enabled and NOT interfere with 3rd-party SIPs. (For me, it prevents the "macros" function in MessagEase from working...) Otherwise, would love to be able to re-enable the Windows Mobile "Word Completion" if anyone knows how...
One of my problems (mostly) fixed
Apparently I'll just be sitting around posting repeatedly to this thread all day
Okay, here's something that can help if you are having trouble with XT9 interfering with a 3rd party SIP but you want to KEEP XT9's autocompletion rather than have no autocompletion at all...
The below fix made it possible for MessagEase macros to work along with XT9 being activated, although it looks a bit funky when MessagEase macros are being expanded (as the macro is being typed by MessagEase, XT9 is trapping every character and making new guesses, and then it remembers the macro as a new "autocomplete" phrase).
So here's how to make MessagEase and XT9 work together:
1) DON'T do the registry change described earlier (HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip) --> if that entry was already changed to 0, change it back to 1 because we want it active again...and if you make a registry change then you'll have to turn the device off/back on and reboot as usual)
2) from the keyboard selector (the up arrow on lower right of screen), select "Options"-->then select "Touch Keyboard" and tap "Options" button
3) click "XT9 Settings" button --> uncheck everything EXCEPT "Word Completion"
4) click "Ok" a bunch of times
Now MessagEase macros work although XT9 is try to trap every character MessagEase is writing...
[[One note: I *love* MessagEase but haven't used the macros in a long time as there was a bug that started happening due to the "macros" function (I called it Mad WM5 Syndrome: everything started going crazy and you had to reboot). So Exideas made a MessagEase "Lite" version without macro functionality that is very stable...They tried to fix the non-"Lite" version but the last one I tried (long ago) still caused the problem on a PPC-6700...So now I'm trying the non-"Lite" version again, hoping the macro function will work without causing "Mad WM5 Syndrome"...I will post back if the mad syndrome returns!]]
Aaron
Well unfortunately I don't have much to add, but since you're the only one posting on this thread I thought I'd echo your desires for the standard windows word completion. I like to use the keypad at times and xt9 works just fine for that, but when I'm using my hardware keyboard I'm unable to get word completion back. I miss it!
GOod job with the work-around mentioned in your last post. I think I'd prefer the normal word completion to xt9's though, so hopefully someone can figure out a way to to limit xt9's "influence" to only those times that you're using the touch keypads.
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So now I'm trying the non-"Lite" version again, hoping the macro function will work without causing "Mad WM5 Syndrome"...I will post back if the mad syndrome returns!]]
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Unfortunately, "Mad WM5 Syndrome" has become "Mad WM6 Syndrome" with the non-LITE version of MessagEase on my HTC Touch. So I'm back to using the LITE version of MessagEase without macros However, it's great using MessagEase on the Touch because you can slide right off the keyboard as there's no "ledge" between the screen and the rest of the device
The htc keyboard has 2 versions. One which has the individual keys and the one with the multitap keys. Does anyone know how to make it so that the default keyboard is ALWAYS the one with the individual keys as I am not able to select which one I would like to use.
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The htc keyboard has 2 versions. One which has the individual keys and the one with the multitap keys. Does anyone know how to make it so that the default keyboard is ALWAYS the one with the individual keys as I am not able to select which one I would like to use.
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I know what you're talking about but I am not really sure how to do that. Like when you enter input for a password in IE it pops up but for some reason only password boxes. That is definitely something to look into.
Check this post for a link to a cab file that - i believe - will disable the 20 and 12 key keyboards and activate the 40 key (password) version. the downside is that you have to give up the predictive text feature.
cortezzi said:
Check this post for a link to a cab file that - i believe - will disable the 20 and 12 key keyboards and activate the 40 key (password) version. the downside is that you have to give up the predictive text feature.
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I feel so honored to have my post cited...
when i install this, and select the keyboard nothing comes up, I still see my defualt. I soft reseted many times, even the used the pin.
any help would be great.
When i go the options, It says "the selected input method could not be loaded"
Thanks
Some used IMSelector but didn't work for my Vogue. I used SipChange and it did the trick..... maintaining my selected default keyboard.
Thanks, but what i meant is.
When i select the HTC keyboard, it's blank. nothing shows up.
is that 20 key to 40 key cab an add on? or do I uninstall the original?
thanks
Hi,
I use Touchpal V3.5 and i absolutely love it, if you haven't tired it I highly recommend it, especially good is the mixed language input and I actually type faster using touchpal+gsen in landscape mode than I did with a hardware keyboard (a worry that almost prevented me from buying this marvelous device). I do have two little niggles that would be great if i could overcome somehow:
1. Setting Touchpal to the default keyboard does not stick after a restart/reset. I have to change the keyboard each time i start up. I tried SIP Change but it doesn't seem to have an option for running at start-up....anyone know if i can get at the registry somewhere or something?
2. When I first open it, if i try to type in Chinese before using English, it freezes in a bad way, disabling EVERY window that tries to call the sip and requiring a soft reset to make the phone useable again. If I open it, type something in english, and then switch the input to chinese it runs like a charm until I restart again...what is that about?
Actually neither of these issues is a deal breaker, but it would be nice not to have to worry about it, is anyone else having these troubles?...any suggestions are greatly appreciated!
touchpal
i have touchpal also and cant keep it as default. Ive tried all the fixes there are on all the threads. Doesnt work for Touchpal. any suggestions or fixes would be greatly appreciated.
Well I figured out the answer to problem one on my own...TF3D takes a little time to load and interferes with SipChange so you need to adjust the delay so as to happen after TF3D is finished.
Just tap SIPChange, select the IM you want, and set the time to 45 seconds (shorter may work). Bingo, stays the default IM on restart
whats the difference (apart from it's tabulated) between touchpal and "compact QWERTY" mode keyboard?
you also need to Go make this change: HKCU\Software\HTC\BootLauncher\Apps and remove the folder called "Startkey"
I have the same problem with touchpal, where do i do this?
Just tap SIPChange, select the IM you want, and set the time to 45 seconds (shorter may work). Bingo, stays the default IM on restart
@FRUSTIN:
TOuchpal is third-party software by CooTek, "Compact Querty" is just a different layout for the tock HTC input method. TOuchpal is MUCH more feature rich and just kicks the [email protected] out of the default keyboard in every way, it supports tons of languages and multi-language input (go back and forth between two languages in the same sentence without changing any settings), web hotkeys, adds copy/cut/paste and D-pad to EVERY app, etc. check it out at www.cootek.com
@DIAMONDBS:
I did NOT do that and it works perfectly for me...why do you need to remove an entire folder from the registry? Can anone confirm this?
@WEETABIX1980:
Just go to start>programs>SIP Change, when the program opens you select Touchpal from the list of input methods and then change the numbers in the box below the list to 45, then click "Select"...should be the only button there...tapping "OK" is not good enough, be sure to tap "Select"
thanks, any clue what sip change in dutch is in the programs?
anyone knows this?
SIPChange is a little tool developed here at XDA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271008
Download the cab to your phone and install. This should then give you the options mentioned above.
Touchpal intermittantly hangs on me aswell. I post on here about it before. I tried allsorts to cure it (hard resets, clean installs etc). So annoying when demoing the phone to a friend and all of a sudden the keyboard hangs and wont popup.
I used to love Touchpal, now I hate it and will not install it on my phone.
When I want to use the keyboard and have the Full QUERTY keyboard selected, it's in numeric mode. When I tap ABC to get to the alfanumeric mode nothing happens. What is the solution?
Axum
Did you try tapping on the right side of the keyboard button so you can choose which keyboard you want to use?
Right hand side there is a abc button, is it not there?
yes, I tried that, both full or compact QWERTY is not working when I select them and then tap ABC. When I select the standard Windows Mobile keyboard, then I get a Qwerty keyboard that I can use.
I had this problem earlier on the same phone (but I did a hard reset then) and now the problem is back.
The problem started when I selected 123 for the first time in the Full Qwerty mode.
Axum
Anything installed before the problems started?
I've had this problem before as well. Do you have any other SIP's installed?
I have the same problem, except mine also does it with the
123
456
789
Caps0Symbol
keyboard. Yes, a horrid explanation, but I have no clue what the English word for it is, since I'm running Danish OS.
go here for a few fixes
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=617541
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=507768
same happened to me today, and it came back after doing the regedit fix
i found that the change to T9 mode in advance config or HDtweak was what was causing it to come back
have now disabled all the T9 options throughout and seems to have stayed put
How do I completely remove t9 from full qwerty? I dont even want to see the little bar that appears when I begin to type.
Thanks
CorruptedSanity said:
How do I completely remove t9 from full qwerty? I dont even want to see the little bar that appears when I begin to type.
Thanks
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Go to touch input settings and uncheck everything.
I did, I no longer get suggestions but the knob or switch is on T9 by default when I begin to type and I get the bar above that duplicates whats being typed (in an sms for example).
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I did, I no longer get suggestions but the knob or switch is on T9 by default when I begin to type and I get the bar above that duplicates whats being typed (in an sms for example).
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Hmm strange sorry man I got nothin. Maybe disable supportmssip in hklm/software/tegic/et9 ?
Ok I noticed that its on ABC not t9 when I attempt to enter text on tasks for note for example, but text entry in sms is set to t9 by default. Weird, shoulndt it be consistent between applications.