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Text completion with the Wizard keyboard

Hi, does anyone know how to select the predictive text that pops up whilst typing from the hardware keyboard on the Wizard?
At the moment I can seemingly only select it by click on the screen with the stylus, which is rather inconvienient when thumb typing.
I have scoured the posts for a mention of this but to no avail, so apologies is this is a regular!
Thanks.

I did it once by accident and forget the key stroke. But I am thinking it was either a press of the tab key or the down arrow to get into the matching word list, then an enter to select the word...
Other things I found.
Pressing the red dot twice will lock the keyboard in this mode, two preses gets it unlocked. Good for entering a string of numbers.
Same pressing twice of the shift key will shift lock the keyboard. Same deal pressing twice unlocks.

You simply press the down arrow to select the word then enter? Does that not work? I seem to remember that being how it was done but I've had PT off for a while now...

That's the one!
Much obliged.

Does anyone know how to disable the predictive test? I find it more anoying than anything else.

FreakinSyco said:
Does anyone know how to disable the predictive test? I find it more anoying than anything else.
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Start -> Settings -> Input -> Word Completion -> Untick "Suggest words..."
Simple.
Just look around all the other apps in Settings, you might learn a thing or ten

Does anyone know how to delete suggestions that come up? I have noticed that too often mispelled suggestions come up with predictive text, which I think "learns" from typos that I too often make.

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Changing_Device_Language
User suggested words dictionary
In addition to the system dictionaries for the suggested words, there is also a user-defined one, compiled by Windows Mobile dynamically. The location of this file is in: "\Windows\dyncompdict.dat". This file can safely be deleted. Editing the contents of this file is more difficul, please see the following for a useful application to generate a new one:
http://www.hollmen.dk/mikppc.htm
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Touch Keyboard autoswitch between 40&20 keys (Help)

Has anyone figured out how to prevent the Original "Touch Keyboard" on the Sprint HTC Touch from switching between the 40 key version to the 20 key version?
It's anoying whenyou need to type something it chages to the 20 key.
I've looked in the registries and I can't find anything related to that.

i know there was a cab released that hacks the touch keyboard to stay only on the 40key mode but it disables the xt9 in the process, if you can live without it
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=146118&page=2
look at post #25 your just interested in the registry hack to make it only 40key

Hi,
Thanks for the Reply. But I didn't see a CAB file there. There is a more.zip files that looks like a full keyboard installation. not really a fix to the existing keyboard.
Is there anything else?
Thanks,

suggestion: get touchpal www.cootek.com

ya its a registry entry i typed it out wrong
teste2.zip contains the reg entries to turn the 20key permanently to the 40key

bobaka said:
suggestion: get touchpal www.cootek.com
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I tried it and Love it. But is there anyways to make it the deafult so I don't have to select it everytimeI reboot?
Thanks,

SultanH said:
I tried it and Love it. But is there anyways to make it the deafult so I don't have to select it everytimeI reboot?
Thanks,
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search google for sipchange that allows you to set your default input device

Where does this keyboard come from?

I have the 16 key touch dual.
So on input options, you have the touch keypad, when I select that sometimes this comes out (please see attached)
I like it thought better than the 20 key touch keyboard.

Yeh... Where?
I second this, it works really well but there is no option to bring it up on the dual... it just randomly appears sometimes when you need to input text.

Thirded.
And whats more, why does text input seem to vary on web pages?
I've got some where it defaults to numeric input when it should be alpha numeric (ie. passwords), others where XT9 seems to be off (the subject on mails in facebook).
Its so stupidly all over the place and inconsistent! If I could just get this one to pop up all the time I'd be happy.

Doesn't that keyboard show when there's no text entry field?
And yes, i want it too, why would they disable it for normal usage?

Yeh I have found the keyboard to be all over the place when it comes to deciding if it will give you tx9, abc, 123, etc.... Anyone know a way to set one of the two alphanumerics as a default at least?

ok ive had this appear a few times now but couldnt figure out why, as you have been asking for it i have been playing around and think i know what is causing it. you may not need everything listed below but these are the settings on my device if you play around with them you should be able to narrow it down.
I'm running Toms rom, found here
i have disabled threaded sms by using the second setting here
i have enabled the favourite people button on the htc home screen by deleteing the key here
the only other app i have that may have changed a setting is the HTC home customiser.
After making these changes tick the enable xt9 setting in romsettings app, exit the app, then go back into it and untick the enable t9 setting, after closing romsettings you should have the keyboard shown in the second screen shot
as far as i can see this changes the keyboard in all applications

Thats great! Still albeit of a noob so you lost me somewhere there, is there a way to this on the stock ROM?

short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.

kerrance76 said:
short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
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Ok will try that thanks. On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?

I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.

muzikfreakah said:
On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
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I wish, this has been a problem since the phones release - theres 7 pages on it here

muzikfreakah said:
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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thats the default action anyway, with the changes detailed the keyboard is available when entering text, if you look at the second image you will see that the cursor is actually in the message box, its the black line at the end of the word hello

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I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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Eh? Maybe I overdosed on the thick pills last night, but that doesn't make any sense? If I click on a password field in IE, sometimes the main phone keypad always seems to default to numeric entry. But clicking in the field itself pops up this lovely keyboard.
It really does make no sense at all. There doesn't appear to be any standard/global keyboard settings.
And this is in v6 of WinMo, you would have thought they would have got the basics right by now, but the darned sent items has the useless option of "order by from" - when all the sent items are sent from the same person.
Its got plenty of potential, but it just seems like lots of separate teams were implementing it, doing their own thing without any centralised discussion/design.

Has anyone managed to get this to work with the standard T-Mobile [UK] ROM ?

any updates on this as well? it would be nice to just get an option for this

I got it to work, rather by chance, but thing is after that, I could switch to back to the touchpad type anymore.
I installed POCKETCM KEYBOARD. After doing that, somehow it locked this keyboard in when I choose touchpad.
Its rather a workaround, but for those who to use it premanently, you can do it

it also shows up at times when you are entering a password

Ouch ! I read to quickly and did'nt see the word "permanently" !
It does the same for me after installing pocketpc keyboard and even after uninstalling it !!!
Did you find a way to get the classic keyboard back ? This one is nice but there are some important keys missing as "." and a key to hide the keyboard !
Thanks
EDIT : The installation of Resco Keyboard got all the original settings back + Resco Keyboard of course.
So if you need to use the famous "hidden HTC keyboard", simply install Resco Keyboard and then Pocketpc keyboard.
You will then have your classic "touch" keyboards replaced by the "hidden keyboard" (+Resco Keyboard installed of course).
But to my mind, Resco keyboard alone is better...

Full Qwerty Keyboard turns into number keypad

Whenever a sms is open, the touch screen keyboard that is opened is supposed to be full qwerty. However, mine has turned in a number keypad. There is no way i can change to full qwerty again. I can change into transcriber, block recognizer, letter recongnizer but cannot revert back into qwerty. How can this be?
Even a soft-reset cannot solve this. Can anyone help? Thanks

If I tap the "Up" arrow next to the SIP "Show/Hide" icon I get a popup menu that offers ...
Touch Input Settings
English >
Phone Keypad (this will be what you have selected)
Full QWERTY (this is what you want)
Keyboard
Other Input Methods >
Ta
Dave

Did you turn on the T9 option with HD Tweak? This caused the same problem on the Touch HD, might be the same on the TP2.....just an idea....

DaveShaw said:
If I tap the "Up" arrow next to the SIP "Show/Hide" icon I get a popup menu that offers ...
Touch Input Settings
English >
Phone Keypad (this will be what you have selected)
Full QWERTY (this is what you want)
Keyboard
Other Input Methods >
Ta
Dave
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Er Dave.... thanks for the suggestion. I already know how to change different input options from arrow up key. Sorry I didnt make myself clear earlier.
The problem is that even when I choose qwerty.... the number keypad still appears. It has happened before and the only way I can go back to qwerty is to go back to previous backup setting.
I'm just wondering if anyone else has faced any problem like this.

michi123 said:
Did you turn on the T9 option with HD Tweak? This caused the same problem on the Touch HD, might be the same on the TP2.....just an idea....
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Hi michi, I never use HD tweak and T9 option before. Only use qwerty and hardware keyboard only. This number keypad just appeared out of nowhere.

st8800 said:
Er Dave.... thanks for the suggestion. I already know how to change different input options from arrow up key. Sorry I didnt make myself clear earlier.
The problem is that even when I choose qwerty.... the number keypad still appears. It has happened before and the only way I can go back to qwerty is to go back to previous backup setting.
I'm just wondering if anyone else has faced any problem like this.
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Oh well, worth a shot...
Try the other guys suggestions
Dave

See... funny thing is that 5hrs ago, I backed up the device. During this time, I did not install any software and hardly used the phone except for some sms and inputing new contact info. Suddenly, the qwerty keypad input doesn't appear any more.
I just restored my backup and the qwerty keypad is up again. Hope someone knows what is going on, if not, I have to backup everyday!!!

It happened to me too. I changed the registry so I could map keyboard keys to emulators, changing the eT9 IME to the windows mobile default. Perhaps you have done this? If so, change the values back and it fixes the problem after a soft reset.
I think the registry location was HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts
Layout Text should be "eT9 IME",
Ime File should be "\windows\eT9ime.dll"

I have same problem
I give up on the keyboard for now. Not sure what broke it and I didn't backup everyday. Registry looks a bit different for me.

I did this previously at it work very well.
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Originally Posted by beemerTPPC
IMPORTANT: previously be sure that HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip has a value of 0.
Simply change these two registry keys under:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : XT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.
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Today it happened again.... lucky I backup last night. 1 hour ago everything was still working. Again.... no new software or settings changed. What could be the problem?
I checked the settings are still the same.... now even suggested words don't appear.
Sigh... until a solution can be found... I just have to keep doing backup / restore....

mikeinashed said:
It happened to me too. I changed the registry so I could map keyboard keys to emulators, changing the eT9 IME to the windows mobile default. Perhaps you have done this? If so, change the values back and it fixes the problem after a soft reset.
I think the registry location was HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts
Layout Text should be "eT9 IME",
Ime File should be "\windows\eT9ime.dll"
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I cant choose eT9ime.dll because I really like the suggested words to appear.

This works form every time
Just change
HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime.change CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0

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Just change
HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime.change CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0
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Hmm... strange my CurrentET9Style was set at 8. What does this change do?

thanks. I had the same problem on my HTC Fuze.
This helped: HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime.change CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0
but I have a different problem. (had this before the reg edit)
my problem is: If I write hello it'll automaically become hellHello... and if I write it it'll become iIt.. I switched off capitalization but tht didn;t help!!

Worked!!
This reg change did it for me cheers!!!!

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Just change
HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime.change CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0
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I just started having this same problem today. I tried cjatcti remedy, and it worked so far . QWERTY keyboard is back to normal. If the phone keyboard comes back, I'll let you all know.

Excellent work. Worked very well so now I have the word selection and the keyboard I like. THANKS

Wish
I would have seen this thread before I hard reset.

Changing the CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0 works ... but once I go into, say edit a contact, then the number pad will re-appear again. The registry key is modified back to 1 again ... any quick trick to stop this? really don't want to change the key again and again...

I use my Kaiser with the ROM PDA Corner Ultimate X-v9 a six months ago without any problem. Today i saw the first page of the forum the application SMSer from "oldsap". I found interesting and tried to install. Soon after the installation I was testing it and realized that I had the same problem as everyone here. Changing CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0 solved my problem. I think in my case the problem appeared after the installation of SMSer, so i uninstaled and my QWERTY is working normal now.

Turn off XT9 permanently and stop it from interfering with Swype?

I've installed Swype and really like it. I'm using SIPchange to enable it as a default. Unfortunately, XT9 will interfere with the words selected by Swype even after you've picked the right word. The only way to disable this is to manually change to Touch Input keyboard and disable XT9 on the keyboard before changing back to Swype.
I've already disabled both Spell Correction and Word Completion in Touch Input under Settings> Personal> Input> Touch Input> Options, but XT9 still turns on the next time I restart the phone.

Hi, I'm using swype too and haven't noticed any interference from XT9, but I might not have known what I'm looking for.
What are your symptoms?

I have had that happen to me before on certain Roms... cant tell you which one... usually, it works fine (I am using Topix Rom now)
When it did happen, I turned off XT9 under the settings but I ALSO opened the default keyboard and turned it off there but pressing the key.... moved back to swype after that and the xt9 word options were gone... just the usual swype dictionary/options at times.... Soft reset didn't change anything... it was all ok still
Hope this helps

Unfortunately for me, once I shutdown/soft reset the phone, XT9 is automatically activated on the Touch Input keyboard again even though everything has already been turned off in the Settings>Personal>Input. Also, it seems that the Touch Input keyboard automatically defaults to one of the Chinese input methods instead of English. Maybe that's where the problem lies. Where can I default the Touch Input keyboard to English?
BTW, I have my Locale set as Australia, so that isn't the problem.
The symptoms are: Once you've "Swyped" the word and pick the one you want, XT9 then shows up with it's word choices and either shows the same word or if I have it initial caps, make it all small letters
I also noticed that in Settings>Personal>Input, when I select Swype then click the "OK" button, it doesn't save the selection, and goes back to "Touch Input" when I open the "Input" dialogue again. I guess this probably means that some of my registry entries are toast...

That is indeed weird... do you have something like SIP change installed? I use that to start Swype by default during startup after a restart.. Don't know if that might help...

Yes, I do have SIPchange installed, but it's already set to Swype as the default.

I had the same problem and this is my partial solution.
Go to HKLM/Softwares/Tegic/eT9/IsSupportMSSIPContact
Change the Dword from 1 to 0.
this will get rid of XT9 for Swype but only if it is NOT the default. Therefore, there is the nagging inconvenience of having to change it to Swype every time your soft reset. But it is better than that nothing.

Thanks for the partial solution. It's at least better than what I'm doing now after every reboot, which is to:
1. change Swype to Touch Input
2. change Touch Input to EN so that the keyboard shows up
3. click on the XT9/ABC button
4. change Touch Input back to Swype..
One thing to note, I just went to the registry and there isn't the value you listed. However, there is the following string value:
HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\LRU_MS_InputMethod and the value is Swype.
I'm wondering if this is what is causing XT9 to activate when Swype is active.. Do you have this value in your registry? what value is it?
Quick edit to note that I added a DWORD IsSupportMSSIPContact with value "0" and soft reset... Sorry to say that it didn't disable XT9 even if Touch Input was defaulted. Guess my problem is slightly different than yours.

Yes, all those values are the same. Need ot check if you also disable xt9 using some .cab. If not then you will need to do the following:
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409\Ime File
Change it to read as compime.dll
and
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409\Layout Text
Change to COMP IME
This will disable eT9. Please remember the original values should you want to revert back.
I think that should work.
have fun.

weenween, the two registry values you gave are already what is on my phone..
But XT9 still enables itself when I restart the phone. I've now resigned myself to disabling XT9 on the Touch Input keyboard manually each time I restart the phone.
In any case, thanks for your help.

I have exactly the same problem adn symptoms as GregWee. Must be becasue we both have Hong Kong HD2s where the default english keyboard is PinYin?

I have a similar issue. I have a TMOUS HD2 with QQ 2010 mobile loaded on it for chinese text entry. The QQ keypad has become the default everytime I reboot - entirely unwanted. Somehow it interferes with the contact dropdown list in messaging and email. It has something to do with the T9 staying on when entering a contact name. I installed sipchange but it does not overide the QQ default after a soft reset.
After changing between keyboards a few time it begins to work properly in email and then finally in messages. Right now, since the last soft reboot and playing around, when I am in either email or messages the stock keyboard will automatically switch from T9 to abc when I move the cursor to enter a contact name. The contacts appear as I type as they should. Swype works fine too. I have no idea what I did to get it to work but I have had the same experience several times today. Hopefully I will figure it out.
I would like to know a way to override the QQ as the default keyboard. I think this might fix the problem.
Any suggestions?