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My is Wizard Dead. Please help

I got a used wizard today,it is a few weeks old I also got a cradle with it.
I pluged in the cradle to the USB port and the charger to power, after playing with it for 1-2 hours I placed the wizard on the cradle to charge and after a few mins i noticed that it was over heating. I removed it from the cradle right away and noticed that the battery was droping 1% every minute or so. After it was down to 27% i removed the charger and left only the usb connection and placed the wizard on the cradle again. it was charging fine, when it was up to 90% removed it from the cradle and again was droping fast.
When it was down to around 25-30% of the battery I did a soft reset and since then I can never get it to start again also the red charging light does not show.
What the heck is wrong with it? I also get a light burning smell from the bottom of the wizard where the connector is located.
Any help?
I need your lights guys.

Don't like the sound of the light burning smell, that sounds like an electrical fault. It looks like your battery has died and the wizard battery setup is well known to do this. You need to plug it into the official mains charger (not the usb one) as this has an output of 1A, enough to kick start the wizard battery into life and start the charging. You need to wait a short while though before the light comes on. If this fails try to get a new battery and try that. Any more light burning smells and it needs to go back to the supplier.

I would suggest that you send it back to replace/repair. The rapid dropping of the battery power suggest that it is using power somewhere (illegally). I've heard cases of battery caught on fire, etc. and I won't suggest you to use it anymore until you sort out the 'burning' smell.

First of all thanks for your replys.
I pluged the charger on it and the red charging light came on after a while.
charged for over 6 hours and its still red? I think after been charged should change to green? right?
anyways after all that still doesnt want to turn on. I got it to start a couple of times but only to the point that shows the splash screen with the rom numbers and then it turns back off.
Should I give it a smash across the room on the wall? done that with some other things and worked just kiding.

Forgot to add that up to the point when i did the soft reset the device was working fine except the charge drop. Soft reset was done while it was working ( turned on)..... if thats any help.

i thinking u need flash phone with jafwm
and here u will find 3 flashs
www.gsm-support.info

fonec said:
i thinking u need flash phone with jafwm
and here u will find 3 flashs
www.gsm-support.info
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That ain't gonna do jack sh1t to it. If it can't start to get into bootloader, it can't flash....and it's not a flash issue.
Usually the red light means power but not charging - happens to my qtek 9100 when I let it get too flat and I have to remove and insert the battery while the mains adaptor is attached - others have to 'jump start' the battery by directly connecting to a PSU - I wouldn't do this with yours.
From what you have said it sounds like a short somewhere. Any signs of water damage? Warranty? What Wizard do you have and what country are you in?
Richard

I got the wiza 200 O2 xda mini S from a guy in UK from ebay. The idiot sold me a cradle for it with an adaptor that says 12V on it (Like an idiot that I am i just noticed that) but then again how am I supposed to think that he gave me an adaptor that its not made for it when it says on the back of it "for Imate - Kjam". Do you guys think thats what burned the **** out of the unit ?
dont forget that some times turns on shows the ROMS numbers and turns off.

No water damage... I think its on warranty... I live in Greece.

Might not be the cradle - it could be it steps down internally to 5v. Use a meter and check what it outputs to the phone. Warranty with XDA's are 2 years to the *original* purchaser. As they are only supplied with an airtime agreement then that isn't you.
Richard

have you tried changing batteries to a new one? Seriously, thats the easiest thing you could do right now and you could actually get results.

Ok this is what I did.
Removed the baterry from the device,
got a 12V 1 Amp power supply that I had lying around and give it a few shots connecting it to the battery giving it an electro shock.
(If you're going to try this be very carefull.<<<< DONT LEAVE the power supply connected to the battery>>>> just give it a few shots 1 second on and off.
That was it.
It started working, device turned on and now its charging (I think) yellow light is on.
I'm going to leave it on for a few hours and see what happens.
Wish me good luck. I'll let you know soon.

ok... this is what happend.
Battery is drained and its not charging due to a blown fust on the main board.
I open the phone and placed and solder a little wire over the fuse.
Still does not charge. ^%$#%$#$^%$*
Before I replaced the fuse or should i say short it the yellow light would come on for a few min and then red again. Now when I charge the battery with another external power supply the pda comes on for a few mins and then dies again. ( no charging light whatsoever).
Does anyone know where to get a mainboard for it and about how much it costs?
Asking for help again.

SmartMan said:
ok... this is what happend.
Battery is drained and its not charging due to a blown fust on the main board.
I open the phone and placed and solder a little wire over the fuse.
Still does not charge. ^%$#%$#$^%$*
Before I replaced the fuse or should i say short it the yellow light would come on for a few min and then red again. Now when I charge the battery with another external power supply the pda comes on for a few mins and then dies again. ( no charging light whatsoever).
Does anyone know where to get a mainboard for it and about how much it costs?
Asking for help again.
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Hey man, sorry to hear about that.
The best you can do is to claim your money from ebay.
You probably killed it when you pluged in the 12V PSU. That's 230% of the normal Volts! Otherwise sell it for parts.

I'm in the process of claiming the money back from the IDIOT that sold it to me.
Lets see if that part of Ebay works as good.

SmartMan said:
I'm in the process of claiming the money back from the IDIOT that sold it to me.
Lets see if that part of Ebay works as good.
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Doubt it. Did you ask the seller for help before opening the phone and voiding the original warranty on the device?
SmartMan said:
ok... this is what happend.
I open the phone and placed and solder a little wire over the fuse.
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Not a good idea IMO as now the blame is on you as previously he may have been able to get warranty service from the original vendor.
Richard

I did ask.
He is not the original buyer.
what was I suposed to do.... track back 2-3 buyers to find the original... send it to him so he can have it repaired? Anyway it was out of warranty because of the burned fuse that says that some other charger was used with it.

I had a similar thing happen but fortunately not as bad as yours. Twice now my battery has mysteriously drained completely. The last time when I tried to turn the unit on, it flashed the boot screen for a couple of seconds then poof, no more juice. When I plugged it into the USB port, nothing, no lights, no charge, no recognition from Activesync, I thought the unit was fried. I use Tmobile and got to admit they did send me a replacement fairly quickly. Before I packed up my unit I thought maybe I should plug it in using the wall charger and presto, it came on and is working fine. I have no idea what causes this but do know that if the battery is completely discharged the USB port can not over come this to put a charge on.

Same thing happened to me, kind of strange though. The charge was perhaps 70% to the best of my knowledge. I flashed it with Mr. Clean ROM and booted it up.. it came in fine into WM5, then it started the installation of the 3 progs or whatever comes with Mr. Clean.. after the second finished the unit just died *poff*. Screen blank, no responce to power buttons or any other buttons for that matter.
I've tried taking out the battery for different intervals of time, no luck. I've tried using the AC charger, no luck. No lights, sounds, telepathy or matrix ****.. it just lies there like a dummy phone.. hmm what to do. Bought it from a guy in UK (im in sweden) on eBay, don't think I will have much luck there.. even though it's brand new...
Any thouhgts?

I have had this problem - I bought a replacement battery and all is now fine. Another thread in this group states that the battery cannot charge without the OS up - so if the battery is completely discharged then it is impossible to charge through the phone. The only solution seems to be somehow to charge the battery directly - as appears to have been done earlier in this thread.
Chris
p.s. if anyone knows of another way to do it I'd be interested to hear as I'd like to revive my old battery and keep it as a spare

Dead magician...? Red light!

Hi all,
Need som urgent help. The backcover of my device is not fitting well any longer. Guess I´ve bumped it to many times...
As a result (Iguess) I cant turn on or even charge my magician!
The only thing that is happening when I try to charge is that a red light is turned on. What does this mean?
Any solution of how to get it work again?
Is it possible to buy a new back-cover? Live in Sweden.
Thankful for some ideas!
Regards Emil

Most probably the notch on the battery cover that hits the microswitch lever has broken. You will find the microswitch on the lower-right corner of the device when facing down. Put something soft but strong enough (ie. foam) to keep the microswitch in the ON postion then mount the battery cover and temporarily fix it with tape. Be sure to keep your device plugged in via USB or charger in order not to totally discharge the backup battery. If the backup battery gets depleated, then it's like doing a hard reset.
You can buy parts from ebay but I've always bought from Brando and is very reliable dealer (shop.brando.com.hk). Delivery is quite fast too.

Hi Zerimar and thanks for your answer!
Unfortunately that didn´t do the trick. Still the same red light when trying to charge. And I can´t turn it on! I am pretty sure that the battery is flat out by now but even so I would think it would load and then after a while, I would be able to turn it on.
Am really frustrated abt this!
Any more ideas maybe?!?
Regards Emil

u'd better send it to service...

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u'd better send it to service...
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Well, that´s what I´m trying to get around... Thats why I´m hanging around here

If have have my device charged via USB or charger, the LED becomes as soon as I remove the battery cover. If I hit the microswitch lever then the LED turns green and start to boot up. If main battery is removed the LED stays red even though hitting the microswitch's lever.
It looks like it's not charging your main battery or your battery is already defective. If your device is over a year old and you're still using the same battery, then its time to change it. Bulges in a battery is a sign that it needs replacement.
Before sending your device for repair, why not look for someone you know who also has a Magician or equivalent device and quickly borrow his/her battery?

I had red LED when plugging into a main charger - and then the phone reset.

Red LED + loop booting-poweroff = dead battery
If the LED is RED when you charge your device for hours
If the device tries to boot sometimes, but powers off by itself some minutes after (it means, at least, that your device CAN boot! )
Your battery may be dead, I bought a new one for 10Euros on ebay...
Those batteries are perfectly compatible with HTC Prophet or HTC Beetles (Ipaq 6515) and maybe other devices... easy to find!

Hermes bricked? Toasted? Need assistance urgently!

Before anyone jumps on me, I've been going through the Wiki and forums extensively, and found just one similar problem. Which wasn't solved...
My HTC TyTN/Hermes 200 won't boot up anymore. It is totally dead. I even can't get it into bootloader mode. Screen stays blank and the LED is off.
Put the (3 months old) battery in another Hermes to test it, and it's at 100% charge.
My Hermes shows a steady red LED when it's plugged into power without the battery in, and no LED at all when the battery is installed. The red LED turns off when the battery is installed while there's power going into the unit.
I've left the battery out for at least an hour, plugged it back in, same results. Like the other guy I tried the "pull power, pull battery, plug in power, plug in battery, reset" trick http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...6469&p=1077622 - to no avail.
Does anyone have any last resort ideas on how to get it to at least come back up to a boot loader screen ?

check the battery contact points on the phone. the hermes shows a red led when its plugged in but without a battery

... have you ever dismantled your hermes? your screen ribbon cable may have dead tracks or not be connected properly
just a test on the opposite side of the battery connectors with battery removed press firmly without putting pressure on the LCD, this worked for me when i had a white screen on power up.
if this fixes the problem you may need to actually dismantle the back and put some flame retardant electrical tape on the back over the existing tape to add an extra layer of pressure and retension

XtreMe_G said:
check the battery contact points on the phone. the hermes shows a red led when its plugged in but without a battery
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Yes, I have cleaned the contact too, nothing. And the battery is OK for sure, my colleague's TyTN runs on it without any problem.

Mattnokis said:
... have you ever dismantled your hermes? your screen ribbon cable may have dead tracks or not be connected
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In fact I have, I have totally dismantled and reassembled my TyTN yesterday afternoon, nothing.

the only other problem may be that when being dismantled you may have damaged some sensitive components, Electro Static Discharge will fry sensitive CMOS components, they do not like it at all, whenever dismantling you should wear an earth strap, any time i dismantled mine it was on a workbench with a static mat and i was earthed through the mat.
but this is one possibility, the only other idea is to swap main board and displays with another that works, finding someone willing to allow you to do this with a working hemes is the tough part.
thats as much all i can think of for now

R.I.P. my trustful Hermes 200
Thanks all for your assistance. I have come to the conclusion that my sweetheart is no longer among us. May she rest in peace.
I have obtained a (2d hand) replacement yesterday. May this one last longer.
I'll keep the old TyTN for replacement parts.
Oh well...

Battery Won't Charge

hey, i got the leo just over two weeks ago, and swapped my orange sim for my o2 sim (my phone is unlocked) yesterday night. This morning the phone did not charge at all and i still cannot get it to charge, i have tried via the wall plug and plugging into my PC. At the top of the phone there is a green LED flash and then an orange one.
Any ideas as to why it wont charge, im still under guarentee so if its any problems with the battery etc. i am sure i can get it replaced, Thanks in advance.

i've tried taking out the SIM then turned it on and off, that didn't work. I then tried the same but with the SanDisk card. Still no hope.

Hi, sorry to here about your troubles but it is nothing I haven't seen before. Hope this helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610330

Try to release all the energy of the battery, then plug the usb cable to computer, us your PC to charge it.If it dosen't work, congrats then, you are in the same situation as me,
-order a new battery replacement see if it's sloved, if not, send it to HTC for repair.

btw, just curious, are you in Canada as well...?

hi i have the same problem solution is simple you just bend middle pin that connect battery bend it down a little and it should works

Thanks mmpl, I am gonna try that, I wish that may solve my battery drain problem as well.

nah im not Canadian, from the UK. The place i bought it from said i could send it to them and they can check it, if they can't fix it they'll send a new one to me

WOW! amazingly, i had no hope in it. But i did play around with the middle pin just a slight tap backwards and then *forced* the usb into my phone and computer, it switched on switched off i unplugged my phone is did a white screen flash, but it is now holding the solid orange LED of life! i can't understand what on earth was wrong, and it could still not charge but the LED seems to be correct!

Unfortunately i am now experiencing this with a replacement battery from China. It flashes green and orange when plugged in and won't charge. Original battery works normal. Well... back to seller.

Problem Fixed!
Thanks mmpl. The middle prong on the HD2 that connects the battery was pointing slightly up from horizontal (and it looks different than the two prongs and seems a little limp/loose); I pushed it down a little so it's just slightly down from horizontal; put the battery in and that fixed it! Thank you for posting the solution!!!
My symptoms were that the battery indicator icon in the title bar would switch to full bars when plugged in (did not show the plug icon in the title bar as it should have), but when I click on the battery indicator icon the sub screen (showing the battery) would show the actual state of the battery, e.g., 30% with one bar.
I've been also having freeze-up problems when dialing out, thereby requiring a re-boot (take the battery out or push the reset pin) once or twice every day (I'm on the phone a lot however), and maybe the daily removal/re-install of the battery weakened the prong.

Replacement battery from China...
ahdai said:
Unfortunately i am now experiencing this with a replacement battery from China. It flashes green and orange when plugged in and won't charge. Original battery works normal. Well... back to seller.
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Hi, I also have purchased a cheap replacement battery from China as a backup for my Samsung i500. I cannot charge this battery in the phone! I get a pop window when I connect my charging cable that states; "battery is not connected"! The stock original Samsung OEM battery charges in the phone just fine.
I wonder what the problem is?

mmpl said:
hi i have the same problem solution is simple you just bend middle pin that connect battery bend it down a little and it should works
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Thanks mmpl, I had not even considered the pin until I read your post.
I know this is the wrong thread for xperia ray, but I just wanted to say that this is something that could happen to absolutely every phone. The middle pin on my ray was stuck in, so far in that it would not connect properly to the battery. By getting a sewing needle in and tinkering it back out it now connects and charges properly.
Also, I hear that if you have flashed your phone you may need to re-calibrate it. If your phone is rooted, you can do this with the aptly named app called BatteryCalibration. Worth considering I think.

[SOLVED] Issues after display replacement [LG G2 d802] Red led blinks 8 times + more

I don't know if this is the right section, anyway because it isn't specifically hardware related I posted here... for admins feel free to move in the appropriate thread.
My G2 dropped on the floor and as result I got a complete broken display plus not working touch.
The device, touch apart, worked without issues so as 1st step I made a full backup of sd-like content (music, pictures, etc...) to my laptop.
note: even if touch didn't work I was able to access the device trough adb and a very useful utility (http://marian.schedenig.name/2014/07/03/remote-control-your-android-phone-through-adb/)
Next I ordered a replacement for the display, looked for instructions and changed by myself... and the phone didn't boot or even charge... nothing, the only signal of life was when attached to the wall charger the led blinking in red eight (8) times consecutively then no blink for a second and again blink for 8 times and so on in an infinite loop.
Of course I started to look for solution and tried every kind of combination but none worked.
I started to think that I missed up something during the display replacement or the battery fault or even I fried in some way the motherboard, anyway for what I read it supposed that could be that the battery gone under certain voltage or minimal charge so the motherboard circuit didn't recognize as "good or safe battery", it is simply bypassed by charge circuit.
note: I waited for the new display about 10 days and the device (fully charged) slept (turned off) in a drawer so I don't think it was totally discharged
I disassembled and reassembled again the device but nothing happened so while looking for a solution I saw a video on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZwknmWCmOE) solving a issue similar to mine so as instructions I took an old charger (800ma), cut the charger connector and exposed the 2 internal wires (one red and the other gray/black).
Then I opened the device, disconnected the battery and attached directly into the battery connector the two charger wires (in this way mobile motherboard is bypassed).
I used a small piece of tape to stop and make touch laterally the 2 wires to the connector, something like: dark wire -> [ battery connector] <- red wire
Keep in mind that the connector is something very small like (0) where left parenthesis is for dark wire and right parenthesis for the red one.
note: you can't wrong with wires, because the positive (on the battery connector) has a small white triangle.
Of course I found a way to don't move/mess wires before connecting the wall charger... I put another piece of tape at 20cm on the table to keep the cable charger fixed near the phone, then I attached the wall charger...
remember: attach the charger to the wall ONLY when you have finished to place/fix the contacts!
Waited just 1 minute because exposed charger wires was very close and didn't want to fry something... but it was enough!!
Reconnected the battery and voilà the phone turned on!
The phone turned on with almost 80% of charge, all seemed to work... except that I found 2 issues... I suppose because the case didn't match perfectly anymore (I opened the device 4 times and disassembled-reassembled twice)
1st speaker didn't work, so I reopened the device and checked the speaker connector, I discovered that the speaker didn't touch very well so I put a small stripe of tape under the connector (the small vertical green stripe in the lower side of the phone) to lift it and making touch stronger with the speaker module (the black part the come out), here on Youtube for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE2FPmFUrQQ
2nd GPS didn't work very well (discovered after a couple of days) so I reopened the device and applied this solution that worked perfectly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfS4LpfcLfg
This is my story in the hope to help someone, if you have apparently a total dead phone and the only signal of life is a 8 times blinking red light... now you know what to do!
Regards,
Davide

Thank u for share your story

Congrats on fixing your problem!
suiller said:
The phone turned on with almost 80% of charge, all seemed to work... except that I found 2 issues... I suppose because the case didn't match perfectly anymore (I opened the device 4 times and disassembled-reassembled twice)
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You mentioned the alignment of the phone wasn't the same as before....
Did your battery swell or change shape at all during this process?
If so could be a sign its on its way out and needs replacement.
A dying G2 lithium ion battery changes physical shape and completely alters the internal alignment of your components.
May be worth an extra 10.00 to replace your battery at this point with a new one

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Congrats on fixing your problem!
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thank you, I was a bit frustrated because I thought to have broken the motherboard, even if it wasn't very easy I didn't surrend and I won!
tiguy99 said:
You mentioned the alignment of the phone wasn't the same as before....
Did your battery swell or change shape at all during this process?
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I understand what you mean but no I don't think so... it seemed the same size
anyway battery has less than 1 year of life and never showed symptoms or bad behavior, right now is running as before... I can pass easily 24h without recharge

suiller said:
thank you, I was a bit frustrated because I thought to have broken the motherboard, even if it wasn't very easy I didn't surrend and I won!
I understand what you mean but no I don't think so... it seemed the same size
anyway battery has less than 1 year of life and never showed symptoms or bad behavior, right now is running as before... I can pass easily 24h without recharge
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Sounds good!
Have you found the source of your alignment being off?

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Have you found the source of your alignment being off?
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I checked and found nothing in particular... just a bit near the sim "area", but it seems just a sort of plastic adaptation... as mentioned before I opened, disassembled, reassembled and then closed it 4-5 times (in just few days)