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Roaming At All Times

I recently unlocked my G1 to work with the ICE Network here in Costa Rica.
I was actually stuck for like 3 hours thinking about flashing and trying differen methods for the activation because for some reason it wouldn't catch the 2G Data Services (After I Followed alot of APN Settings etc)
When I was about to give up , I saw what seemed like a new icon (which ended up being that it was receiving data)
But I also noticed the R in the signal strenght icon, which I managed to figure out was Roaming.
This has not gone off since I got the phone, I got Donut 1.6 , I got the phone yesterday, It works perfectly, It receives calls, Dials, Msgs fine, everything like my old S.E phone, the internet is even a tad faster, but I'm kinda worried about the Roaming sign being there.
I'm not really worried for any International SMS like it was reported, because the crappy service here doesn't even have that, so It won't happen, and I don't even think Roaming exists here.
Any help to that?

red.Wood said:
I recently unlocked my G1 to work with the ICE Network here in Costa Rica.
I was actually stuck for like 3 hours thinking about flashing and trying differen methods for the activation because for some reason it wouldn't catch the 2G Data Services (After I Followed alot of APN Settings etc)
When I was about to give up , I saw what seemed like a new icon (which ended up being that it was receiving data)
But I also noticed the R in the signal strenght icon, which I managed to figure out was Roaming.
This has not gone off since I got the phone, I got Donut 1.6 , I got the phone yesterday, It works perfectly, It receives calls, Dials, Msgs fine, everything like my old S.E phone, the internet is even a tad faster, but I'm kinda worried about the Roaming sign being there.
I'm not really worried for any International SMS like it was reported, because the crappy service here doesn't even have that, so It won't happen, and I don't even think Roaming exists here.
Any help to that?
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You might want to post your APN settings so others can see if you need to change something.

name:ICE Celular
apn: icecelular
proxy:172.27.10.4
port:8080
username:blank
pass:blank
server:172.27.10.4
mcc:712
mnc:03
Out of noobing around, I tried to play with the APN settings, but I went back to the old ones, now my Internet doesn't work..

http://modmyi.com/wiki/index.php/Carrier_APN_Settings#ICE_.28Costa_Rica.29
Thats the only thing I saw. Saw a couple other places that had the same info. If that don't work then maybe someone else can help you thru.

This isn't an APN problem, it is a SIM problem.
Your provider has one set of numbers on your card, and another set of numbers that actually identify the network, and they don't match. Technically, from the phone's point of view, you *are* roaming, even if it is the same provider. From the provider's point of view, you *aren't* roaming.
Up until cupcake, we had that same problem here in Canada when using the "Fido" network (which is owned and operated by "Rogers"). The network identified itself as "Rogers", the SIM cards identify themselves as "Fido", the phone think's its roaming.
So; you don't need to worry about roaming charges when you are actually connected to the correct network.
BUT; You don't have an easy to read display to tell you when you are *really* roaming, nor can you make configurations that are based on whether you are or are not roaming.
Edit: You might be inclined to report it as a bug against AOSP. Even though it technically isn't a bug, the workaround for it needs to be input and that needs to originate as a bug report. http://source.android.com/report-bugs

lbcoder said:
This isn't an APN problem, it is a SIM problem.
Your provider has one set of numbers on your card, and another set of numbers that actually identify the network, and they don't match. Technically, from the phone's point of view, you *are* roaming, even if it is the same provider. From the provider's point of view, you *aren't* roaming.
Up until cupcake, we had that same problem here in Canada when using the "Fido" network (which is owned and operated by "Rogers"). The network identified itself as "Rogers", the SIM cards identify themselves as "Fido", the phone think's its roaming.
So; you don't need to worry about roaming charges when you are actually connected to the correct network.
BUT; You don't have an easy to read display to tell you when you are *really* roaming, nor can you make configurations that are based on whether you are or are not roaming.
Edit: You might be inclined to report it as a bug against AOSP. Even though it technically isn't a bug, the workaround for it needs to be input and that needs to originate as a bug report. http://source.android.com/report-bugs
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Thank You very much.
I actually wasn't really worrying a whole lot, because Roaming doesn't exist here in Costa Rica. ( We are expected to barely get 3G this year, and there is a wait list for that for about 200,000 people ).. If your signal goes out, thats it, you got no signal .
thanks for the quick reply, another thing I wanted to ask. I've had the phone since like Sunday, and When I got it it was Version 1.01, So I got 1.5 Cup Cake, and eventually 1.6 Donut without even trying the phone at any point, I'm getting alot of force close msgs, for something regarding android action or something like that, I don't recall the exact msg, but I keep getting it , when going to the home from a application (any) or doing something rly fast, it blacks out, resets the desktop and shows up again, I read somewhere you had to do a factory reset (which bugs me because for some reason mY internet wasn't working until like 5 hours after I unlocked the phone).. Thanks

red.Wood said:
Thank You very much.
I actually wasn't really worrying a whole lot, because Roaming doesn't exist here in Costa Rica. ( We are expected to barely get 3G this year, and there is a wait list for that for about 200,000 people ).. If your signal goes out, thats it, you got no signal .
thanks for the quick reply, another thing I wanted to ask. I've had the phone since like Sunday, and When I got it it was Version 1.01, So I got 1.5 Cup Cake, and eventually 1.6 Donut without even trying the phone at any point, I'm getting alot of force close msgs, for something regarding android action or something like that, I don't recall the exact msg, but I keep getting it , when going to the home from a application (any) or doing something rly fast, it blacks out, resets the desktop and shows up again, I read somewhere you had to do a factory reset (which bugs me because for some reason mY internet wasn't working until like 5 hours after I unlocked the phone).. Thanks
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Yeah, a factory reset might help. Especially when you've done that many updates over a short period of time.
Write down your APN settings on a piece of paper and do the factory reset. It will STILL have 1.6, it will just clear the user data, which after just one day, won't be much anyways. Better to get it cleaned up now rather than wait until you have a big pile of configurations you don't want to lose.

Thanks, Did that, now my G1 Is much faster and won't crash.. Awesome

TMob US - 3g service, but no internet

Ok, this is goofy.
Wifi works great
EVDO connects to internet and works great
3g shows 3 bars, but will not connect to internet
This is true even after a hard reset. Must be a settings issue? I did a hard reset, let it set up, and still same problem.

I got the same problem. Purchased the phone yesterday morning. I never had the data plan before. I called T-Mobile twice and they told me that it can take up to 48 hours for the data to kick in. If it doesn't work by tomorrow morning, I'll give them a call again.

i got the same thing too guys. it is fine now and i got a text message from tmo so it it cuts out again i will chime back in.
buy yeah, yesterday i lost connection twice for long periods of time, like a couple of hours.

Thanks for the info! Seems pretty weird that it works when I'm in an E area, but not on 3g. Maybe different towers or something. Friggin awesome phone though!

LOL, WTF
i just tried to go on yahoo on my hd2 just now after posting and guess what.... it's out again!

OK so I pulled the battery and popped it back in and my internet is back.
i hope this isn't a hardware issue!

Yeah, this is interesting. Popped my TMo sim into my Xperia, could only get E level of service for some reason but could connect to the internet. Put the sim back in my HD2, took it to the far corner of the basement where it drops to E service and it connects to the internet. Back in 3g zone and it won't connect at all. At least it seems to have a stronger antenna than the Xperia. I'll have to give them a call and see whats going on.

there was an issue with the settings...
you can try a couple of things first...
if you are familiar with windows (which sounds like you are), you need to go change the access point name (apn) to one of 2 options...
wap.voicestream.com
epc.tmobile.com

I called into customer service about same issue. I was told to power down, remove battery and start it again and check. It worked afterward.
Maybe it was due to them activating my new data plan, from Android data to Smart phone data. I don't know, just guessing.

I thought maybe I was having this same problem yesterday..
thought eh its all in my head.
Maybe it was due to them activating my new data plan, from Android data to Smart phone data. I don't know, just guessing/QUOTE]
What phone did you have?
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This is tmoUS, guys. They're notorious for having ****ty 3G service. No point in having HSPA+ when the majority of the people are still reliant on EDGE. Hopefully by summer you guys will get decent coverage.

hazard99 said:
I thought maybe I was having this same problem yesterday..
thought eh its all in my head.
Maybe it was due to them activating my new data plan, from Android data to Smart phone data. I don't know, just guessing/QUOTE]
What phone did you have?
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HTC Dream.
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lude219 said:
This is tmoUS, guys. They're notorious for having ****ty 3G service. No point in having HSPA+ when the majority of the people are still reliant on EDGE. Hopefully by summer you guys will get decent coverage.
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I'm in NYC. The 3G is good here. Rarely had problems. Probably only a day or something that I can remember.

spotty here in denver. got mine last night. can't get any gps satellites for google maps either.
-Tony

""there was an issue with the settings...
you can try a couple of things first...
if you are familiar with windows (which sounds like you are), you need to go change the access point name (apn) to one of 2 options...
wap.voicestream.com
epc.tmobile.com""
It was set to epc.tmobile.com
I tried to change it to wap.voicestream.com, but that setting errored out.
Then couldn't get the epc.tmobile.com setting to work which is strange. Soo, did a hard reset and let it set up again. Same thing. I can connect to internet with Edge, but 3g even though it shows the signal bars and everything seems great will not connect to internet, download email, update weather, etc.

I too am have this problem... Sometimes web works great, other times no web but strong 3G.... I thought I was going crazy...

My internet was working really slow yesterday when I first got the phone (5-60 kbit/s). Called up tmo to ask if maybe they had set me up with just tzones or something. The guy said "no everything looks fine here...oh wait I see there's something that needs to be reset; I'm surprised you were getting internet at all." When I asked him what it was he said he "couldn't really explain what it was", to which I replied "..."
Anyway, it seems to be working fine now. Don't know if this could be related to the problems you're having, but giving tmobile a call couldn't hurt, maybe they can flip the magic unexplainable switch for you.

Ok so I couldn't get internet for two days now, I called T-mobile twice and told me to wait 48 hours. After thinking something was fishy, I looked at my receipt from Wal-Mart where I purchased the phone and I noticed something peculiar: "REQ Android Web: 30:00". Knowing damn sure I did not purchase an android phone, I called T-Mobile for the third time, complaining, so the first guy transferred me to another operator. He checked out my account and it turned out that I didn't have any data plan at all. So he added the plan and within 20 minutes I was surfing. Everything works great. I'm getting about 850 kbps in northwest Indiana.
It's very interesting that the first two operators I called never even bothered to look at my account to see if I have a data plan.

Just discovered new regarding the no data issue.
I had the no data problem again today, even though it was working in the morning. I decided to reboot and check, but then I noticed the 'Terminate Data Connection' option when I hold down the power button. So I tried it. It killed the data connection and when I went into Google Maps, the data connection reactivated and everything was fine again.
So, it may be a bug!

Replacement for Slide

I've had it with this piece of ****. I'm on my 3rd Slide and STILL have "Generic Network Failure"s when trying to send or receive MMS, get "Unable to send message, retrying" with 3 god damn bars of service when trying to send an SMS sometimes, lose my E and 3G data connection all the time even though T-Mo says I should get a good 3G connection. So, what is something comparable to this? Has to be Android. T-Mo wants to send me a Blackberry something or other, and I have no interest at all in that.

There gonna try to send you something comparable. What they think is comparable is whether or not you have a keyboard or not, not what OS your current phone has. If you complain enough you may be able to get a Vibrant but odds are against you. Threaten to leave and that may help.

Firsr and most importantly have you tried setting the phone to 3G only? Also Making sure you have the correct data plan (its slide specific not android..stupid tmo) and making sure no app or anything is messing with apns?

turboyo said:
Firsr and most importantly have you tried setting the phone to 3G only? Also Making sure you have the correct data plan (its slide specific not android..stupid tmo) and making sure no app or anything is messing with apns?
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Que? There are different data plans? Yea, I've tried setting it to 3g only. The problem with that is I barely get a signal in my house. All the APNs are what they should be, none of those settings has changed. The odd part is on each of the phones, I have had my apps installed on day one, and the thing works fine for a couple of weeks, then I start having these problems out of the blue.

i started having issues a few weeks ago in my area, i had awesome data speeds when i connected, but 9/10 times i would get half of the page loaded and then it would hang which meant resetting my data connection or rebooting the phone or any number of other fixes. i have the advantage of working at a t-mo store and was able to pull up the map of my area and see that they were working on my tower at home and as of a few days ago my connection is 6-7mbps down and solid as hell, i used to go to bread co to use wifi but tethering is faster now(and more convenient, and i don't have to worry about a firewall)

did you try a new simcard?

BigFellor said:
Que? There are different data plans? Yea, I've tried setting it to 3g only. The problem with that is I barely get a signal in my house. All the APNs are what they should be, none of those settings has changed. The odd part is on each of the phones, I have had my apps installed on day one, and the thing works fine for a couple of weeks, then I start having these problems out of the blue.
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yes theres a slide specific data package. Im sure you have it if it works for the most part but yea the android data package will not work supposedly. and of course theres the sidekick package blackberry etc

The slide package is 5 dollars more. I was originally signed up for it but I called in and got it switched. The dataplan works fine, I wish I could say as much for the phone. My third replacement will be here this week...
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App

My 4th replacement is in the mail right now. Tmobile offered me a blackberry 9700 to replace it, obviously I jumped all over that(insert sarcastic undertones).
I'm gonna wait for the HSPA+ phones to come out and maybe I can talk them into giving me one at full upgrade price, I would take the Vibrant, but I can't stand that phone. It only takes a few warranty exchanges and finding the right rep, and you can get whatever you want from tmobile.

[Q] Orange UK - 3G does not work..

Hi all,
Wonder if you can help me as I'm beginning to lose it with this phone..
I've not had a decent connection since I bought the phone back in september. Basically a 3G signal means no connection. Nothing happens, no data. When its on the 'H' sign it works really well but it stays on H for like 10 seconds before switching back to 3G.
I've googled this problem and it seems I'm not the only one with this issue. I've changed the network settings, and even tried various radios to no avail. I have good 3G coverage in my area so there shouldn't be a problem at all. Even in central london it doesn't work. It's too unstable and virtually unusable..
Can anyone suggest any other possible solutions to this please?
Thanks

Talk to lennyuk about this
He got on well against orange and can tell you the story of what's wrong

I had this problem before! Orange just sent me a new SIM and it was all sorted !

Thanks chaps,
I've just PM'd Lenny!
alex: I'll ring them up and ask them to send me a new one if it still doesn't work. I'm sooo not looking forward to explaining to them what the issue is...haha

Ah, I had this problem, and it left me 4 months without data thanks to oranges stupidity.
Anyway a short term fix will be to dial *#*#4636#*#* and go phone options, then change your network in the drop down box to 2g only (or similar can't remember the phrase it uses)
2g still works all the time.
As for the long fix, you will need to speak to orange and demand to speak to "high tech" support they can fix it (well they did for me eventually). The problem they said was that my phone was connecting to both an old tower and a new "super tower" they orange UK are installing across the country, this confused the phone and messed up its data connection when on 3g, as it was trying to pull data from 2 towers at one time.
Orange eventually forced me onto one tower (or so they told me) and for a large part the problem was solved from there on in.
You do have to remember as well though the Hero has some 3g compatibility issues with Orange's existing network (again stupid orange), this is something that can never really be fixed.
Orange support can be very helpful if you speak to the right people, don't be afraid to tell them to put you through higher up straight away.
Hope this helps.

Thank you very much for the informative reply Lenny
I'll keep you all updated.

Just a quick update..
I had 2 weeks of stable connection up until a few days back! It had been fine ever since Orange fixed the 3g/gprs problem after it went down for everyone. Probably due to the low traffic? (see below)
So I phoned Orange yesterday and explained my problem and asked to be put through to the 'high tech' department. However, after a while being on hold, the 1st line support advisor said she'll call me back asap as the techies were busy. She called back about 20min later, just as I popped downstairs for 30 seconds! Anyway, she left a message explaining the problem. Turns out that my area has 2 masts both of which are running at full capacity, and there's not enough bandwidth for everyone, hence why my connection has been unstable. She also said that they're going to be upgrading the capacity on the 18th which should fix it.
Another thing she mentioned was that, next month when orange and tmobile merge there's going to be more masts for our phones to connect to - more coverage and bandwidth. You can sign-up to trial this on the orange website.

[Q] CM11 (Temaseks's) and TW roms???? I'm stumped!

Hi all.
After many months pottering along with, at first, X Note, then Echoe, I was becoming more and more frustrated by the N9005's poor signal performance. As a cabbie who has calls diverted to the mobile, I need a fairly reliable setup. At first my network sent me a new sim card, as these can cause issues (apparently?), but I still had really poor network access. I could stand in the middle of Eastbourne and only recieve 2g or Edge at best! I have tried different modems, FNF, GNG etc but the problem persisted.
Yesterday, the phone nearly ended up spread across the motorway. NO SIGNAL at Gatwick Airport! Sometimes I'd get LTE at Gatwick, but the minute I opened a browser it would go, and I'd be stuck for checking flights etc. After months of putting up with this, I decided to try another providers sim. Same result!:crying:
I arrived home yesterday evening and went hunting for a more permanent cure. The wife persuaded me to ditch the hammer and try and sort it another way.
I downloaded Temasek's CM11, added the OnePlus bits and papyrus, got it up and running and viola!! There has not been a location today where I haven't had a signal. I've even had LTE at full signal, and I could use it!! Even in the darkest depth's of Sussex, I at least got a 2G signal to make and receive calls. My previous blackspots are now useable.
Does anyone know of why there is a reason why this should happen? My baseband has NOT been changed. I was on echoe 18 with GNH1, and I still use that baseband. I'm stumped by this. I can't see O2 turning the knob up to 11 overnight. Is it something to do with touchwiz?
I know the rom is nearly 1gig lighter, but I can't see how that would change things that noticeably? Maybe someone more knowledgable could enlighten me.

Mulletmeister said:
Hi all.
After many months pottering along with, at first, X Note, then Echoe, I was becoming more and more frustrated by the N9005's poor signal performance. As a cabbie who has calls diverted to the mobile, I need a fairly reliable setup. At first my network sent me a new sim card, as these can cause issues (apparently?), but I still had really poor network access. I could stand in the middle of Eastbourne and only recieve 2g or Edge at best! I have tried different modems, FNF, GNG etc but the problem persisted.
Yesterday, the phone nearly ended up spread across the motorway. NO SIGNAL at Gatwick Airport! Sometimes I'd get LTE at Gatwick, but the minute I opened a browser it would go, and I'd be stuck for checking flights etc. After months of putting up with this, I decided to try another providers sim. Same result!:crying:
I arrived home yesterday evening and went hunting for a more permanent cure. The wife persuaded me to ditch the hammer and try and sort it another way.
I downloaded Temasek's CM11, added the OnePlus bits and papyrus, got it up and running and viola!! There has not been a location today where I haven't had a signal. I've even had LTE at full signal, and I could use it!! Even in the darkest depth's of Sussex, I at least got a 2G signal to make and receive calls. My previous blackspots are now useable.
Does anyone know of why there is a reason why this should happen? My baseband has NOT been changed. I was on echoe 18 with GNH1, and I still use that baseband. I'm stumped by this. I can't see O2 turning the knob up to 11 overnight. Is it something to do with touchwiz?
I know the rom is nearly 1gig lighter, but I can't see how that would change things that noticeably? Maybe someone more knowledgable could enlighten me.
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That's quite interesting to read, I've never had or noticed any signal discrepancies on TW vs AOSP. It could simply be the APN settings in the TW ROM - with O2 there is three APN's one for pre-pay (pay as you go) - Post-Pay (month-to-month) and Monthly (self explanatory).
It's entirely possible that when you flashed the TW ROM it defaulted to one of the other APN's and not the one you actually need to use. Only logical reason I can think of anyway.

radicalisto said:
That's quite interesting to read, I've never had or noticed any signal discrepancies on TW vs AOSP. It could simply be the APN settings in the TW ROM - with O2 there is three APN's one for pre-pay (pay as you go) - Post-Pay (month-to-month) and Monthly (self explanatory).
It's entirely possible that when you flashed the TW ROM it defaulted to one of the other APN's and not the one you actually need to use. Only logical reason I can think of anyway.
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Mmmmm, you could be right. At present it's showing mobile.o2....giffgaff and tesco. When I check the 02 one the settings appear to be the same as before. I'll load a backup tw rom and have a nosey around. What ever has happened, I'm loving it! Maybe everything went back to default when I first connected to the network?

Mulletmeister said:
Mmmmm, you could be right. At present it's showing mobile.o2....giffgaff and tesco. When I check the 02 one the settings appear to be the same as before. I'll load a backup tw rom and have a nosey around. What ever has happened, I'm loving it! Maybe everything went back to default when I first connected to the network?
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If I recall correctly there is a tiny change in the mobile.o2.co.uk vs one of the others which determines which APN you are on. It's only noticeable once you put all three together and see.
It actually caught me a while back on my HTC ONE on O2 then my Note 3 (initially on 3 but data was fine until I switched to O2) I lost data and couldn't figure out why until I trolled the O2 forums and seen the slight difference. Off the top of my head, I can't remember which one it is, but when you see it you'll be like DOH! haha. But yeah, I think that is the reason why. It is possible the custom TW ROM hasn't got the correct APN's set up. best way to test is reflash it. Delete the O2 APN then set it up yourself (use the O2 forum for 100% compatibility) and see how it goes.

radicalisto said:
If I recall correctly there is a tiny change in the mobile.o2.co.uk vs one of the others which determines which APN you are on. It's only noticeable once you put all three together and see.
It actually caught me a while back on my HTC ONE on O2 then my Note 3 (initially on 3 but data was fine until I switched to O2) I lost data and couldn't figure out why until I trolled the O2 forums and seen the slight difference. Off the top of my head, I can't remember which one it is, but when you see it you'll be like DOH! haha. But yeah, I think that is the reason why. It is possible the custom TW ROM hasn't got the correct APN's set up. best way to test is reflash it. Delete the O2 APN then set it up yourself (use the O2 forum for 100% compatibility) and see how it goes.
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Right, I installed my back up of Echoe 18 and checked. There are MANY different o2's in there! Post Pay, Pre pay, messaging, GiffGaff, tesco pre and post etc.... CM11 has three!! O2 post, GG and Tescos. The O2 post pay shows business, which is what I pay for. Maybe there was a bit of a conflict going on somewhere. I'll run the CM11 for a few days and then try Echoe again with my current settings as I love that rom.

Mulletmeister said:
Right, I installed my back up of Echoe 18 and checked. There are MANY different o2's in there! Post Pay, Pre pay, messaging, GiffGaff, tesco pre and post etc.... CM11 has three!! O2 post, GG and Tescos. The O2 post pay shows business, which is what I pay for. Maybe there was a bit of a conflict going on somewhere. I'll run the CM11 for a few days and then try Echoe again with my current settings as I love that rom.
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If you're using Business you will need to use Monthly/create a monthly one yourself, Not many people use Business and the dev' of the ROM probably didn't think it would affect it (who would?). Thought it may have been that! Least we know the problem now though :good:
HERE is the APN settings for each on O2's support site. Have a tinker
EDIT: Ignore the iPhone sh!t, for some reason O2 seem to think everyone uses a damn iPhizzle.

radicalisto said:
If you're using Business you will need to use Monthly/create a monthly one yourself, Not many people use Business and the dev' of the ROM probably didn't think it would affect it (who would?). Thought it may have been that! Least we know the problem now though :good:
HERE is the APN settings for each on O2's support site. Have a tinker
EDIT: Ignore the iPhone sh!t, for some reason O2 seem to think everyone uses a damn iPhizzle.
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I have managed to have a word with my friend who works for 02 (that's why I'm with them!! Staff discount LOL). He went through the settings and suggested that everything got 'decluttered' and reset when I went AOSP. Sometimes, when you first log on to network all your settings are refreshed / corrected. So there we go then. A complete spring clean of phone ( bit late I know ) and as he suggested, there must have been a conflict in the settings. He also pointed out that in CM11 the network switching is less complicated. You only get LTE or 3G to pick from and maybe that creates a faster mode switch, although he did say that could be a myth. He's been playing with his One Plus and loves the 'lightness' of the CM rom.
As for iPhones well..... he's had two returned this week. Apparently the large iPhone 6 mega thing can be bent inadvertently! You WILL never see me with an iPhone or iPad, but Macs are the dogs danglies!!