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I've got a T-Mobile MyTouch slide, and my plan has the full smartphone data plan (not tzones or phone first web), is there a way to get it to work properly?
Long story short I can't put the android web on this line because I work for T-Mo and the fourth line is restricted to having a smartphone data plan, all three of my other lines have android.
I've looked around, seen some stuff on tzones, but not on this, I fear it won't work, but any input would be appreciated.
If you don't have an answer and you work with tmobile, I don't think any of us will be able to answer that.
Personally I can't see swapping plans between lines. It is a contract after all.
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Sorry, let me explain that since I work for T-Mo, I get special plans available, they only allow me to have three regular lines, and a line with limited minutes and smartphone data. There is just no way to currently change the fourth line to have android.
I also have a an HD2 running android and it works fine with Smartphone web.
russbustah said:
Sorry, let me explain that since I work for T-Mo, I get special plans available, they only allow me to have three regular lines, and a line with limited minutes and smartphone data. There is just no way to currently change the fourth line to have android.
I also have a an HD2 running android and it works fine with Smartphone web.
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Don't take this the wrong way, but why do you have so many phones with plans? You only have one mouth. Lmao. I could understand at least two phones. One for business and one for pleasure, but you must have four different girl friends calling you on four different phones or something. REMEMBER DON'T TAKE THIS THE WRONG WAY.
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OuncE718 said:
Don't take this the wrong way, but why do you have so many phones with plans? You only have one mouth. Lmao. I could understand at least two phones. One for business and one for pleasure, but you must have four different girl friends calling you on four different phones or something. REMEMBER DON'T TAKE THIS THE WRONG WAY.
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Maybe he's a tester? Hes getting limited uses on the phones so thats my guess???...I could be wrong tho.
I get employee plans that are dirt cheap, one for me, one for my gf, one for my bro, lol.
I also traffic drugs... On my prepaid plans!
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russbustah said:
I get employee plans that are dirt cheap, one for me, one for my gf, one for my bro, lol.
I also traffic drugs... On my prepaid plans!
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Thanks for the drug notice(lol i need a hook up)
and btw_ur a t-mobile rep(worker), why wouldnt you just call corporate and ask??
russbustah said:
I get employee plans that are dirt cheap, one for me, one for my gf, one for my bro, lol.
I also traffic drugs... On my prepaid plans!
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That's more understandable. I thought they were all yours. Although I'm pretty sure you're playing about the drug comment, but I use to sell; hence the name OuncE718.
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I get the same customer care everyone else gets, not that they're terrible, but generally google is faster.
Also, they say no android data on that fourth line, and as far as they're concerned that's that, I was just wondering if there was a way to set up different APNs or get some sort of data workaround, since my HD2 runs Android fine with smartphone web.
I work at tmo and we get 5 lines now as of earlier this month I believe. (which you can add android web to) Go to the employee phone site and check your available lines! I currently have 4 android phones running on the employee android web feature.
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As a former TMO employee, I can tell you that with their limitations on what plans could be on what lines, it is tied to the SIM, regardless of what phone or APN settings you have.
Also, MAN do I miss the cheap plans they use to have. I worked there when they were still Voicestream, and I think back then it was like $5 a line.
I was wondering if i can use unlocked tmobile htc hd2 with the $10 data plan (unlimited) that is available for non smartphones. Will tmobile realize that i am using htc hd2 and upgrade it to smartphone data plan? i am gonna make a contract with a non smartphone and add that 10 dollar data plan to use it on my htc hd2 Do you have to have an Unlocked htc hd2 (not tmobile branded) to do that? is it even possible either way?
Yes it is possible to do such a thing, but for how long is currently unknown. T-Mobile has recently started denying people using the non-smartphone internet with smartphones internet access as it is a violation of the TOS...so good luck!
So i can do it with the tmobile branded unlocked htc hd2? but dont they know that i i am using htc hd2 if i use the 10$ data plan and automatically upgrade it?
Yes they will know you are using an HD2, and yes, it is possible that they will upgrade it automatically. My advice; just opt for the 20USD unlimited smartphone data from the start...you won't have to setup the proxy or live in fear that your plan will be upgraded.
Isnt it 30 USD? if it was 20 then i can probably get the data plan but i am pretty sure the data plan is $30. Wait so if you dont get the $10 data plan on the tmobile branded unlocked htc hd2, will they know its a hd2?
There's no way to get around it. They will know what phone you're using. I do not know if they will make a change to your plan without confirming with you.
I don't know how you will actually enable the $10 plan in the first place though.
Thats a good point aswell. You have to have a device that supports the 10USD plan to even add it to your plan, so you may not be able to anyways. And the full internet is either 20 or 30 depending on your contract arrangement.
I recently got my phone and it's working for me. I get HSDPA speed with the $10 internet.
Yeah it should work.... just so you know you are defrauding the T-Mobile network. There's still a lot folks out there that are apparently still on the T-Zone plan as well....
Actually if you know or are familiar with those Asian run phone shops and ask nicely you don't even need a dumb phone to setup the $10 plan, the reps that work there will just call T-mobile and defraud the whole system for you.....
Yeah... that's just jolly.
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Yeah it should work.... just so you know you are defrauding the T-Mobile network. There's still a lot folks out there that are apparently still on the T-Zone plan as well....
Actually if you know or are familiar with those Asian run phone shops and ask nicely you don't even need a dumb phone to setup the $10 plan, the reps that work there will just call T-mobile and defraud the whole system for you.....
Yeah... that's just jolly.
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Does it really bother you that somebody else has a good deal going with t-zones on the HD2? If it makes you feel better, T-Mobile will probably be forcing users to upgrade their plans starting this Wednesday.
Yeah to me it kinda does, because they know they are screwing the system but continue to do it. Anyways I formally ask that this NOT turn into another debate about the morallity of people using the 10USD plan versus the correct one. Thanks.
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Does it really bother you that somebody else has a good deal going with t-zones on the HD2? If it makes you feel better, T-Mobile will probably be forcing users to upgrade their plans starting this Wednesday.
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Bother me, nope.? I don't even have data plan... i refuse to pay for it when i can get free wifi @ my home/campus/work....
The OP asked a question and i voiced his options, all of them.... whether he chooses to to take the dark route or not is his business. In addition i don't see how you can justify calling T-Zones as "has a good deal going" when you are in fact defrauding the network, which i have clearly pointed out in my previous response. My advice is pretty much borderline crack pot shady... but it's been discussed about here numerous times and t-mobile has done nothing to fix his loophole.... yet...
Just to add about the $20 internet plan. I have it for my HD2 (part of family plan), the rep added it when we were renewing the contract and ordering the phones (my sister got the 3G slide which came with the $25 plan). So if you want it, try calling them and talking to a rep, they should be able to add it for you (YMMV).
T-mobile can block you at any time since they do have a database of their own IMEIs and they know what device is accessing their network by it's IEMI that is transmitted every time the phone accesses the network.
It would be a very simple task for T-mobile to block the non supported devices for that data plan
Well here is what happend when I upgraded one of my lines. I just upgraded to an HD2, a couple days later theytossed on a 104 web plan. Which is fine cuz I want to use the web anyways. when I first was using my HD2 it said that it needed a subcription to access the web, blah blah. So, i changed the wap settings to internet2.voicestream.com and it works great. 3g speeds and everything.
Why did you change to the slower proxy?
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Why did you change to the slower proxy?
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The stock epc.tmo doesnt work when you have the 104 (non smart phone plan). The speeds are the same with the internet2 settings. unless you know of a different one that works a well. It works just fine.
I had a phone recently, Nokia 5530, and had the 10 dollar internet plan and I noticed depending where I was in the country I sometimes would get full internet access and other times I would get off the standard tzone areas and it would show subscription upgrade required message.
I think it might depend on where you live for this to work. Perhaps the WAP settings might also work.
There is a way to get the $10 t-zone plan on your HD2
Here is a simple way to get the t-zone on your HD2..
1) Login to your t-mobile account via the web.. register first if you haven't do so.
2) when you login, T-mobile might choose your phone (maybe HD2 already selected).. at this moment, change your phone to any non-smartphone.. like samsung T509 or any non-smartphone as your default phone.
3) go to change service and add the $10 t-zone internet to your plan
4) set your HD2 with the right APN setting you're OK.
5) For me, if you're using internet2.voicestream.com in Winmo works OK and in Android works OK.
This is a cheated way or gray area... Either way T-mobile make extra $$$ from you. I think T-mobile knows this loop hole, but they keep it open because they don't want to upset us cheapie????
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did they get rid of this? I do not see the option anymore.
I’ll be blunt. I am from California, USA, however, I use a UK HD2 on T-mobile. I’ve never had the urge to use 3G on my phone; I have wifi everywhere I go. Even if I wanted to, I couldn’t, right?
Anyways, I’ve recently had an urge to try out data on my phone… First, Is it possible via t-zones or web2go? Knowing that I can’t use t-mobile’s 3G (my Leo doesn’t have those frequencies) can I use t-zones or web2go? ?
T-mobile has not been able to catch/record my phone-type on their website. They don’t even know I have a UK HD2. For all they know, I could be using a DUMB-Phone. I’ve had my Leo for more than a year now. Haven’t been caught.
lemonspeakers said:
I’ll be blunt. I am from California, USA, however, I use a UK HD2 on T-mobile. I’ve never had the urge to use 3G on my phone; I have wifi everywhere I go. Even if I wanted to, I couldn’t, right?
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Just switch the wifi off, lol. Your phone will default to mobile data as long as that's switched on in the options.
lemonspeakers said:
Anyways, I’ve recently had an urge to try out data on my phone… First, Is it possible via t-zones or web2go? Knowing that I can’t use t-mobile’s 3G (my Leo doesn’t have those frequencies) can I use t-zones or web2go?
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Can't help you there.
lemonspeakers said:
T-mobile has not been able to catch/record my phone-type on their website. They don’t even know I have a UK HD2. For all they know, I could be using a DUMB-Phone. I’ve had my Leo for more than a year now. Haven’t been caught.
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Caught doing what? You think they give a **** what type of phone you're using? You could use a couple of cans and a piece of string for all they care, as long as you're paying them your monthly blood sacrifice.
Do you have Tzones or web2go on a line already? If not, it is very difficult (but not impossible) to get it added b/c it is a grandfathered plan.
If you already have the plan (or get it added) then yes it will work with your phone. You will of course be on 2g which is painfully slow however. I bought my HD2(US version) second hand and have been using it with my Tzones plan since April (running both winmo and android). On my.tmobile.com they still think I am using a dumbphone.
thank you, but my question is: will i be able to use 2G even if i have a UK HD2 under US tmobile????
I'd imagine so, if you get data enabled they'll enable it, you're paying them they don't care what you're using, however depending on what bands you can use I'm unsure, I have gsm 900 1800 and wcdma I believe (2g 3g and hspda). If you're network works on any of those you're good to go
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thank you, but my question is: will i be able to use 2G even if i have a UK HD2 under US tmobile????
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2G yes
3G no
I don't see why you feel what you are doing is so covert and sneaky. I have a European HD2 and was in the US for a few months this year, bought an AT&T pre-paid sim and used it, simple...why would they care?
Is anyone using the Dell Venue Pro here on the $10 internet plan from T-Mobile? Just wondering if it works because I hate paying $30 per month on a phone I buy without contract. Currently on the Dell Streak with the Web2Go plan.
this phone is under t mobile networks .the streak is not . it is unclear you can use this phone under t mobile. t mobile will track if you have web 2 go on your phone. Via your special imei and charge you without notice.
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lemonspeakers said:
this phone is under t mobile networks .the streak is not . it is unclear you can use this phone under t mobile. t mobile will track if you have web 2 go on your phone. Via your special imei and charge you without notice.
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He would be using the Streak unlocked on T-Mobile 2G.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1689319-Dell-Venue-Pro-with-Web2Go and other web sources suggest that, in fact, T-Mobile has only blocked web2go plans on Android phones - the HD7 has worked fine on the $10 plan, and the Venue Pro likely will too. You just need to change the APN.
As far as I can tell, T-Mobile is not using IMEI tracking... http://wiki.howardforums.com/index.php/T-Mobile_Data#T-Mobile_APNs suggests that they have just rigged certain APNs to be incompatible with Android. AT&T prepaid does the same thing with the iPhone and Blackberry APN. This is cheaper for the carrier than IMEI checking; they are lazy
I say go for it. Wish I could too - I just don't want postpaid.
awesome. i live an hour away from the microsoft store in mission viejo but it'd hate to make another trip there just to return the phone. i called yesterday and they said they would have stock early next week.
untrueparadox said:
awesome. i live an hour away from the microsoft store in mission viejo but it'd hate to make another trip there just to return the phone. i called yesterday and they said they would have stock early next week.
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The word of warning is that, even if this does work (like it has been reported to work on the HD7), you may experience 2G-like speeds despite having 3G reception. People think that maybe web2go is throttled, according to some of the forums.
Gee, I wish this kind of $10 data deal was available on prepaid.
untrueparadox said:
Is anyone using the Dell Venue Pro here on the $10 internet plan from T-Mobile? Just wondering if it works because I hate paying $30 per month on a phone I buy without contract. Currently on the Dell Streak with the Web2Go plan.
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Hi, I just get an unlocked Dell Streak can you help me how to set up a Tzone on Dell Streak? I try all day but still dont know how to do it.
Thanks,
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benjaminries said:
The word of warning is that, even if this does work (like it has been reported to work on the HD7), you may experience 2G-like speeds despite having 3G reception. People think that maybe web2go is throttled, according to some of the forums.
Gee, I wish this kind of $10 data deal was available on prepaid.
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woah! where did you read this information that Web2Go is throttled?
I would like to find out as well!!!
lemonspeakers said:
woah! where did you read this information that Web2Go is throttled?
I would like to find out as well!!!
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I had read a slow speed report here http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/nexus-one-general-discussion/4131-t-mobile-web2go-3g-speed.html but now I've read a few other reports and it sounds like other people are getting full HSPA+ no problem.
benjaminries said:
The word of warning is that, even if this does work (like it has been reported to work on the HD7), you may experience 2G-like speeds despite having 3G reception. People think that maybe web2go is throttled, according to some of the forums.
Gee, I wish this kind of $10 data deal was available on prepaid.
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wrong, t-mobile does not throttle plans unless you exceed a cap. the issue you guys are talking about is with the nexus one. it doesn't hold a connection very well as evident by the varying speeds i get with it (i test in the same place).
nexus14 said:
wrong, t-mobile does not throttle plans unless you exceed a cap. the issue you guys are talking about is with the nexus one. it doesn't hold a connection very well as evident by the varying speeds i get with it (i test in the same place).
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Yeah, see the post just before yours.
nexus14 said:
wrong, t-mobile does not throttle plans unless you exceed a cap.
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What about when you have a grandfather plan ($5) t-zones and you have unlimited data and you are using it under t-mobile nexus One 3G? Do they ever throttle your speeds even though you have unlimted? And say you've gone over 5G a month =P
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Yeah, see the post just before yours.
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yes you did but your answer was not definite. i was attempting to say that this so-called throttled speeds is actually the inability of the nexus one to hold a stable data connection.
@lemonspeakers: i have t-zones but i have never been throttled. however, i have never exceeded the 5 gb cap either. if you do exceed it though, i know some ways to get around it but i am not sure if they work
http://board.teamwhiskey.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1732&sid=e733dc9116b44cbd8eaa770dbba60479
looks interesting, hope it's legit.
What about for simple mobile?
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With all the new kernels and rom developments lately, my Vibrant is running better than ever before. If this gets confirmed, that's icing on the cake. I could easily stick with this phone for a while.
Just went on the t-mobile website and changed my plan from "T-Mobile Android Unlimited Web" to Unlimited 4G Web. It says it will take up to 24 hours to change, so I will report maybe tomorrow on if I get increased speeds or not.
Hmm, interesting. My wife got a G2 and we switched our plan to an unlimited one an now I have 4g enabled on my plan (says 4g web) but I never really bothered checking speeds. But it might explain why I've been able to stream at 128kbs on tune in radio. I'll need to investigate this more.
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anthonys2r said:
Just went on the t-mobile website and changed my plan from "T-Mobile Android Unlimited Web" to Unlimited 4G Web. It says it will take up to 24 hours to change, so I will report maybe tomorrow on if I get increased speeds or not.
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If you buy any 3G or HSPA+ non-Blackberry smartphone they will put you on the 4G plan. The Android plan is being phased out for a more "general" data plan, and them calling it a 4G Web Plan has no impact on your download or upload speeds. It's practically the same thing.
Went through this with them on the phone when I got my HD7 because I noticed the "Android Unlimited Web" on my Vibrant's SIM (I put hte Unlimited Data in the HD7 and a 200MB plan SIM in the Vibrant). They said it was no difference, but to change it anyways since they're phasing those plans out.
This allows them to have only two types of data plans, like other carriers: Blackberry Plans and a General Data Plan. Before they had Blackberry Plans, Andorid Plans, and a General 3G data plan.
Since most if not all newer smartphones (except mid-range/low-end smartphones and features phones) will be HSPA+ (they call it 4G), they just call it a "4G Web" plan.
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TheMan42 said:
Correct, I'll verify this.
4G web plans do NOT affect download speeds in the slightest, anything someone may think they noticed simply is experiencing a placebo effect.
Older grandfathered plans simply differentiated devices, now the '4G' moniker is used for all plans on any smartphone - be it Windows Mobile, Android, or Blackberry. Blackberry plans are the exception however, as they don't work correctly with other devices as they route through the BIS server. Case in point, theres even a '4G Blackberry web' plan, but no current Blackberry is remotely near 4G, they cap at 3.6 Mbps.
The only things that will affect download speed are the actual terminal you are using and the backhaul of the towers in your present location.
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Thanks for the clarification. I knew this was not what it was being perceived as.
The idea that tmobile has to "enable 4g" from their customer service department seemed fairly ludicrous to me (I almost broke out the "Double facepalm" pic). Especially since my Vibrant connects to HSDPA the majority of the time which I'm fairly certain, since it's backward compatible, is actually the HSDPA+ (tmobile's "4G") network it was connecting to. I never enabled any 4G data plan. Or 3.5G for that matter.
This is also probably an attempt to get people to give up the Twenty to twenty-five dollar android data plans they've been holding onto since the G1 days.
yea, I just changed services to the new "naming scheme". It does nothing.
megatherian said:
yea, I just changed services to the new "naming scheme". It does nothing.
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Man, I really wanted to believe this would work. Anyone else try it out? I tried to see what mine would do, but when I looked at the services, it added 10 bucks to my overall plan, so I didn't go through with it. I'd love to see some other reviews about this.
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Man, I really wanted to believe this would work. Anyone else try it out? I tried to see what mine would do, but when I looked at the services, it added 10 bucks to my overall plan, so I didn't go through with it. I'd love to see some other reviews about this.
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Yea, I'm on flex pay and signed up with T-mobile when I got my Vibrant, so for me the price was the same.
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"4G used in connection with the Galaxy S™ 4G product name refers to the fact that the Galaxy S™ 4G is designed with HSPA+ technology."
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Go figure it out...
This is stupid
Guys, our Vibrants are not 4G devices and wont connect faster than 7Mbs. The plan is called a 4G plan but that doesn't mean that our hardware is capable of those speeds. Don't you think someone would have posted screen shots by now if they were hitting 4G speeds? C'mon you guys should know better than that.
anyone else notice the guy who supposedly worked in corporate in the tw thread is on flex pay....
now...im not at all sure how this works, and i might get flamed for this, but might as well ask.
So since the GS4G is the same as our phones, couldn't people just swap in the 4G radio in the the Vibrant? Much like the FFC mod?
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now...im not at all sure how this works, and i might get flamed for this, but might as well ask.
So since the GS4G is the same as our phones, couldn't people just swap in the 4G radio in the the Vibrant? Much like the FFC mod?
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do you like to solder? It'd be a much more involved upgrade.
I just tried it guys so i will give you the outcome tomorrow
This one time, I went to that place and I saw a leprechaun and he was like bro here's a bazillion dollars. But then I lost my camera and someone stole my money.
Sounds stupid right? Don't go upgrading your grandfathered data plans because this 4G data plan only costs more and wont speed up your phone.
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This one time, I went to that place and I saw a leprechaun and he was like bro here's a bazillion dollars. But then I lost my camera and someone stole my money.
Sounds stupid right? Don't go upgrading your grandfathered data plans because this 4G data plan only costs more and wont speed up your phone.
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O M G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have been trying to figure this out for YEARS! Was he like the mean guy from the movies or the guy from the cereal box? I HAVE TO KNOW!!!