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How to get swedish hardware keyboard with new Imate rom ?

I flashed the latest Imate rom and I really love it. But I cant install my cab to get scandinavian support on the hardware keyboard. When I install it all buttons stops working. Is there any other way of getting swedish layout on the keyboard ? I have tested AKE Map but didn´t understand how to configure swedish support on it

Re: How to get swedish hardware keyboard with new Imate rom
easycure1974 said:
I flashed the latest Imate rom and I really love it. But I cant install my cab to get scandinavian support on the hardware keyboard. When I install it all buttons stops working. Is there any other way of getting swedish layout on the keyboard ? I have tested AKE Map but didn´t understand how to configure swedish support on it
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It can be downloaded from http://www.qtek.se (You have to register to be able to download).

Re: How to get swedish hardware keyboard with new Imate rom
easycure1974 said:
I flashed the latest Imate rom and I really love it. But I cant install my cab to get scandinavian support on the hardware keyboard. When I install it all buttons stops working. Is there any other way of getting swedish layout on the keyboard ? I have tested AKE Map but didn´t understand how to configure swedish support on it
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I just noticed that the file is available on the FTP too! ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Misc/

Thank you but that is the cab that kills the buttons with the new rom. It has worked with all other roms but with new one the buttons stops working. And I have hard reset the phone three times and then installed the cab and every time it kills the buttons if I enable any of the buttonlock feantures. The only button working after that is the powerbutton.
I think I will go back to the test rom from Qtek - at least it makes a working hardware keyboard

I have the same problem. I even downloaded and installed Norwegian version of this new i-mate rom hoping that there is a new CAB for nordic keyboard in the extended ROM, but I was wrong Seems that it is done in some other way now.

Re: How to get swedish hardware keyboard with new Imate rom
I too had the same problem with buttons and keyboard not working after flashing the I-Mate ROM. However, after some fiddling around I found out that changing "Buttons/Lock" settings from "Lock all buttons except Power button" made everything work again...
Cheers,
Christer
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Qtek 9100
ROM: 2.16.9.1 WWE
ROM date: 2/6/06
Radio ver: 02.07.10
Protocol ver: 413.1.03
ExtROM: 2.16.9.101[/list]

Re: How to get swedish hardware keyboard with new Imate rom
For me they work fine with that setting untill I install scandinavian support for the hardwarekeyboard - then they stop working independently of what setting I use.
Have you installed the scandinavian hardwarekeyboard cab ? Can you write swedish characters with it ?
Christer Bengtsson said:
I too had the same problem with buttons and keyboard not working after flashing the I-Mate ROM. However, after some fiddling around I found out that changing "Buttons/Lock" settings from "Lock all buttons except Power button" made everything work again...
Cheers,
Christer
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Qtek 9100
ROM: 2.16.9.1 WWE
ROM date: 2/6/06
Radio ver: 02.07.10
Protocol ver: 413.1.03
ExtROM: 2.16.9.101[/list]
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Ok, I installed the CAB again to get swedish keyboard working. Again - hardware keys do not work. I did set button lock to "Do not lock buttons". Buttons really work now, but of course these are not locked any more. And another bug found now - when I turn off the device (sleep mode) it turns itself on in couple of seconds. Really annoying. I have to hard reset now again to get rid of the keyboard CAB

I haven't upgraded to the new ROM yet because of this..
But, one question. Have any of you guys tried just setting the proper registry value? The cabs also contain a keybddr.dll which seems to be a system level keyboard driver. I'm thinking this could be causing the problem.
The registry key I'm talking about is HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd and the String value "Locale" changed to "0414" for Norwegian layout.
edit: Priit. You said you installed the Norwegian version of the ROM, and the hardkeyboard worked? Could you try extracting the keybddr.dll from \Windows and replacing that file when/if you try out the English ROM? Or even better, attach it here so others can try.

I tried again, did a hardreset and installed the cab. When I have the option set to "Do not lock buttons" all buttons except the D-pad works. But without a D-pad the phone is useless. The other two lock options kills all buttons except powerbutton.
Shall try the registry thing

Tokay, I just found out also that locale ID 0414 works (CAB also creates the same registry key).
Previously I tried with 041d (Swedish) and that did not work.

huh. So all keys work, including the D-pad?
Sweet. Guess this ROM will be installed after work today.. still hate that silly battery indicator on the task bar, though.. :?

Yep. Reinstalled and configured all my software and doublechecked: hardware keyboard acts as it should, all hardware keys ok, including D-pad.
I don't have Norwegian version installed any more but you don't probably want that file any more either

Tokay said:
I haven't upgraded to the new ROM yet because of this..
But, one question. Have any of you guys tried just setting the proper registry value? The cabs also contain a keybddr.dll which seems to be a system level keyboard driver. I'm thinking this could be causing the problem.
The registry key I'm talking about is HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd and the String value "Locale" changed to "0414" for Norwegian layout.
edit: Priit. You said you installed the Norwegian version of the ROM, and the hardkeyboard worked? Could you try extracting the keybddr.dll from \Windows and replacing that file when/if you try out the English ROM? Or even better, attach it here so others can try.
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You are my hero Now I can write my swedish ö

easycure1974 said:
You are my hero Now I can write my swedish ö
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I have no idea how you pull this off. I've modified my registry numerous times, using several different editors (resco, total commander) and the results are very odd.
My keyboard never writes åöä like when I installed the CAB fix with the original ROM (I'm now using the KJAM Rom).
And the strangest thing is, that the changes I make to the registry only "stick" 10% of the time. The rest of the time, my original registry value is restored when I soft reset. I am now stuck with 041d for Swedish. I've also tried (and had the following values stuck):
040b: Finnish
041d: Swedish
0414: Norwegian bokmal
Nothing seems to make any difference though. I can write ä, if I press <blue ball> + symbol four or five times after writing the letter A, but that's probably not the "fix" you guys are cheering about
EDIT: I seem to have found the reason. If I immediately soft reset after editing the registry, it won't stick. That makes "sense" in a weird sort of way, but it still won't fix the order in which åöä appear when I press the blue ball+symbol.
-JJ

Try this CAB I've made. And don't press reset button, but hold down power button until you see a warning "Device will be off, and ...". Press Yes then.

jayjay said:
but it still won't fix the order in which åöä appear when I press the blue ball+symbol.
-JJ
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I'm using an english hardware keyboard with norwegian layout (0414).
I've heard someone complain about the swedish not working, but I haven't tested it.
Try "blue ball" + arrow keys. See if you get scandinavian characters...
The swedish characters are also on the norwegian layout (0414), so I suggest you try that if you can't get the swedish working:
I've set it to 0414 (norwegian) and it works like this:
blue+up = å
blue+left = ø
blue+right = æ
blue+down = ä
blue+period (.) = ö
note that 0414 also changes a few other special symbols:
blue+a = :
blue+g = ,
blue+h = '
blue+z = ?
blue+m = /
blue+tab = ~
(I wrote the new symbols onto small white stickers and put them on my keyboard - it's not pretty but it speeds up my typing)

bredita said:
I'm using an english hardware keyboard with norwegian layout (0414).
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Thanks Priit for your effort with the cab, which I ended up not having to use, since I only have linux at home and I can't activesync install programmes...
Although, since I got this device just a few days ago, I forgot I could probably have done it over my wlan. Takes some time to get used to.
Anyway, thanks to you too, Bredita. I can now confirm that neither the finnish or the swedish locale work with my international keyboard. I wasn't too keen on using the Norwegian locale, what with all your silly letters O with dash through it and so on.
But here's the deal: the norwegian locale 0414 WORKS for me as well.
My mistake was, that I thought I had to use it the same way as the cab I got from our vendor. With their patch, I would write the letter "a", and then press blueball+space (symbol). This would turn the previous letter (a) into first "ä" , then "å".
But this way is much faster: I get everything with only two presses, just as easily as writing capital letters with shift. So this is awesome indeed.
A word of caution about the registry editing though. I saw other people claimed that the registry would simply return to its previous value after a soft reset. This happens if you reset immediately after changing the registry. It appears the changes you make aren't actually going into the registry, but some kind of "copy" of the registry, which is synced every now and then. What works for me is, if I wait for as long as it takes until the screen turns off by itself, before resetting.
I confirmed this happens with other registry values as well: I changed the "usealternateedgeicon" to 1, then immediately performed a soft reset and the value was back to 0. So if your registry doesn't play ball, give it a few seconds before resetting.
EDIT: Just found a related thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43135[url]
Thanks for all your help.
-JJ

haw eneybodey found asolution so i can get swedis?. if not how do i get åäö on eng t-bord layout?

Priit said:
Try this CAB I've made. And don't press reset button, but hold down power button until you see a warning "Device will be off, and ...". Press Yes then.
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Just wanted to say that this cab did it for me.
Thank you so much for making it really easy!

o2 mini XDA S Keyboard layout wrong after I-mate ROM update

So i bought myself an o2 mini xda s - Wow it ran like a dog when i first got it. So i updated the rom with the latest imate ROM, after first unlocking the device. Works great, superrr fast!
However now my keyboard is mapped wrong. Physically on my "A" key i have also the "!" on "S" i have the "@". Now, after ROM update, pressing "!" will give me "~" pressing "@" gives me "!" - everything is shifted right one.
I was pointed at the shareware app AEKmapp, but its another app that has to load, and i dont like that. Its also not free, is there another solution to restore my keyboard?

i had this problem as well. The O2 mini S is a ENGLISH (UK) qwerty keyboard which is actually physically different from the K-Jam and 9100 keyboard. I have been using the registries tweak program in this forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725 which allows you to choose a UK or US keyboard layout. I assume there is a registry edit for it somewhere as well. but this is a good way to solve it as well.

Thanks for the thought of why the keyboard 'dot' characters are messed up. Here are the registry changes ....
16. Keyboard language
Registry: HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd
Key: Locale (string)
Value: 0809 English UK
0409 English US
0407 German
0419 Russian
040C French
0410 Italian
040A Spanish
Thanks to "nicodekker" for publishing the list of hacks in the link above.

i had the exactly the same problem as ferrerpheonix. now everything is ok. thank you very much guys.

Simple question about wizard keyboard

does an english wizard have the same physical keyboard (letters in the same positions) than an italian or french or german wizard?
Are the keyboards all the same?
thanx

nope.. T-Mobile germany's keyboards are QWERTZ:
http://www.mobilewhack.com/images/T-Mobile-MDA-Vario.jpg
While here's a French AZERTY:
http://www.smartphonefrance.info/img/Qtek9100-05.jpg

well...i need to know the italian and the english...do they match?

as far as letter and number keys go, yes - IT and EN are both:
QWERTYUIOP
ASDFGHJKL
ZXCVBNM
There may be some difference in the other keys, due to the italian language making use of extended letters a lot (thus putting them on the keyboard would be useful for users of it).
Haven't spotted a picture of an IT one yet

if the underlying question is: Can I use an english ROM with an italian device? The answer is : yes. You will find other posts that explain what registry changes will let you map correctly the keyboard. Like in France we use AZERTY keyboards, so making the correct registry changes, we can use our french keyboard and use the A key and get an A instead of a Q

yes but the problem is that in italian qwerty there are buttons for à,è,é,ò,ì,ù ...very used letter in my language...i just wonder if on english qwerty these letters/button ar present and primary.

Its' the same in French! If you have an italian device and if you update correctly the registry you should have all keys functionning as before. I've not tested it yet on my phone (still a french ROM) but I do it on my PC: french keyboard and english OS. I can use all the accented letters like if I were using a French keyboard with a French OS. I don't see why it should be otherwise on the PPC.

i can't explain...sorry!
what I mean is if the letter/button "è" (for instance) is NOT PHISICALLY present/written on the phisycal qwerty english tkeyboard BUT it is present ( and IT IS PRESENT because I use it everyday) on the italian qwerty...this answers to my question

Not quite sure what you are looking for exactly. Anyway, maybe this will help:
go to \HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd
There should be a "Locale" string value. If it's not there create it! and give it the value "0410"
To get the accented letters like e
press e
then the blue dot (left bottom corner)
then the space bar
I hope I'm making sense.Good luck!

:x
He's asking whether the keys are physically there on the slide-out keyboard. I.e. is there a little label / sticker with "è" on it?
There isn't one the English version (you can still get that character by means of the Sym key in combination with the 'e' key).

just to add confusion to this problem.
i have a t mobile MDA and a frien has a O2 mini and the keyboard layout is different on both. the Mini gets the benefit of a '£' sign whilst i have to get the electronic keyboard out for this. i suppose i could do a reg edit, anyone know how???

QWERTZ keyboard layout

My O2 XDA Mini S has a QWERTZ keyboard layout, and the WM software uses QWERTY layout, thats why whwn I type using the keyboard, Ive always misused the Y with the Z, and vise versa. Also the symbols are all rumnbled into places. Is there a way I can use the QWETZ layout using the english WM, because I believe that the QWERTZ layout maybe compatible to WM German version. (I dont understant german, so I need the english version). Please help, because I dont think I can do anything with the physical layout of my keyboard so I just need a modification with the software.

you need to edit the keyboard language in the registry. the default is 0409 for english. im not sure what the german one is, but check the wiki, i'm sure you can find out some more info in there.
look at the next post, i figured it out
-Nstefanelli-

Code:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd\Locale = 0407
You have to edit the registry, you need to change it from 0409 to the above.
Good luck.
-Nstefanelli-

Hi. I'm not able to safe any keys in the registry.
Done and rebooted. Edit was gone.
Maybe issue with my Registry editor?

I use the german keyboard as well. The easiest solution to that is the Registry wizard
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Upload/cabs/RegistryWizard_PPC.ARMV4.cab
There you just change the keyboard to German and done with it.
As to the other, you should always wait a couple of minutes before reboot, looks like it actually take some time for the system to write it back into the registry.
In addition, it's moire than just the one key to change.
Bye

In here any simular cab like this, but for Czech qwertz keyboard?
Thanx in advance!

roland valentini said:
I use the german keyboard as well. The easiest solution to that is the Registry wizard
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Upload/cabs/RegistryWizard_PPC.ARMV4.cab
There you just change the keyboard to German and done with it.
As to the other, you should always wait a couple of minutes before reboot, looks like it actually take some time for the system to write it back into the registry.
In addition, it's moire than just the one key to change.
Bye
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Thanks.
But this location is not working for me

I have the same problem again....
This fix worked for me with wm5 but I just upgraded to wm6 and kb went to qwerty mode (the hardware is a qwertz).
I tried adding the above-mentioned key to the recommended location, and it did not work (that key does not initially exist on wm6).
I also found two keys: \\\registry\hkcu\keyboard layout\preload\default, and \\\registry\hkcu\keyboard layout\preload\1\default, and both of them had e0010409 as the value. I changed them both to e0010407 and tried coldboot after each (one and then both) and it still doesnt thinks its a qwerty keyboard.
Any ideas guys?
Thanks -- AshayinFLA

change to keyboard with diferente button positions

Hello, i'm waiting from ebay an keyboard for qtek 9000(in this case, T-mobile MDA) and it was a qwertz layout.
the question is, if I change the original keyboard to a new keyboard with diferente button positions such as Ok button,video call button and others, will pda recognize the diference and atribute right function to each button?
url for new keyboard from ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Keypad-Keyboard...yZ150774QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Tanks a lot!!!

Seriously?
No it will not. the picture shows just a QWERT keypad with no electronics so it will not re-map anything (read: it will function exactly as the old keyboard)

remap via software

but how can i do that, which software will i use?
Tanks!

can i change sym.xxxx.txt file and fix ok, start,video call...blablabla buttons?
tanks for help!

I suppose you must find the correct language code for the keyboard,nothing else.
Someone cofirm?

PLEASE????

i don't now if i install imate rom, will solve the problem?
DESPERATED.........

Hell, the keyboard is compatible all most in every button, but wen I install it, after disassemble universal...the original space button was 1 contact, and this new one was 2 contacts.so, the new space button of new keyboard is not campatible....You can see in link, on the back side os keyboard!
At least, housing for universal of the same seller is very,very good!!!
regards