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XDA Mini S Phone operation problem

Hi, I have recently bought the 02 XDA Mini S (UK edition) off o2.
I am havin the following problem:
If I turn on my phone and let it load at the today screen:
1. use normal programs such as file explorer, IE
2. Then open up phone (so it shows the keyboard, start> Phone)
3. When I go into task manager to close programs that I have previously opened the tasks have no text but have a picture next to them. if i select say a program that has the file explorer sign next to it and then select switch to it will open a different program, for example IE or the phone keypad to dial numbers
4. If i close all normal programs in ther i can then move down and select programs that appear not to be there, for example the screen is white but something is selected because there is a blue selection box around that item.
5. I can close all programs fine, but then if i go into Start > phone, nothing seems to happen. i can get into the phone option through the contacts menu but if i press the "keypad" left soft key nothing seems to happen.
I have identified that when i go into task manager and then click Menu > View > change mode a task named " cprog.exe" has a title phone when the phone keypad is open. When i end the phone task this title of phone disappears.
I have tried running a new task to get it to open but nothing happens. I took the phone to several mobile shops and showed the blokes in there. generally they have all said that it appears to be a glitch in the software and that I should ask for a replacement.
One of my mates has one and he has the same problem so i think it could be a problem across all the XDA Mini S's does anyone else have this same problem. Can you let me know how to over come it (So far my only way of overcoming this problem is to turn the phone off, and then on again to acess the phone keypad again but this is very frustrating)
Cheers all

was having the same problem myself i think its something to do with task manager closing down key pad.
do a google for magic button and use that to close down running programs instead of task manager should sort it out.

cheers mate, is there any that you can recomed (ie the one that you have installed yourself) I don't want to muck up the phone.
cheers

here you go.since i started using this i have not had the keypad problem.
http://www.trancreative.com/mb.aspx
hope this is what you are looking for.[/code]

sorry link does not work i`ll try again;
http://www.trancreative.com/mb.aspx

ahh cool mate, your a life saver! can i easily uninstall this if i wish to, how would i go about it!
cheers for all you help

once its installed, how do i open this to close selected programs? cheers

use memory manager)
you're shutting down the phone app. don't shut it down or better still use settings/system/memory/running programs and stop what you want or stop all. you don't need to download stuff. it's been covered here before.

Close, not minimize?

Whats a good program that will cause programs to actually close out in WM6 instead of just minimizing. Maybe one that adds a - next to the x so if you do want to minimize you can.

SPB pocket plus and Quick Menu are both good progs for the purpose.

Have you tried the HTC Task Manager with the X button feature?

The new ROM w/ GPS works by holding on the X, if you set it that way

2x SPB pocket plus! Works great. Never have to think or worry about what's running in the background.

I've been using HandySwitcher by DinarSoft for quite some time. It's nice because it adds an icon to the taskbar at the top and allows you to see all programs that are currently running, and close them individually or all at once. The only thing I find is that even though it has a menu option to launch at start-up e.g. after a reboot, it seldom actually did! A small but annoying issue.
I'm actually trying the HTC Task Manager as mentioned above as it is in the DCD rom. It's okay and does what you'll need, but not as configurable or flexible as HandySwitcher. I'm trying it just because it's there and I was bored It replaces the default X in the corner and allows you to either hit the X or hold it for a short time instead to close the active program. The only way to see what else is open is to return to the Today screen and tap the same icon.

kareem9nba said:
Have you tried the HTC Task Manager with the X button feature?
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no, where or how do i get or do that?

I Installed the new task manager, but the old one is still there. How do i get the new task manager to take priorty and work cause Its still not closing when i hold down x.

Have you tried resetting your device?

Go to start>settings>sytem>task manager and in the settings, se "x" to close down a program.

Three more sub-Homescreens on my Hero!!! YEP, count-um TEN Homescreens!

Do you want an additional 'THREE' customizable homescreens on your Hero? Well, there's an 'app' for that! HA!
First, I'm not sure if doing this has any bugs or inherent problems, and I am not responsible for any problems you may encounter doing this! BUT, I haven't experienced any so far myself.
Anyway, I stumbled onto this by using the Home Switcher app. When I saw how it launched the original Android Home app, that gave me an IDEA.
Using an application called 'Bar Control', I setup a Taskbar ICON to launch the native Android 'Home' application which, if you ask me, 'extends' the Hero with an additional three homescreens. I simply pull down the Taskbar and tap Home to launch the original Android Home app which gives me access to three more homescreens. AND, a simple tap of the Home button takes me back to HTC Sense.
So, I now have TEN (10) homescreens!!!!! These additional native Android homescreens are where I put some Android widgets (non HTC Sense widgets of course). And get this, the two Sprint widgets, NFL Mobile Live and Sprint TV, are available too! The Hero uses the same Wallpaper for both HTC Sense and Home, but it unlocks the native Android wallpaper gallery too.
Steps I did:
1. Downloaded Bar Control from the Market.
2. Launched Bar Control and waited for it to scan all the programs.
3. Scrolled down to the app called, 'Home' and selected it.
4. Selected an ICON of choice. (I used the same home ICON)
5. Pulled down my Notification Bar, tapped 'Home, and WALLA!
Simply hit the Home button to return to HTC Sense.
Note: To get rid of this Home ICON in the Notification Bar, simply perform the first three steps above again which will remove it.
OK, now can anyone tell me of a simple shortcut app that can be set to launch the native Android Home app without having to go through the Taskbar via the Bar Control app in my example above?
So, I believe this is the GREATEST HERO HACK so far!

When two unused screens just aren't enough lol, nice find.

Not really an hack if you ask me... why don't you install a few extra homescreen replacement apps (like openhome) so you'll even have more homescreens

this is not a hack at all. installing apps and using them as intended is as far away from a hack as could be. please change the title, this is so lame...
btw, i would love to have my homescreens scrolling "round", meaning if i swipe screen #7 (the most right one) to the left i want to go to screen #1 (the most left one). anybody know if this is possible?

kendong2 said:
btw, i would love to have my homescreens scrolling "round", meaning if i swipe screen #7 (the most right one) to the left i want to go to screen #1 (the most left one). anybody know if this is possible?
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I would like to know this as well, I sort of wonder why htc didn't design it like that.

DaWeav said:
5. Pulled down my Notification Bar, tapped 'Home, and WALLA!
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[PEDANTRY-MODE]
It's "Voila" not "Walla"!
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Sorry, couldn't resist - to me, it's like fingernails on a black board!
Regards,
Dave

lol, the same happens when you install any theme app such as open home, dxtop, etc...
What happens is, the default for the home button is cleared of it's default (HTC Sense) giving you the option which home screen you want to fire up after holding down the home button.
You could probably just clear the default yourself in App settings, limiting the need for another app all together.

Downloading a home screen app equals hacking your phone?

give him a Break it was his first post.He was over zealous on his find..LOL

well atleast he let us know about his find.sum peeps probably wouldnt had even shared..thx DaWeav

Yup, just to elaborate on what N0J mentioned:
menu/settings/applications/manage applications/HTC Sense
tap "Clear defaults"
Now, every time you push your "Home" button you will be presented with the options "Home" and "HTC Sense." As long as you don't check the default box you will always have a two-touch access to either interface.
Alternatively, for those that prefer vanilla Android to Sense, check the default box and hit "Home." Your phone will no longer load the Sense UI. This can be reversed by going to Home in manage applications (above) and again clearing defaults.

cgraunke said:
Yup, just to elaborate on what N0J mentioned:
menu/settings/applications/manage applications/HTC Sense
tap "Clear defaults"
Now, every time you push your "Home" button you will be presented with the options "Home" and "HTC Sense." As long as you don't check the default box you will always have a two-touch access to either interface.
Alternatively, for those that prefer vanilla Android to Sense, check the default box and hit "Home." Your phone will no longer load the Sense UI. This can be reversed by going to Home in manage applications (above) and again clearing defaults.
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Well said and thanks for the detailing the steps out for me!

Dang. I thought this was actually going to be some useful information that could lead me to getting rid of the 4 unused homescreens

This isn't a hack and not much of a discovery but if it makes you happy...
Would be kind of cool if Sense had 10 screens of its own.

nice find! But yes, 7 home screens is a little much. until we find some better widgets.

kendong2 said:
this is not a hack at all. installing apps and using them as intended is as far away from a hack as could be. please change the title, this is so lame...
btw, i would love to have my homescreens scrolling "round", meaning if i swipe screen #7 (the most right one) to the left i want to go to screen #1 (the most left one). anybody know if this is possible?
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GDE Home Screen does this
edit: by the way this is a dumb "hack"

I'm assuming this works for vanilla android as well? One of the most annoying things about my Moment that my Hero does is only having 3 screens.

Does anyone know how to REMOVE any of the homescreens from sense?
My hero is so slow!

I really hope that as part of an update to Sense that they make it so you can have any number of screens so long as it's 2X+1. (1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11)
Personally, I only really use 5, so I would just drop the last 2 screens and have the little indicator get a tiny bit larger.

quick question about task manager

hey so i use to have a task manager on my phone before i did a hard reset..it was always on the top right corner with 3 bars and a small arrow. and when it opened it would open as a small menu on the top right with the programs and an X next to them. It also had 3 tabs above the programs that were running one showed the ram from what i remember. i cant seem to recall the name..does anyone know which task manger im talking about?

there's several of that type actually., I use and recommend "duttys task manager"

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hey so i use to have a task manager on my phone before i did a hard reset..it was always on the top right corner with 3 bars and a small arrow. and when it opened it would open as a small menu on the top right with the programs and an X next to them. It also had 3 tabs above the programs that were running one showed the ram from what i remember. i cant seem to recall the name..does anyone know which task manger im talking about?
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Go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584415
Look for "Touch X Taskmanager.cab". This is the one that fits your description above.

Question: does Touch X Taskmanager actually close each program after you use it? I'm trying Duttys right now, but I noticed that it often doesn't actually close some applications (eg. Comm Manager) when you press X. And, yes, I did set it up to close programs by pressing X.

Asquared said:
Question: does Touch X Taskmanager actually close each program after you use it? I'm trying Duttys right now, but I noticed that it often doesn't actually close some applications (eg. Comm Manager) when you press X. And, yes, I did set it up to close programs by pressing X.
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Hmmm I've had no trouble with either Duttys or the Touch X taskmanagers when it comes to closing apps with X. I actually have it set to close with a tap-hold instead of just a tap, and comm mgr closes just fine for me, using either method, with both of those taskmanagers. Is it possible that maybe you're pressing just a fraction of a second too long and it's registering as a "tap and hold" instead of just a tap?

I tried duttys once before and it did not want to work with my phone but it downloaded it yesterday and worked like a charm. It is taking me a while to get used to the fact that it is there got so used to launching the task manager

I have it set to close applications with a tap. My touchscreen is so sensitive that it doesn't take much of a tap to accomplish this. Nonetheless, Duttys frequently leaves Comm Manager and ActiveSynch open, and I have to close them with the regular Task Manager -- one reason I also use Cookies Home Tab, so I could include the regular Task Manager as a QuickLink.

Asquared said:
I have it set to close applications with a tap. My touchscreen is so sensitive that it doesn't take much of a tap to accomplish this. Nonetheless, Duttys frequently leaves Comm Manager and ActiveSynch open, and I have to close them with the regular Task Manager -- one reason I also use Cookies Home Tab, so I could include the regular Task Manager as a QuickLink.
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I gotcha. Yes I do see activesync stay open all the time in the background, and it never shows up in Duttys or the touch_x taskmanagers, and I just let it run really. But, never saw that with Comm Manager. Sounds like you've worked around it just fine though

i believe the task manager you are looking for is Maximus Mobile Task Manager or MMTask Manager for short(Not that short) you can find it here >http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=655853

Quick Access to Flip Wifi ON and OFF

One thing I really liked about the HTC Touch Pro 2 (my predecessor to the HTC HD2) was that there was a key on the corner of the keyboard for flipping the WiFi on and off. Now of course on the HD2 I have to go hunt around and find the Comm Manager to then Enable WiFi, and the darn task manager to shut down the Comm Manager once I have turned on the WiFi. And no, I don't want to have to use up a shortcut off the main screen to launch the Comm Manager...
Doesn't anyone have a quick and easy way with one click to flip the WiFi ON and then Back off? Like some kind of a one-click (or better yet key-press) toggle utility?

check out CHT 1.8
has all sorts of great toggle buttons.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625483

That may be true but I don't want a cookie monster phone.

KruseLudsMobile said:
That may be true but I don't want a cookie monster phone.
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The next closest solution is to use one of the existing stand-alone wifi toggle buttons, but you'd still have to give up a quicklink spot to use it, so I don't know if that's acceptable to you or not. Attached is the one I use (also gives you a reset button).

This one gives you several toggles.

On the stock ROM there's an easier method than what your using.. only 2-3 steps, and it's the same steps to turn it ON/OFF.
press the area in the top right corner of the screen (opposite side from where the start menu is)..
once in there, you're at the "Notifications" screen.... at this screen tap the icon on the right side of where is says "T-mobile Data" (where the "3g" or whatever data your on ICON is... looks like a box).
This will take you to the COMM Manager.. you can toggle on off from there...
pretty easy..

Thanks, two other thoughts, and final resolution
I did find I could create a text file which I named wifi.lnk which has only these contents and put it into the /Windows/StartMenu/Programs folder and use that as a quicklink -
46#ctlpnl.exe mycpl.cpl,7?shellres.192.dll,-13999
HOWEVER, SOMETIMES THE OLD TRIED AND TRUE IS BETTER - I JUST REINSTALLED THE GOOD OLD 'QuickMenu' (that can be downloaded from other forums here) and I am using that, take a look at the handy shortcuts it has in the attached screen snapshot (click on the picture to see a larger view).
I have always loved QuickMenu as it lets you get to one of hundreds of programs to launch it quicker than any other method I have ever seen, as well as letting you switch to other programs already ruinning - or shut all the running programs down - very quickly as well.
So, I actually not only saved a quick link spot by not having to have a link to it THE COMM MANAGER, but I also got rid of having to have a dedcated link to the task manager as well!
(CLICK ON THE IMAGE BELOW TO SEE AN EXPANDED VIEW OF IT)