Hi, I have recently bought the 02 XDA Mini S (UK edition) off o2.
I am havin the following problem:
If I turn on my phone and let it load at the today screen:
1. use normal programs such as file explorer, IE
2. Then open up phone (so it shows the keyboard, start> Phone)
3. When I go into task manager to close programs that I have previously opened the tasks have no text but have a picture next to them. if i select say a program that has the file explorer sign next to it and then select switch to it will open a different program, for example IE or the phone keypad to dial numbers
4. If i close all normal programs in ther i can then move down and select programs that appear not to be there, for example the screen is white but something is selected because there is a blue selection box around that item.
5. I can close all programs fine, but then if i go into Start > phone, nothing seems to happen. i can get into the phone option through the contacts menu but if i press the "keypad" left soft key nothing seems to happen.
I have identified that when i go into task manager and then click Menu > View > change mode a task named " cprog.exe" has a title phone when the phone keypad is open. When i end the phone task this title of phone disappears.
I have tried running a new task to get it to open but nothing happens. I took the phone to several mobile shops and showed the blokes in there. generally they have all said that it appears to be a glitch in the software and that I should ask for a replacement.
One of my mates has one and he has the same problem so i think it could be a problem across all the XDA Mini S's does anyone else have this same problem. Can you let me know how to over come it (So far my only way of overcoming this problem is to turn the phone off, and then on again to acess the phone keypad again but this is very frustrating)
Cheers all
was having the same problem myself i think its something to do with task manager closing down key pad.
do a google for magic button and use that to close down running programs instead of task manager should sort it out.
cheers mate, is there any that you can recomed (ie the one that you have installed yourself) I don't want to muck up the phone.
cheers
here you go.since i started using this i have not had the keypad problem.
http://www.trancreative.com/mb.aspx
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sorry link does not work i`ll try again;
http://www.trancreative.com/mb.aspx
ahh cool mate, your a life saver! can i easily uninstall this if i wish to, how would i go about it!
cheers for all you help
once its installed, how do i open this to close selected programs? cheers
use memory manager)
you're shutting down the phone app. don't shut it down or better still use settings/system/memory/running programs and stop what you want or stop all. you don't need to download stuff. it's been covered here before.
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Ok, I've been using Magic Button for about a week but lately i've been encountering some issues that seem to happen every day.
I'll have a few applications open, or through general use (phone, text, etc) there will be other things open. Sometimes when I go to close everything, or close the programs that I don't want to use/have open, I get stuck on certain screens (for example the phone keypad screen) and cannot return to the 'Today Screen' at all, even if I hit the little House icon or go to Start - Today. No matter what I hit, where I go, there are no running programs, I even close Magic button and still cannot get back to the 'Today Screen' until I do a soft reset.
How is this happening and how can I stop it? It's really annoying to have to do a soft reset whenever magic button screws up.
This is a cingular 8125.
Thanks.
thisisunique said:
Ok, I've been using Magic Button for about a week but lately i've been encountering some issues that seem to happen every day.
I'll have a few applications open, or through general use (phone, text, etc) there will be other things open. Sometimes when I go to close everything, or close the programs that I don't want to use/have open, I get stuck on certain screens (for example the phone keypad screen) and cannot return to the 'Today Screen' at all, even if I hit the little House icon or go to Start - Today. No matter what I hit, where I go, there are no running programs, I even close Magic button and still cannot get back to the 'Today Screen' until I do a soft reset.
How is this happening and how can I stop it? It's really annoying to have to do a soft reset whenever magic button screws up.
This is a cingular 8125.
Thanks.
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Phew - I thought I was the only one. I seem to have a few funnies with MB on my O2 Mini. I think you will be able to get back to the Today screen from the Start menu option, if you have it there.
I've just put MB on again the other day, but I think I'll prolly take it off today.
No your not but i'm surprised more people haven't posted about this, I couldn't find anything when I was searching. How is this such a great program if you have to soft reset every day???
I tried hitting the Today option in my Start Menu and that doesn't do the trick either. Trust me i've tried hitting every program in the book only to just waste more time trying to close them all.
Anyone have a fix, solution, beta, anything?
I had the same issue but found that the red 'hang up' button would reliably get me back to the today screen
Hope this helps
Vlado
I had the same problems so stopped using magic button. Try wisbar - same as mb but does not have those problems. Version 1 is free. For a simpler solution use smclose which just changes the minimize button to close button and of course there's vj okbutt which you can map to a button to close an app. (and smartskey as well!)
I've posted several threads about this problem, here and on Modaco. I find vBar is a bit more stable than MB, but even it has problems. I'm told InClose and SPB PocketPlus don't have these problems...
magic button acted funny for me, too, so I went to xbar. Another big plus with xbar (for me) is how easily it's accessed without having to pull out the stylus.
The first day i installed magic button it worked perfect. after letting the phone sleep all night it's gone crazy. All kinds fo freezing. Mine seems to have something to do with magic button being installed on the sdcard instead of in the main memory because it keeps telling me at startup that it can find the require files, even though it's running.
So i diabled autostart and tried just manually starting when i boot up and have had fewer problems. But still problems none the less.
I really don't like the fact that the close button is only set to either-or. It would be nice if we had a close button AND a minimize / put program in background button.
is there any program like this? I wonder how hard it would be to modify the source to do that.
Try the Cyberon voice speed dail, you can close a programm by speech. is on de MDA vario. no los off extra memory and no problems.
Magic Button
I have not experienced any problems at all with Magic Button and have found it to be the best Task Manager for closing running programs, and I also like the fact thast you get an 'active' decktop.
One thing I have noticed since I started running the new o2 ROM is that the Phone icon is ever-present, whereas on the previous ROM it did not stay on the screen permanently. Generally impressed by the speed of the new ROM, but not having any major problems with Magic Button.
I must be the only one who DOESNT have a problem with MB, I've had it since I got my HTC Apache without a hitch I installed it on the main memory and it seems to work quite well with allowing me to keep certain apps alive i.e. phone app, agile, etc.
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I'm using all the default ROMs from O2 on my Exec, I have the normal phone app. etc. - I've also got Magic Button installed because SPB Pocketplus's close button isn't working properly (it's just minimising).
Anyhow, when I make a call on the phone then try to close it it will not close. I can't seem to close it in System>memory>running programs because it doesn't appear and I end up having to reset my phone.
Can anyone think why this is happening? Do let me know if I've missed out any important details.
Closing phone app is not recommanded... You have to use another task manager which propose you to dissimulate the icon in the task bar. I tried a lot and Pocket plus, Wisbar lite, Handy Switcher and many more propose this option.
In fact, if you close phone application, you'll create problems with the connection to the mobile network. The only moment you can do that is for having more memory for an application and when you have activated flight mode. At that time, it's a good idea to close phone app. It's what I do. And to avoid a softreset to do that, you can use the vijay555 (the Great Vijay) app called PhoneToggle which really close it without softreset.
The phone application never actually `closes`.It just stays running in the background.
just press the red phone to return to the today screen.
Trying to close it with any task manager (espacially magic button for some reason) usually results in the Exec crashing.
Good task managers such as Wisbar Advance,ignore the phone app and leave it running in the background when you select `close all programs`,this stops the device freezing.
I`ve used Wisbar for years,and it really is THE best task manager available.
I tried using the red phone button but it does the same thing, at least after I've tried using the normal close button. Also, this never happened when SPB Pocketplus's close button was closing properly.
I can't use wisbar because I really don't like the skin features...
Does the phone icon show up next to the startbutton? If it does, tap and hold your stylus on it, it will show options. You can select an ignore option, this will hide the phone icon and stop magicbutton trying to close it.
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Try vBar. It doesn't close the phone application :lol:
BUT
it closes Pocket Hack Master :x
Going to try vBar - thanks for the suggestion.
vBar crashes the same as magic button when you try to close `all` programs.
You're right
I've been living with this accursed bug for a year.
It's why I need to reboot every cople of days - the more frequently depending on if you use the phone a lot.samewith the programs screen you can't close it or get back to today screen.
bloody thing! when is PPC vista coming out ;-)
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"vBar crashes the same as magic button when you try to close `all` programs."
Doesn't happen to my QTEK 9000
Because you obviously have somehow configured vBar to ignore the phone application.
SPB Pocket Plus is programmed to minimise instead of close certain apps like ActiveSync and the Phone app, and not to display these apps in the ALT+TAB feature.
This is because you shouldn't really close either of those apps, they are needed for correct functioning of the device!
Try SPB Pocket Plus again and bind a key to the ALT+TAB feature, I think you will like that as you see the Phone app and ActiveSync no longer "get in your way" - I love it (just like Windows XP)
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Sorry, you're right that vBar indeed crashes the system BUT only when connected in ActiveSync state. If not AS then it behaves alright.
BTW, vBar does not have an 'EXCLUDED' list or something like that
Just tried InClose Mobile and finds that using IntelliClose it does not close Pocket Hack Master. Others like 'CLOSE ALL' and 'CLOSE ALL BUT ACTIVE' will close Pocket Hack Master. This is explained in the manual
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Hey!
I have been searching for a way to have the homescreen upper right "dropdown menu" always there (in every app or screen) insted of the "X" which apere when in an menu or app.
Can someone clever please help me with a reg entry or small app.
Would be great as a built in task manager were you can with ease switch between apps or just close the ones you dont need with the X beside the appname!
I know you can just press homebutton to go to the homescreen and there it is but that feels sluggish and not very optimal.
And I don't wana use an other havy app like spb or so on..I like the original!
Would be much appreciated!
(sorry for bad spelling)
It's built in (at least on official rom 1.93 that I use)
start
settings
system
task manager
button
untick the first option "Enable x button to end running programs"
Tanx fro you answere.
I got the 1.93 rom and it dosent seem to change anything by doing what you told me to do.. The "X" is still there apart from when in Homescreen..
Anyone else upp for the task hehe
Of course the "x" is still there.. hays described a way to minimize the running app. So the taskmanager is not allways on (as u want it to be) but your app will be minimized and you can switch to another app.
Ok.
so there is no build in function for having the "Dropdown menu" always in the upper right corner..
But can if be done with a small piece of reg edit?
Or if someone can make a little fix for it?
Tanx in advance
I'm sorry dude but I don't know any solution for that too.
Didn't hear of any app like that, but maybe u will find one later
There are plenty of task manager applications that change the behavior of the close button.
I use SPB pocket plus, configured so that X is always close, with an improved task manager that pops up when you tap and hold X. There are plenty of other task manager programs available as I said.
I noticed a bug that allows you to switch to running apps that were left behind with the home button.
Prerequisites: HTC Messages widget on one of the main screens.
Steps to reproduce:
1. Open an application (like 'people') and exit out with the home button, not the back button.
2. Repeat step one if you want to add other apps.
3. Go to the HTC messages widget and tap it to open a message.
4. Select menu option "All messages".
5. Press the 'back' button. This will switch to another app instead of close the messages.
6. Repeat step 5 to close the app and move to the next one.
Further notes:
Some apps will continue to show up even if you press 'back' on them to exit out.
For example, "People", "System settings" and browser never closes. Camera app does close, but you have to leave it by pressing 'home'.
Works on generic 1.5.
android dosent close apps untill needed lol just hold the home button to open any program you have run recently lol
mancsoulja said:
android dosent close apps untill needed lol just hold the home button to open any program you have run recently lol
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I didn't know that - it is not mentioned in the manual. Thanks for that useful tip. Looks like a useful shortcut back to where you were before.
But how do you close a programme rather than let it waste memory and battery in the background?
peterc10 said:
I didn't know that - it is not mentioned in the manual. Thanks for that useful tip. Looks like a useful shortcut back to where you were before.
But how do you close a programme rather than let it waste memory and battery in the background?
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If android needs ram it will close apps as needed but you can always download a task manager from the marketplace, there are some good free ones, i suggest advanced task manager its what i use
It would be good to be able to actually get them to exit properly.
Especially so when you have 4 or 5 "All messages" apps that won't go.
The only use this bug has is to take you to apps that are actually running as opposed to your history.
It also takes you to screens that a task switcher can't do for you, like the last screen you see from your last phone call and the call history.
frankv100 said:
The only use this bug has is to take you to apps that are actually running as opposed to your history.
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I don't see this as being a bug. The ability to be able to short cut to the 6 (I notice it is limited to 6) previously used apps by a long press on the home button is obviously something the designers have deliberately included. And to me it is a useful additional feature (now I have found it!).
It seems to be history rather than running apps you are looking at - I closed several of my running apps using Astro and yet they still subsequently appeared in the list.
hey so i use to have a task manager on my phone before i did a hard reset..it was always on the top right corner with 3 bars and a small arrow. and when it opened it would open as a small menu on the top right with the programs and an X next to them. It also had 3 tabs above the programs that were running one showed the ram from what i remember. i cant seem to recall the name..does anyone know which task manger im talking about?
there's several of that type actually., I use and recommend "duttys task manager"
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hey so i use to have a task manager on my phone before i did a hard reset..it was always on the top right corner with 3 bars and a small arrow. and when it opened it would open as a small menu on the top right with the programs and an X next to them. It also had 3 tabs above the programs that were running one showed the ram from what i remember. i cant seem to recall the name..does anyone know which task manger im talking about?
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Go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584415
Look for "Touch X Taskmanager.cab". This is the one that fits your description above.
Question: does Touch X Taskmanager actually close each program after you use it? I'm trying Duttys right now, but I noticed that it often doesn't actually close some applications (eg. Comm Manager) when you press X. And, yes, I did set it up to close programs by pressing X.
Asquared said:
Question: does Touch X Taskmanager actually close each program after you use it? I'm trying Duttys right now, but I noticed that it often doesn't actually close some applications (eg. Comm Manager) when you press X. And, yes, I did set it up to close programs by pressing X.
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Hmmm I've had no trouble with either Duttys or the Touch X taskmanagers when it comes to closing apps with X. I actually have it set to close with a tap-hold instead of just a tap, and comm mgr closes just fine for me, using either method, with both of those taskmanagers. Is it possible that maybe you're pressing just a fraction of a second too long and it's registering as a "tap and hold" instead of just a tap?
I tried duttys once before and it did not want to work with my phone but it downloaded it yesterday and worked like a charm. It is taking me a while to get used to the fact that it is there got so used to launching the task manager
I have it set to close applications with a tap. My touchscreen is so sensitive that it doesn't take much of a tap to accomplish this. Nonetheless, Duttys frequently leaves Comm Manager and ActiveSynch open, and I have to close them with the regular Task Manager -- one reason I also use Cookies Home Tab, so I could include the regular Task Manager as a QuickLink.
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I have it set to close applications with a tap. My touchscreen is so sensitive that it doesn't take much of a tap to accomplish this. Nonetheless, Duttys frequently leaves Comm Manager and ActiveSynch open, and I have to close them with the regular Task Manager -- one reason I also use Cookies Home Tab, so I could include the regular Task Manager as a QuickLink.
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I gotcha. Yes I do see activesync stay open all the time in the background, and it never shows up in Duttys or the touch_x taskmanagers, and I just let it run really. But, never saw that with Comm Manager. Sounds like you've worked around it just fine though
i believe the task manager you are looking for is Maximus Mobile Task Manager or MMTask Manager for short(Not that short) you can find it here >http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=655853