Magic Button problems - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

Ok, I've been using Magic Button for about a week but lately i've been encountering some issues that seem to happen every day.
I'll have a few applications open, or through general use (phone, text, etc) there will be other things open. Sometimes when I go to close everything, or close the programs that I don't want to use/have open, I get stuck on certain screens (for example the phone keypad screen) and cannot return to the 'Today Screen' at all, even if I hit the little House icon or go to Start - Today. No matter what I hit, where I go, there are no running programs, I even close Magic button and still cannot get back to the 'Today Screen' until I do a soft reset.
How is this happening and how can I stop it? It's really annoying to have to do a soft reset whenever magic button screws up.
This is a cingular 8125.
Thanks.

thisisunique said:
Ok, I've been using Magic Button for about a week but lately i've been encountering some issues that seem to happen every day.
I'll have a few applications open, or through general use (phone, text, etc) there will be other things open. Sometimes when I go to close everything, or close the programs that I don't want to use/have open, I get stuck on certain screens (for example the phone keypad screen) and cannot return to the 'Today Screen' at all, even if I hit the little House icon or go to Start - Today. No matter what I hit, where I go, there are no running programs, I even close Magic button and still cannot get back to the 'Today Screen' until I do a soft reset.
How is this happening and how can I stop it? It's really annoying to have to do a soft reset whenever magic button screws up.
This is a cingular 8125.
Thanks.
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Phew - I thought I was the only one. I seem to have a few funnies with MB on my O2 Mini. I think you will be able to get back to the Today screen from the Start menu option, if you have it there.
I've just put MB on again the other day, but I think I'll prolly take it off today.

No your not but i'm surprised more people haven't posted about this, I couldn't find anything when I was searching. How is this such a great program if you have to soft reset every day???
I tried hitting the Today option in my Start Menu and that doesn't do the trick either. Trust me i've tried hitting every program in the book only to just waste more time trying to close them all.
Anyone have a fix, solution, beta, anything?

I had the same issue but found that the red 'hang up' button would reliably get me back to the today screen
Hope this helps
Vlado

I had the same problems so stopped using magic button. Try wisbar - same as mb but does not have those problems. Version 1 is free. For a simpler solution use smclose which just changes the minimize button to close button and of course there's vj okbutt which you can map to a button to close an app. (and smartskey as well!)

I've posted several threads about this problem, here and on Modaco. I find vBar is a bit more stable than MB, but even it has problems. I'm told InClose and SPB PocketPlus don't have these problems...

magic button acted funny for me, too, so I went to xbar. Another big plus with xbar (for me) is how easily it's accessed without having to pull out the stylus.

The first day i installed magic button it worked perfect. after letting the phone sleep all night it's gone crazy. All kinds fo freezing. Mine seems to have something to do with magic button being installed on the sdcard instead of in the main memory because it keeps telling me at startup that it can find the require files, even though it's running.
So i diabled autostart and tried just manually starting when i boot up and have had fewer problems. But still problems none the less.
I really don't like the fact that the close button is only set to either-or. It would be nice if we had a close button AND a minimize / put program in background button.
is there any program like this? I wonder how hard it would be to modify the source to do that.

Try the Cyberon voice speed dail, you can close a programm by speech. is on de MDA vario. no los off extra memory and no problems.

Magic Button
I have not experienced any problems at all with Magic Button and have found it to be the best Task Manager for closing running programs, and I also like the fact thast you get an 'active' decktop.
One thing I have noticed since I started running the new o2 ROM is that the Phone icon is ever-present, whereas on the previous ROM it did not stay on the screen permanently. Generally impressed by the speed of the new ROM, but not having any major problems with Magic Button.

I must be the only one who DOESNT have a problem with MB, I've had it since I got my HTC Apache without a hitch I installed it on the main memory and it seems to work quite well with allowing me to keep certain apps alive i.e. phone app, agile, etc.
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automatically cloasing apps when exiting (like treo's palm)

Is there an app that can close selected apps when they are not being used, one thing I don't like is apps running in the background the having to go to the app just to close it with magic button or the right hard key.
on the treo apps close as soon as they are not on the screen.
thank you
Download this freeware...
http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/inclosemobileexpressedition.shtml
whats wrong with magic button? it closes apps rarather minimise when you press top right button and you can close all runnings apps with ease. what else do you want it do do?
that said, i am actually looking for an alternative myself. although i love it, i do find that it tends to crash out pretty often. i am constantly restarting it. anyone else finding this?
i find that magic button will work fine until... you show the phone screen. it can't seem to close it correctly. it flicks it on an off several times and generally goes bonkers.
For a very minimal look, try VJOkButt.
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Phone/Magic button crashing

I'm using all the default ROMs from O2 on my Exec, I have the normal phone app. etc. - I've also got Magic Button installed because SPB Pocketplus's close button isn't working properly (it's just minimising).
Anyhow, when I make a call on the phone then try to close it it will not close. I can't seem to close it in System>memory>running programs because it doesn't appear and I end up having to reset my phone.
Can anyone think why this is happening? Do let me know if I've missed out any important details.
Closing phone app is not recommanded... You have to use another task manager which propose you to dissimulate the icon in the task bar. I tried a lot and Pocket plus, Wisbar lite, Handy Switcher and many more propose this option.
In fact, if you close phone application, you'll create problems with the connection to the mobile network. The only moment you can do that is for having more memory for an application and when you have activated flight mode. At that time, it's a good idea to close phone app. It's what I do. And to avoid a softreset to do that, you can use the vijay555 (the Great Vijay) app called PhoneToggle which really close it without softreset.
The phone application never actually `closes`.It just stays running in the background.
just press the red phone to return to the today screen.
Trying to close it with any task manager (espacially magic button for some reason) usually results in the Exec crashing.
Good task managers such as Wisbar Advance,ignore the phone app and leave it running in the background when you select `close all programs`,this stops the device freezing.
I`ve used Wisbar for years,and it really is THE best task manager available.
I tried using the red phone button but it does the same thing, at least after I've tried using the normal close button. Also, this never happened when SPB Pocketplus's close button was closing properly.
I can't use wisbar because I really don't like the skin features...
Does the phone icon show up next to the startbutton? If it does, tap and hold your stylus on it, it will show options. You can select an ignore option, this will hide the phone icon and stop magicbutton trying to close it.
RE
Try vBar. It doesn't close the phone application :lol:
BUT
it closes Pocket Hack Master :x
Going to try vBar - thanks for the suggestion.
vBar crashes the same as magic button when you try to close `all` programs.
You're right
I've been living with this accursed bug for a year.
It's why I need to reboot every cople of days - the more frequently depending on if you use the phone a lot.samewith the programs screen you can't close it or get back to today screen.
bloody thing! when is PPC vista coming out ;-)
RE
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"vBar crashes the same as magic button when you try to close `all` programs."
Doesn't happen to my QTEK 9000
Because you obviously have somehow configured vBar to ignore the phone application.
SPB Pocket Plus is programmed to minimise instead of close certain apps like ActiveSync and the Phone app, and not to display these apps in the ALT+TAB feature.
This is because you shouldn't really close either of those apps, they are needed for correct functioning of the device!
Try SPB Pocket Plus again and bind a key to the ALT+TAB feature, I think you will like that as you see the Phone app and ActiveSync no longer "get in your way" - I love it (just like Windows XP)
RE
Sorry, you're right that vBar indeed crashes the system BUT only when connected in ActiveSync state. If not AS then it behaves alright.
BTW, vBar does not have an 'EXCLUDED' list or something like that
Just tried InClose Mobile and finds that using IntelliClose it does not close Pocket Hack Master. Others like 'CLOSE ALL' and 'CLOSE ALL BUT ACTIVE' will close Pocket Hack Master. This is explained in the manual
:lol:

Problem with Magic Button

Great little app, but I constantly find I can't close the last open application to get back to my Today screen - and if I go Start > Today, nothing happens - it seems as if the XDA *thinks* it's at the Today screen already, but my last open app (usually Phone) is still on screen, an no matter how often I clikc the little Magic Button X, it won't go away.
This only usually happens when I have a single app open, if I have 2 or more they close fine with Magic Button, right down till the last 1, then this problem starts.
Even more annoying because if I can't get to Home, I can;t lock the device.
I have a complaint about Magic Button also. On my wizard, it opened the phone menu everytime I close the window of Settings. The other annoying thing is that the X did not blend in with my theme colors. It's always a different color and looks very odd.
So what I did was uninstalled magic button and have started to use InClose program. It is MUCH better.
IMO, Magic button is crap. I dont know why people recommend it so much. Well ok, it might just be that it does not get on with the wizard.
It kept crashing for me, so i started using InClose. Brilliant freeware app and has been working perfectly for a few months now. Get it.
Zero problems with Magic Button here. Been running it for a while now
Magic Button was unacceptable to me on my Blue Angel and it's been no better for me on my Wizard. Personally I prefer wclose or smclose (which I believe are pretty much the same program) in conjunction with Smartskey.
Just my two cents worth!
I had the same problem with magic Button. After closing all the applications, the phone application would maximize. (you aren't allowed to actually close the phone application.) So with the phone application maximized, and no way to minimize it. It would get stuck on the top of the screen for me as well. I dont like in close either. It crashed alot on my system. Just use smartskey. It works great.
Hi, I had same problem with magic button and changed it to vbar (http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/vbar.shtml). It's nice program with one bug - the X/ok button have blue bacground no matter what theme and color you have.
For vBar you can select your own BMP picture.. ..works like a charm!
I've been using MagicButton for a long time now, and I didn't have any problem with it on my Wizard or Prophet.
Solved it, InClose was the answer, great app, thanks all!

can't get back to todayscreen without a soft reset

anyone know what would cause this and how to fix it? REALLY annoying. The only things on my today screen are spb whether and tomtom. Nothing exotic. Any ideas?
spb "whether" sounds pretty exotic, where'd you get it from? i only have spb weather... sorry just messing with you ;D
umm.. what do you mean you can't get back to the today screen, are you trying to say nothings loading on it? or apps won't close? Maybe you have to many programs running and they're eating up your memory. Get SPB Pocket Plus or Magic Button and see if that helps.
i have magic button. What i mean is that i can't seem to close apps and get back to the todayscreen. the apps just won't close for some reason.
Try InClose Mobile instead of Magic Button - much better
I have the same problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=275030
But I haven't found a solution for this .....
Remove the plugins one by one.. and determine which one is the one causing the problem.
I'm my case the problem is not related to a today-plugin.
It's just that for some reason it is possible to 'close' the todayscreen when tapping in the right-top corner.
Sometimes it DOES do that and sometimes it WON'T, but I can't figure out the conditions.
Today visible
Is the problem that if you close apps, you see the word Today in the upper left, but the most recently viewed app still shows as the body?
I had this problem, and now don't; I think moving to 2.26 ROM fixed it, but it could have been the rebuilding associated with moving to 2.26 (which cleaned out leftovers from uninstalled apps). In any case, a workaround was to open calendar and close it, which would bring back Today.
Your workaround didn't work for me.
Additional note: when the problem occurs, it always shows me my phone-screen or call-list instead of the todayscreen.
When I select 'today' using the start-button in the top-left corner nothing happens.
Any other application form the start-menu does work fine.

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Hi so this is what frequently happens, I lose the top bar on the screen (start icons etc) which needs a restart to get back, sometimes the screen will not go black when the power putton is pressed(for locking), holding the end call button to lock the phone dosent work at all even after restart(not that i use it), also the email icons where you flick down and up to get a preview often dosent work and the email opens instead(happend from the start).
So what i would like to know is what can i do about this I assume there is a new rom out there that is really nice and stable but which do you suggest? I would like one which replaces the alarm setting in the default rom as that is so annoying. Also I use the youtube program all the time and I would like to still have the zoom bar in opera. your advice is really appreciated.
Im getting some of these problems, sorry dont know what to sugest! but my end key has never locked my phone it ends data conection ok !!??
Paul.
Have you tried a hard reset?
There are many great roms each Rom has a thread you can check them out to see what they have and what they can do it depends on your preferences not others

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