seemingly dead Hermes.. help :( - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Hey all, I've searched the forum and not found much at all..
I have no idea why this happened but my Hermes won't turn on at all, power button has no effect whatsoever and when I try to charge it I get the red light of death..
I put it down on my desk with ~80% battery last night and when I went to check for messages (by watching the service LED for a few seconds) in the morning the LED wasn't flashing so I tried waking it up and it was dead.
Plugged it into the charger, RLoD.. what the ****?
Anyone have any idea what could have gone wrong?

Usually caused by something that causes the battery to drain below 10%. Then you can get the RLOD. The charging circuit gets locked up and won't allow the device to charge. A pesky problem, but at least you have the RLOD, if you didn't then it could be the motherboard fuse.
So some things to try, non of them guaranteed and sometimes it works after trying these things several times over:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1077622&postcount=6
Mike

I have put my battery in my friend's Hermes and it says its 100% charged, I have put his battery in my Hermes and it still won't boot..
It's really weird.. BTW already tried your RLoD fixes, none worked.
I really hope I can fix it, I keep trying to slide open the non-existent qwerty keyboard on my Magician and it's frustrating using an OSK :S

aaron11193 said:
I have put my battery in my friend's Hermes and it says its 100% charged, I have put his battery in my Hermes and it still won't boot..
It's really weird.. BTW already tried your RLoD fixes, none worked.
I really hope I can fix it, I keep trying to slide open the non-existent qwerty keyboard on my Magician and it's frustrating using an OSK :S
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Other than hard reset (don't think you mentioned doing that) I have only one other suggestion and that is the battery contacts. Hopefully not fractured between the pins and motherboard, but worth a try at cleaning the contacts and pushing the battery against the contacts.
If that doesn't work then I fear a motherboard fault.
Mike

Ok well for some reason my Hermes decided to boot up this morning after sitting on my desk for a night..
Weird stuff..

aaron11193 said:
Ok well for some reason my Hermes decided to boot up this morning after sitting on my desk for a night..
Weird stuff..
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It is strange. Sometimes charges can build up within capacitors in a circuit and the "logic" can be disrupted. This is why sometimes it's a good idea with some faults to leave the battery out for a while to clear any such charges. However in your case with all the battery swapping and so on, I am a little sceptical that this was the cause.
If it happens again, I'd certainly be looking for a fault between battery connectors and the battery or between the connectors and the motherboard.
Let's hope that's it cured however
Mike

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Oh noes. I think i have a paperweight :(

Hi guys.
Well, a month or two back i updated my imate kjam to WM6 and absolutely love it. Haven't had a single problem up until now.
Last week i did a soft reset on the phone (after installing phonealarm) and it stuck on the wm6 logo boot screen. tried a number of resets, removing the battery etc. finally had to do a hard reset and reinstall everything.
last night a similar thing happened. the phone had turned itself off in my pocket. so i tried a soft reset and got no luck. tried to do a hard reset, got to the screen where you confirm the reset but decided i'd try a few more things before committing to losing everything again.
now i can't do a thing with it. can't even get to the hard reset menu.
i've tried leaving the battery out overnight, tried resetting whilst it's plugged into the charger, everything i can think of. isn't recognised when plugged into the usb port either.
i'm at a total loss. any help / tips would be greatly appreciated, i'd hate to lose everything on my pda, as i used this thing constantly
one weird thing is that when plugged into the charger, i don't see a LED light up to say it's charging??
mkerr said:
Hi guys.
Well, a month or two back i updated my imate kjam to WM6 and absolutely love it. Haven't had a single problem up until now.
Last week i did a soft reset on the phone (after installing phonealarm) and it stuck on the wm6 logo boot screen. tried a number of resets, removing the battery etc. finally had to do a hard reset and reinstall everything.
last night a similar thing happened. the phone had turned itself off in my pocket. so i tried a soft reset and got no luck. tried to do a hard reset, got to the screen where you confirm the reset but decided i'd try a few more things before committing to losing everything again.
now i can't do a thing with it. can't even get to the hard reset menu.
i've tried leaving the battery out overnight, tried resetting whilst it's plugged into the charger, everything i can think of. isn't recognised when plugged into the usb port either.
i'm at a total loss. any help / tips would be greatly appreciated, i'd hate to lose everything on my pda, as i used this thing constantly
one weird thing is that when plugged into the charger, i don't see a LED light up to say it's charging??
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Is it possible that your battery may be flat?
Can you get into bootloader mode?
can't get into bootloader.
if my battery was flat, would the charging LED light up when it was plugged in?
thanks for the reply.
afer doing some more reading, it looks like it might just well be a dead battery.
apparently, wizard / kjam batteries are notorious for requiring the wall charger to get them going again once they're flat. something about needing 1000ma.
i just checked my charger that came with the unit (ebay), and noticed it only put out 850ma. going to grab my brother's jasjam charger and hope to hell it's 5v 1000ma.
fingers crossed.
i had a similar problem, and following a solution on ere somewhere i fixed it, this is done at ur own risk, im nt responsible. unplug the charger from the wall, still plugged into fone(this is to empty charger of any charge thats there) thn unplug fone and dip the end of the lead in water(yes sounds weird i no...) then make sure theres nt an excess on the end and plug into wizard adn thn the wall, should be red light and then after a few mins orange - charging hope it works
hehe
just letting everyone know it's now working again
didn't need to do any water dipping.
just plugged in brother's 5v 1000ma charger and it's now charging
OMG !! Good Goooooooshhhh
evilkern said:
i had a similar problem, and following a solution on ere somewhere i fixed it, this is done at ur own risk, im nt responsible. unplug the charger from the wall, still plugged into fone(this is to empty charger of any charge thats there) thn unplug fone and dip the end of the lead in water(yes sounds weird i no...) then make sure theres nt an excess on the end and plug into wizard adn thn the wall, should be red light and then after a few mins orange - charging hope it works
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hi
hope ur serious about ur method,well sry to say....... never heard of such a method before, I'm not making any fun of u or plz don't take me wrong , I don't mean any harm.
I just can't believe it cud happen like that,after all water dip will certainly short circuit and burn it.
well, just for my knowledge, have u ever tried this urself ?
zabardast_1 said:
hi
hope ur serious about ur method,well sry to say....... never heard of such a method before, I'm not making any fun of u or plz don't take me wrong , I don't mean any harm.
I just can't believe it cud happen like that,after all water dip will certainly short circuit and burn it.
well, just for my knowledge, have u ever tried this urself ?
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I thought exactly the same when i read it first, but since my phone wasnt turning on, gave it a go and it worked! As i say sounds odd but apparently its somthing to do with the circuits controlling the charge, if theres not enough power then obviously they wont work, so this way does...sounds odd but works! I just had a quick search and cant find the original thread, it was an alternative to the 9 volt battery solution
evilkern said:
I thought exactly the same when i read it first, but since my phone wasnt turning on, gave it a go and it worked! As i say sounds odd but apparently its something to do with the circuits controlling the charge, if theres not enough power then obviously they wont work, so this way does...sounds odd but works! I just had a quick search and cant find the original thread, it was an alternative to the 9 volt battery solution
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well than I must say u got a brave heart,If had that choice ,i wud have thought 10 times and still said No
As u said that u had gone for it and did and were successful,do believe u now. In that case its very valuable information thanks
So your saying to dip the end of the charger plug into water?? It sounds like really all you would be doing is cleaning off the terminals of dust or debris that could be impeding a connection of some sort.

8525 Died overnight

My 8525 died last night while just idling. Won't power on, no LED's, nothing. Originally I figured the battery just died, but it won't take a charge either (tried several chargers).
I've tried taking the battery, sim, and memory card out. Plugging it in without a battery and then putting the battery back in. No luck. I've let it sit, plugged in, no luck.
Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks,
-Jim
---Update
Well, I pulled the phone apart today, and found a loose screw from the keyboard slide mechanism floating around in it. My assumption is that what ever problem I am having right now was caused by this.
Still no luck with powering it up, tried another batter and no luck.
Any other suggestions?
perhaps it's the problem of battery !try another one.however,if it doesn't work. i think you'd better had it mended for there may be something bad in hardware.
looks like my problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359017
djan84 said:
looks like my problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359017
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Not really, but thanks for the input. My phone won't turn on or even attempt to charge the battery. I have also tried a second battery with the same results. My assumption is that the screw damaged a surface mount connection.

Hermes says it's charging when it's not

For the last few weeks, my herm has been randomly displaying the charging icon both in the tray area and s2u2, when it's actually running on battery. i've noticed the battery life has started shrinking a lot, going down to one day and a half tops, on 3g with a new battery. has anyone had this problem? could you please help? i've searched the forums and haven't found anything
Don't think I've seen this problem before. Typically folk will suggest a hard reset. You can try that although I'm not so sure it's a software issue.
I would check that all the battery connector contacts are clean and contacting the battery well. I would also ensure that the USB connector has no bent contacts or any contaminants in it. I suggest these things because it's almost as if the device is detecting falsely that a usb cable is inserted.
Mike
I'm pretty sure it's hardware related, because i've done hard-resets and rom changes, and the same thing happens. but usually it happens when the phone is in stand-by. when i turn it on, it says it's charging for a few seconds, then shows the battery as it should
hostedrage said:
I'm pretty sure it's hardware related, because i've done hard-resets and rom changes, and the same thing happens. but usually it happens when the phone is in stand-by. when i turn it on, it says it's charging for a few seconds, then shows the battery as it should
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Mmm that though just sounds like a bit of lag.
Mike
so that means it's not actually discharging my battery faster? thank you for your answers, Mike
mine does it too, its just a bug with the hardware i think. usually mine shows charging after i turn the screen back on then after 5 secs or so changes to normal battery indicator.

Hermes battery drains, Hermes won't charge, get brand new battery, still the same :O

Hello,
I'm sure my Hermes is not dead, I'm just having ridicious battery problems.
My battery completely drained out, I saw the screen fade out and kind of "die" as it happened. I then couldn't even charge the Hermes up, so it seems the battery just ran out of juice period. I googled around and it seemed the only way to revive the battery again is doing some complicated wiry thing with alkaline batteries.
But instead of that I just bought a new replacement battery. But it still won't charge! Does this mean my Hermes actually did die? The battery WAS extremely low so I'm certain that it was the battery. The phone can't just die like that.
Thank you so much for your help. N.B. the phone LED won't even give a red light when plugged in without battery in. I hope that's not a bad sign...
Hey there just a guess but I had a simular problem in the past and it seemed to be due to a defective camera part draining power. Only way I was able to fix it was to remove the camera part and then put it back together.
If the red LED doesn't come on when you connect to the power without the battery then your Hermes is dead, good only for parts.... If the LED does light up, connect the battery and see if it turns amber(orangey) that means its charging.
It could be the internal fuse blew. Might be replaceable but could be costly....
Yes, after reading that other people could usually still see a red LED without the battery, I gave up.
Sigh...well at least I got to see my Hermes die...the screen gradually fading away in front of me....sniff.... I will miss it dearly.
- - -
But life moves on and hey hey hey I'm the proud owner of a new Blackstone! I just wasn't ready to upgrade yet...I wanted to wait until a capacitive screened successor to the Touch HD came out...sigh
But I suppose deaths of family and friends don't happen when you're ready for them
Goodbye my Hermes
eyupwolf said:
Hey there just a guess but I had a simular problem in the past and it seemed to be due to a defective camera part draining power. Only way I was able to fix it was to remove the camera part and then put it back together.
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Dear eyupwolf, I have similar problems.
Camera just works some times, but after that it can not be initialised again and drains my battery out. So I don't use it anyway (since 99% times tried it didn't work). If I do, I have to reset Hermes many times to set things up.
Can you describe the procedure how you fixed (removed) that problem?
Thank you,
F
battery wont charge
I got the same problems with the Hermes 200. I tired the 3 AAA battries in serial connection but it didn't help.
I even tried to cool the battery for 30 mins in the freezer (an old trick to squeeze the last little bit from the battery) the phone turned on for about 10 seconds but the os never loaded up. the phone shows red when connected to usb without a battery but led turns off when battery is insterted.
I ordered a battery on ebay, but until it arrives does anyone have any other suggestions?
thanks
Scuter
PS. It had Olipro 2.10 spl and recently installed the amazing golden globe v9 rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458456
which is amazing.

HD2 dead?

Hello,
please help me with an advice: since today afternoon, my HD2 (European type) looks dead... I have an Android NAND ROM (with sense, I think from CM7 series, but I don't remember anymore, cause it worked perfectly since a few months). Suddendly, as I wanted to recharge the battery today afternoon, I've observed that the LED indicating the charging is not on! As I've tried to turn it on (wake up), nothing happened, black screen, no LED, no buttons light. I have put out the battery and back in, tried a reset (red small button near the battery), but it simply don't want to turn on! I have checked the charger with another HD2 from a friend and the charger is ok... What can I do about it? I have really no idea what's going on , cause there is no reason for such a behaviour (like bad flashing trial or similar).
Thank you in advance for every help!
Conrad
...nobody?
I want to add that if I connect it with my pc through the usb cable, nothing happens as well... and my pc won't recognize it (no reaction at all)...
Please, nobody else had such problems?
Your friend has hd2? Try their battery, if it works your battery is flat (can't charge when off when magldr installed)
If the other battery doesn't work check battery pins carefully.
Thanks for your reply, samsamuel.
I have already tried to use other battery, but it doesn't change anything. What do you mean with "checking pins"? The battery contacts, on the battery and on phone are looking very good (the phone is only about 7 months old)...
Sometimes one of the three little pegs on the phone that the battery presses against gets bent.
What about your battery in friends phone?
Other than flat battery or bent pins I can't think of anything else except something serious blew on the mainboard.
The battery works well in my friend's phone (has about 48% capacity). I have also tried his battery in my phone, with no success.
How can occure such a major hardware problem, without any reason?
Sorry, no clue. Random hardware failure? Crash causing hang and overheat? Someone messing with it whilst out of the room? Power surge? Got warranty?

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