Why don't ROMS work on a Rogers Dream - G1 General

I've rooted my Rogers HTC Dream and tried multiple Roms ... none seem to work.
They all hang at the Rogers logo. At this point all i can do is flash the boot and system images back to the stock ROM.
Why is that isn't the hardware all the same? What makes the rogers dream different?

This has been discussed countless of times, please use the search function in the future .
We don't know exactly why other roms do not boot on the device but we suspect it might have something to do with the kernel. We are currently trying to have more info from HTC/Rogers about this issue.

First of all, none of the roms out there right now will work. The boot offsets for Rogers are just different. Roms would need to be specifically edited for the Rogers Dream at the very least.
Cyanogen has attempted to build a rom for it. But it didn't work out.
cyanogen said:
There is something funky with the kernel shipped on those devices. We will figure it out
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Thanks for the reply ... much appreciated.
Maybe a quick sticky would help all us Rogers Dream noobs that come here looking for a Roms after rooting our phones.
thanks again for the quick reply ...

Some roms will work, if a rom uses the original Rogers Kernel and you change the boot.img to Haykuro's one it will work. But there are very very few roms that would work like this.
I am currently running Rogers Ramjet but I think I'd rather have the stock one, some things don't work too well on it.

Oh, that's interesting. I haven't considered the idea. I'll try it out later.

soon...
I noticed on Haykuro's twitter page that we'll soon be able to flash roms...
http://twitter.com/haykuro/statuses/3113111183
"rogers peeps: you may be able to flash all sorts of craziness soon"

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Rooting Rogers HTC Dream

Hello,
Is it possible to root the HTC Dream from rogers yet? I just purchased one yesterday and I am not sure if the procedure is the same as for the T-Mobile G1.
Thanks
I too would like more information on this. Thanks in advance.
Dream...
I believe the Dream and the G1 are actually the same devices. So what you can do to one, should also apply to the other.
I am curious to try the G1 procedure, but I am wondering a few things... Biggest thing is if rogers would be using the same key to sign the updates? and second is if downgrading to rc29 would brick my phone.
I wouldn't use the DREAIMG.NBH rooting procedure on the Rogers Dream. If I recall correctly, it includes a radio image (please correct me if I'm wrong). If that's the case, you wouldn't want to try to flash the radio from the G1 to your Rogers version that uses different frequencies.
I would venture a guess that the method Haykuro used to root the Sapphire would work, and should be safe to try even if it doesn't. Go here:
http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting
I got that from a post in the Sapphire forum here on XDA Developers.
The key is to flash the recovery image with the rooted recovery image. I don't know what difference there may be between the magic and dream recovery images - you may want to grab the modified recovery image specifically for the dream and use it instead of the one on the wiki page.
Wish I had a Rogers Dream so I could try it. If any of you with this handset try it, post the result here!
silverchris said:
I am curious to try the G1 procedure, but I am wondering a few things... Biggest thing is if rogers would be using the same key to sign the updates? and second is if downgrading to rc29 would brick my phone.
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I'm wondering this too. I'm not new to flashing devices etc but THIS is all new to me lol ... I found more info on This page that also explains about the radio however, I'm not sure what all applies or how things change with the Rogers phone. The more I read the more confused I get. One site said follow the link above and you wont have any problems, another said dont follow the site in order but do the radio first then flash the SPL.
Can someone please confirm the steps required to root the Rogers phone and then flash haykuro's ROgers ROM please? I just dont want to brick my device if at all possible (not that anyone really wants to brick their phones).
THanks guys!!
I am going to see if I can boot any of the recovery images without flashing them. I read in a thread thats possible....
None of the recovery images I've tried will boot on my device, Haykuro told me he's working on a solution with dream_kill to root this device.
So it can't be rooted yet?
Awwww I was hoping to put hero on
evilpig said:
Awwww I was hoping to put hero on
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ya we must be patient.
i don't do that so well
the waiting game
I will be waiting as well. Though as soon as the US rooting procedure failed for me, I felt like Rogers had just bent me over and shoved a big rusty sand covered......you get the idea. Was it not enough to put Rogers logos all over the phone, but you had to take away our rooting ability's as well? How sad. But I like the phone too much to take it back Oh well, wait and hope for the best
All you guys (and girls) working on this, you totally rock!
Well, guess we're all in the same boat. I have been reading some of the other threads though, seems like maxawesome, has the Rogers Dream version, and had success rooting and flashing a few days ago, maybe he could share? Looks as though he is the first and possibly only to get root so far for rogers. I tried sending a pm to him, but not sure it went through. You should try, he has some posts in the "rogers rom" thread, just doesn't indicate which SPL version he ended up using.
I'm in the same boat as everyone else. Lets just hope we get to rooting our phones soon!
Just a suggestion: Perhaps you Canadians can try the goldcard method used for non-US/UK Dreams described in the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485364
EDIT: Sorry, I forgot that the updated SPL may cause bricking when the older radio is used. Please disregard this post!
Wasn't it just the haykuro modified spl that caused bricking? Of course, there is more to the radio on this device, even if it doesn't brick it, may result in a non-functional radio (until the correct radio is put back).
Work in progress
I see haykuro is working on it here
More waiting and searching.
Any other updates on where haykuro (or anyone else working on this) is at?
i think haykuro is looking for a device but its still hard to find in USA.
hrmmm ... wonder if we can put a call out and some extremely generous Canadian can send one to him ... seriously if I had a way to get my hand on another one without having to fork out $700 I'd totally contribute a phone

Any ROMs that work on a rooted Rogers Dream?

I have looked throughout the multiple forums and can't find anything. I have rooted thanks to the tutorial and I'd really like to try out Hero.
If anyone knows that'd be cool.
I'm also wondering.. I rooted my phone last night...
Patiently hoping...
sadly nothing as of yet. We'll have to be patient a little longer I guess.
Some devs are working hard to make something boot on this device. Let's support them the best we can.
hellfenix said:
Some devs are working hard to make something boot on this device. Let's support them the best we can.
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which devs?
my friend got a rom working on his rogers magic. im really jealous.
He used this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4047014&postcount=18
This may help. Stumbled across it today, seems there has been a lot of Development done in the last week or two.
http://www.simonwalkerphotos.com/android/android_build_information.asp
Anyone make any progress on this?
wondering same thing
OsirisAD said:
This may help. Stumbled across it today, seems there has been a lot of Development done in the last week or two.
http://www.simonwalkerphotos.com/android/android_build_information.asp
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I attempted to flash my dream with TheDudesRogersTheme Rom and it was unsuccessful... However, something odd happened while trying to go back to H's root. I forgot to clear the system data and after installing H's root update on my dream, I rebooted fastboot and when the phone to the boot screen it was completely different (different boot chime and this time the Android (Chip I believe his name to be) popped up as well) and the Rom actually loaded. However... when I went through the setup wizard everytime it went to sync it would force close and leave me with a blank screen. I was able to get my phone back using nandroid, but I just thought this was very strange and wanted to pass it on to all of you and see if anyone has had anything similar happen.
I appologize if my terms or phrasing are incorrect. I am very much a noob to all of this, and I am certainly in no way a dev.
Thanks for all your hard work, it is certainly appreciated. Hopefully a stable Rom is up and running soon!
I am sorry that I didn't give an exact link to that Rom, I am not sure how to do that...
Also, just giving the dev that created that Rom props... TheDudeOfLife, sorry if I misspelled that.
same thing happened to me .. i flashed using TheDudes ROM and it got stuck on the Rogers screen I then recovered boot ans system img and it seems like some of the ROM remained ... i'm not sure how much of it did.
Haykuro's almost there..
Noticed Haykuro's twitter page today... Can't wait!!
http://twitter.com/haykuro/statuses/3113111183
"rogers peeps: you may be able to flash all sorts of craziness soon"
that's a good news!

Anyone with a Root Solution for Rogers HTC Magic? (new update)

This post for anyone who knows how to root the new updated Rogers HTC Magic with the new:
32A
HBoot - 1.76.0010
Radio - 6.35.10.18
Please post any comments or suggestions if they are applicable.
Thank you.
Rogers HTC Magic (32A)
HBoot - 1.76.0010
Radio - 6.35.10.18
I'm in the same boat. Updated my phone with the Rogers updater, and 1.76.0010 seems to be a perfected SPL. I'm going to attempt the gold card method once I get the necessary hardware this weekend. I'm just concerned I might brick my phone, since all the gold card tutorials are pretty old...
+1
Any results?
Diddo, same problem. Tried the "One Click Root", no joy.
I thought that the data connection issue was b/c of the new radio so I foolishly listened to Rogers. Last time I make that mistake.
I am also in dire ned of a method to root this, or even reverse Rogers....
Maybe try the full version of the Relenless Rooter plus (the one for perfected SPL) software? It seems that 1.76.0010 is a perfect SPL.
Thankfully, I read all over the web and decided not to use the security patch that Rogers suggested and did not update. I kept the 1.33.0009 SPL and was able to use the normal Relenless Rooter software. Don't know it the full software will work for the 1.76.0010 SPL but why don't give it a try.
i'm pretty sure it has already been tried, and doesn't work
i too, am in the same boat
rogers kind of bullied us into this update, and i feel really stupid for falling for it.
i hope someone is working on a fix, tho i am yet to read one post saying that someone is.
Not to be mean or rude or a troll, but there were several warnings against updating with the official RUU.
In fact the "Rogers Mandatory Update Thread" many people mentioned many times to just wait till it was rooted then flash the rooted ROM.
But some people had to be hasty...
Taknarosh said:
Not to be mean or rude or a troll, but there were several warnings against updating with the official RUU.
In fact the "Rogers Mandatory Update Thread" many people mentioned many times to just wait till it was rooted then flash the rooted ROM.
But some people had to be hasty...
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Yes and no. What do you expect when Rogers cut off your data if you don't update. If you went to Android forums or here, you'll find what kind of saga people with rooted phones went in order to obtain data back.
So, at that time, people with the original cupcake had three choices: Root the phone and go through curse droid's complicated process to get his rom, root and find another Rom + patch so as to trick Rogers into believing that the phone has been updated, or just go ahead and flash the official rom (and then hope someone can root it).
visitador02 said:
Yes and no. What do you expect when Rogers cut off your data if you don't update. If you went to Android forums or here, you'll find what kind of saga people with rooted phones went in order to obtain data back.
So, at that time, people with the original cupcake had three choices: Root the phone and go through curse droid's complicated process to get his rom, root and find another Rom + patch so as to trick Rogers into believing that the phone has been updated, or just go ahead and flash the official rom (and then hope someone can root it).
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Complicated procedure? You are mixing up two methods that made it possible to keep root. For cursor, all u needed to do was flash spl and radio, then his Rom, that's it. There is another method that allows u to keep original radio and. Spl, this one uses a script after applying a new rom. Just giving the facts, I do feel sorry for those that jumped the gun though, i was really close myself
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Yes and no. What do you expect when Rogers cut off your data if you don't update. If you went to Android forums or here, you'll find what kind of saga people with rooted phones went in order to obtain data back.
So, at that time, people with the original cupcake had three choices: Root the phone and go through curse droid's complicated process to get his rom, root and find another Rom + patch so as to trick Rogers into believing that the phone has been updated, or just go ahead and flash the official rom (and then hope someone can root it).
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Rogers cut off my data. I rooted phone and applied CursorSense ROM and now i'm good.
I would be happy to help any Roger customers who want to apply this ROM. The steps are pretty straight forward as long as you have some computer knowledge.
how do you root your phone after it has been updated? or how do you undo the update to root it? any help would be appreciated
crystalbellaboo said:
how do you root your phone after it has been updated? or how do you undo the update to root it? any help would be appreciated
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That's the reason for this thread. The update includes a new radio and no developer have found a way around it. Maybe the main developers (aka chefs) have moved on to newer and more exciting devices, like the Nexus One.
Who knows, maybe you guys can band together and pay a developer to do this?
visitador02 said:
That's the reason for this thread. The update includes a new radio and no developer have found a way around it. Maybe the main developers (aka chefs) have moved on to newer and more exciting devices, like the Nexus One.
Who knows, maybe you guys can band together and pay a developer to do this?
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It's the SPL that's perfected. Not the radio. And most devs for the 32A are still here. It's mostly G1/Dream devs namely Cyanogen who have moved on to the Nexus One.
Amon_RA is still giving updates to the G1/Dream and MT3G/Magic and Hero.
crystalbellaboo said:
how do you root your phone after it has been updated? or how do you undo the update to root it? any help would be appreciated
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I didn't update my phone. I didn't realise that this was a problem. Sorry to get your hopes up.
Taknarosh said:
It's the SPL that's perfected. Not the radio. And most devs for the 32A are still here. It's mostly G1/Dream devs namely Cyanogen who have moved on to the Nexus One.
Amon_RA is still giving updates to the G1/Dream and MT3G/Magic and Hero.
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You are right about the SPL. I meant that too. I mixed Radio and SPL because Rogers is scanning for the new radio even for those who have root, as the developers page show.
Anyway, best of luck to those who upgraded and got the perfected SPL. Maybe someone can ask a favor from one of the developers?
Some help with rooting the 32A magic from rogers
Already asked for help via PM, no dice. I suspect that after the update the devs are inundated with requests. I'm happy to pay for someone to figure this out, but don't really know who to approach. Anyone?
So still no luck on anyone rooting this update... This is taking a lot longer then I thought it would. I only did the update because I was sure someone would be willing to jump right on and root this new SPL but no dice.
FoTwoZero said:
So still no luck on anyone rooting this update... This is taking a lot longer then I thought it would. I only did the update because I was sure someone would be willing to jump right on and root this new SPL but no dice.
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I know what you mean... hopefully someone comes through for us.
novadoc said:
I know what you mean... hopefully someone comes through for us.
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If we dont get root within the month then I'm calling Rogers and complaining to them about random misc stuff that I'll make up about the phone to get rid of it and get a new(better) phone.

[Q] Ultra-n00b: what ROM or firmware do I need?

Hi, all.
First timer here. Got the wife a Hero for X-mas. Notice it's slow sometimes, so thought I'd upgrade. It's on 1.5 now. I ultimately want to get on Android 2.1. However, in the phone settings info screen, there is no update option. I thought this might be due to the firmware not being up-to-date so was going to start by upgrading that. But I don't know which ROM to use.
I bought the unlocked phone in Switzerland, but it was clearly imported from the UK. I see on the HTC site there are several ROMs which are carrier specific. There seems to be a generic ROM on the bottom of the HTC page which says "ROM Upgrade for HTC Hero" with no specific carrier. This one looks to be the generic ROM, which I should use. Is that the case?
I've tried looking for a general tutorial, but they all also seem to be tied to carriers (Sprint, T-Mobile, etc).
Cheers.
Hi Bozo,
firstly do not be tempted to update your firmware to the latest one on the HTC web site, if you do that and also update to the HTC 2.1 ROM, you will not be able to ROOT your Hero without firstly downgrading again.
ROOTing your Hero will allow you to go beyond 2.1 to 2.2 ROMs, these are mostly in development at the moment but I've tried several so far and have settled on Android Version Froyd Villain1.6 (2.2.1) which has been great for several weeks with no crashes and plenty quick.
Hope this helps!
There are plenty of web guides on how to ROOT your Hero also Youtube videos.
CobraKev007 said:
Hi Bozo,
if you do that and also update to the HTC 2.1 ROM, you will not be able to ROOT your Hero without firstly downgrading again..
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There are plenty of web guides on how to ROOT your Hero also Youtube videos.
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Thanks for the reply. Is it the firmware that prevents rooting, the ROM, or both?
I've seen several of the videos on rooting. But again, they often reference a specific carrier model Hero, mostly Sprint.
I'd check out this post. Ignore the stuff about updating RADIO though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=827593
Personally I use Cyanogen 6.1.0 with FlyKernel 12a (applying the FlyKernel CM fix first). Then custom tweaking the Cyanogen setup. If you were UK I'd offer to do it for you
takuhii said:
Ignore the stuff about updating RADIO though.
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Another noob question for you.
Why ignore the radio update?
Betty_Swallocks said:
Another noob question for you.
Why ignore the radio update?
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I can't think of any reason to ignore the radio update, it's made a big difference for a lot of people.
CobraKev007 said:
Hi Bozo,
firstly do not be tempted to update your firmware to the latest one on the HTC web site, if you do that and also update to the HTC 2.1 ROM, you will not be able to ROOT your Hero without firstly downgrading again.
ROOTing your Hero will allow you to go beyond 2.1 to 2.2 ROMs, these are mostly in development at the moment but I've tried several so far and have settled on Android Version Froyd Villain1.6 (2.2.1) which has been great for several weeks with no crashes and plenty quick.
Hope this helps!
There are plenty of web guides on how to ROOT your Hero also Youtube videos.
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I was able to root my phone after upgrading to the official 2.1 ROM.
There are many great ROMs to choose from; CM6.1, Froyo 2.2.1 Final (by Elelinux), FroydVillain 1.7.0 My personal preference would be Elelinux's one.
Just go for Feeyo's 2.3 1.0.1 best one ever.
ikmax said:
Just go for Feeyo's 2.3 1.0.1 best one ever.
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I second that!
I am a flash-aholic and have tried nearly all the 2.3 roms. By far the best is cronos 1.0.1 It is uber fast (faster than any 2.1 I have tried) and has a brilliant forum community, with the dev responding quickly to any bugs.
Have fun!
Why shouldn't he update to the official 2.1 Rom? It is said to be rootable with Universalandroot! (see http://blog.23corner.com/2010/08/30/universal-androot-1-6-2-beta-5/#more-407) So getting the official 2.1 would also be a reasonable step towards more speed!
And I don't see a downside of doing so...
Thanks for all the info guys.
Is it possible to brick a Hero when attempting to root it?
Cheers!
HomerJayS said:
Why shouldn't he update to the official 2.1 Rom? It is said to be rootable with Universalandroot! So getting the official 2.1 would also be a reasonable step towards more speed!
And I don't see a downside of doing so...
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That will update his HBoot to 1.76.007 which is a perfected SPL.
awaisj said:
That will update his HBoot to 1.76.007 which is a perfected SPL.
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And what does this exactly mean?
Or in other words: What are the consequences thereof?
Sorry, I'm also just getting into the whole Rooting stuff
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App
it's up to you to decide what rom you want.
you have to test it for yourself, and see if you like it or not.
All we can do is point out some possible candidates

T-Mobile Uk Roms

Hi all, just got an upgrade this week to the Atrix and thoroughly enjoying it so far. As a poweruser with the HD2 and all the hacks involved like android on nand etc, the first thing I did out of the box was root it.
Now to my point, all the custom roms I'm seeing seem to be for At+t and Bell (is that the right carriers?), and the forum is Atrix 4G. So can I as a UK user use these same roms/radios that are outlined in the development forum?
Any help is appreciated, Thanks in advance.
Greetings. I have the same backround as you . I nearly stayed with my hd2 but i'm glad I didn't. The only gingerbread rom for us is the orange one in the dev forum. I have had no success flashing this yet. Soft bricked 3 times and counting.
There is an international fruit cake in the works rich we will be able to flash from CWM.
So far rooting is fine.
Unlockingbootloader is fine.
flashing Cwm if fine.
I keep meaning to start a t-mob uk thread to collect all the info for us uk tmob users into one place. I will get round to it eventualy if some one doesn't beer me to it.
bates_1974 said:
Hi all, just got an upgrade this week to the Atrix and thoroughly enjoying it so far. As a poweruser with the HD2 and all the hacks involved like android on nand etc, the first thing I did out of the box was root it.
Now to my point, all the custom roms I'm seeing seem to be for At+t and Bell (is that the right carriers?), and the forum is Atrix 4G. So can I as a UK user use these same roms/radios that are outlined in the development forum?
Any help is appreciated, Thanks in advance.
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Hi there.
I am on Orange U.K, and i have successfully flashed this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169409. Following this guide to flash the ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1167373.
Many international users have flashed this ROM as well but REMEMBER to unlock your bootloader before even considering flashing this ROM.
When unlocking your bootloader, you will notice that you will only have around 300 total RAM but if you flash the hack relevant to your device, you will retain your RAM when you flash to Gingerbread.
Please follow the guide properly and don't skip any step. BTW, if your bootloader is not unlocked, we will probably be getting Gingerbread soon since the SOAK testing is about to begin very soon.
Similar story, i'm on Orange, followed those steps and it's working great. Just had to replace the missing sound files, but apart from that, works a treat.
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Now since we have an unlocked bootloader, you can flash any ROM. Just make sure you flash the proper boot.img for your phone. See the fixes section for the pudding thread.
IrshaadH said:
Now since we have an unlocked bootloader, you can flash any ROM. Just make sure you flash the proper boot.img for your phone. See the fixes section for the pudding thread.
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I thought we still had to be careful with the Roms, as some of them contain files that are tied to the kernel version (until the port everything over). For example, the ninja rom, I believe it is crrently tied to AT&T at the moment. I presumed we had to wait for a safe INTL version..
I think we can install and lunch any Rom now. The only limitation for inte. users is Ram issue. Otherwise will work fine.
Sent from Motorola Atrix
Foka002 said:
I think we can install and lunch any Rom now. The only limitation for inte. users is Ram issue. Otherwise will work fine.
Sent from Motorola Atrix
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great, thanks. Maybe I'll try another rom then I'd like one without any MotoBlur stuff on it, although the French 2.3.4 is running very well.

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