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What button besides power, to bring OUT of standby?

I'm running Black 3.01, and the only way I can bring the device out of STANDY is with the power button. My KeyLock is set to "Lock buttons if device is locked." The device is NOT locked, just in standby, and the only button that can get it to wake up is a quick-push of the Power-Button.
I thought there was an app that said you could push ANY button to bring it out, but I can't find that on WM6 Black 3.01.
Thanks!

I asked this same question long ago with no real answer, i hate the small power button and its just to hard to find... If the power button could be relocated to the PTT that would make this phone awesome...

mitchg said:
I'm running Black 3.01, and the only way I can bring the device out of STANDY is with the power button. My KeyLock is set to "Lock buttons if device is locked." The device is NOT locked, just in standby, and the only button that can get it to wake up is a quick-push of the Power-Button.
I thought there was an app that said you could push ANY button to bring it out, but I can't find that on WM6 Black 3.01.
Thanks!
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Start>Settings>System>Key Lock
Select "Do not lock buttons"

Hello.
My solution to this problem is to use MortSaver. It can be configured:
one press on (a specified) button sends the phone to standby
two presses on (a specified) button bring the phone back
one press on (a specified) button show the time, missed calls, mms/sms, battery and phone signal
I've assigned it to the upper right (Internet Explorer) button and it does the job well.
Best regards!
jZ

Not sure if this helps, but a friend of mine broke his power button, and now wakes his device up by ejecting and re-inseting his memory card.

Shut Down Cab?

Downloaded and installed the Shut Down Cab on my Wing. The three options are:
1. Light Off
2. Shut Down (Does not Power Off, only turns off screen?)
3. Soft Reset
My question is: Should Shut Down turn the Power Off? If not, what is the purpose of this compare to Light Off?
Thanks

Press any key if you press Lights off. You'll see that your phone is still on but just with the lights off.
Shutdown is like when you press your power button on the top.
Soft reset, well... speaks for itself.

ElProempie said:
Press any key if you press Lights off. You'll see that your phone is still on but just with the lights off.
Shutdown is like when you press your power button on the top.
Soft reset, well... speaks for itself.
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Thank you. Apparently Shutdown and Lights off do the same thing for me as I can touch any key after using either one and the phone works as if it were Lights off.
Maybe I don't see the purpose of them as being separate functions.

Check "keyboard lock" (more or less.. my wing rom is in spanish) under configuration - system and make sure it's set to "block all buttons except power button" if not, every button will power on your device after shutdown, making it look like turning the lights on.
Hope works for you.

le_hades said:
Check "keyboard lock" (more or less.. my wing rom is in spanish) under configuration - system and make sure it's set to "block all buttons except power button" if not, every button will power on your device after shutdown, making it look like turning the lights on.
Hope works for you.
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Yes, that is correct. That is why I said that both options are doing the same thing. I would have thought that one would Power Off.
Again, thank you for your input. I do appreciate it.

Power off and Device Lock Reg Edits?

Hello all,
I am new to the forums but I have been using the HTC Touch for a few months now, and would like some guidance about a few problems i'm having. First off, I am using the official 6.1 rom with sprint....
I am running S2U2 and am having a problem with my phone turning off while in my pocket. It seems the power off menu can be brought up if you hold the power button, even if S2U2 is running. This is very frustrating, is there anyway to lock the power button when S2U2 is running, or any other option?
Is there any edits that can be done to make S2U2 call the factory device lock? I couldnt find anything related to the lock in the registry. If there is, is there anyway to assign the factory device lock to the power button, so that when you blank the screen it auto-locks? I love this feature with s2u2, and with stock device lock it takes 3 buttons to do this...
Thanks!

honduh said:
Hello all,
I am new to the forums but I have been using the HTC Touch for a few months now, and would like some guidance about a few problems i'm having. First off, I am using the official 6.1 rom with sprint....
I am running S2U2 and am having a problem with my phone turning off while in my pocket. It seems the power off menu can be brought up if you hold the power button, even if S2U2 is running. This is very frustrating, is there anyway to lock the power button when S2U2 is running, or any other option?
Is there any edits that can be done to make S2U2 call the factory device lock? I couldnt find anything related to the lock in the registry. If there is, is there anyway to assign the factory device lock to the power button, so that when you blank the screen it auto-locks? I love this feature with s2u2, and with stock device lock it takes 3 buttons to do this...
Thanks!
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The only thing that I could suggest that might help is to get yourself a good case for your phone that would protect the button from being accidentally pushed. I have never had this problem with my phone. The button actually has to be pressed and held to bring up the power off menu. Even when not in it's case, I have never had this happen; however, the phone is only out of it's case, when I am using it. In the case, there is even less chance of powering off the device.
Rod.

The default device lock works just like S2U2, as it leaves only the power button unlocked. If you locked all buttons, how would you turn your phone back on??

TheChampJT said:
The default device lock works just like S2U2, as it leaves only the power button unlocked. If you locked all buttons, how would you turn your phone back on??
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The problem i'm having is that the phone actually powers off while in my pocket somehow....what i'm saying is that the phone not only "wakes up" from the standby mode, but also calls the shut down window and you can press the "yes its ok to shut down" button while s2u2 is running, something the stock device lock will not do.
It would be really nice if there was a slide type lock that was based off the code of the stock device lock.
Thanks for the replys

Find what the application is that launches when pressing the button and add it to the S2U exclusions list.
I have a verizon and my power button toggles screen off and on, so im not entirely sure, Is this a stock popup or a program you installed ? There is probably a registry entry somewhere that defines how the power button functions jsut as the button manager does for other buttons.

honduh said:
The problem i'm having is that the phone actually powers off while in my pocket somehow....what i'm saying is that the phone not only "wakes up" from the standby mode, but also calls the shut down window and you can press the "yes its ok to shut down" button while s2u2 is running, something the stock device lock will not do.
It would be really nice if there was a slide type lock that was based off the code of the stock device lock.
Thanks for the replys
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I understand your point, and am still wondering what it is you keep in your pocket with your phone that shuts it off!? Anyways, why do you keep referring back to the default device lock? S2U2 performs the same way, as it locks everything besides the power button. If the power button is locked, how would you wake up the device to unlock it ???

the power button has two functions, it blanks the screen if you press it, or it brings up the power off menu when you long press it. The problem i'm having is s2u2 doesnt prevent the power off menu from coming up, where as the stock device lock does. Thus, it is possible to completely power off the phone while the keys are locked.... of course I want to be able to wake the phone up with the power button, but i dont want to be able to turn it completely off.
And i'm not sure how it turns off in my pocket, except i usually carry it with the power button face down (phone upside down) and it must press against the bottom of my pocket...
The application that it is calling is the stock shut down menu, i'm not sure how I could add this to the exception list, as I dont know how to call it remotely....
Thanks again for the replies!

The title of this caught my attention.
It would be very nice to have a registry edit that will lock the device when powered off or on device wake up.
I use S2U2 and I am really not liking it personally, but it is better then the default setup currently I feel.

Soft reset question

Hi,
I've read on here that you can do a soft reset without taking cover off and pressing the actual reset button, but I can't find it again. I've looked on hints and tips, wiki, and searched. Can anyone help please?
Cheers

You'll be needing the TouchX Reset & Wifi shortcuts then
You can get them off this post...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4947950&postcount=1
It creates 2 shortcuts in your start menu. 1 for resetting, and 1 for toggling wifi. You can then add to your quicklinks, if you so wish.
Hope this helps

You could always switch off + switch on but johncmolyneux suggested works as well, although I used a cab so as when I push the switch off button, I get a new menu with various options, including soft reset.
Forgot which one it is though

Snerkler,
Some good suggestions here. Be aware that these will only work if the device is NOT in the grip of death, as I call it.
If it has died then there's no option but to take the back off and either press the little red button or take the battery out.
WB

The 'out of the box' method, without resorting to additional applications is to press and hold the Power key for 3 seconds.
This opens up a context menu which includes 'Power Off'. This is a full 'power off' state with all background processes stopped. Pressing the power button again restarts the phone as in a soft reset.

NeilM said:
The 'out of the box' method, without resorting to additional applications is to press and hold the Power key for 3 seconds.
This opens up a context menu which includes 'Power Off'. This is a full 'power off' state with all background processes stopped. Pressing the power button again restarts the phone as in a soft reset.
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So turning the phone off and on again is a soft reset???? If that's the case why are there cabs for soft reset, seems a bit strange to me. Wish I'd known that before when installing some of the cabs and taking the back cover off to press the reset button

wacky.banana said:
Snerkler,
Some good suggestions here. Be aware that these will only work if the device is NOT in the grip of death, as I call it.
If it has died then there's no option but to take the back off and either press the little red button or take the battery out.
WB
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I know what you mean about the "grip of death" lol. Been there already.

Turning the phone fully off then on again is the same as a soft reset. A simple on/off isn't.
If the device goes through the splash screens on restarting (as after the power button 'hold' switch off) that is a soft reset.
I use a stand alone program called psShutXP which is available on This Page - download the VGA version. It runs as a small Screen Off/Suspend/Power Off utility.

NeilM said:
Turning the phone fully off then on again is the same as a soft reset. A simple on/off isn't.
If the device goes through the splash screens on restarting (as after the power button 'hold' switch off) that is a soft reset.
I use a stand alone program called psShutXP which is available on This Page - download the VGA version. It runs as a small Screen Off/Suspend/Power Off utility.
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I'm not sure what you mean by fully off, and simple on/off. Are you referring to power off, and sleep? In which case I was referring to power off, ie hold power button and then select power off

NeilM said:
Turning the phone fully off then on again is the same as a soft reset. A simple on/off isn't.
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Sorry - could you explain that please? Is there a difference between turning the phone off, and "fully" off?? I assume you're not refering to simply switching off the display when you say a "simple on/off", as that's not off at all.
You've lost me there mate.

There are 3 or 4 suspend states- sorry, but I can't remember what all 4 are
There is 'screen off' which simply turns off the screen but keeps all currently active programs running. This is only available by using a 'Display Off' or 'Screen Off' switch such as the 'Toggle Screen' option in Media Player. WFi and GPS remain active in this state.
The next is 'Suspend' by pressing the power button. This turns off the screen and some functions such as WiFi and GPS and some media players also stop working but the phone remains responsive and timed notifications will still work.
Next is the 'full power off' I mentioned which you get by pressing and holding the power button. This turns off all functions, phone features and stops all notifications working.
That's what I was clumsily trying to say when I mentioned that a 'full power off' has the same effect as a soft reset- as opposed to a 'screen off' or 'suspend'.
[Edit: Having tried this a little more, it may be that the HD2 doesn't differentiate between states 1 and 2 ?. Due to the lack of hardware button configuration, Media Player's Screen Toggle can't be assigned to a button. psShutXP's Display Off button works, but on turning on again, the lock screen starts, which shouldn't happed with a simple display switch. ]

NeilM said:
There are 3 or 4 suspend states- sorry, but I can't remember what all 4 are
There is 'screen off' which simply turns off the screen but keeps all currently active programs running. This is only available by using a 'Display Off' or 'Screen Off' switch such as the 'Toggle Screen' option in Media Player. WFi and GPS remain active in this state.
The next is 'Suspend' by pressing the power button. This turns off the screen and some functions such as WiFi and GPS and some media players also stop working but the phone remains responsive and timed notifications will still work.
Next is the 'full power off' I mentioned which you get by pressing and holding the power button. This turns off all functions, phone features and stops all notifications working.
That's what I was clumsily trying to say when I mentioned that a 'full power off' has the same effect as a soft reset- as opposed to a 'screen off' or 'suspend'.
[Edit: Having tried this a little more, it may be that the HD2 doesn't differentiate between states 1 and 2 ?. Due to the lack of hardware button configuration, Media Player's Screen Toggle can't be assigned to a button. psShutXP's Display Off button works, but on turning on again, the lock screen starts, which shouldn't happed with a simple display switch. ]
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OK, thanks for the explanation

Backlight & Phone Locking Questions

A couple of quick questions for people who have actually got the phone:
1) Is there an easy way to turn the backlight/screen on/off (to save battery) at the press of a button as you can on most other touchscreen phones?
2) How easy/quick is it to lock/unlock the phone?
3) Approx how many seconds is it from when you press the power button to when the phone is fully loaded and ready to be used?
Thanks in advance!

hotlips69 said:
A couple of quick questions for people who have actually got the phone:
1) Is there an easy way to turn the backlight/screen on/off (to save battery) at the press of a button as you can on most other touchscreen phones?
2) How easy/quick is it to lock/unlock the phone?
3) Approx how many seconds is it from when you press the power button to when the phone is fully loaded and ready to be used?
Thanks in advance!
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1. Briefly press the Power Button.
2. To Unlock ~ Swipe your finger across the screen.
3. Depends:
Are you talking of from Powering On or from switching the screen back on?
If from Powering On:-
It really depends on how many Apps/Drivers installed but mine takes around 25 seconds from a long press on the Power button to fully loaded.
If from just switching on the screen:-
Instantly.... and can be switched on either with a brief press on the Power button or the Home key at the bottom of the screen.

Thanks for the reply!
I presume the power button is on the very top edge of the phone?
So would I be correct in saying that a brief press on the power button actually turns the display off (effectively locking the phone from the point of view of accidentally pressing something on screen if it's in your pocket for example) ?
But if the home button turns the screen back on in the same way as the power button, wouldn't THAT be prone to accidentally activating the phone when you don't want it to?
I've always found it much quicker to simply turn off the display instead of actually locking it.

hotlips69 said:
Thanks for the reply!
I presume the power button is on the very top edge of the phone?
So would I be correct in saying that a brief press on the power button actually turns the display off (effectively locking the phone from the point of view of accidentally pressing something on screen if it's in your pocket for example) ?
But if the home button turns the screen back on in the same way as the power button, wouldn't THAT be prone to accidentally activating the phone when you don't want it to?
I've always found it much quicker to simply turn off the display instead of actually locking it.
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The power button is on the side of the phone, on the right side.
If you press the power button on Android it will lock and shut off the screen yes.
and you press the home button on any android device it usually activated the screen and then you have to swipe to unlock.

Thanks...I was getting confused.
So when you briefly press the power button, it actually "locks" the phone and turns off the display and needs to be "unlocked" with another press of this button & a finger swipe.
Is this hard coded or can you stop the "home" button from also trying to lock/unlock the device, i.e. can I simply use the power button to lock/unlock and the home button doesn't do anything in this state??

hotlips69 said:
Thanks...I was getting confused.
So when you briefly press the power button, it actually "locks" the phone and turns off the display and needs to be "unlocked" with another press of this button & a finger swipe.
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Correct.
Is this hard coded or can you stop the "home" button from also trying to lock/unlock the device, i.e. can I simply use the power button to lock/unlock and the home button doesn't do anything in this state??
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It is hard coded.
However, to switch the phone on using the Home button does require a significant press and it is recessed.

Very quick to unlock the phone, whether you use the swipe to unlock or the Android 'join the dots' security. I actually prefer this as you have a decent sized clock on the screen.

I presume the Simcard PIN request on device startup works the same as it does on Windows Mobile devices?

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