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XDA II Photo!

Well...finally, here it is. Note the lack of antenna and digital camera on the back ....mmmm...yummy :wink:
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/1028.html[/img]

Oops...
I was going to attach an image but backed out so heres the proper address:
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/1028.html

Looks to me more like fake
btw... new design (c) Sony Ericsson AB? looks like T610

Same Photo, but CLEAR
XDA II Photo
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Still looks like fake... I think it will look more like Samsung, flat, sharp, SMALL...

Unfortunately, having had the xda for a few months I've come to this conclusion.... you cant have small with this kind of device!
Normal hand held use
I got cramp in my hand using the Sony Erricsson for 20 minutes. This was mainly due to its smaller size, otherwise its a good device. Again I wouldnt want to write a story on it for 2 hours like I did waiting in a car-park the other day on the xda
GPS Navigation
Consequently the xda screen-size is also perfect for GPS use in the car, again, with a smaller screen I wouldnt like using it in that application either.
The only possible way it could be improved size wise is with two screens, in a fold out flip-phone configuration, with the same overall screen size as now, but it would be a pain for GPS.
Basically, If you want a tiny phone, this isnt for you. If you want a device that is highly versatile, ergonomic which just happens to also be a phone, (e.g. as a secondary function) a pocket pc xda / xda2 is excellent.

Groan,.... when are mobile manufacturers going to realise that the xda's user demographic already own decent digital cameras.
The effect of this will be you never use it, unless you're out minus digital camera and see a ufo.
lets face it a ufo would have to be pretty close at 640x480 to make it worth taking a picture of!
Wouldnt it be better to not bother with a built in camera until streaming video calls become affordable/technically available.

It doesn't like a phone anymore......
I'm afraid the signal will not be as good as the old XDA..

xda 2
hi
isnt it a shame they havent fitted a decent camera. especially with the 65000 colours. and why havent the put blue tooth as standard.
regards kevin b

Bluetooth is standard.
WiFi optional via the SDIO slot

says it aint says is optional via sdio slot thats stupid thats theres no bluetoothe

Wait till you have a play with it......very very good!

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kevin.beecher said:
hi
isnt it a shame they havent fitted a decent camera. especially with the 65000 colours. and why havent the put blue tooth as standard.
regards kevin b
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Bluetooth is standard and the Camera is very good

hi
how do you know its good any sample pics.
regards kevin :lol:

To an earlier poster:
These photos are certainly not fakes. In fact I'm trialling an O2 Xda II right now
A cracking wireless pocket pc with a useful still/video camera.

better picture...
There's a good picture and an official T-Mobile announcement here:
http://www.infosync.no/news/2002/n/3952.html
..lance

Here is the O2 Announcement for everyone
http://www.sourceo2.com/News/Press_+releases/01.07.2003-3.htm
Tells a lot more than the T-Mobile site and has realistic dates as well!! :lol:

kevin b said:
hi
how do you know its good any sample pics.
regards kevin :lol:
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Because I have played with it.........

derekcfoley said:
Groan,.... when are mobile manufacturers going to realise that the xda's user demographic already own decent digital cameras.
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The camera's a reason for me NOT TO BUY an XDAII: In the industry I'm in, camera phones are banned for reasons of espionage. Manufacturers should keep in mind that this applies to many other businesses as well. The time will come when we have to go back to old fashioned wired phones on our desks because no wireless device will be available without a camera.
... it would really hurt to buy a new device and immediately treat the camera with a nail and hammer!
Martin

That's really stupid. If you can't be trusted to begin with, you could very well sneak in a mini digital camera anyway. Idiots.

Sony/Ericsson X1: VGA WM device announced!

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http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones/overview/x1?cc=us&lc=en
http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1/default.aspx?cc=us&lc=en
As I could tell, the only thing that is a step back from the Uni is:
Smaller screen
No GPS (although there's an inline headphone GPS version, from what I can tell, without replaceable headset)
Memory Stick =/
However, it does have features that set it apart from the Uni:
800x480 VGA screen. Widescreen, not 4x3 like the Uni's 640x480 display.
Slider (not clamshell). This depends on your preference, but for me I like to see who's calling without having to open the phone up
Optical joystick - this is really awesome. You just slide your finger on it and it guides and onscreen pointer. I've gotta see this.
Headsets have an inline media control accessory. I haven't really found one that works with the Uni.
Camera is 3.2 mp.
Bluetooth 2.0/ADCP by default. Assuming this won't be buggy.
Wifi G - nuff said.
Assuming better battery life.
Smaller. I guess this could be a benefit depending on your opinion on the size of the Uni.

No wonder Sony Ericsson's XPERIA X1 is so good: HTC makes it
please be advised there is some posts about sonyericsson x1 on off topic thread and ,.....
and i think you should to know: this device will be MANUFACTURED by HTC
the X1 is all HTC-built
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/10/no-wonder-sony-ericssons-xperia-x1-is-so-good-htc-makes-it/
it seems there is no further than HTC

It also has a-GPS

I think it looks the dogs danglies, I don't care who makes it. Just look at that screen (dribble dribble)

That damned Sony Memory Stick is the only thing holding it back (I so hate Sony's proprietary garbage). But if it lives up to its promises...I guess that'll be forgiveable!

Hi,
we heard it through the grapevine that the X1 is all HTC-built....
This is what engadget wrote . But i also think it is true. All these htc devices all around....
I think HTC is some kind of reference for the mobile market.
Although some things very crappy in the past
So from my point of view the X1 is really nice device. I noticed it a few days before and of course there's GPS inside.
Although the sliding mechanism looks very comfortable.
The Uni is very universal but in fact it is too big, to use it as a real phone or take it everywhere anytime. At least this is what i do at the moment
The Kaiser is also a good mixture for an everyday device
Maybe the X1 will do it even a bit more better.
But first let's rip off the memory stick interface and integrate SD cards....
scholbert

Sony does make some damn fine electronics, but their customer support is lousy. But the phone looks good, memory sticks suck and the last I checked don't have anything over 4GIGS the touch interface looks neat, and if the keyboard is anything like my old UX then it will be a great keyboard my only concern will be Sony's support of the product.
So basically it is the same thing as the Toshiba except for the video call is that correct?

GSM arena has it with a micro SD slot so it will be interexting to see what it actually has when its released. I like the security of the Clamshell design of the Uni but i might be drawn away by the X1 if its all that it states....
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x1-2246.php

If Sony is reading this I hope to god they:
Use STANDARD SD size so we can store large amounts of data, to be comperable to iPhone
Include GPS so we can use tracking apps that are becoming commonplace

Both pdadb.net confirms the microSD and Sony's own site confirms the GPS
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1117
Expansion Slots: microSD, microSDHC, TransFlash, SDIO
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http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones/specifications/x1?cc=au&lc=en
aGPS
Utilise GPS powered location based services.
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My only worry is the weird proprietry connector it has for USB - although it looks like a miniUSB cable could plug into it (hopefully its just htc's ExtUSB)

New 3D TouchFLo - Damn HOT!!

http://www.theunwired.net/?item=vid...ser-interface-for-windows-mobile-professional
It's from the new HTC Diamond and it looks awsome...

so thats how Manilla is supose to look like

Really nice... but very bad that it won´t work on our actuall devices because of less hardware power....

ChiefmasterB said:
Really nice... but very bad that it won´t work on our actuall devices because of less hardware power....
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I guess so. Unfortunately.

bah. i wish.

It looks really great. I hope we can emulate something like this in the near future!
It would be soooo nice!

video 3D
http://www.youtube.com/v/f_vKsxOT3Lw&hl=en
video cool very beautifull
Processeur Qualcomm 528 Mhz
- 4 Go de mémoire interne
- Slot Micro SD
- Puce eGPS
- Tuner FM
- Appareil photo numérique de 3,2 MégaPixels
- GSM, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA
- 99 x 52 x 10,7 mm
- Accéléromètre
- Batterie de 900 mAh

http://www.youtube.com/user/HTC
Lot of videos!

hot phone right there...though a bit dismayed at the link as it said that the other htc devices (for instance touch/dual/cruise) won't get the updates as they should. I honestly hope the members at xda developers can think of something on release-my brother just got his polaris and almost lunged it at me when he saw the diamond...

The damn musik app is hot! What a great implementation. Looks better than coverflow imho.

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LOL BIG BIG

I wonder why people aren't calling this phone the "iphone killer"

ChiefmasterB said:
Really nice... but very bad that it won´t work on our actuall devices because of less hardware power....
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Ohh, If I had a dime for every time I have read this on this site! "No way we can port WM5 to other devices, the hardware just isn't there!", "there is no way WM5 will ever run as fast as 2003 because of hardware limitations" (then page pool was discovered)
"WM6??!? forget it!" (and here we are with WM6.1). Or one of my favorites: "we cannot have the cube simply because the software/hardware won't support biotouch"... *sights*
The only thing that we cannot imitate (so far) is the accelerometer, other than that, the UIs that I have seen over the past 5 months (Freestyl, PointUI, UltimateLaunch, SPB Mobile Shell 2, rlToday, the cube(s), etc) are similar to (or some even better than) Manilla. With this I am not saying that Manilla isn't cool (it actually is amazing), but I am saying that it can and probably will be done by someone somewhere down the line.
So, think poistive!!!

domineus said:
I wonder why people aren't calling this phone the "iphone killer"
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They will once it comes out!

The One Negative
that I see is that the screen could be larger. Maybe a full 3in

Now everyone will be on HTC jock again and flock to buy this phone, quickly forgetting the 3D issues. HOW SAD

true
but this is also why xda developers exist LOL
I think that once it does hit and it has been sufficiently "modified *cough*hack*cough*
I can see the 3d drivers working and being applied to raphael as well. Slick as hell of a phone

hmm, this will be ripped and ported to most devices im sure, and before that im sure ppl here will make lookalikes

itje said:
hmm, this will be ripped and ported to most devices im sure, and before that im sure ppl here will make lookalikes
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need I remind you I like those lookalikes LOL
anyway
you're right...so hopefully we may see this on a titan...*thinks* yeah right we can't even get touchflo to work properly LOL

I don't see why TouchFLO 3D shouldn't run on other HTC Touch devices.
The diamond has 528 MHz but 640x480 pixel.
Older devices often 400 MHz but only 320x240 pixel.
The processing power shouldn't be the limiting factor. Only memory could become an issue.
Sascha

HTC Touch HD: First LoOk

HTC Touch HD Specification:
* General: GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, UMTS 900/2100 MHz, GPRS/EDGE class 12, HSDPA 7.2 Mbps
* Dimensions: 115 x 62 x 12 mm, 146 g
* Display: 3.8-inch 65K color TFT touchscreen, WVGA resolution (480 x 800 pixels)
* Processor: Qualcomm MSM 7201A, 528MHz CPU
* Memory: 288 MB RAM, 512 MB ROM, microSD card slot
* Operating System: Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional
* Internet browser: Opera Mobile 9.5 browser
* Camera: 5 megapixel autofocus, CIF (352 × 288 pixels) video recording, no flash
* Connectivity: Bluetooth 2.0+EDR with A2DP, Wi-Fi, GPS receiver, 3.5mm audio jack
* Battery: Li-Ion 1350 mAh, Talk time: 6 h 30 min, Standby: 450 hours
* Price: AED 3,499 (USD 953) source
* Release Date: November onwards starting from UAE (maybe 9th of November) source
Live Shots: (thanks to mobilmania.cz)

More live shots:

All i see is specifications....
Where is the review?

Those up-close shots look amazing! Can't wait to get one of these

One very interesting thing in those photos is the headset. Looks like we're going to be able to use the iPhone-compatible headphones with microphone that are available. Might have to get myself a pair of Ultimate Ears!
I wonder if they'll include nice features like being able to pause/skip tracks with the button on the headset?
I'm going out of my mind waiting for this phone. I've only had the Diamond for 3 months!
So envious of europe. Actually getting a gadget first for a change and it happens to be the best phone HTC has ever made.

Europe seems to get all of the HTC phones first. I remember when I bought my TyTN, I got it from Denmark because that too came out in Europe first.

there is no leather case in the box??

wiaza100 said:
Thank you for contacting HTC Corporation Middle East Support​ ​ Dear Mr. Tamer​ the HTC Touch HD is not supporting TV out.​ ​ Please do not hesitate to contact us back for any inquires.​ Please note that you could also contact us by phone using the below link​ http://www.htc.com/mea-en/CA_Hotline.aspx?region=MEA​ Thank you for choosing HTC the PDA maker to the world​ HTC Corporation Middle East Support Team​ Sincerely, ​
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How can you state that there's TV-Out, when HTC has denied this themselves? (taken from this thread)

gervasius said:
there is no leather case in the box??
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Can anyone confirm this?? Also, is there any screen protector??
If this indeed is true it's a very disappointing point for me.
Here's the english version for the first look
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_hd-review-293.php

gervasius said:
there is no leather case in the box??
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From the unboxing shots it looks like it doesn't has a leather case...but I can't confirm that now...
dudeldei said:
How can you state that there's TV-Out, when HTC has denied this themselves? (taken from this thread)
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Thanks for the heads-up...I've corrected the secification...
@All new live shots added to the 2nd post...

superb photos, many thanks
Would you be in a position to comment on how it holds up next to a Diamond??
Thanks

PJ6363 said:
superb photos, many thanks
Would you be in a position to comment on how it holds up next to a Diamond??
Thanks
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check this pic & judge...
Sorry it's in a low resolution though...

azzambm said:
check this pic & judge...
Sorry it's in a low resolution though...
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Thats crazy how much more screen it has over the Touch Pro. Anyone know how much wider the screen is over the Touch Pro?

azzambm said:
check this pic & judge...
Sorry it's in a low resolution though...
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Thanks.....this picture is like 1000 words
....it looks only marginally bigger, but waht a lot more screen acerage!!!
Does nayone have a "side" shot with a Diamond to compare thickness.....?

PJ6363 said:
Thanks.....this picture is like 1000 words
....it looks only marginally bigger, but waht a lot more screen acerage!!!
Does nayone have a "side" shot with a Diamond to compare thickness.....?
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PJ6363 said:
Thanks.....this picture is like 1000 words
....it looks only marginally bigger, but waht a lot more screen acerage!!!
Does nayone have a "side" shot with a Diamond to compare thickness.....?
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look at the french site where they testet it one month a go. its full of comparison shots.
EDIT: Ah wait i searched for you and here is a nice gallery you will like to take a look at!
http://www.xonio.com/bildergalerie/HTC-Touch-HD-Touch-Diamond-und-Touch-Pro-Galerie_32814772.html

I can see that people from the US still is talking about the HD to arrive in US.
Have you read this?
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/07/htc-not-bringing-touch-hd-to-the-states/

PJ6363 said:
Does nayone have a "side" shot with a Diamond to compare thickness.....?
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HERE u go...

azzambm said:
HERE u go...
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so you have got it ?
is there news about battery life?

qetuR said:
I can see that people from the US still is talking about the HD to arrive in US.
Have you read this?
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/07/htc-not-bringing-touch-hd-to-the-states/
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With the current vallue of Dollars... those devicess would simply be to expensive in the US... to be a viable product...
But then the Euro has dropped 10% compared to the dollar over the last week, there is still hope.

X2 Announced

The Xperia X2 was announced officially just a few minutes ago.
Here's some links I took from google news
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=34372
http://www.informationweek.com/blog...l;jsessionid=0ZXMTBGOXVNZPQE1GHPCKH4ATMY32JVN
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Specs:
- Windows Mobile 6.5
- 110 megs internal storage, SDHC microSD card slot
-3.2" touch screen running at 800 x 480 resolution
- claimed talk time on GSM: 10 hours, claimed talk time on 3G: 6 hours
- networks/bands: 2 quad band GSM Eurasian versions listed, one with 3G HSDPA on the 850/1900/2100MHz band and another with 900/1900/2100MHz.
- network bands for the Xperia X2a: quad band GSM and 3G on the 850/1900/2100MHz bands.

They have added a motion sensor, and a youtube app too.

I dont get it!!
why would any x1 owner want to replace it with this? it has the exact spec
and its uglier!!
not to mention that x2 probably wont have xda support

More videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA8BQod9AiI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CagMzo03Myo

What are the specs?

heartwarmer said:
I dont get it!!
why would any x1 owner want to replace it with this? it has the exact spec
and its uglier!!
not to mention that x2 probably wont have xda support
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I agree. The case will probably crack .
iPhone 3gs or samsung omnia pro it is then...

they better not ask 750 bucks for it out the door.. not with the same outdated procesor... ****in milkin it for all she's worth.... i smell a boycott... <disgrunted se customer

omg... i don't want it... the screen 3.2" is still too small (for me)... and why don't i buy the prettier X1 but the uglier & (likely to be) more expensive X2 ???

i thought it looked quite nice.lol. can never tell from just pictures anyway. ill reserve judgement for when i see one in the flesh. id imagine its like when they went from the p900 to p910. where they didnt really change the specs much but improved on a lot of the bugs and usuability. im hoping they sorted the keyboard issue and the terrible reception...

I thought it looked nice. The camera is better, and what does it for me is the fact that it gains tv-out.
Where does it say it is using the same processor?

another vid here
http://www.youtube.com/user/sonyericssonworld#play/uploads/1/llk8fS0BkaE
looks like much more solid than the x1, also its got a flush screen and the led has moved to the top rather than 2 on each side which is dissapointing. was hoping they had kept the illuminations and mayb added a user editor this time around.
very nice user interface but i wouldnt be surprised if someone manages to figure out a way to flash it to the X1
dont like the sound of this though..
"It comes with a 4GB microSD card (Sony Ericsson has clearly given up on M2) and will ship in October, likely when the first Windows Mobile 6.5 devices appear, exclusively with Vodafone in the UK. "
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...ny-ericsson-finally-launches-xperia-x2-631224

I wish our great cookers gonna steal some stuff from x2 like PanelManager and some new panels. On second video we can see that performance is quite bad, normal honeycomb menu is very choppy. I think it's waste of money when the same stuff we can have on our x1

anothadave said:
another vid here
http://www.youtube.com/user/sonyericssonworld#play/uploads/1/llk8fS0BkaE
looks like much more solid than the x1, also its got a flush screen and the led has moved to the top rather than 2 on each side which is dissapointing. was hoping they had kept the illuminations and mayb added a user editor this time around.
very nice user interface but i wouldnt be surprised if someone manages to figure out a way to flash it to the X1
dont like the sound of this though..
"It comes with a 4GB microSD card (Sony Ericsson has clearly given up on M2) and will ship in October, likely when the first Windows Mobile 6.5 devices appear, exclusively with Vodafone in the UK. "
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...ny-ericsson-finally-launches-xperia-x2-631224
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Hope we can still get it in October..... >.<

im not gona hold my breath for an october release but i hope its out before christmas. one advantage to it using quite a bit of the same tech as the X1 is that sony should be able to release it much quicker than the X1.
anyone know if its still got the optical touchpad?

Cheeze[iT] said:
I thought it looked nice. The camera is better, and what does it for me is the fact that it gains tv-out.
Where does it say it is using the same processor?
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Totally agree with you!
Up to me, the design is better than the X1!!!
Please read here:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x2_gets_official_holds_no_surprises-news-1101.php
it clearly states "processor remains unknown" so where you guys are getting infos about processor speed?

pff ... im so NOT going to buy it. my next phone will be an android for sure.
BUT ... i realy like to get my hands on the ROM. the new panelmanager seems nice and this new panel also some ... style

[email protected] said:
Totally agree with you!
it clearly states "processor remains unknown" so where you guys are getting infos about processor speed?
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SE-First.com reports that it has the same processor.

well they can go to hell if it's the same CPU, f*ck them.

how Gille1, very interesting comment ...

hope it got an better cpu. heared it got 512 mb ram?
but it has a lot of advantages: 8.1mp camera, motion sensor, tv-out, bigger screen, stereo-speakers. not exactly the x1, right?