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Speed: Wisbar Advance 2 or SPB Pocketplus?

I was wondering if anyone tested both programs on his/her Prophet.
What I'm interested in is speed, which one uses less memory?
Is there a way you can see which app. is currently using X cpu time, memory?

Pocket breeze 5 is better, to close programs I use handy switcher

marcov said:
Pocket breeze 5 is better, to close programs I use handy switcher
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I'll have a look

RSkillz said:
Is there a way you can see which app. is currently using X cpu time, memory?
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For CPU, have a look at Vidya Pocket Task Manager.
For RAM, I don't know of any; if you find something, please post it here.

I prefer WA2 for task management,very nice &useful .

and better too WA2 LITE , that is very very light for my S200

WA2 lite is OK, but new HandySwither (v2.7) is the best: only 11.9kb of program memory and fully one-hand operation. No problems with phone application and comm manager too.

To switch and close apps, I now use GSPocketMagic (very light and free), I mapped it to the start menu button, so I do not waste any buttons.

Hi All,
i use both WA2 & Spb pocket plus and both work quite well on my Jamin. do not use the WA Desktop since it is useless if you really want to use Spb plus the only problem i face with the Spb is that the actual themes will not show on the Meter bars (Battery, Memory, etc.)

Pocket Breeze vs ILauncher

Hi
As a complete newbie, could someone please explain the difference between SBSH's Pocket Breeze and iLauncher. Both seem to do similar things to me!
Sorry if I'm being a bit dim on this
Rob F
P.S. Is it possible add my device to the forum profile device list so I can add it to my profile?

iLauncher is simply a utility for launching (starting or loading whichever term you prefer) from your today screen.
PocketBreeze actually enhances many of the functions of your PDA by giving robust today screen functionality, replacing the cheezy default plug-ins.
For example, while iLauncher can open the Messaging Application, PocketBreeze will show the contents of your inbox(es) and allow you access to the messages.
Also PocketBreeze supports loading other Today Screen Plug-in (such as iLauncher) into a tab so you can easily switch from on plug-in to another thus allowing more plug-ins than normal without scrolling.
They work great together.

Thanks for that explanation, Kyphur. It's all clear now!
I'll have a go at the trial versions for both.
Rob F

I am using both of them too, as well as pocket weather and pRSSreader.
My today screen now has none of the orginal crap MS stuff on it and looks great.
The downside is the memory usage (only about 8mb left with just those running) and i cant play AOE with them running.

dangerous_dom said:
I am using both of them too, as well as pocket weather and pRSSreader.
My today screen now has none of the orginal crap MS stuff on it and looks great.
The downside is the memory usage (only about 8mb left with just those running) and i cant play AOE with them running.
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You've got to have more than that eating up your memory.
I'm sitting between 16 & 22 Megs always (even when AS is active)..

Memory Leakage...Spb mobile shell causes this...

After installing MUN_RUS and LVSW roms....
The leakage is even worse them WM05 roms.
i start the day with 23 MB, and after 3 hours of work (push mail and some calls) it narrows down to 13-16 MB....
Anyone else experiencing this?
Nadav

No. I don't experience this. I have my phone on 24/7 and this doesn't happen even after long time of no resets.

Remember these are BETA roms

Unless your device was idle when it happened (which it wasn't), this is memory usage, not memory leakage.

ZakMcRofl said:
Unless your device was idle when it happened (which it wasn't), this is memory usage, not memory leakage.
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Yes i understand,
but WM06 is supposed to improve this issue isn't it?
it is even worse then WM05.
Nadavi

That depends on how you look at it. Does WM6 free the memory when it is needed?
For example Vista uses loads of RAM in comparison to XP but that is actually a good thing and intended behaviour. Free RAM = unused RAM = useless RAM.
The only important thing is that applications get enough RAM when they need it.

ZakMcRofl said:
That depends on how you look at it. Does WM6 free the memory when it is needed?
For example Vista uses loads of RAM in comparison to XP but that is actually a good thing and intended behaviour. Free RAM = unused RAM = useless RAM.
The only important thing is that applications get enough RAM when they need it.
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Thats the issue here,
That Pocket pc software doesnt use that much, and doesnt stay resident in memory!
if so, upon closing of the software it should clear out the used memory, i was convinced that in WM06 that think is executed better then WM05.
well it isnt
anyway, about free memory, the device is being up for 13 hours now,
and 11MB free! i can't even run Navigation software.
i've installed
SPB pocket plus
SPB diary
spb mobile shell
spb phone suite
Eyron hebrew support.
Ezdial.
None of thoose are not standart software programs.
What is wrong in WM06?
Nadavi

Windows will not be unloading modules aggressively unless it needs more memory. In other words, if you start a program and then close it, memory usage is likely to change in comparison with what it was before you've started the program. If you run enough programs to really exhaust available memory, it will unload some modules it's not using. One of the reasons it's done is to speed up your program if you restart it...

stepw said:
Windows will not be unloading modules aggressively unless it needs more memory. In other words, if you start a program and then close it, memory usage is likely to change in comparison with what it was before you've started the program. If you run enough programs to really exhaust available memory, it will unload some modules it's not using. One of the reasons it's done is to speed up your program if you restart it...
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I'm using SPB pocket plus to Really close each program being used.
so no software is left open.
but still, with push mail and normal daily usage i got no memory left at the end of the day.
Nadavi

NOT USE SPBsoftware!!!!!

lvsw said:
NOT USE SPBsoftware!!!!!
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ok, they are great softwares! please give me your usage....
What is you rate of memory leakage?
you begin the day with:
and end it with:
which Software installed
Thanks in advance.
Nadavi.

SPB Software only for WM5
If you use this soft on WM6 - memory and system stable PROBLEMS

lvsw said:
SPB Software only for WM5
If you use this soft on WM6 - memory and system stable PROBLEMS
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What apps launcher do you recommend then as an alternative for SPB Pocket Plus??

I'm using SPB Phone Suite and SPB Pocket Plus :\
Almost every software that I know, is for WM5, not for WM6

KamaL said:
What apps launcher do you recommend then as an alternative for SPB Pocket Plus??
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Try iLauncher, but I think that it is for WM5 too Don't know any launcher for WM6

Well, they are for WM5, but most applications are also working properly on WM6.
I've tried iLauncher on WM5, but now i was thinking to try Pocket plus on WM6. The warning of LVSW is making me think twice
Any other recommendations for a good launcher?

I use SPB Mobile shell, SPB Diary and SPB weather...
I had no memory problems with these three when testing either lvsw or mUn ROM.

KamaL said:
Well, they are for WM5, but most applications are also working properly on WM6.
I've tried iLauncher on WM5, but now i was thinking to try Pocket plus on WM6. The warning of LVSW is making me think twice
Any other recommendations for a good launcher?
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I use iLauncher, for me it works well without being too "heavy".

lvsw said:
NOT USE SPBsoftware!!!!!
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Why??
Thanks in advance.
Cheers

alchemax said:
Why??
Thanks in advance.
Cheers
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lvsw said:
SPB Software only for WM5
If you use this soft on WM6 - memory and system stable PROBLEMS
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Today Shortcuts (iLauncher type tools)?

Guys,
Do we have a CAB file for either iLauncher (http://www.sbsh.net/products/ilauncher/index.php?page=summary) full version or something similar that will allow us to create our own shortcuts on the today screen?
Control your Pocket PC using the all new iLauncher, packing together the most important set of utilities to better manage your Pocket PC!
iLauncher is an all-in-one application that brings the most powerful utilities that are missing from the Pocket PC operating system to your Pocket PC device in one package. These include: A tab-based launcher Today screen plugin with various information widgets such as battery and memory meters, speed dial shortcuts, screen capture utility and more; A task manager context menu that allows you to track and control the current active applications; A true 'X' button functionality that really shuts-down running applications as opposed to simply minimizing them; A safe-mode protection utility that makes sure your device will always initialize correctly and much more!
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Hawk

yes, wisbar advance desktop
its amazing, and does exactly what you want, also has the option to add meters such as battery or ram and other great stuff, including today plugins, except calendar. Can also be made to look like an iphone [like mine]. It has unlimited possibilities and you can do whatever you want with it. And the best bit, only 10 usd (5gbp) amazing i know! screenshots of mine if you really need them!
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/products.php?prod=WisBar+Advance+Desktop
rory
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oh yeah, its a great plugin. Well worth the money.
Don't warez.

never seen this before, looks almost identical to spb pocket plus today screen

pff pocketage or WAD(or both)

Recomended
Use Claunch, very similar to iLaunch, only free. Sorry no link, just have to google it.

I have used Claunch for several months om WM5 and it was perfect, but after upgrading to WM6 i'm having some troubles with it. it for sure will not work together with HTC taskmanager 2. it would be very nice if they came up with a stable WM6 version

It is stable for me, now that I use WA3, it sometimes would not appear on my today screen without a refresh before I moved up to WA3, never liked the htc taskmanager much, there are so many taskmanagers, wisbar is the king in my book.

HTC Home VS. Pocket Plus 4

so what do yall think about the two programs... what's the pros and cons between the two..
right now im running htc home and its okay so far but im not sure if I want to install pocket plus 4 on my wing... im testing pplus 4 on my mda...

I like the htc home plus screen is because the large clock, lol, and nothing else. I like the pocket plus 4 because I can tweak the icons, auto hide, minimize it/auto-hide, has the smart scroll thingie, and have today plug-ins as well. I read that Spb Pocket Plus 4.0.1 beta 2 is out, so it's getting even better. In a nutshell, for me, both apps compliment the other. But I'm leaning towards using the Alexk's Alldate app and the SPC pocket plus beta 2 simultaneously.

I use RLCalendar for a large clock and date display. It would be nicer if it had centering and font selection, but it's good enough for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=243418&highlight=rlcalendar

Both of them kill battery life

You are right!!
cgigate said:
Both of them kill battery life
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I have noticed severe battery drain since installing PDAVIET.

SPB Pocketplus 4 + SPB Mobileshell + HTCHome
I have installed both trial verisons and guess what... they become one!
Spb pocketplus integrates into the mobileshell, or the mobileshell integrates into pocketplus. Whatever.
The union rocks and loads you of several useful features without loosing any, but, HTCHome is a must on the today screen because of the clock (puma white downloaded) and the quick acces to SMS and e-mail.
I have left the HTCHome with only 4 tabs (Home, weather, Apps and Profiles) and that makes it much comfortable to use. Now the profiles (Normal/Vibrator/Silence) are also accessible from the mobilshell today screen.
The only thing that I would add is the (must have) batterystatus (added the Reduser skin), which shows GSM Signal strength, powerdrain and, of course, the battery level.
Regards,

I changed my home screen, thus losing the HTC Home Plus screen in favor of installing Alexk's Alldate app (which you can see) that displays the time and date in big letters and numbers, and keeping the Spb Pocket Plus 4.0.1 beta 2 in auto hide mode.. I like simplicity.

how do u add the htc weather.exe to the pocket plus???
Iam trying to add the weather here

Hello @ all,
I´m using Pocket plus 4, Mobile Shell, Phone Suite, GPRS Monitor, Insight, Traveler, Finance, Resco Explorer in the Tabs.
All in Auto Hide mode, so Resco Today don´t needs the Memory all the time. All apps are running on my SD-Card.
Ghostrider

Ghostrider said:
Hello @ all,
I´m using Pocket plus 4, Mobile Shell, Phone Suite, GPRS Monitor, Insight, Traveler, Finance, Resco Explorer in the Tabs.
All in Auto Hide mode, so Resco Today don´t needs the Memory all the time. All apps are running on my SD-Card.
Ghostrider
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I am impressed your not running into problems with SD corruption. What Rom are you running?

I´m running again on the Orginal O2-Terra rom , with 2MB PagePool.
Rom-Version: 4.11.207.1GER
Rom-Date: 03/19/07
Radio: 02.85.90
Protokoll-Version: 4.1.13.39
For 4 weeks now, and no problems, till of the Slow Bootup aprox. 1:10 min
This might be of the 2MB PagePool.
Ghostrider

spb pocket plus issue
Ghostrider said:
I´m running again on the Orginal O2-Terra rom , with 2MB PagePool.
Rom-Version: 4.11.207.1GER
Rom-Date: 03/19/07
Radio: 02.85.90
Protokoll-Version: 4.1.13.39
For 4 weeks now, and no problems, till of the Slow Bootup aprox. 1:10 min
This might be of the 2MB PagePool.
Ghostrider
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I just deleted it from my wing... phone kept booting up in safe mode after soft reset.. and wouldn't stop rebooting...
glitch perhaps...
and now im running low on memory all the time..

for the memory leak it might an problem on the Wing at all I found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337746
for the Reboot Problem, use an Fileexplorer as TC or Resco and rename the File omap850_sdhc.dll in Windows to omap850_sdhc.old and softreset.
for me this slovt the Problem of Bootloop.
hope it help't.

hello!
i would like to use GSPlayer in HTC Home plugin at the music tab.
i like this player because it has equalizer and it is simple etc etc..
and wmp or htc audio has not got
(bassboost.cab not working on htc herald- i have htc herald )
so my question is: is it possible to use this app in place of wmplayer or htc audio?
thanks,
pulyka

i just say no to pocket plus
I had no choice but to do a hard reset on both my wing and mda.. kept having the same problem with the reboots, and random resets on its own... I might try resco file explorer instead... the smart scroll feature was cool but not that serious for me... and pocket plus was preventing my mda from charging aslo.

I liked lite but when I tried to use pocket plus with the cube....all went to hell. I just reflashed the orig rom. got battery...and added pocket plus. i am very, very happy. I loved the cube, but is seemed mostly for show. i do miss the phone contacts page from the cube though

robosiris said:
I changed my home screen, thus losing the HTC Home Plus screen in favor of installing Alexk's Alldate app (which you can see) that displays the time and date in big letters and numbers, and keeping the Spb Pocket Plus 4.0.1 beta 2 in auto hide mode.. I like simplicity.
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Where is Alldate available? I can't find it

boojew said:
Where is Alldate available? I can't find it
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Here ya go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336904