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SPB Pocket Plus 3.1 vs. WisBar Advance 2...which is better?

SPB Pocket Plus 3.1 vs. WisBar Advance 2
I have searched everywhere on the net and there are such mixed emotions as to which utility is overall better (based on stand alone performance, plug-ins you add, themes etc.)
So I turn to this orgi of experts....
What are all your opinions (be detailed if necessary)???
(Please state which one of the two you are currently using if you are using either.)

I use Spb Pocket Plus 3.1 and tried Wisbar 2.x, the reasons I still run PP 3.1:
- I like tabs on my Today Screen to sort my stuff instead of going through menus, submenus and sub-sub-menus
- It performs better on my Vario than Wisbar
- It has a SafeMode for booting/removing programs that otherwise would have to be deleted by hand.
- I like the meters that come with PP3.1
- I like the interaction with Spb Diary 1.7 ( Messages, Contacts, Notes, Tasks, etc. )
- Its ease of use and simple customizing functions
- I prefer the taskmanager more than the wisbar one
But all in all its a matter of PERSONAL TASTE. Some swear on PocketBreeze/Contact Breeze others Spb PocketPlus & Diary for example.
So best thing is - try it - see how it performs on YOUR machine and then go ahead an purchase which suites you best.

hi
may be you can try WAD with WA2 from lakeridge software to. :wink:
regards

i wouldn't directly compare which one is better since they don't exactly do the same things
wisbar is more for skinning and interface while spb is more like utilities and plug-ins
i used to use both together, but i found that wisbar was slowing my device too much, not that it's bad, but i didn't care to skin it anymore

i also prefer pocket plus 3.1
if your using a Wizard device it seems to perform the best and integrates w/the other utilites very well! (i also have spb diary and weather and time)
i've noticed that since i've went to using spb based products/plugins the perf on my mda is way better! (tmobile mda usa w/kjam aku2 rom)
before i was using seperate apps for task managing and today screen info and had to reset daily. now i can go a few days with out a soft reset..
just my .02
oh yea, once you get pocket plus, extended themes will work! and you can make your own via a free add-on to the windows theme maker..

Memory Leakage...Spb mobile shell causes this...

After installing MUN_RUS and LVSW roms....
The leakage is even worse them WM05 roms.
i start the day with 23 MB, and after 3 hours of work (push mail and some calls) it narrows down to 13-16 MB....
Anyone else experiencing this?
Nadav

No. I don't experience this. I have my phone on 24/7 and this doesn't happen even after long time of no resets.

Remember these are BETA roms

Unless your device was idle when it happened (which it wasn't), this is memory usage, not memory leakage.

ZakMcRofl said:
Unless your device was idle when it happened (which it wasn't), this is memory usage, not memory leakage.
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Yes i understand,
but WM06 is supposed to improve this issue isn't it?
it is even worse then WM05.
Nadavi

That depends on how you look at it. Does WM6 free the memory when it is needed?
For example Vista uses loads of RAM in comparison to XP but that is actually a good thing and intended behaviour. Free RAM = unused RAM = useless RAM.
The only important thing is that applications get enough RAM when they need it.

ZakMcRofl said:
That depends on how you look at it. Does WM6 free the memory when it is needed?
For example Vista uses loads of RAM in comparison to XP but that is actually a good thing and intended behaviour. Free RAM = unused RAM = useless RAM.
The only important thing is that applications get enough RAM when they need it.
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Thats the issue here,
That Pocket pc software doesnt use that much, and doesnt stay resident in memory!
if so, upon closing of the software it should clear out the used memory, i was convinced that in WM06 that think is executed better then WM05.
well it isnt
anyway, about free memory, the device is being up for 13 hours now,
and 11MB free! i can't even run Navigation software.
i've installed
SPB pocket plus
SPB diary
spb mobile shell
spb phone suite
Eyron hebrew support.
Ezdial.
None of thoose are not standart software programs.
What is wrong in WM06?
Nadavi

Windows will not be unloading modules aggressively unless it needs more memory. In other words, if you start a program and then close it, memory usage is likely to change in comparison with what it was before you've started the program. If you run enough programs to really exhaust available memory, it will unload some modules it's not using. One of the reasons it's done is to speed up your program if you restart it...

stepw said:
Windows will not be unloading modules aggressively unless it needs more memory. In other words, if you start a program and then close it, memory usage is likely to change in comparison with what it was before you've started the program. If you run enough programs to really exhaust available memory, it will unload some modules it's not using. One of the reasons it's done is to speed up your program if you restart it...
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I'm using SPB pocket plus to Really close each program being used.
so no software is left open.
but still, with push mail and normal daily usage i got no memory left at the end of the day.
Nadavi

NOT USE SPBsoftware!!!!!

lvsw said:
NOT USE SPBsoftware!!!!!
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ok, they are great softwares! please give me your usage....
What is you rate of memory leakage?
you begin the day with:
and end it with:
which Software installed
Thanks in advance.
Nadavi.

SPB Software only for WM5
If you use this soft on WM6 - memory and system stable PROBLEMS

lvsw said:
SPB Software only for WM5
If you use this soft on WM6 - memory and system stable PROBLEMS
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What apps launcher do you recommend then as an alternative for SPB Pocket Plus??

I'm using SPB Phone Suite and SPB Pocket Plus :\
Almost every software that I know, is for WM5, not for WM6

KamaL said:
What apps launcher do you recommend then as an alternative for SPB Pocket Plus??
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Try iLauncher, but I think that it is for WM5 too Don't know any launcher for WM6

Well, they are for WM5, but most applications are also working properly on WM6.
I've tried iLauncher on WM5, but now i was thinking to try Pocket plus on WM6. The warning of LVSW is making me think twice
Any other recommendations for a good launcher?

I use SPB Mobile shell, SPB Diary and SPB weather...
I had no memory problems with these three when testing either lvsw or mUn ROM.

KamaL said:
Well, they are for WM5, but most applications are also working properly on WM6.
I've tried iLauncher on WM5, but now i was thinking to try Pocket plus on WM6. The warning of LVSW is making me think twice
Any other recommendations for a good launcher?
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I use iLauncher, for me it works well without being too "heavy".

lvsw said:
NOT USE SPBsoftware!!!!!
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Why??
Thanks in advance.
Cheers

alchemax said:
Why??
Thanks in advance.
Cheers
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read the post
lvsw said:
SPB Software only for WM5
If you use this soft on WM6 - memory and system stable PROBLEMS
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Today Shortcuts (iLauncher type tools)?

Guys,
Do we have a CAB file for either iLauncher (http://www.sbsh.net/products/ilauncher/index.php?page=summary) full version or something similar that will allow us to create our own shortcuts on the today screen?
Control your Pocket PC using the all new iLauncher, packing together the most important set of utilities to better manage your Pocket PC!
iLauncher is an all-in-one application that brings the most powerful utilities that are missing from the Pocket PC operating system to your Pocket PC device in one package. These include: A tab-based launcher Today screen plugin with various information widgets such as battery and memory meters, speed dial shortcuts, screen capture utility and more; A task manager context menu that allows you to track and control the current active applications; A true 'X' button functionality that really shuts-down running applications as opposed to simply minimizing them; A safe-mode protection utility that makes sure your device will always initialize correctly and much more!
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Hawk

yes, wisbar advance desktop
its amazing, and does exactly what you want, also has the option to add meters such as battery or ram and other great stuff, including today plugins, except calendar. Can also be made to look like an iphone [like mine]. It has unlimited possibilities and you can do whatever you want with it. And the best bit, only 10 usd (5gbp) amazing i know! screenshots of mine if you really need them!
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/products.php?prod=WisBar+Advance+Desktop
rory
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oh yeah, its a great plugin. Well worth the money.
Don't warez.

never seen this before, looks almost identical to spb pocket plus today screen

pff pocketage or WAD(or both)

Recomended
Use Claunch, very similar to iLaunch, only free. Sorry no link, just have to google it.

I have used Claunch for several months om WM5 and it was perfect, but after upgrading to WM6 i'm having some troubles with it. it for sure will not work together with HTC taskmanager 2. it would be very nice if they came up with a stable WM6 version

It is stable for me, now that I use WA3, it sometimes would not appear on my today screen without a refresh before I moved up to WA3, never liked the htc taskmanager much, there are so many taskmanagers, wisbar is the king in my book.

HTC Home VS. Pocket Plus 4

so what do yall think about the two programs... what's the pros and cons between the two..
right now im running htc home and its okay so far but im not sure if I want to install pocket plus 4 on my wing... im testing pplus 4 on my mda...

I like the htc home plus screen is because the large clock, lol, and nothing else. I like the pocket plus 4 because I can tweak the icons, auto hide, minimize it/auto-hide, has the smart scroll thingie, and have today plug-ins as well. I read that Spb Pocket Plus 4.0.1 beta 2 is out, so it's getting even better. In a nutshell, for me, both apps compliment the other. But I'm leaning towards using the Alexk's Alldate app and the SPC pocket plus beta 2 simultaneously.

I use RLCalendar for a large clock and date display. It would be nicer if it had centering and font selection, but it's good enough for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=243418&highlight=rlcalendar

Both of them kill battery life

You are right!!
cgigate said:
Both of them kill battery life
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I have noticed severe battery drain since installing PDAVIET.

SPB Pocketplus 4 + SPB Mobileshell + HTCHome
I have installed both trial verisons and guess what... they become one!
Spb pocketplus integrates into the mobileshell, or the mobileshell integrates into pocketplus. Whatever.
The union rocks and loads you of several useful features without loosing any, but, HTCHome is a must on the today screen because of the clock (puma white downloaded) and the quick acces to SMS and e-mail.
I have left the HTCHome with only 4 tabs (Home, weather, Apps and Profiles) and that makes it much comfortable to use. Now the profiles (Normal/Vibrator/Silence) are also accessible from the mobilshell today screen.
The only thing that I would add is the (must have) batterystatus (added the Reduser skin), which shows GSM Signal strength, powerdrain and, of course, the battery level.
Regards,

I changed my home screen, thus losing the HTC Home Plus screen in favor of installing Alexk's Alldate app (which you can see) that displays the time and date in big letters and numbers, and keeping the Spb Pocket Plus 4.0.1 beta 2 in auto hide mode.. I like simplicity.

how do u add the htc weather.exe to the pocket plus???
Iam trying to add the weather here

Hello @ all,
I´m using Pocket plus 4, Mobile Shell, Phone Suite, GPRS Monitor, Insight, Traveler, Finance, Resco Explorer in the Tabs.
All in Auto Hide mode, so Resco Today don´t needs the Memory all the time. All apps are running on my SD-Card.
Ghostrider

Ghostrider said:
Hello @ all,
I´m using Pocket plus 4, Mobile Shell, Phone Suite, GPRS Monitor, Insight, Traveler, Finance, Resco Explorer in the Tabs.
All in Auto Hide mode, so Resco Today don´t needs the Memory all the time. All apps are running on my SD-Card.
Ghostrider
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I am impressed your not running into problems with SD corruption. What Rom are you running?

I´m running again on the Orginal O2-Terra rom , with 2MB PagePool.
Rom-Version: 4.11.207.1GER
Rom-Date: 03/19/07
Radio: 02.85.90
Protokoll-Version: 4.1.13.39
For 4 weeks now, and no problems, till of the Slow Bootup aprox. 1:10 min
This might be of the 2MB PagePool.
Ghostrider

spb pocket plus issue
Ghostrider said:
I´m running again on the Orginal O2-Terra rom , with 2MB PagePool.
Rom-Version: 4.11.207.1GER
Rom-Date: 03/19/07
Radio: 02.85.90
Protokoll-Version: 4.1.13.39
For 4 weeks now, and no problems, till of the Slow Bootup aprox. 1:10 min
This might be of the 2MB PagePool.
Ghostrider
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I just deleted it from my wing... phone kept booting up in safe mode after soft reset.. and wouldn't stop rebooting...
glitch perhaps...
and now im running low on memory all the time..

for the memory leak it might an problem on the Wing at all I found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337746
for the Reboot Problem, use an Fileexplorer as TC or Resco and rename the File omap850_sdhc.dll in Windows to omap850_sdhc.old and softreset.
for me this slovt the Problem of Bootloop.
hope it help't.

hello!
i would like to use GSPlayer in HTC Home plugin at the music tab.
i like this player because it has equalizer and it is simple etc etc..
and wmp or htc audio has not got
(bassboost.cab not working on htc herald- i have htc herald )
so my question is: is it possible to use this app in place of wmplayer or htc audio?
thanks,
pulyka

i just say no to pocket plus
I had no choice but to do a hard reset on both my wing and mda.. kept having the same problem with the reboots, and random resets on its own... I might try resco file explorer instead... the smart scroll feature was cool but not that serious for me... and pocket plus was preventing my mda from charging aslo.

I liked lite but when I tried to use pocket plus with the cube....all went to hell. I just reflashed the orig rom. got battery...and added pocket plus. i am very, very happy. I loved the cube, but is seemed mostly for show. i do miss the phone contacts page from the cube though

robosiris said:
I changed my home screen, thus losing the HTC Home Plus screen in favor of installing Alexk's Alldate app (which you can see) that displays the time and date in big letters and numbers, and keeping the Spb Pocket Plus 4.0.1 beta 2 in auto hide mode.. I like simplicity.
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Where is Alldate available? I can't find it

boojew said:
Where is Alldate available? I can't find it
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Here ya go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336904

SBSH ilauncher

Currently, I'm using SBSH ilauncher for the following feature.
1) Task Manager
2) Battery indicator
3) Running Programs
4) Occasionally Safe Mode Bootup
The program is pretty heavy on the utilization as well as memory.
Any recommendation smaller program with the above feature to replace ilauncher?

i use wktasks
it has all the functions and it is pretty small in memory and processes.
it's free

airon11 said:
i use wktasks
it has all the functions and it is pretty small in memory and processes.
it's free
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Thanks pal.

the only missing feature is the safe bootup....

pmtan666 said:
Thanks pal.
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When I click on the start button on WM6.5 stock ROM in TP2, the program screen will appear. I use the wktask to kill the page. After this, I'm not able to get back to the program screen.
Does anyone has this problem using wktask? How do I prevent wktask from killing the program screen?

pmtan666 said:
Currently, I'm using SBSH ilauncher for the following feature.
1) Task Manager
2) Battery indicator
3) Running Programs
4) Occasionally Safe Mode Bootup
The program is pretty heavy on the utilization as well as memory.
Any recommendation smaller program with the above feature to replace ilauncher?
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I use iLauncher (using same features that you do), Pocket Breeze and Pocket Weather, all together on my Today screen. After a fresh boot I have 114Mb of free RAM. How much do you have? What do you mean by heavy on utilization?

SBSH iLauncher 3 is not compatible with HTC Sense. It is altogether useless if one intends to continue to use HTC Sense. It only works when HTC Sense is disabled. So, for me, this is a total waste of money.