I don't own this phone yet, but I have a question about OTA updates:
who releases them? the carrier, the phone manufacturer or google?
My problem is that I'd like to know if buying this phone (or any other android based phone) now will let me uses future versions of google android.
yelo3 said:
I don't own this phone yet, but I have a question about OTA updates:
who releases them? the carrier, the phone manufacturer or google?
My problem is that I'd like to know if buying this phone (or any other android based phone) now will let me uses future versions of google android.
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OTA Updates are provided by Carrier or Google & not Manufacturer in case of HTC, HTC has said, they will be providing Updates In an different way like they provide to Other HTC Devices...
OTA updates are most likely 40-60 Mb...
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thanks for the quick answer. Now I'm starting to better understand, and I will ask you another things:
- can OTA updates move from 1.5 to 2.0 (and so on) when it will be released?
- how can I get OTA updates directly from google and not from the carrier?
(I don't think that carriers will keep releasing updates for old phones. I'd like to keep the phone for at least 3 years, while always having the latest software version)
yelo3 said:
thanks for the quick answer. Now I'm starting to better understand, and I will ask you another things:
- can OTA updates move from 1.5 to 2.0 (and so on) when it will be released?
- how can I get OTA updates directly from google and not from the carrier?
(I don't think that carriers will keep releasing updates for old phones. I'd like to keep the phone for at least 3 years, while always having the latest software version)
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You can get OTA updates to any software version. When 2.0 is released, it will most likely be pushed OTA. As far as 2.0 (Donut), its release date has not been announced, but some are expecting it 2H2009, most likely 4Q.
Who you receive your OTA updates from depends on who you purchased your device from (or, which ROM you're running). Google pushes OTA updates to their developer ROMs. T-Mobile pushes updates to their retail devices. &c. Also, not all devices/carriers/updates run on the same cycle. T-Mobile UK received the 1.5 (Cupcake) update about 2 weeks before T-Mobile US did, and both of those pushed updates were after the ADP OTA update.
I'm running the Daldroid ROM (in South Africa on Vodacom (Vodafone))
Is there any way to figure out whether the ROM is configured to get OTA updates? and/or which servers it's trying to get them from?
J.
So I have to trust my carrier, and to hope that he won't stop releasing OTA updates after, say for example, 1 year.
I can't really understand why this thing works in this way: in computers updates are deployed by the program company, not the manufacturer.
So I have to trust my carrier, and to hope that he won't stop releasing OTA updates after, say for example, 1 year.
I can't really understand why this thing works in this way: in computers updates are deployed by the program company, not the manufacturer.
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Vonn over at Android Community Forums just posted that they got an email from HTC Customer Care saying that there will be an update in the very near future.
Full post from Vonn:
Lots of people will probably be interested in this. It was mailed to me today from HTC Customer Care and comes from HTC Head Office.
"HTC is actively working on a software update that will make your experience on your Hero device better. A partial software update is ready in 10 days and a major release will be available in mid September containing local language support.. Please check our website from time to time and update your device when the software is available"
Customer Care don't know exactly what will be contained in the update though so keep an eye on the site.
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Cool.
Lets hope the telco's have betas and are testing to allow for us branded Hero users to take advantage of this.
Normally branded phones have their own software, at least my htc diamond did. The website didn't accept my serial code, instead I had to go to the vodafone site to download the official vodafone rom.
Flashing it to a manufacturer rom (for example normal htc-rom) would screw up my warranty through vodafone (but I heard you would get warranty through htc)
So don't just flash, read before you do that
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Normally branded phones have their own software, at least my htc diamond did. The website didn't accept my serial code, instead I had to go to the vodafone site to download the official vodafone rom.
Flashing it to a manufacturer rom (for example normal htc-rom) would screw up my warranty through vodafone (but I heard you would get warranty through htc)
So don't just flash, read before you do that
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That's good advice. Be warned, people!
Assuming you still had access, you could just flash it back, no?
Excellent news
Makes a change for HTC normally they wait for the guys on this forum to release updates for them. They must be keen to make sure they get the android market share.
Brilliant!
Excellent!!!
Great!
Can someone enlighten me as to how these updates (especially the "major" update in September) work? Do we completely reflash the entire rom? Will this erase our settings, personal data such as smses and downloaded apps? And will it bring the phone back to being unrooted?
Thanks
It will almost certainly wipe your phone but thanks to the fact that so much is stored on Google's servers and the SD card, I didn't find wiping my Hero was actually too bad. Certainly I was up and running again with far less hassle than my Touch Pro...
It will be interesting to see what improvements HTC can put together and what user issues they resolve with it.
Well, I certainly hope this is the case but the guy I spoke with today at HTC customer service in Sweden gave me quite the opposite impression. He told me no major fw-updates were planned, only minor fixes but no dates were set.
Hopefully, he's not up to speed
he's not, my email from HTC came this evening saying 10 days first, September second, i asked because i hope firmware update will take care of the led issue
Good just in time for the US release. Can't wait to hear what they manage to do.
Aridon said:
Good just in time for the US release. Can't wait to hear what they manage to do.
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So that's why they are doing a firmware update for the US market. Couldn't understand why they were so keen yo get an update out.
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he's not, my email from HTC came this evening saying 10 days first, September second, i asked because i hope firmware update will take care of the led issue
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re the leds that will be interesting as my hero has been sent back to HTC for this very reason. When i spoke to customer support they said there was no record of the led issue being reported
Not having LED issues here so I hope the update addresses the UI lag with some performance enhancements.
To be honest, I'm hopeful but not optimistic. Heard all the 'new release in ten days' bollocks from HTC when I had the absolute disaster that was my Kaiser, and never got anything from them then. I hope they've changed...
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It will almost certainly wipe your phone but thanks to the fact that so much is stored on Google's servers and the SD card, I didn't find wiping my Hero was actually too bad. Certainly I was up and running again with far less hassle than my Touch Pro...
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Not necessarily. If you're moving from one major build to another, e.g. T-Mobile US to T-Mobile UK ROM, or T-Mobile to Rogers ROM, then yes, you will probably need to wipe. My experience with the 'official' ROMs is that they never require a wipe and are designed to be so.
I thought this was supposed to be auto updates on these ?
Just got a new one and it is running 1.5 ?
I searched but found nothing....
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you have to do an update since the phone was made there have been updates(1.6) its an OTA or over the air update so you download from t-mobile
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Frequ...oid-FAQ-Frequently-Asked-Questions/td-p/13088
OTAs and Updates
* How do OTAs work? An OTA is an over the air update for the device. Instead of needing to plug your G1 into your computer to update the firmware/software, the G1 regularly "checks in" to see if there are any new updates (similar to how Windows gets new updates). If there is a new update made available the G1 will download it and prompt you to install.
* Why did my friend/dad/etc get the OTA and I didn't? It is difficult to update every G1 at the same time. Instead, the OTA is released to random clusters of users at a time. Android 1.5 with Cupcake is currently being delivered over the air to G1 customers. If you just received your phone, it may take a couple days before it notifies you to receive the update.
* What is current build number? Android 1.5 with Cupcake is currently being delivered over the air to G1 customers. Some customers may be on RC33 and some may have recieved Android 1.5 with Cupcake.
* What is the next build and when can I expect to receive it? Please see the links at the top of this forum.
* Why doesn't Android have... I want Android to... : T-Mobile does not write the Android OS. The Android Open Source Project is developed through a partnership of Google and the Open Handset Alliance. You can view the current roadmap at the Android Roadmap Page, and there is a LINK there to suggest features/functionality that you would like to see in the next update.
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you didn't even look at the official t-mobile support forums or the FAQ
maybe...
Did you go to settings, and click check for updates? it may be under about phone too...
when I got my MT3G in Nov., it had 1.5 and clicking check for updates did nothing but say that I was already up to date.
The next morning I was notified that it was ready to download 1.6. Just give it a day or two.
T-Mobile 2.1 update coming end of March (if all goes to plan)
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T-Mobile 2.1 update coming end of March (if all goes to plan)
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do you have a link to this info?
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http://tinyurl.com/ykqsyyk
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T-Mobile customers who own a myTouch 3G should begin receiving an upgrade to Android 2.1 this spring, according to a Fender press release from earlier today. Other carriers like Rogers Wireless recently announced a similar upgrade to their HTC Magic (which is the same phone) so this news comes with little surprise, but this is the first time we have heard T-Mobile talk about it...
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I have a hd2/hd7 & decided to get a Samsung focus. I just read of pocketnow.com that Microsoft is saying all the people that did nodo un official will be stuck not able to update passed nodo. My question is can I unlock my focus & wait for the official at&t update without worrying about messing my phone up for updates?
it worked fine for me.
@Freddy2Fred what do you mean? My concern is if I unlock my focus when I get it & also install the re-unlock so when I update to nodo will it effect my future updates?
This is what the article says on pocketnow......
"Monday the ChevronWP7.Updater brought the ability to update Windows Phones to the latest build for all those who lost their patience in waiting for the update notification.
A lot has happened since then: the blog post of Chris Walsh no longer has a valid link to the ChevronWP7.Updater -- as in it was pulled! You might have a déjà-vu as the ChevronWP7 unlocker used to jailbreak smartphones was also pulled as the team was in talks with Redmond.
Apparently, Microsoft warns users related to the usage of the ChevronWP7.Updater as it allegedly will put an end to the smartphone's ability in receiving future updates. According to Redmond, re-flashing the device with an original stock ROM would be the only solution to revert from the situation created.
Since Windows Phone 7 stock ROMs aren't available officially the way we got used to them being on manufacturer's websites back in the days of Windows Mobile, you can either stick with NoDO forever or send it back to the factory? What do you think about such an alleged stance?"
Relax... The report doesn't say for sure. It states Microsoft hasn't tested the Chevron Updater and warns its a possibility. HTC phones that used the Chevron Updater reported receiving additional updates almost immediately through Zune for HTC firmware. Regardless, I'm sure the coders like Chevron team and XDA members will provide updates for our current hardware long after Microsoft and the Carriers stopped in order for us to buy new hardware...
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I have a hd2/hd7 & decided to get a Samsung focus. I just read of pocketnow.com that Microsoft is saying all the people that did nodo un official will be stuck not able to update passed nodo. My question is can I unlock my focus & wait for the official at&t update without worrying about messing my phone up for updates?
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There's an AT&T update? I haven't seen one thing from them and at this point I'd be surprised if I ever do so I wouldn't be too worried.
Relax
If you read the article you will see that "might" is used three times in the second paragraph of the quote and "possible" used in the third paragraph. As it was being published, many users who had updated through the updater were receiving Zune update notices and re-updating with no problems.
Thanks for the answers everyone. The only thing I want to do is unlock it, apply the un-relock so I can sideload when needed & have my custom ringtone/sms. I will still wait for the official update still because of this article so I don't have to update then re-update in a months time.
"Now that the ChevronWP7 Updater tool is out, letting you force NoDo onto the Windows Phone 7 handset of your choice, there's nothing else we're still waiting around for, right? Well, not quite. While this shortcut may get you copy-and-paste, there are still non-NoDo related updates coming down the pipeline. Chris Walsh, ChevronWP7 team member and creator of that update tool, has tweeted word that there's a Samsung Focus-specific update in the works, including some bug fixes.
Walsh implies that they'll be several bugs targeted, but the only one he singles out deals with Bluetooth support. We've seen reports of users running into garbled sound and volume swings with devices connected to the Focus, so this may be the fix Walsh mentions."
With this update supposed to land "really really soon", it's likely that AT&T could push it out at the same time it gets around to releasing NoDo for its users who have decided to wait for an official channel, almost certainly later this month. If you have a Focus and have been considering the universal update hack, you may want to hold off, as you're just going to have to revert it in order to install this bugfix update.
You know what this shows? It shows that if AT&T weren't sitting on their hands keeping silent then people wouldn't get so antsy to get the update. If they came out and said "we're testing it and you'll receive it within <blah-blah> amount of time," which wasn't the case, then people wouldn't have had to resort to finding ways of getting the update. As it stands, there may never be a day this year or any year that we'll see an update from AT&T.
There may be bug fixes being made by MS, but will AT&T release it? Not over their dead, greedy hands. They'd rather you buy a new phone than run the risk of having their support people actually do their jobs.
I really hope this stuff gets organized soon to where we get straight updates from Microsoft for each phone itself. Do yall think the focus will be the only one that will have expandable memory? That seems to been a worse idea lol I'm going to keep my focus with the memory it comes with. I really want to stick with wp7 but I hope its not a slap in the face lol
Revert????
djc said:
Thanks for the answers everyone. The only thing I want to do is unlock it, apply the un-relock so I can sideload when needed & have my custom ringtone/sms. I will still wait for the official update still because of this article so I don't have to update then re-update in a months time.
"Now that the ChevronWP7 Updater tool is out, letting you force NoDo onto the Windows Phone 7 handset of your choice, there's nothing else we're still waiting around for, right? Well, not quite. While this shortcut may get you copy-and-paste, there are still non-NoDo related updates coming down the pipeline. Chris Walsh, ChevronWP7 team member and creator of that update tool, has tweeted word that there's a Samsung Focus-specific update in the works, including some bug fixes.
Walsh implies that they'll be several bugs targeted, but the only one he singles out deals with Bluetooth support. We've seen reports of users running into garbled sound and volume swings with devices connected to the Focus, so this may be the fix Walsh mentions."
With this update supposed to land "really really soon", it's likely that AT&T could push it out at the same time it gets around to releasing NoDo for its users who have decided to wait for an official channel, almost certainly later this month. If you have a Focus and have been considering the universal update hack, you may want to hold off, as you're just going to have to revert it in order to install this bugfix update.
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There is no evidence anywhere that you will have to revert anything. Reading other threads and blogs, users in other countries are getting their full updates, including firmware fixes, after using the Chevron Updater to install the update. The new update installs just fine over the hacked update. Others are reporting getting just a firmware update. We really need to see how this plays out but no one knows what will happen and people who are receiving updates after using the hack are reporting positive results. It's amazing that they get the official update and can install it even though their phone is reporting 7390.
Now that HTC Surround is a discountinued model, what chance do you think that we'll ever see updates from WP7 7.10.7720? Given that HTC and the orriginal carrier (in my case, Telus) control the relase of updates, why would they bother testing anyhting new on the Surround?
Are we stuck on 7720 for ever?
Don't think so. Regardless of the device status, Microsoft is still interested in providing a positive user experience and will do what's necessary to make sure relevant updates get pushed through. OEM firmware updates are also a possibility. Things like the dissapearing keyboard will get fixed.
While this is all speculation, all devices should continue to receive support/updates for at least 21-24 months from date of release, or the length of a typical (2 year) contract. At some point the hardware will not have the capability to support new features, but that's to be expected.
Let's hope you're right
the latest is 8779 but still couldnt find any free download on it so i just found 8773 which is the 2nd latest probably.
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1685058
At&t Update coming.....
On their site said that an update for Windows Phone 7 and 7.5 phones it's coming, and the Surround is listed so here's hope I think
http://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=KB117823#fbid=K3TISJ0o9c9
By owning a flagship android device, we always want the latest and greatest software available for this device, but there are only limited number of software engineers that work on android updates for LG flagship devices (around 300-400 engineers) depending on region, so they are not able to provide the users with all the minor android updates Google decides to release. Therefore, they turn their attention on major updates, instead of minor ones to keep their user base happy. Keep in mind that LG honors your device eligibility for upgrade to 24-27 months before dropping support and that we can't always get what we want.
My question to you is... If LG was reconstructing their plans for android updates, which one do you prefer?
1) You want all the minor android updates that Google releases to be released for your LG G3 and receive major ones later.
2) You want faster release of major android updates to the most current version.
To clarify: Choice 1 gives you more frequent small updates and Choice 2 gives you less frequent, but large updates. When your device approaches the support-end date, choice 1 will be one major update behind choice 2 because engineers working on every android updates and won't be able to release the major one in time.
This is a really hard one to call. Recently I received the 20f update from 20e on my D855. It was only a 12mb google patch but didn't change the android version the phone was on, in fact I don't know what it changed! Obviously it fixed or improved something but it would be nice to know what!
I think it is a matter of priority, if we receive a major update, for example going from 5.0 to 5.1.0, which not only has performance improvements but cosmetic and feature additions then I would like to receive this type of update as soon as possible helping my device stay at the cutting edge.
But if this update breaks something... like my wifi becoming unstable or system programmes force closing all the time, I would expect that to become the priority no matter how small the patch update may be!
So to reiterate, my first choice would be option 2 bringing in a touch of option 1 if required!
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This is a really hard one to call. Recently I received the 20f update from 20e on my D855. It was only a 12mb google patch but didn't change the android version the phone was on, in fact I don't know what it changed! Obviously it fixed or improved something but it would be nice to know what!
I think it is a matter of priority, if we receive a major update, for example going from 5.0 to 5.1.0, which not only has performance improvements but cosmetic and feature additions then I would like to receive this type of update as soon as possible helping my device stay at the cutting edge.
But if this update breaks something... like my wifi becoming unstable or system programmes force closing all the time, I would expect that to become the priority no matter how small the patch update may be!
So to reiterate, my first choice would be option 2 bringing in a touch of option 1 if required!
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I have to agree with you. I wish there was a happy medium between the two.