I live in an area where I have great fun with the X1 and it's low signal strength. I have 2 bars of standard connection (GPRS/GSM) until I pick the phone up, and then I have no signal at all. The thing is, what really drives me nuts is getting a SMS, picking the phone up and writing the reply, then putting the phone down for about 15 seconds whilst waiting for a signal, then pressing "Send" without picking it up again! It is sooo annoying! My Nokia 6500 Classic kept its signal all the time! Anyways, this wouldn't be so bad if the phone held the message until it got a signal then sent it instead of displaying that stupid ***** "Message couldn't be sent. Retry?" red message. The Palm Threaded SMS App is almost a perfect work around but has various issues and doesn't like MMS very much. Is there a good SMS/MMS program out there to get round my woes? How difficult can it be to hold a message in "Outbox" till you have a signal!
And no, changing operator is not an option. It's O2 by the way.
Thanks in advance.
mate, this annoys me so much. i have gotten in so much trouble with the missus for not texting her back when in reality the phone has not sent the message and i havent looked for the confirmation cos i turned them off with xperia tweak...
This is a windows mobile problem and it doesn't seem anyone has an answer.
crabby
At home I have no phone signal - this itself is not a real problem, but what *is* a pain is that when I venture out the phone continues to hunt for a signal and fails to lock on. Each and every time I have to switch the phone off and back on again, at which point it happily locks on, displaying (normally) a very strong signal. Is there anythign I can do to avoid having to switch off and on again? Thanks in advance.
lost signal..
I don't think you can do much about it unfortunately. When a contact is lost with the mast you often cannot re-connect until you restart your device which re-establishes a connection. I've noticed this occasionally myself, it's not a fault with your phone..
Thanks for the reply. That's confirmation of what I suspected, but I can't agree it's not the fault of the phone - every other (non-smart) phone I've had has quite happily locked on to any new, valid signal it finds, including when changing country!
signal loss..
You are probably right on the non-smartphone issue but what I meant was that I don't think it's an actual fault with your phone more like the norm for smartphones to do this. Sometimes they can get confused when you are in the centre of 3 masts causing a delay in receiving text-messages.
Ah yes, I see what you mean - no problem with my "instance" of a smart-phone, but rather a weakness of the whole "class" of smart-phone. Once again, thanks for taking the time to write and confirm my suspicions.
regards
toby
Hi everybody,
I have a really really strange and concerning issue with my brand new X1.
I had a HTC touch for more than a year, everything was fine - now with Xperia I immediately installed Touch-IT v9, works OK but very often (not checked if sometimes it does not happen) after finishing a call and pressing the "hook" button I can see in the top bar that for a few seconds (1-5) the signal is complete gone and like magic it comes back. I cannot believe that this should be normal with WinMobile, as the HTC Touch did not do anything similar like this. I'm forced to GSM/2G.
Please let me know if this is something specific to TouchIT, or Xperia issue, or just happens to my mobile? I'm little bit concerned as it is completely new and should not behave like this.
Best Regards, and thanks for feedback!
Norbert
Are you sure the signal actually is gone? It is probably the redetection of current data connection type as the bars up there actually indicate the coverage of the fastest available data connection type. Like having one or no bar for EDGE you actually have all the bars for GPRS. No need to go to 2G for that technical eccentricity.
Does anyone have similar experiences. Today i had the same problem when sending a SMS. Its no problem at all, only GPRS sign goes to unconnected and also the signal shows the "!" for 1-2 seconds.
Am I the only one having this experience?
Hi,
I am amazed that I can't get any info on this with search as it has plagued my last few HTCs but is pisstake bad on the HD.
My phone will lose signal then keep trying to find and fail.
A quick reboot on any of my nimiety of HTC would let is reestablish signal and I could make a call. That works fine for the HD, but instead of being every few days, its every few minutes.
no signal, spining searching for signal sign.
reboot,
4 bar signal
30s wait , lost signal.
reboot
4 bar then lost.
reboot.
get wife's phone out of her bag, make call.
Is there anyway of forcing the HTC to keep a good phone signal or to at least improve it?
How is everyone else finding the signal on this phone, I use HTC because I can get a mobile signal where others get nowt, I even got a text down a cave before!!!!
(shocking because getting a text 15m underground is both amazing and it means I had taken my phone into a cave).
its very likely that your motherboard is failing, sounds similar to a problem my cousin was experiencing with his phone, made it impossible to make calls....was getting about 80% of his calls dropped. I'd suggest returning to stock rom & if the device is still under warranty getting it back to HTC.
There is no such thing as potentially stupid questions, just potentially stupid answers!
Would tend to side with DRTigerlilly, sounds like you have a malfunction most likely caused by motherboard.
My old sony ericcson phone used to hold an sms in the outbox if i had no signal and send it when i did.
This phone just pops up a very annoying message saying it cant be sent. I live in an area with very poor signal, and really need this phone to try for a while before telling me it cant send.
How can this be done?
darksupernova said:
My old sony ericcson phone used to hold an sms in the outbox if i had no signal and send it when i did.
This phone just pops up a very annoying message saying it cant be sent. I live in an area with very poor signal, and really need this phone to try for a while before telling me it cant send.
How can this be done?
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Do search and ask around the ROM Development thread.
Pretty sure there's a cab to turn off the annoying notification.
As for the how many times the device should try to attempt sending an SMS before giving up, it should be somewhere in the Messaging setting for SMS/MMS. Please check. But you should consider that it will drain your battery rigorously.
im interested in this too, ur option BumAround doesnt awnser his question. he just wants the phone to see hey i got signal lets send this message i have in my outbox. not letting the phone keep trying to send it. (wich at its highest settings only tries to send it for like 30 seconds.)
@ jamieeeee, your right, is it possible to program the phone to do this? As i ponted out, its not new technology, and im surprised all phones dont do it!
exactly where is the setting to try sending out [messages, be it SMS or MMS] for 30 sec attempt? I thought it was only how many attempts (read: times)
well, if that being the case, no solution that I know of except: (1)experiment with better radio ROM, or (2)install a signal booster at where you live. Sorry.
i asked this question before... but it got brushed off considering that most people on here very seldom help other members.... but yea.. i despise having to constantly retry send over and over until i get better reception and it finally goes through... i would much rather have it just continue trying ON ITS OWN... there has to be a tweak or something which enables something so simple as this... i will continue searching but let me know if you find any updates towards it.. THIS WILL BE VERY USEFUL TO ME... i also live in a area with poor reception... (sucks cause RIGHT when i leave my apartments and onto the streets.. i have 3g...) lame...
I have been asking for since i first came to windows mobile early 2009, havnt found a single thing yet!
If my sony ericcson k750i can do it without losing its battery, then why cant a much more advanced windows mobile device do it!?
ProjektFuze said:
i asked this question before... but it got brushed off considering that most people on here very seldom help other members.... but yea.. i despise having to constantly retry send over and over until i get better reception and it finally goes through... i would much rather have it just continue trying ON ITS OWN... there has to be a tweak or something which enables something so simple as this... i will continue searching but let me know if you find any updates towards it.. THIS WILL BE VERY USEFUL TO ME... i also live in a area with poor reception... (sucks cause RIGHT when i leave my apartments and onto the streets.. i have 3g...) lame...
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Well, but then constantly attempting to send on its own will mean battery drains, don't you think?
What you actually want is a cab that makes the phone on perpetual attempts mode until it succeeded, and then prompt a notice, is it ?
I still believe your best bet is to install signal booster somewhere in your house. Well, upon googling, I stumbled into this survivalist's method, cheap sticker thingy, to this expensive amp/booster.
BumAround said:
Well, but then constantly attempting to send on its own will mean battery drains, don't you think?
What you actually want is a cab that makes the phone on perpetual attempts mode until it succeeded, and then prompt a notice, is it ?
I still believe your best bet is to install signal booster somewhere in your house. Well, upon googling, I stumbled into this survivalist's method, cheap sticker thingy, to this expensive amp/booster.
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NO.... i don't "think" that sending a sms will put a drain to the battery.. even when retrying on its own... like the OP has stated.. old flip phones and what not have that ability so i HIGHLY doubt that it would be much different on a far more advanced phone... dont YOU think???
Other phones don't actually make constant attempts at resending the message after it fails the first time...
The unsent message sits in the outbox as a pending task until a signal is detected. When the phone detects a signal, the phone will make another attempt at sending the message, which is then usually successful.
A drain on the battery will only happen if the phone makes continuous attempts at resending the message regardless of whether or not it detects a signal. In this case, if the phone is set to retry every 30 seconds and someone is in an area where there is no signal for say 5 hours, the drain on the batter will be the equivalent of sending 600 messages!
The solution that we need is the first one where the message will in the outbox until the phone detects a signal....
bobbified said:
Other phones don't actually make constant attempts at resending the message after it fails the first time...
The unsent message sits in the outbox as a pending task until a signal is detected. When the phone detects a signal, the phone will make another attempt at sending the message, which is then usually successful.
A drain on the battery will only happen if the phone makes continuous attempts at resending the message regardless of whether or not it detects a signal. In this case, if the phone is set to retry every 30 seconds and someone is in an area where there is no signal for say 5 hours, the drain on the batter will be the equivalent of sending 600 messages!
The solution that we need is the first one where the message will in the outbox until the phone detects a signal....
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Yes thats exactly what we need, but i have no idea where to start..... Does anyone?
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in short..........
NO.... i don't "think" that sending a sms will put a drain to the battery.. even when retrying on its own... like the OP has stated.. old flip phones and what not have that ability so i HIGHLY doubt that it would be much different on a far more advanced phone... dont YOU think???
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bobbified said:
Other phones don't actually make constant attempts at resending the message after it fails the first time...
The unsent message sits in the outbox as a pending task until a signal is detected. When the phone detects a signal, the phone will make another attempt at sending the message, which is then usually successful.
A drain on the battery will only happen if the phone makes continuous attempts at resending the message regardless of whether or not it detects a signal. In this case, if the phone is set to retry every 30 seconds and someone is in an area where there is no signal for say 5 hours, the drain on the batter will be the equivalent of sending 600 messages!
The solution that we need is the first one where the message will in the outbox until the phone detects a signal....
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still doubting that *perpetual attempts* of sending out an SMS will NOT drain the batt. oh well, but anyway....
so, the SMS is designed to sit in the outbox until the phone detects decent amount of signal strength to (re)sending out the SMS successfully.
all being said, the OP actually need the *failure message* (due to signal strength or no signal) to be silenced (no pop up window), until the SMS is being sent out successfully.
does it make sense?
I was sitting on the train on my way home a few minutes ago and found a registry key that LOOKs like it might have something to with this:
HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCMessaging\Setting\SendRetryIntervalTemp
that's got a value of "5 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60"...
by looking at the value of the key, it looks like it retries 5 seconds after the first failed attempt... then 60 secs between each retry after that and perhaps gives up after the tenth fail?
The registry key is in the "HTCMessaging" folder, which I think is the folder that to covers emails, mms and sms. So it really could apply to any of those three items.
Maybe someone with a bit more knowledge than myself can help shed some light?
btw.. I have not made any attempts to modify or test the above, so if you do, you're doing it at your own risk! Just looks like an interesting key..
i think we're getting close.. someone please
bobbified said:
I was sitting on the train on my way home a few minutes ago and found a registry key that LOOKs like it might have something to with this:
HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCMessaging\Setting\SendRetryIntervalTemp
that's got a value of "5 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60"...
by looking at the value of the key, it looks like it retries 5 seconds after the first failed attempt... then 60 secs between each retry after that and perhaps gives up after the tenth fail?
The registry key is in the "HTCMessaging" folder, which I think is the folder that to covers emails, mms and sms. So it really could apply to any of those three items.
Maybe someone with a bit more knowledge than myself can help shed some light?
btw.. I have not made any attempts to modify or test the above, so if you do, you're doing it at your own risk! Just looks like an interesting key..
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I am using the custom Energy ROM, and i have that exact same reg key, but my phone pops up a message IMMEDIATELY after i hit the send button if there is not enough signal, so either this key is for something else, for the ROM im using has been altered.
It would makes sense if this key was the correct one because when i was using a stock ROM a while ago it did wait for a while before popping the message up. Anyone know what setting has been changed between my Energy ROM and the old stock one? Im guessing its been turned off to save battery.
Thanks,
Max