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Hi there, due to the fact that the search option doesn't work with less then 4 characters, i can't search for "sms".
But here's my real problem:
I've flashed different roms into my mda vario, after unlocking it. First the Molski.biz rom, then the last original t-mobile rom, but it was toooo slow, i've imediatly deleted it, en flashed the mr clean rom.
But in all roms i have some delay in recieving sms-messages.
Half the time they appear directly after they were sent by my friends, but sometimes i get them after a few hours. for example: it was sent at 15:00, and i received it at 17:30.
And sometimes i don't get any sms-messages, and after an soft-reset, i get 10 at one time, all delayed.
does anyone know what to do about it? or what causes it?
Regards,
Twan
i sometimes get this too though not often its usually when my phone loses signal and when it comes back into signal it wont recevie txt messages until i soft reset or send another txt out then ill get like 4 all at once lol.
Wizard isnt the best phone for txtin i must say as i send a good 1,000 txts a month and so far its poor.
Sounds like a network issue to me...
The network isn't registering the phone or something similar. For SMS the towers "push" the messages to the phone. Queuing them when they don't detect the phone on the network. If the phone is on the network and not getting the messages until it is reset and forced to re-acquire its signal than it is a network problem.
I've seen this problem on a few networks regardless of phone make and model.
I would agree with the above, its a provider issue not a phone issue.
I have a debate with Orange about 10 years ago about not getting text messeges when I loose and then regain service. I was told that when a text is sent to a phone that is off or lost a signal the message is stored until a set time has passed and then delivery is retried, thus getting all the messages at once. The way 'around' this is the disconnect the phone from the network and re-connect. This forces a scan of the message queues and again you will get all messages in one go.
I would assume going in to Flight Mode and back will do the same thing as a soft boot, but I have not tested this.
Okay,
so i could suggest it's not quitte an rom- or wizzard-issue, but a network-issue.
I also think going to flightmode and back will solve the problem. So we will hear from you if that's a solution?
I'm busy reflashing a new rom into my wizzard.
TwanS said:
I also think going to flightmode and back will solve the problem. So we will hear from you if that's a solution?
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I would hope that as you seeing the problem that you could test this. I get all my texts on time (luckely) so I can't help you I am afraid, I can just share my thoughts.
Let us know how you get on.
bilbo_28 said:
I would hope that as you seeing the problem that you could test this. I get all my texts on time (luckely) so I can't help you I am afraid, I can just share my thoughts.
Let us know how you get on.
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I've tried, but now there's nobody who has sent me an sms
ghehe, i'll wait....
but i do think it will work.
i'll keep you posted
This is happening to me all of a sudden and its not a network issue. I have 4 phones on my account and i texted between all of them and only my phone won't get the messages UNLESS I reboot my phone or use smartskey to close a window.
Here is the strange part, when a text message is sent to my phone, the screen turns on, but doesn't show the message pop.
Is smartskey blocking it?
Also, closing a window by clicking on the X also kicks the message to come through
The Sony Ericsson x1 is £500s worth of so called smart phone
But the one thing I realy cant stand about it is that it wont auto que text messages.
By this I mean.... if I try to send a text message with no signal I get a big nastey red message saying something allong the lines of Message Was Not Sent. Try again? and a loud anoying beep to follow
What I want...... Is to be able to hit send, jam the phone back in my pocket and get back to what I was doing. Happy in the knowledge that if I didnt have signal when I sent the message, it will automaticly re-send as soon as I walk into signal.
This is nothing new both my old phones had it (w200i & w300i both cost less than £40) if anybody knows of a way fix this or has the brains to create a way to fix this then id drop to my knees and worship you! Coz I dont know how much longer I can stand walking around my house with both my arms in the air beeping instead of sending a text.
ALL THOSE THAT AGREE THIS NEEDS FIXING PLEASE POST
Message Was Not Sent. Try again?
Its a PPC not a smartphone
But yes it is pretty lame but i can deal with it
yep if somebody can think of a way to fix this - would be much appreciated!
no fixes im afraid matey
we all here just learn to live with the lame ass excuse of a device this can be
but hey for me it does 7 outa the 10 things i need!
Dont lose hope! there are people out there smart enuff to put a phone in a phone (TF3D) SOMEONE SOMEWHERE WILL SAVE US! untill then im just gonna keep moneing
your telecomm operator sucks...not the phones fault.
now if u try to call someone and signal is poor..what do u expect?..X1 should call the guy back once signal is good again? lol.
Nocturnal310 said:
your telecomm operator sucks...not the phones fault.
now if u try to call someone and signal is poor..what do u expect?..X1 should call the guy back once signal is good again? lol.
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I dont realy have a problem with makeing calls I found that if my signal drops I just go into comm manager turn phone off then on and 3 seconds later I get 2 bars were I had no signal b4 sometimes poor quality but no beeping or 40 cannot make call so up yours .!.. messages. works for me eveytime but not with messageing
Honestly, the Treos I had... 600, 650, 680, ALL already auto-retried if you sent an SMS out of coverage.
In fact, I can (and have experienced) a few situations this is useful. FOR EXAMPLE:-
1) Hiking outback, with spotty coverage, I could set it to send an SMS letting my family/gf/whoever know I am safe and will be home at XXX time, and the SMS will auto-send as soon as there is a brief signal.
2) Sometimes, the signal is weak enough that a voice call won't work, but an SMS could actually be sent. In this situations, allowing the phone to take care of sending the SMS with the weak signal works better since it auto-resends repeatedly until it goes through.
3) When on the airplane, I had my phone on plane mode (no signal), and I would queue up a bunch of SMS messages to friends to let them know I arrived. As soon as I land, I turn off the plane mode (turn on the signal) and it punches out all the queued up SMS messages.
These are just a few I can think of that I used, I'm sure there are many other situations this would be useful to have auto-retry sending messages.
Anyone have good ideas?!
I find it annoying i can't stop a message being sent once I press the send button (accidentaly or otherwise).
good thing i always have signal in netherlands Oo
im too cheap to get the text message plan with att, so i asked them to block the service for me all together
lack of text message can be make up for by having unlimited internet
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3) When on the airplane, I had my phone on plane mode (no signal), and I would queue up a bunch of SMS messages to friends to let them know I arrived. As soon as I land, I turn off the plane mode (turn on the signal) and it punches out all the queued up SMS messages.
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What if the plane crashes and you don't survive but your phone does? Sour aftertaste for friends and family that would be
It never happened to me, but I found a setting in the MMS settings, which says in case of failure, retry x times. My phone is in french, but if I try to translate litterally, it is (from your SMS inbox) :
Menu - MMS options - Number of tries in case of failure : and then select 5 in the listbox.
Trudi said:
It never happened to me, but I found a setting in the MMS settings, which says in case of failure, retry x times. My phone is in french, but if I try to translate litterally, it is (from your SMS inbox) :
Menu - MMS options - Number of tries in case of failure : and then select 5 in the listbox.
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Originally Posted by johnchan78 View Post
3) When on the airplane, I had my phone on plane mode (no signal), and I would queue up a bunch of SMS messages to friends to let them know I arrived. As soon as I land, I turn off the plane mode (turn on the signal) and it punches out all the queued up SMS messages.
Im gonna try both of these thanks guys
Trudi said:
It never happened to me, but I found a setting in the MMS settings, which says in case of failure, retry x times. My phone is in french, but if I try to translate litterally, it is (from your SMS inbox) :
Menu - MMS options - Number of tries in case of failure : and then select 5 in the listbox.
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Mine was set to 3 its on 5 now. It may help a little but I still have my problem
3) When on the airplane, I had my phone on plane mode (no signal), and I would queue up a bunch of SMS messages to friends to let them know I arrived. As soon as I land, I turn off the plane mode (turn on the signal) and it punches out all the queued up SMS messages.
Its usefull to know that you can prep messages ready to sent, but how dose it work? if I send a text with phone off and then flick it on will it auto send the message when it finds signal?
w.i.n.d.l.e said:
Its usefull to know that you can prep messages ready to sent, but how dose it work? if I send a text with phone off and then flick it on will it auto send the message when it finds signal?
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Well, the PalmOS Treos worked that way. They'll queue up, and as soon as a signal is detected, it sends all the queued up SMS.
Angelusz said:
What if the plane crashes and you don't survive but your phone does? Sour aftertaste for friends and family that would be
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Wow never thought of it that way haha. Touch wood.
Trudi said:
It never happened to me, but I found a setting in the MMS settings, which says in case of failure, retry x times. My phone is in french, but if I try to translate litterally, it is (from your SMS inbox) :
Menu - MMS options - Number of tries in case of failure : and then select 5 in the listbox.
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Unfortunately, this only affects MMS, not SMS. So it retries MMS, not SMS.
i was having these issues, and it is the cell company.
tmo was giving me the run around talking the x1 is not supported. but then i had them dissconnect my line and refresh m connection to their network and have not had a problem yet.
il get onto vodafone then see what they say, iv asked sony ericsson about it and they wernt any help They also told me theres no way to stop the experiance panel from changeing colour thay say its a feature of the phone
Whos idea was it to call the cancel button the ok button lol. I still havnt sussed out how to use it. Sometimes it closes programs and somtimes it dosnt
sometimes it will let me switch programs and sometimes it wont? madness lol
I know this phone inst meant to have the best signal in the world, but it seems to have good signal were I am and as soon as i try to use the internet or send a message it drops out completely?
any ideas for this problem?
thanks in advance!
I think I have the same / similar issue, moreso when trying to send an SMS. It doesn't always happen but the majority of the time when I am at home or on the train. Hit REPLY on a text and then type it and normally have to wait until the signal returns, normally 10 - 40 seconds maybe.
Sound familiar?
got that, too.
If I put the hardware keyboard out my signal sucks, when I open Opera my signal sucks, too.
My old sony ericcson phone used to hold an sms in the outbox if i had no signal and send it when i did.
This phone just pops up a very annoying message saying it cant be sent. I live in an area with very poor signal, and really need this phone to try for a while before telling me it cant send.
How can this be done?
darksupernova said:
My old sony ericcson phone used to hold an sms in the outbox if i had no signal and send it when i did.
This phone just pops up a very annoying message saying it cant be sent. I live in an area with very poor signal, and really need this phone to try for a while before telling me it cant send.
How can this be done?
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Do search and ask around the ROM Development thread.
Pretty sure there's a cab to turn off the annoying notification.
As for the how many times the device should try to attempt sending an SMS before giving up, it should be somewhere in the Messaging setting for SMS/MMS. Please check. But you should consider that it will drain your battery rigorously.
im interested in this too, ur option BumAround doesnt awnser his question. he just wants the phone to see hey i got signal lets send this message i have in my outbox. not letting the phone keep trying to send it. (wich at its highest settings only tries to send it for like 30 seconds.)
@ jamieeeee, your right, is it possible to program the phone to do this? As i ponted out, its not new technology, and im surprised all phones dont do it!
exactly where is the setting to try sending out [messages, be it SMS or MMS] for 30 sec attempt? I thought it was only how many attempts (read: times)
well, if that being the case, no solution that I know of except: (1)experiment with better radio ROM, or (2)install a signal booster at where you live. Sorry.
i asked this question before... but it got brushed off considering that most people on here very seldom help other members.... but yea.. i despise having to constantly retry send over and over until i get better reception and it finally goes through... i would much rather have it just continue trying ON ITS OWN... there has to be a tweak or something which enables something so simple as this... i will continue searching but let me know if you find any updates towards it.. THIS WILL BE VERY USEFUL TO ME... i also live in a area with poor reception... (sucks cause RIGHT when i leave my apartments and onto the streets.. i have 3g...) lame...
I have been asking for since i first came to windows mobile early 2009, havnt found a single thing yet!
If my sony ericcson k750i can do it without losing its battery, then why cant a much more advanced windows mobile device do it!?
ProjektFuze said:
i asked this question before... but it got brushed off considering that most people on here very seldom help other members.... but yea.. i despise having to constantly retry send over and over until i get better reception and it finally goes through... i would much rather have it just continue trying ON ITS OWN... there has to be a tweak or something which enables something so simple as this... i will continue searching but let me know if you find any updates towards it.. THIS WILL BE VERY USEFUL TO ME... i also live in a area with poor reception... (sucks cause RIGHT when i leave my apartments and onto the streets.. i have 3g...) lame...
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Well, but then constantly attempting to send on its own will mean battery drains, don't you think?
What you actually want is a cab that makes the phone on perpetual attempts mode until it succeeded, and then prompt a notice, is it ?
I still believe your best bet is to install signal booster somewhere in your house. Well, upon googling, I stumbled into this survivalist's method, cheap sticker thingy, to this expensive amp/booster.
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Well, but then constantly attempting to send on its own will mean battery drains, don't you think?
What you actually want is a cab that makes the phone on perpetual attempts mode until it succeeded, and then prompt a notice, is it ?
I still believe your best bet is to install signal booster somewhere in your house. Well, upon googling, I stumbled into this survivalist's method, cheap sticker thingy, to this expensive amp/booster.
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NO.... i don't "think" that sending a sms will put a drain to the battery.. even when retrying on its own... like the OP has stated.. old flip phones and what not have that ability so i HIGHLY doubt that it would be much different on a far more advanced phone... dont YOU think???
Other phones don't actually make constant attempts at resending the message after it fails the first time...
The unsent message sits in the outbox as a pending task until a signal is detected. When the phone detects a signal, the phone will make another attempt at sending the message, which is then usually successful.
A drain on the battery will only happen if the phone makes continuous attempts at resending the message regardless of whether or not it detects a signal. In this case, if the phone is set to retry every 30 seconds and someone is in an area where there is no signal for say 5 hours, the drain on the batter will be the equivalent of sending 600 messages!
The solution that we need is the first one where the message will in the outbox until the phone detects a signal....
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Other phones don't actually make constant attempts at resending the message after it fails the first time...
The unsent message sits in the outbox as a pending task until a signal is detected. When the phone detects a signal, the phone will make another attempt at sending the message, which is then usually successful.
A drain on the battery will only happen if the phone makes continuous attempts at resending the message regardless of whether or not it detects a signal. In this case, if the phone is set to retry every 30 seconds and someone is in an area where there is no signal for say 5 hours, the drain on the batter will be the equivalent of sending 600 messages!
The solution that we need is the first one where the message will in the outbox until the phone detects a signal....
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Yes thats exactly what we need, but i have no idea where to start..... Does anyone?
ProjektFuze said:
in short..........
NO.... i don't "think" that sending a sms will put a drain to the battery.. even when retrying on its own... like the OP has stated.. old flip phones and what not have that ability so i HIGHLY doubt that it would be much different on a far more advanced phone... dont YOU think???
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bobbified said:
Other phones don't actually make constant attempts at resending the message after it fails the first time...
The unsent message sits in the outbox as a pending task until a signal is detected. When the phone detects a signal, the phone will make another attempt at sending the message, which is then usually successful.
A drain on the battery will only happen if the phone makes continuous attempts at resending the message regardless of whether or not it detects a signal. In this case, if the phone is set to retry every 30 seconds and someone is in an area where there is no signal for say 5 hours, the drain on the batter will be the equivalent of sending 600 messages!
The solution that we need is the first one where the message will in the outbox until the phone detects a signal....
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still doubting that *perpetual attempts* of sending out an SMS will NOT drain the batt. oh well, but anyway....
so, the SMS is designed to sit in the outbox until the phone detects decent amount of signal strength to (re)sending out the SMS successfully.
all being said, the OP actually need the *failure message* (due to signal strength or no signal) to be silenced (no pop up window), until the SMS is being sent out successfully.
does it make sense?
I was sitting on the train on my way home a few minutes ago and found a registry key that LOOKs like it might have something to with this:
HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCMessaging\Setting\SendRetryIntervalTemp
that's got a value of "5 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60"...
by looking at the value of the key, it looks like it retries 5 seconds after the first failed attempt... then 60 secs between each retry after that and perhaps gives up after the tenth fail?
The registry key is in the "HTCMessaging" folder, which I think is the folder that to covers emails, mms and sms. So it really could apply to any of those three items.
Maybe someone with a bit more knowledge than myself can help shed some light?
btw.. I have not made any attempts to modify or test the above, so if you do, you're doing it at your own risk! Just looks like an interesting key..
i think we're getting close.. someone please
bobbified said:
I was sitting on the train on my way home a few minutes ago and found a registry key that LOOKs like it might have something to with this:
HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCMessaging\Setting\SendRetryIntervalTemp
that's got a value of "5 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60"...
by looking at the value of the key, it looks like it retries 5 seconds after the first failed attempt... then 60 secs between each retry after that and perhaps gives up after the tenth fail?
The registry key is in the "HTCMessaging" folder, which I think is the folder that to covers emails, mms and sms. So it really could apply to any of those three items.
Maybe someone with a bit more knowledge than myself can help shed some light?
btw.. I have not made any attempts to modify or test the above, so if you do, you're doing it at your own risk! Just looks like an interesting key..
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I am using the custom Energy ROM, and i have that exact same reg key, but my phone pops up a message IMMEDIATELY after i hit the send button if there is not enough signal, so either this key is for something else, for the ROM im using has been altered.
It would makes sense if this key was the correct one because when i was using a stock ROM a while ago it did wait for a while before popping the message up. Anyone know what setting has been changed between my Energy ROM and the old stock one? Im guessing its been turned off to save battery.
Thanks,
Max
Does the airware work with aosp roms? ive noticed my signal gets really bad running any type of aosp at my house (always had bad reception) few months ago sprint sent us an airware, i flashed tommys sense rom and i noticed i get much better signal and the mobile broadband light is blinking on the airwave, when on aosp no blinking light and down to 1 bar sometimes no 3g
My phone connects to my Airrave fine on MIUI - that is, when the Airrave is working. It's a POS.
No rom works well with the airave. Its a piece of garbage that deserves to burn.
First, your better off WITHOUT it. It basically only makes your phone beep 3 times when starting or receiving a call, steals bandwith from your internet, and gives your phone a placibo 4-6 bar signal depending on how close you are.
OCCASIONALLY it will help your call quality. But it will screw up your texts. Be warned, when you have it on and try texting people and get a "message not sent" notify, pull the plug on your airave instantly and make it restart or keep it off or else the person your texting gets 5-40 of the exact same message. It pisses everyone off.. When the issue happens like then, restarting it sometimes fixes the issue for maybe 30mins to 5 hours?
ReapersDeath said:
No rom works well with the airave. Its a piece of garbage that deserves to burn.
First, your better off WITHOUT it. It basically only makes your phone beep 3 times when starting or receiving a call, steals bandwith from your internet, and gives your phone a placibo 4-6 bar signal depending on how close you are.
OCCASIONALLY it will help your call quality. But it will screw up your texts. Be warned, when you have it on and try texting people and get a "message not sent" notify, pull the plug on your airave instantly and make it restart or keep it off or else the person your texting gets 5-40 of the exact same message. It pisses everyone off.. When the issue happens like then, restarting it sometimes fixes the issue for maybe 30mins to 5 hours?
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+1 I thought the resending the same text over and over was fixed but its not. So when I see its sending the same text over and over, I have to put the phone in airplane mode,use Google voice to text. And the second thing that annoys me is the gps will say you are somewhere where your not. Like my airave puts me in west Chicago when I live about an hour or so away.
The only real reason I use it is so when I'm flashing a rom I get lazy and don't want to put in my WiFi password so I use the 3G haha.
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